Sandy Hook Connecticut state police hold a news conference in Newtown

[LordLindsey]

It is important to point-out that that color of blue behind "The Devil" is the color of israHell, and is also known as "UN blue."

Lindsey

[LordLindsey]

I want to wish a welcome to all of the people from Dr. Tracy's Memory Hole who have found TIU.

http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/12/do ... rs-killed/

Please feel free to register and post, and enjoy the other information that you find here.

Lindsey

[Michael K.]

Lindsey wrote:

Dr. Kevin Barrett interviews Sandy Hook anti-conspiracist Jeff Prager. This was absolutely telling as Prager just showed that we are definitely on to something, but of course that was not his intention. Dr. Barrett really did a good job with this.

Thanks, Lindsey, that was a worthwhile listen.  It's clear that Jeff Prager is playing "Devil's advocate," with a white hat on.

He is not using the classic techniques of disinformation, the pressured speech, the global "we all know" statements, the appeal to emotion, and numerous other fallacies.  However, "CIA Princeton Columbia Jim Fetzer" managed to pull all of those techniques in the short time he was on.  Instead, Prager is demonstrating how every alleged anomaly indicating the use of actors, or of multiple shooters, does and will not stand up to intense scrutiny and forensic debate.  

This is good, because everyone who touches this is putting their credibility on the line, and the strategic blunder of attaching one's fortunes to a "straw man" could be very costly in the same manner as "the boy who cried wolf".

Prager says, "from the time [Lanza] fired his last bullet, it was a conspiracy."  A conspiracy to spin the event to serve political ends (a police state), a conspiracy to insert disinformation to discredit 9-11 conspiracy theory and "truthers".  Additionally, the question of Lanza'a motive is not foreclosed upon by Prager's debunking the anomaly hysteria, and frankly I think Lanza's background and subjective state of mind is bound to be the most fertile field of research.

Prager: "I know the burden of proof is on me if I want to prove it's a false flag."

Dr. Barrett:  "Wrong...etc. [the government is guilty until proven innocent]" :roll:

Prager is the grown-up here, surrounded by adult children who are irrationally venting, and worse shills like Fetzer.  If Prager is wrong, he isn't participating in a cover-up, he is simply sticking to what can be asserted given what evidence the public possesses.  Thank you Jeff Prager.

[LordLindsey]

Mike, we will simply have to agree-to-disagree, or we were listening to two totally different broadcasts.  Prager came-off as an arrogant shill who tried to down-play anything and everything that we find anomalous, and Dr. Barrett did a great job pushing-the-issue, and at the same time, not being rude.  I also am forced to note that this Prager cat promotes mini-nukes/mini-neutron-bombs being used on 911, so you tell me what that does to help promote the truth about what really happened on 911?  Furthermore, he attempted to divert the blame from the israHell/the zionist/jewish take-over of our nation and world and their orchestration and carrying-out of 911.  And one more thing for the record, this Jeff Prager is not "Irish Catholic" or "Jesuit," if you know what I mean.

Michael, do yourself a favor, Brother, and listen to that show again, please.

I just wanted to make this comment so that no one mis-understood what "I" think.

Lindsey

[LordLindsey]

From my understanding of the Second Amendment, NO LAW shall infringe upon that right to keep and bear arms, and anyone who tries to circumvent that is committing treason.  Am I wrong?  If he begins signing "executive orders" and act like a literal dictator, will that be the catalyst that finally makes people understand the danger that we all face, just as what happened in Bolshevik Russia?  Read the comments and you will see--actually, in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ARTICLES, the comments are overwhelmingly on our side--that people are not going to just be quiet if more gun-laws are passed, and these people posting DO KNOW that something very bad is happening and are speaking-out.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-weighing-ex ... itics.html

"Obama weighing executive action on guns

By ERICA WERNER

WASHINGTON (AP) — Facing powerful opposition to sweeping gun regulations, President Barack Obama is weighing 19 steps he could take through executive action alone, congressional officials said. But the scope of such measures is limited.

The steps could include ordering stricter action against people who lie on gun sale background checks, seeking to ensure more complete records in the federal background check database, striking limits on federal research into gun use, ordering tougher penalties against gun trafficking, and giving schools flexibility to use grant money to improve safety.

Obama is expected to unveil his proposals Wednesday, barely over a month since the massacre of 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., thrust the gun issue into the national spotlight after years of inaction by Obama and lawmakers.

At the same time Obama is vowing not to back off his support for sweeping gun legislation that would require congressional backing — including banning assault weapons, limiting the capacity of ammunition magazines and instituting universal background checks — despite opposition from the influential gun lobby.

"Will all of them get through this Congress? I don't know," Obama said at a news conference Monday.

"My starting point is not to worry about the politics," he said. "My starting point is to focus on what makes sense, what works."

The president said he would unveil a comprehensive roadmap for curbing gun violence within days. His plan will be based on recommendations from Vice President Joe Biden's gun task force and is expected to include both legislative proposals and steps Obama can implement by himself, using his presidential powers.

White House officials believe moving swiftly on gun proposals at a national level, before the shock over the Newtown shooting fades, gives Obama the best chance to get his proposals through Congress.

Officials said Obama and Biden met Monday afternoon to discuss the vice president's recommendations. Ahead of that meeting, Biden huddled with a dozen House Democrats who have formed their own gun violence task force and whose political muscle will be needed to push legislation through Congress.

Biden told those lawmakers that he and his staff had identified 19 steps Obama could take without help from Congress, according to Jenny Werwa, communications director to Rep. Jackie Speier, D-Calif., one of those present. Biden didn't indicate which of those Obama would adopt.

Rep. Bobby Scott, D-Va., another lawmaker at the meeting, said one example is working to ensure better state reporting of mental health and other records that go into the federal background check database. But Scott said there are clear limits to what Obama can do without Congress' say-so.

"It wasn't anything remarkable, it was just administering present law better," Scott said. "You can't change the law through executive order."

Among other steps, advocacy groups have been pushing Obama to order the Justice Department to crack down on those who lie on background checks; only a tiny number are now prosecuted. Such a step has support from the National Rifle Association, which has consistently argued that existing laws must be enforced before new ones are considered.

Obama also could take steps ordering federal agencies to make more data on gun crimes available and conduct more research on the issue, something Republican congressional majorities have limited through language in budget bills, advocates said.

The president's proposals are also expected to include steps for improving school safety and mental health care, as well as recommendations for addressing violence in entertainment and video games.

"You'll have a combination of gun safety, mental health and general prevention," Scott said.

Another Democratic lawmaker who met with Biden on Monday said the vice president was likely to have given Obama proposals for allowing schools flexibility in spending federal grant money so they could take steps toward safety, including hiring school resource officers, instituting mental health intervention or making repairs like putting locks on doors. Grants could also go to communities to institute programs to get guns away from people who shouldn't have them, said the lawmaker, adding these were steps the president could take without Congress.

The lawmaker spoke on condition of anonymity because the proposals hadn't been announced publicly.

But the most sweeping and contentious elements — including an assault weapons ban — will require approval from Congress. The NRA has vowed to fight any measure that would limit access to guns and ammunition, a hardline position that could sway some Republicans and conservative Democrats.

The assault weapons ban, which Obama has long supported, is expected to face the toughest road on Capitol Hill. Congress passed a 10-year ban on the high-grade, military-style weapons in 1994, but supporters didn't have the votes to renew it once it expired.

Obama will also need congressional help to limit high-capacity ammunition magazines, like the ones used by the Newtown shooter, and to require background checks for anyone seeking to purchase a gun. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence said some 40 percent of gun sales happen with no background checks, such as at gun shows and by private sellers over the Internet or through classified ads.

Parents of the slain Connecticut children added their voices to the national dialogue Monday. Members of the newly formed group Sandy Hook Promise called for an open-minded discussion about a range of issues, including guns. And lawmakers in New York state pressed ahead with what would be the nation's first gun control measure approved since the school shootings."

As for Mr. Michael Collins Piper, he needs to stop carrying-water for this crack-head and get-with-reality.  I understand that he and Soetoro agree on some key issues relating to "social-politics", but his constant defending of this tool of his controllers is DISGUSTING.  I am so God damned sick of Piper's infatuation with this crack-head that I can no longer remain silent, and with this news story, ANYONE still defending this puppet for the jews is a simply in-denial of the obvious.  I can only begin to imagine how he, and others like him, are going to explain-away the Crack-head circumventing Congress and "making laws" to take-away the people's Second Amendment rights...maybe there will be some kind of "magical excuse" that he is really STILL trying to "pretend to be on 'their' side" but is really just infilitrating deeper and at some point will save the day like JFK legitimately tried to do.  Yeah...I am sure that will be how the excuse will play-out by those sychophants of the 110 pound drug-addict who looks like Skeletor at this point.

Lindsey

[LordLindsey]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gen ... 33813.html

"Man who helped Sandy Hook kids is harassed by conspiracy theorists


A man who found six children in his driveway in Newtown, Conn., after their teacher had been shot and killed in last month's school massacre has become the target of conspiracy theorists who believe the shootings were staged.

"I don't know what to do," Gene Rosen told Salon.com. "I'm getting hang-up calls, I'm getting some calls, I'm getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I'm lying, that I'm a crisis actor, 'How much am I being paid?'"

Rosen, a 69-year-old retired psychologist who lives near Sandy Hook Elementary School where the shootings took place, says his inbox is filled with emails like this one:

How are all those little students doing? You know, the ones that showed up at your house after the 'shooting'. What is the going rate for getting involved in a gov't sponsored hoax anyway?

"The quantity of the material is overwhelming," Rosen said, adding that he's sought the advice of a retired state police officer and plans to alert the FBI.

[Related: One month after school massacre, parents of Sandy Hook victims speak, urging 'real change']

On the morning of Dec. 14, Rosen had just finished feeding his cats when he saw six small children "sitting in a neat semicircle" at the end of his driveway. According to the Associated Press:

A school bus driver was standing over them, telling them things would be all right. It was about 9:30 a.m., and the children, he discovered, had just run from the school to escape a gunman.

"We can't go back to school," one little boy told Rosen. "Our teacher is dead."

Adam Lanza, the 20-year-old gunman, had shot his way into the school and opened fire, killing 20 children and six adults.

Rosen took the four girls and two boys—students of slain teacher Victoria Soto—into his home, gave them toys and comforted them while he tried to reach their parents. He spent the days following the massacre telling his story to the swarming media that invaded the small Connecticut town in the wake of the shootings.

"I wanted to speak about the bravery of the children," Rosen told Salon. "I guess I kind of opened myself up to this."

A quick Web search for Rosen's name reveals some of what he's opened himself up to: Appearing online are photos of his home, his address and phone number, several fake YouTube accounts and plenty of conspiracy theories.

One post, entitled "Grieving Town Grandfather, or Bad 'Crisis Actor,'" reads in part:

Gene's oft repeated, and changing, story about that day, focuses totally on the kids and the sound of gunshots. Even though his eyes and ears should've taken in the whole scene, his story focuses completely on the kids and the guns.

Why? Well, if this was a false flag event designed to move political opinion on gun control, here in America, then you would get a lot more bang for your buck by talking about the innocent little children. That's what tugs on America's heart strings the most ... especially around Christmas time."

From my understanding, this guy is no psychologist, but LIED about almost everything that he said.  Am I wrong?  If I am NOT wrong, how can the media, AGAIN, be so stupid as to repeat the same bullshit over again, and worse yet, give this guy ANY time because he has already been dis-credited?

We are truly living in an "Alice in Wonderland" fantasy-land where truth becomes fiction, good becomes bad, black becomes white, and on and on.

Lindsey

[FrankDialogue]

Apparently, the Lanza family lived on 'Yogananda Street' in Newtown CT...This case gets stranger and stranger, as we hit the one month anniversary mark...Here is an article that appeared in an Australian paper: Please ignore any info continuing the frame up, but take note of the ambiguous comments by the few people who claimed to 'have known him':



Killer Adam Lanza's family 'a mystery'



ON leafy Yogananda Street, home to Nancy Lanza and her son Adam Lanza, the accused US school gunman, former school mates remembered him as an intelligent but strange young man.

"He was a weird kid as a child, but he was just quiet. We never knew his real personality. He was just himself," said Megan, aged 20, who went to primary school with the presumed shooter, and declined to give her last name.

"I knew he lived in the area. But he fell off of the radar halfway through middle school, maybe seven or eight years ago," she said in this usually sleepy, wealthy town north of New York City, jarred by unthinkable tragedy.

Lanza, 20, used a Bushmaster .233 rifle - designed for shooting people in military assaults - and owned by his mother Nancy.

Police believe Adam murdered his mother, shooting her in the face before heading to the school.

There he unleashed a wave of terror authorities say was the deadliest massacre at a US grade school, shocking the United States with the apparently senseless and staggering targeting of one innocent child after another.

"As long as I remember he was very intellectually sound at school," Megan said of her old classmate Adam.

Getting to Nancy Lanza's home is almost impossible; police have it closed off as a second crime scene in the town due to her murder.

It also is hard to find neighbours able or willing to speak about the family in a neighbourhood of plush, sprawling single family homes with huge lawns down rolling hills.

Another young man who lives nearby and also refused to give his name rode over on a skateboard and spoke about Adam Lanza.

"I knew Adam cause I went to school in the same bus," he said. "We ate lunch, played chess. He was very smart.

"He was kind of kid that, in the computer classes, where me and other kids had a hard time 'cause we had two seconds to do something. Then he would just go in and get it done."

The young man said he was unaware of any talk of weapons in the Lanza home, before popping his hood over his head and skating off away from photographers.

While school friends recalled facets of Adam's personality, the family was basically not well known to many neighbours, like relative newcomers the Strocchia family.

"They are a mystery. Nobody knows about them. A lot of the people in this neighborhood know each other. It was very hard to find that I didn't know them and nobody on the block knew them," said Len Strocchia, 46, who has lived on the same street as the Lanzas for six years.

Though he was remembered as a shy and awkward boy, Lanza had not apparently given any warning sign that he could be a mass murderer in the making.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/killer-adam-lanzas-family-a-mystery/story-e6frg6so-1226537747441

[LordLindsey]

Why does the demon-controlled media CONTINUE to lie about a rifle being used when it was PISTOLS that were used to kill those people?  Can someone please explain this to me, especially given the fact that the rifle was IN THE TRUNK OF THE CAR.

Is ANYTHING real and true coming from the demon-controlled media any longer?

Lindsey

[FrankDialogue]

Why does the demon-controlled media CONTINUE to lie about a rifle being used when it was PISTOLS that were used to kill those people?  Can someone please explain this to me, especially given the fact that the rifle was IN THE TRUNK OF THE CAR.

Is ANYTHING real and true coming from the demon-controlled media any longer?


Lindsey

Let me just say this, as I need to eat some food:

You have heard of 'The Beast' spoken of by many Christians, as described to some degree in the 'Book of Revelation'?

Well, and most Christians do not understand this, The Beast is quite real, and this Beast is here, right now, controlling the world...The Beast is the whole system of so-called 'civilization' we live under, and the Beast controls by mass media and deception.

When we try to get to the truth, we are in opposition to the Beast, and we can expect only more lies and deception, as this is 'it's' nature...By refusing to be deceived, you stand against the Beast, and it will be quite painful here for you many times, but you will get a reward for this in the spiritual life, an eternal reward, because this world is only a mask for certain powers that oppose the truth and therefor oppose God himself.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Prager: "I know the burden of proof is on me if I want to prove it's a false flag."

Dr. Barrett: "Wrong...etc. [the government is guilty until proven innocent]" :roll:

Prager is the grown-up here, surrounded by adult children who are irrationally venting, and worse shills like Fetzer. If Prager is wrong, he isn't participating in a cover-up, he is simply sticking to what can be asserted given what evidence the public possesses.

I'm still listening, but I just got to this part.

"He who asserts must prove."

The problem in this situation is that many people have a very strong opinion, one way or another.  But none of us have any first-hand evidence.  From this point, I would conclude that we should all weaken our opinion somewhat. We can't claim to KNOW. We can believe strongly, but I don't think there is evidence that points strongly towards knowing.

The burden is on someone to prove a false flag; AND the burden is upon the government to prove it is a "lone-nut gunman".  Barrett is right to say that the government is a KNOWN liar and perpetrator of false flag events; and also that they have a motive to commit more of these criminal actions.

Prager sounds like he is trying to be even handed, but he has very strong opinions. Prager monopolized a lot of the time talking to Fetzer. Also, I thought Prager's analysis of the girl in the Obama photo was very opinionated and weak. My opinion on Prager so far is that he should be less opinionated in matters where he has nothing to add.

A good example is where Prager emphasizes that the suspect was DETAINED rather than ARRESTED. What difference does it make? The guy is in handcuffs and in a police car! The point that gets lost in the shuffle is that, if a guy has been detained/arrested at the scene of a mass murder, and the cops felt that it was important enough to cuff him, why did they put him in the front seat?  Is that according to the manual?

People who have strong opinions tend to come off as shills. People who make crazy connections and build scenarios sound like shills to make the "Truth" movement look bad.  People who are take up the government side, when they really are just as baffled as everyone else, tend to sound like government shills.  

I think Prager would come off a little better if he didn't argue so vehemently.  I haven't read his book, but my ears always pick up when a Jewish guy who wrote a bunch of books on 9/11 says that Canada, the USA, Saudi Arabia and Germany are equally culpable with israel for 9/11.  israel just sat back and waited for 9/11 to happen? BS. To me that sounds like Prager is suffering from a little bit of cognitive dissonance.  

Prager is correct that people should not use every occasion to spin off into imaginary theories. We should stick to what can be proven.  

I am not convinced that Sandy Hook was real. Prager's explanation of Sandy Hook in "Dark Knight" was weak.  His explanation of Happy Parents with dead kids was weak.

I am confused by the way the emergency was handled: why didn't the police try to save the kids? The quick response by the police means that they were at the scene with kids who were recently shot. Why weren't paramedics sent to the scene? A cop finds two dozen people lying in their own blood and pronounces them all dead? The congresswoman who supposedly was shot THROUGH THE HEAD was supposedly saved by emergency procedures.  Why didn't the cops think they could save these kids? Who declares people dead?

Also the multiple stories coming from the simple crime scene doesn't make any sense. One shooter in an elementary school doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out. But we got a bunch of conflicting stories describing Sandy Hook.  

Also, there is something to be said for evidence of photo-shopping of the visual evidence.  If you go to the Sept Clues forum they have many posts on this subject.  And I don't understand how some lady's photo of her little girl on facebook got included into the pictures of the victims.

[Michael K.]

Marlowe wrote:

I think Prager would come off a little better if he didn't argue so vehemently. I haven't read his book, but my ears always pick up when a Jewish guy who wrote a bunch of books on 9/11 says that Canada, the USA, Saudi Arabia and Germany are equally culpable with israel for 9/11. israel just sat back and waited for 9/11 to happen? BS. To me that sounds like Prager is suffering from a little bit of cognitive dissonance.

I am not comfortable endorsing Jeff Praeger in a broad sense, since I haven't read his research.  However, his 9-11 theory relies on the presumed existence of cold fusion weapons, and when I tried to download his free e-book, the download says that its publisher is Moshe Caspi, (get me outta here).  But he clearly has the high ground where prudence is the defining virtue.  As far as his critique, he seems to stay away from the "WTC-7" of Sandy Hook, Lauren Rosseau's shot up car.

I also noticed that he says in the above interview, that he participated in a Satanic cult in high school, but that it was all goofy fun, apparently.

[FrankDialogue]

Gingerbread Houses at Sandy Hook School

From an earlier article I posted, because of the either irony, or grotesqueness of mentioning the building of 'gingerbread houses' in a school at the same time as children were supposedly being systematically wiped out:

Another victim has been named as six-year-old Jesse Lewis. His father Neil Heslin told the New York Post that he dropped his son off at school that morning and planned to return in the afternoon to join parents in the holiday tradition of making gingerbread houses.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2I5GwVMHS

Neil Heslin with son, Jesse Lewis, alleged victim: Heslin appeared with Piers Morgan




Chris Manfredonia

Connecticut Mystery Man in the Woods Identified as Chris Manfredonia


According to Deadline Live, the Connecticut mystery man in the woods has officially been identified as Chris Manfredonia, who was found by police in the woods next to Sandy Hook Elementary School after Adam Lanza took the lives of 27 people.

Initially after the shooting, no one knew who the Connecticut mystery man in the woods was as people witnessed police placing him in handcuffs. The LA Times found out that Chris Manfredonia, whose 6-year-old daughter attends the school, was heading there Friday morning to help make gingerbread houses with first-graders when he heard popping sounds and smelled sulfur. He ran around the school trying to reach his daughter and was briefly handcuffed by police. Chris Manfredonia was later reunited with his child, who had been locked in a small room with a teacher.

While people continue to mourn the lives lost at the Connecticut elementary school shooting, more questions are still being asked as to how such a tragedy could have occurred. While there are still many theories flying around about Adam Lanza and his state of mind, there are some that consider it suspicious of how very few details have been given about Chris Manfredonia and why police do not consider him a suspect. However, police are very confident in the fact that Adam Lanza was the sole shooter and are still currently seeking answers as to what motivated his shooting rampage.

Read more at http://americanlivewire.com/connecticut ... Cr44Y5y.99

Now, you see the problem here is that this Manfredonia was captured by the police in the woods...Yet, in most reports, it is claimed he was IN THE SCHOOL, supposedly searching for his daughter, an elementary school student there (AND WHOSE PICTURE I CAN FIND NOWHERE!)...Now, if school in lockdown, how this guy get out and run away to the woods?...He supposedly was 'reunited with daughter later at fire house'...But this beg the big question: This guy was supposedly in the school, and he supposedly later states 'he heard shots and smelled sulfur' in the school, so, he is a living eye witness to events in the school, but he disappears from the face of the earth, and we hear nothing about him anymore.....Frank D.

Was he building more 'gingerbread houses' in another location?

[Amanda]

Okay, scroll down and check out the photo of Victoria Sota's sisters and other family members posing for photos w/Anderson Cooper....Brace yourself, it's a heart-wrenching photo, their grief is clearly palpable:

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f= ... &start=690

(does somebody know how to bring those photos over here?)

[Amanda]

Looks like some Americans are finally getting sick of the MSM BS:

Now, in this first one, he mentions the whole Chris Rodia/black honda thing, which has already been cleared up (I think). Also be sure to watch at about the 5 min mark w/the comparison of three different grieving parents:

Anderson Cooper Response: Sandy Hook Conspiracy
[youtube:16y66pru]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G-UNwE1pWU[/youtube]16y66pru]



Okay, if you have a problem w/harsh language, this next one is probably not for you. But on the plus side, it's good to see an American getting angry about what's going on;)

A message to the main stream media on Sandy Hook "conspiracy theorists"
[youtube:16y66pru]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-BLEXeY3N8[/youtube]16y66pru]

[Moe Foe]

A very strange development accordint to newtown Bee.

Investigation Progresses

As the police probe has progressed, some facts of the case have become clear.

According to a reliable local law enforcement source, Adam Lanza attempted to destroy all his computer equipment to prevent any tracing of his Internet usage and his electronic correspondence. It is thought that "some or most" of the computer data will be retrieved from the damaged equipment.

The source confirmed that Lanza used a Bushmaster-brand military-style semiautomatic assault rifle to kill all victims at the school. Lanza also carried two pistols.

Also, Lanza used a different rifle to kill his mother by firing four shots at her while she was in bed at home, according to the source. Adam Lanza left that rifle at Lanza residence.

Also, Lanza shot more than 100 rounds and possibly hundreds of rounds of ammunition at the school, according to the source.

Lanza was not wearing any "body armor" when the school incident occurred.

Additionally, a teacher at the school who realized what was occurring during the shooting incident crowded all of her students into a rest room adjoining her classroom and then pulled a bookcase in front of the bathroom door to obscure it from view. The people hiding in that bathroom survived.

A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source.
http://newtownbee.com/News/2012-12-27__ ... 0Treatment

[FrankDialogue]

Okay, scroll down and check out the photo of Victoria Sota's sisters and other family members posing for photos w/Anderson Cooper....Brace yourself, it's a heart-wrenching photo, their grief is clearly palpable:

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f= ... &start=690

(does somebody know how to bring those photos over here?)

Listen, I see something interesting here, just caught my eye:

Sure, I can try... You know how sometimes you get a fake event so completely out of touch with reality that no other questions need to be asked. A great example is Hoi's Vicsim report? It pretty much puts to rest any doubt that the event was staged. The reasoning is complete.
Then, you sometimes get events/actors/circumstances that don't quite fit the bill as being entirely faked. An example might be Pozner's 'mom' Veronique. She may appear to be devoid of maternal grief, which in itself is suspect, but no one has proven beyond a doubt that she is not the mother of a dead child, have they? How do you explain the SSDI entry for the dead entity:
http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/ ... ssingtime=

OK...One of the big problems with the 911 coverup was the fact that none of the so-called passengers on the 'hijacked' planes names appear (I believe even until now) on the Social Security Deceased Index (SSDI)...When you die, you go on this index, and the FEDs no longer have to pay you Social Security.

Now, this post points to one of three things: 1)Either they got wind of this detail that must be taken care of in any coverup; 2) Social Security completely screwed up in the case of the '911 passengers' and, if they were really dead, never bother to correct their books; 3) A Pozner child really did die, and was added to index, OR index was tampered with....

One would have to check the date of the addition to SSDI, because usually Social Security doesn't update books this fast (immediately), and if something happens after the 15th of the month, you usually have to wait another 30 days before adjustments are made.


Unfortunately, link provided is dead, and it leads to a commercial website anyway, not to a government site.

[FrankDialogue]

Looks like some Americans are finally getting sick of the MSM BS:

On 'our boy', Anderson Cooper, he is just small potatoes...He make one wrong move on this, and it will come out about the 15 year old male prostitute who give him a blow job in the bathroom of that gay nightclub he was partying in 'awhile back'.

Word come down from CNN head Jeff Zucker: 'Watch your step, fegelleh...'

[LordLindsey]

Frank, how do you know about that?  Were you peeking in the stall?

  :lol:

Lindsey

[FrankDialogue]

Frank, how do you know about that?  Were you peeking in the stall?

  :lol:

Lindsey

Oh man, we got it all on video...Like I say, Cooper just small potatoes, but he serves a purpose, does a job for us right now...Cooper don't like his job?...We'll put him on a celebrity porn site!

Same with bigger boys like Obama: He take a dump at the White House, man, we got it on DVD that night with a soundtrack too!   :lol:

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

No different than Weimer Germany ... and seriously... no exaggeration.   But... there is always that odd Jew'publican that likes to look into neighboring stalls ... scandals unbounded.... and I"m sure the Fag Anderson is deep into that kind of sick J-Sh*t.

[Christopher Marlowe]

More evidence of Media altering reality.  Photo attached to Sandy Hook originally ran under a completely unrelated banner:

[Amanda]

Charlie did an interesting show today w/this guy, Greg Kalina, who has been on his show before to talk about the moon hoax. They talked just for a few minutes about the moon and the rest of the time was spent on going over Sandy Hook.  Brian who runs http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/ called in for a bit too.  Anyway, it was an interesting show. Talked a bit about the Praeger/Barrett audio, plus various anomalies/problems w/the offical Sandy Hook story.  

Now the most interesting part of the audio so far is at about the 1hour 15 min mark when Greg starts to talk about a call he made to the new Sandy Hook school--very interesting. Sounds like people there are scared to speak. And his question kind of centered on Sally Cox, who we were told was the school nurse (she's the one who supposedly said that Nancy Lanza taught kindergarten there and was a wonderful person). Now apparently there might be some issue w/"Sally" actually being a nickname and her real name being "Sarah." And it sounds like some have looked up "Sarah Cox" and found her listed as a licensed nurse in CT.

http://grizzom.blogspot.nl/2013/01/trut ... ni_16.html

[Amanda]

For those intersested, here's Dr K's website http://nodisinfo.com/Home/ (he's a regular guest on Rick Adams' RBN show and has lots of info compiled on Sandy Hook and Aurora shootings)

Some interesting info here:

http://nodisinfo.com/Home/2013/01/16/th ... andy-hook/

[Amanda]

Here's the latest from Professor Tracy:

Taft Union High School Drill Becomes "Real Life"

(Revised)
 
Was the tragic January 10 shooting at Taft Union High School part of a drill that "went live"? This is the impression one gets when analyzing media reports of the incident, such as those from CNN correspondent Khung Lah.
 
Taft School District Superintendent Bill McDermott stated that on the morning of January 10 at 7:30AM PST Taft Union High School staff participated in "lockdown training." The public school, located roughly two hours northwest of Los Angeles, encompasses grades nine through 12 with about 935 students and 64 faculty members.[1]
 
According to CNN, just one hour after a routine school lockdown drill, a student armed with a 12-gauge shotgun opened fire, seriously injuring another student who was taken to hospital in critical condition.
 
In a January 10 exchange between CNN's Anderson Cooper and correspondent Kyung Lah, the latter reveals how the incident arose from a drill that went live minutes later.
 
Kyung Lah: Another thing that they're also crediting are drills. The school, Anderson, just this morning, had a drill as to what to do if a shooter was in the school, a drill that became real life just an hour later.
 
Lah's observation of the peculiar coincidence was left undeveloped by program host Anderson Cooper, who immediately steered the reporter in a direction more supportive of the overt storyline.
 
Cooper: Do we know what the teachers, the administrators said to the student to get him to disarm? And also, do we know what the motive of targeting these – like why there was, you know, allegedly this hit list or why he might have targeted these particular students?.......... read the rest here: http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/16/ta ... real-life/

[FrankDialogue]

Tracy/Memory Hole writes:

In other words, throughout such events actors are strategically deployed and manipulated to control the entire situation. In the event that a drill potentially "goes live," these actors are poised to play decisive roles in determining how such an incident will be presented to news media and the broader public.

The December 14 Newtown Connecticut school shooting included features arguably similar to an "active shooter drill" which, following from the above, is not to suggest that the event did not take place. For example, were "actors" observed fleeing the scene and being apprehended by police outside the school? The identities of these individuals cannot be confirmed as they were not heard from again, the media largely failed to follow up on the suspects, and their identities remain undisclosed by law enforcement.

Further, in the event's aftermath separate media interviews reveal the seemingly contradictory accounts of parents and residents who in many instances simply cannot seem to get their stories straight.

To date there has been absolutely no video footage or photographic evidence released that would have in all probability been captured on the Sandy Hook School's new security surveillance system confirming exactly how the incident transpired. Also, the press has been forbidden entry to the grounds despite the fact that law enforcement authorities have repeatedly confirmed Adam Lanza as the sole perpetrator of the mass shooting.

In the event that government authorities may be involved in coordinating "active shooter drills" that have the potential to unexpectedly "go live" one thing is certain: no public spaces remain safe for children or the broader citizenry.

Thank you, Amanda...We still have absolutely no hard evidence from this 'event'...

We gotta try and keep an eye on this, because it's already 3/4 of the way down the memory hole now...Today's latest 'news': 'al Queda' militants have take a number of 'American and international contractors' hostage in Algeria; this, supposedly related to 'terrorist' activity in Mali, where the French might be sending troops.  :shifty:

[Amanda]

Frank- I highly recommend signing up on Professor Tracy's blog. He sends you new posts, plus any comments that get added and it seems like lots of people are independently looking into this and posting good info/questions over there. One of the comments that I thought was kind of interesting was this one: "Not one person had a Cell phone?
Then again movie sets people have cell phones but will be sued the shit out of if releasing that material..No doubt the Feds threatened."  


Also, from the Professor Tracy passage you quoted, this part kind of stand out in my mind:

In the event that government authorities may be involved in coordinating "active shooter drills" that have the potential to unexpectedly "go live" one thing is certain: no public spaces remain safe for children or the broader citizenry.

I've been feeling that way for a while--like we all should be looking into whether DSH/FEMA is running any drills in our local area. Plus, I also found this linked to on Prof. Tracy's blog:

http://publicintelligence.net/fusion-ce ... o-respond/  (watch the video)


My first thought after watching was "Uh-oh, are they going to start sending live shooters into the workplace soon??" And at some point in the video they tell you that if you're in such a situation, then "improvise weapons"--yeah, b/c slaves aren't allowed ot have real weapons!!

[LordLindsey]

Mark Glenn had some strong things to say about all of us who are openly quesioning what happened with Sandy Hook, and the un-questionable gun-control agenda in its aftermath:

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/ ... n-15-2012/

I understand from where he is coming; however, the problem is that there ARE many problems with what has been reported regarding Sandy Hook, and it is obvious that this is our "Dunblane Massacre" or "Port Arthur."  

Lindsey

[LordLindsey]

You people ARE saving all of these videos, aren't you?

Lindsey

[FrankDialogue]

Mark Glenn had some strong things to say about all of us who are openly quesioning what happened with Sandy Hook, and the un-questionable gun-control agenda in its aftermath:

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/ ... n-15-2012/

I understand from where he is coming; however, the problem is that there ARE many problems with what has been reported regarding Sandy Hook, and it is obvious that this is our "Dunblane Massacre" or "Port Arthur."  

Lindsey

The problem with a lot of the 'big names' in ant-Zion, 'patriot', 'truth' movements is that they constantly in-fight, like teenage girls...That American Free Press crowd is pretty dreary...Michael Collins Piper has a few of his own skeletons in the closet...Glenn is humourless.

[maz]

Mark Glenn had some strong things to say about all of us who are openly quesioning what happened with Sandy Hook, and the un-questionable gun-control agenda in its aftermath:

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/ ... n-15-2012/

I understand from where he is coming; however, the problem is that there ARE many problems with what has been reported regarding Sandy Hook, and it is obvious that this is our "Dunblane Massacre" or "Port Arthur."  

Lindsey

As much as I can see the obvious problems with Sandy Hook, I am with Mark Glenn on this one. In fact, I have told a few people that I sometimes speak about political/conspiratorial issues in real like that I emphatically do not endorse any Sandy Hook conspiracies, especially the Israeli death squads theory. And ESPECIALLY since I have gone on the record all over the net in saying that Israel was behind 9/11.

It's so obvious what is going on, and that the psyop is far greater than just the shooting. I see Alex Jones and the mass propagation of disinfo like the Libor scandal as being just another way the media trying to discredit us, to make us all look crazy and like we need to be mentally screened/or committed.

Rather than focusing and spinning our wheels on these details that we may never confirm, let's just focus on the two things we can say with 100% certainty: the Jews are behind gun control legislation and they control the media.

We can prove these two things as they are easily verifiable at this point, and beyond that nothing else matters much. It's much easier to convince someone of these things then trying to get them onboard with speculation or pointing out the discrepancies in the inconsequencial details of a bigger picture.