Sandy Hook Connecticut state police hold a news conference in Newtown

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FrankDialogue

Quote from: "LordLindsey"Apparently this video is being attacked, and I am putting here so that people can save it before it dis-appears:


Lindsey

Yeah, this video was posted earlier in the thread...Very well put together; I believe this was the first guy who brought the inconsistencies with the Victoria Soto character into the light, in addition to the Greenberg-Sexton family...The beginning, showing the EMT vehicles and the firehouse, was very good, too...The whole thing is top draw.

Christopher Marlowe

Quote from: Moe FoeI was listening to the Piper/Glenn/Fetzer show and I've got to say I agree with them,  I don't say much but I read the forum often and I'd just preface this by saying that Frank and Amanda you have been like a breath of fresh air with your contributions to the forum and excellent research and C.Marlowe you are probably the member here that I'd respect most, extremely principled, intelligent and humourous.  However, I think you have been barking up the wrong tree with regards to Sandy Hook being a hoax.  I certainly don't rule out foul play or government involvement but I think we are all getting manipulated and ushered into the direction of it being a hoax so as to discredit investigations into future terrorism carried out by the state.
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Black Propaganda

What better way to discredit and eliminate"conspiracies theorists" than to give them enough rope to hang themselves? What better way is there to drive a permanent wedge between groups 2 and 3 above than allowing them to hoist themselves by their own petard? What better time to do this than in the emotionally charged aftermath of a national tragedy when the world is in mourning? What better way to do this than manipulating them into accusing the grieving parents of "acting" on spurious grounds? This can surely only lead to derision and ostracisation and the reinforcement of the negative "conspiracy theorist" narrative.

The application of this manipulation would be relatively straightforward and without risk. You bide your time until an "inevitable" heinous crime is committed, a crime that you have had absolutely no involvement in and so horrific that it results in a state of collective grief and an outpouring of sympathy for the victims. When this opportunity arises you control the release of information, such as not releasing the crime scene photos or allowing the parents of the children to see their murdered children or otherwise misleading information that will direct those who seek to false and ideally offensive conclusions. This will send the "conspiracy" community (from groups 1 and 2) who take the bait into overdrive and those mildly sceptical due to the inconsistencies in the official narrative (group 3) to the blogs and sites of groups 1 and 2.

With this in place you release disinformation in drips and drabs for "conspiracy theorists" to get excited about. Disinformation that ultimately discredits the researcher and by association their other research. Essential to this would be the government shills who would be already in place posing as "conspiracy theorists" pushing with all their might their black propaganda. These are the people who frame the debate and from whom the most absurd and offensive memes develop amongst the "conspiracy" community.

Once out there it develops a life of it's own and a chain-reaction begins and honest people begin to spread the disinformation and the meme is firmly in place as representing the "conspiracy" or alternative viewpoint.

The next phase is something that has already come to pass - the demonisation of "conspiracy theorists" in the MSM which focused on the most vile and off-putting "conspiracy theories" and invite a boorish idiot onto Prime Time talkshows to disgrace himself and those that are perceived to be associated with him and his ideas. The part is perceived to represent the whole and this by design extends itself in the minds of the audience to other alternative theories such as 9/11 and JFK.

I would predict the endgame to be the release (or leak) of irrefutable evidence which confirms that the attack took place such as crime scene photographs along with calls to shutdown alternative blogs and sites.
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Thank you for your kind words Moe Foe. Believe me, these thoughts have been rolling around my head also. CSR has also been saying this sort of thing all along.  I thought I would post some stuff that makes arguments along these same lines.

I watched a Dutchsinse (DS) video today where he discussed a sheilaaliens video that debunked one of the most popular SandyHook hoax videos. DS was saying that this type of loose reporting is the result of an open community pooling resources and doing an open investigation. I thought that was a very profound assessment of this new social phenomena. 

DS went on to say that he is through with Sandy Hook.  I guess he is tired of the unsubstantiated theorizing that is sending all of these "truthers" down rabbit holes.

Here is the SheilaAleins video:
(Her main criticism is with the unsupportable theories that are based on feelings rather than logic; e.g. why aren't these parents crying? Ergo: no children died. --> That is not a logical proof of anything. Dutchsinse is of the same mindset: he only wants to talk about things that are provable in court.)



Here's another guy who does a brilliant assessment on "The Truther Girls". (Basically, he shreds the idiocy of Dallas Goldbug et al. This Max Igan guy also that the media purposely put these obvious errors out on the airwaves, drawing "truthers" into the moral lowground of challenging the reality of the by purposely broadcasting those things that they knew would offend our rational sense, e.g. Robbie Parker smiling and then hyperventilating, etc; and/or our acquired ideas concerning "illuminati-type" tell-tale signs, e.g. the little girl's picture of an owl.)

And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

Christopher Marlowe

I found proof of video fakery at Sandy Hook  on two sites:

This one shows the cops responding to the shooter on the 14th at "Sandy Hook", but the footage shown is actually St Rose of Lima School:

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/341776

QuoteAt the words "they arrived to carnage," the CNN Anderson Cooper report cuts to helicopter footage of seven police officers charging across a parking lot and toward a school. The CNN report is breaking news coverage of the shooting just hours earlier.
The three-minute report posted on the day after the shootings at the official CNN website is entitled "Tragedy Strikes at Elementary School." But the school is almost certainly not Sandy Hook.
It is St. Rose of Lima School, a private school a few miles away, also in Newtown. Sandy Hook Elementary School is the site where 20 school children were killed on December 14, 2012, and 6 adults. Two adults were wounded, Natalie Hammond and another whom police have not named.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/3 ... z2IcrJqFA0

Got this from sept clues: This one is still from Newtown that doesn't exist in reality:

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews ... .image.jpg
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    Infinite riches in a little room

Christopher Marlowe

I should add that the CNN footage was supposedly aired on the 14th. Subsequently there was a bomb scare at St Rose of Lima on the 16th.
http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/us ... -recap.cnn

It is possible that CNN aired this video AFTER the bomb scare and mixed up the footage AND THEN posted the wrong date as to when it was originally aired.

Or CNN recorded a police raid on St Rose of Lima on the 14th.  In which case:
 1. The police responded to the 9/11 at Sandy Hook and some of them went to the wrong school?  
 2. Perhaps there was a DRILL going on at all of the schools in the area?

Or CNN had stock footage of a police raid on St Rose of Lima from some earlier date?
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    Infinite riches in a little room

Amanda

Looks like that footage of the police storming St. Rose of LIma was also aired on Dec 14th by News12 Connecticut:

Video blunder Sandy Hook school shooting: (It's actually St. Rose school)


-caption says "earlier today" and "fatal school shooting Newtown"
-video also has news footage w/audio saying "Sandy Hook Elementary" while showing a photo of the firehouse, which curiously has a sign saying "Welcome to Sandy Hook Elementary School" (shouldn't that sign say Sandy Hook Fire Station?) (the video posted by Lindsey in comment #421 goes over this--all/most media footage on the ground was actually taken at the fire station and NOT at the school, wonder if that sign always been there or if it's there to mislead viewers)


Here's more on the St. Rose of Lima:

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Michael K.


Sandy Hook Hoax Part 5 - Sandy Hook Truther Murder Attempt?

QuoteI have taken Oleems video (DEBUNKING SANDY HOOK BY OLEEM) down at his request.  He has been in a huge car accident...the other car fled off.  The police are investigating and DO BELIEVE that foul play is involved.  This is the scariest thing our family has ever gone through.  They tried to kill my cousin because he made a youtube video !!!!!!  please pass this along.  If you are in toronto..on the news...you will see the report if[sic] the deadly crash.  I cannot believe this.  Fucking...unbelieveable

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QuoteJewsHateTheTruth911 17 hours ago

Everything about this incident is fishy and simply doesn't add up. The police scanner is unbelievable. "End the life of Adam" is clear as day. I got chills when i hear it. It seems He was a patsy and a hit squad dressed as Nuns with masks on fleeing the scene in a purple van, are the perpetrators. Notice the overhead picture of the scene, theres 2 articles of black clothing next to "Adam's" car, passenger side. Looks just like the robes nuns wear.


ThinkOutsideTheTV 1 day ago

Oleem was just commenting on my videos and talking to me earlier, no mention of any accident, he said his channel got taken down . How can you explain that?


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Police seek driver after man injured in North York hit-and-run

680News staff Jan 19, 2013 10:24:21 AM

TORONTO, Ont. – Police have released few details at this point, but are searching for a driver in connection with a hit-and-run incident in North York.

It happened around 7:20 a.m. near Yonge Street and Byng Avenue, police said.

A 50-year-old man suffered non-life-threatening injuries in the crash.

A description of the suspect or car has not yet been released.

Anyone with information or who may have witnessed the incident is being asked to contact police or Crime Stoppers.

FrankDialogue

There was a DHS drill going on in Bridgeport CT on the same day as the Sandy Hook event...The drill was called "Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters."...The drill was taking place between 9 AM and 4 PM...Bridgeport CT is approximately 20 miles east of Newtown.

http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetail_page.asp?date_ID=CAC9C6C9CD83CDC9C7

Newtown CT itself had a DHS drill back in September of 2010 at the firehouse.

To the west, on the same day as the Newtown incident, in Carmel NY
Quoteby grim coincidence, even as the terrible events were unfolding in Newtown on Friday morning, the Putnam County Emergency Response Team ("ERT") happened to be assembled for regular training in Carmel, and team members were at that very moment engaged in a mock scenario of an active-shooter in a school.
Carmel, in Putnam county NY is about 25 miles west of Newtown...DHS organizes itself on a regional or county basis.

http://southeast.patch.com/articles/sheriff-putnam-officials-to-talk-school-safety-this-afternoon

These drills have been mentioned on this thread, but I bring them up again to point out that these drills are video taped, they most likely all have similar scenarios, and certain media are involved in their staging...We should consider the possibility that video tape footage of these drills may have been spliced into media coverage of the Newtown event that was broadcast either on December 14, or any time thereafter...It can be done quickly, but not comprehensively, which would be one of the factors involved in all the contradictions in the initial official story

Just understand how omnipresent the use of actors and 'production teams' is in today's information world...Every one of those little commercials you see on YouTube videos and as pop ups on websites are done with mini Hollywood/NY advertising production values and with actors.

Amanda

Raw Helicopter Footage of the Sandy Hook Shooting Aftermath



I'm reposting the above video b/c I was over at <!-- m -->http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/<!-- m --> and she made an interesting point about what she noticed in the parking lot. If you look closely, it seems like the cars in the front row were all backed in--isn't that a little odd??

Also, the guy making audio comments on the video said something about "Detroit" being on the side of the firetruck (I can't tell).


The video below shows how some of the media have been using photos of emergency vehicles and stretchers from alleged yacht explosion and presenting them as though they are from the Sandy Hook shooting:

I've seen this somewhere before!!!!!


But what's also a bit strange is that the whole yacht explosion incident turned out to be a hoax:

Quotevideo description: Published on Jan 15, 2013 - So they took this from another HOAX that happened on June 12, 2012 (by the way a HOAX CALL in SANDY HOOK NJ) and put it in a newspaper on dec 14, 2012 or whatever.. to look like the school shooting!!!!.probably they run out of pics ..lol.. By the way that HOAX call looks to me more like some-kind of coded message .21 souls on board / 20 on water /9 injured/3 dead .. look at the numbers I don't know???? Make up ur own conclusions... nothing surprise me anymore... A HOAX INSIDE A HOAX hahahahah lol

Yacht explosion hoax distress call to U.S. Coast Guard


Quotevideo description-Published on Jun 12, 2012 - The U.S. Coast Guard has released audio from a distress call reporting an apparent explosion on a yacht off the coast of central New Jersey that was later determined to be a hoax. The agency is offering a $3,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and prosecution of the person responsible.

Amanda

Lots of smiling going on w/Soto's sisters IMO. Wondering if I'm not the only one who thinks so b/c comments section was disabled

Family of heros, Soto




In case some haven't watched the full press conference:

Dr. Carver Medical Examiner Unedited FULL Press Conference - Sandy Hook School Shooting Hoax
[youtube:16imqjqo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpn3rio5bgQ[/youtube]16imqjqo]

I was listening to an audio w/Fetzer and Professor Tracy and they were highly suspicious of Dr. Carver's presentation/performance. Tracy mentioned something about how the guy doesn't have any identification on his white coat--I think he said that medical examiners (in this case, Chief Medical Examiner for the State of CT) usually have a badge of some type? Also at 4:12 is when Carver said "I hope the people of Newtown don't have it come crashing down on their head" (that was the cryptic comment that Tracy picked up on).  At 10:41 he was asked where the kids' bodies were found (whether they were running away of found under desks) and he wasn't able to answer it, but said "obviously I was on the scene, but I'll let the scene guys address that."  Another thing I thought was strange was at 14:05 when is seems like a reporter must have asked Carver about the vehicles used to transport the bodies. His response was that they "make them as unmarked and nondescript as possible to foil you guys." I honestly have no idea what standard practice is for coroners, but I kind of thought that they had govt. issued vehicles that said "County Coroner" or something like that. I could be wrong, but it just seemed strange.

Amanda

Found this over at:  <!-- m -->http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/<!-- m --> (set up by the woman who does the sherriequestionsall blog)


20/20 Segment dissected "Tragedy at Sandy Hook"

QuoteThe below video is a 20/20 segment about the shooting. - they say he had "body armor" on him... yet now they say he had no body armor on.

The little girl says the teacher read them TWO books while they were hiding and they played some games.. one was the Nutcracker.  How was there time to do all of that?  Then were is the footage of all the children coming out later.  The next child, a boy says "The police came into their room and says: Is he here? and then ran out"

The policeman at the 3:50 mark says "Checked all areas to evacuate 'any' and all students at that school."  He seemed to have "tripped up" a little and appeared flustered after he said "any."  Why would he say "any" students... when the school would have students in it?

At the 7 min mark is when they say he had two handguns on him and a semi automatic rifle was found in his car.  At the 7:02 mark is the only video of Ryan Lanza with the police and he is handcuffed.

The teacher at the 10:30 mark said she put ALL of her 15 first grade students and her in bathroom that was 3 feet by 2 feet?  That is not possible.
What is bizarre... she says at the 13:34 mark "My heart goes out to anyone who knew them."  as she has no tears but is 'crying.'  Then she begins to mumble and there is no understanding what she is saying.

For some reason Diane Sawyer asks at the 14:30 mark: "Do you wonder who did this?"
At 14:41 mark watch the video of parents (McDonnells) of the child, Grace, are coming out of the firehouse and they are smiling and laughing and do not seem distraught.

Tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School: What Happened During Newtown, Connecticut Shooting?


Also, I'm kind of confused as to when this 20/20 segment actually aired. On youtube, it says it was published on Dec. 14--so then this actually aired the night of the shooting?  If so, then all the footage had to be from that day. What seemed kind of strange to me was the footage of the red-haired girl early in the video. Maybe at about 1:48 mark or so they show footage of her kind of being silly at home with her family and the footage of her and her mother just doesn't seem consistent w/what you would expect of people who just went through such a traumatic experience.  Also, it's kind of hard to make out the quick footage of the McDonnells in the video above, but here's a photo that kind of shows the same thing (mother doesn't appear particularly distraught or agitated):  <!-- m -->http://forward.com/articles/167731/jewi ... e-victims/<!-- m -->

Christopher Marlowe

Maybe the Sandy Hook killer wasn't Adam Lanza, but the GHOST of Adam Lanza!
QuoteSSDI says Adam Lanza died a day before Sandy Hook massacre
Posted on January 20, 2013 by Dr. Eowyn | 46 Comments
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/ ... -massacre/

More "make crazy" information on the Sandy Hook massacre.

On December 14, 2012, beginning at around 9:30 a.m., a lone gunman, 20-year-old Adam Lanza, blasted past the security system of Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, and killed 20 first-grade students and 6 adults.

Before his killing spree in the school, Lanza had first killed his 52-year-old mother by shooting her four times in the face as she was lying in bed in the family mansion on Yogonanda Street.

When Adam heard police arriving at the school, he turned a gun on himself and committed suicide.

Or so we're told.

A sharp-eyed citizen journalist, "Space Command" on Prison Planet Forum, discovered something amazing: a Social Security Death Index (SSDI) for an Adam Lanza, born April 22, 1992, who died at age 20 on December 13, 2012! That's a day BEFORE the Sandy Hook massacre.

Adam P. Lanza: Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Death Record
Name: Adam P. Lanza
State of Issue: New Hampshire
Date of Birth: Wednesday April 22, 1992
Date of Death: Thursday December 13, 2012
Est. Age at Death: 20 years, 7 months, 21 days
Confirmation: Proven

Here's a screenshot I just took of the SSDI record on the website GenealogyBank.com, as a prophylactic in case the site scrubs the page:
[Go to page for screenshot]
Adam Lanza died 12-13-2012

Note that:

    I took the screenshot at 2:29 pm, 1/20/2013 (see bottom right of image).
    SSDI says "Confirmation" is "Proven."
    The State of Issue is New Hampshire, not Connecticut.

GenealogyBank.com also has the SSDI record on Nancy Lanza, who died on the day of the massacre, December 14, 2012:

Nancy Lanza: Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Death Record
Name: Nancy Lanza
State of Issue: New Hampshire
Date of Birth: Tuesday September 06, 1960
Date of Death: Friday December 14, 2012
Est. Age at Death: 52 years, 3 months, 8 days
Confirmation: Proven

Here's a screenshot I took of the GenealogyBank.com page:

Nancy Lanza died 12-14-2012

The "State of Issue" being New Hampshire jogged my memory. I had seen New Hampshire in reference to Nancy Lanza before.

Indeed, I had.

On December 19, 2012, Rachel Quigley reports for the Daily Mail:

Sandy Hook gunman Adam Lanza was left home alone with an arsenal of weapons in the $1.4million mansion he lived in with his mother for three days while she went on vacation, it emerged today. [...] According to Headline News, Nancy Lanza had left Adam alone while she went on a mini-break to Bretton Woods in New Hampshire – something she often did. [...] The 52-year-old checked into the Omni Mount Washington Resort at 12:10pm on Tuesday, December 11, and checked out at 12:27pm on Thursday, [December 13].

H/t FOTM reader Tani

For our other posts on the massacre, see our "Sandy Hook Massacre" page.
Update:

I did a search for "Adam Lanza" on emailfinder.com (paid membership), these are the results (name, age, residence):

    Adam H. Lanza, age 47, Lake Ariel, PA
    Adam Lanza, age 24, Glen Cove, NY
    Adam N. Lanza, age 32, Oceanside, CA
    Adamo (or Adam) Lanza, age 90, Epping, NH and Seminole, FL
    Adam J. Lanza, age 35, Albany, NY
    Adam H. Lanza, no age, Waymart, PA
    Adam M. Lanza, age 27, Kissimmee, FL
    Adam Carmellobergma Lanza, 24, Hartford, CT
    Adam J. Lanza, 35, Georgetown, KY
    Adam Lanza, Honesdale, PA

A search for "Adam Lanza" on Zaba Free People Search (data from White Pages) obtained these results:

    Adam N. Lanza, Las Vegas, NV
    Adam Lanza, New Haven, CT
    Adam Lanza, Exeter, NH
    Adam Lanza, age 32, San Diego, CA (same person as no. 1; see Intelius)
    Adam Lanza, age 47, Hicksville, NY
    Adam Lanza, age 27, Kissimmee, FL
    Adam Lanza, age 47, Lake Ariel, PA (same person as no. 5; see Intelius)
    Adam Lanza, age 24, Hartford, CT
    Adam Lanza, Seminole, FL

I searched for "Adam Lanza, Exeter, NH" on Spokeo (paid membership), and found:

    Adam Lanza, age 80s, who lives on North Rd., Exeter, NH (he appears to be the same Adam Lanza, age 80s, who lives on Main St., Epping, NH).

Note that no Adam Lanza in the above lists is age 20. Therefore, in all likelihood, SSDI's Adam Lanza, age 20, who died on Dec. 13, 2012, is the alleged Sandy Hook killer, Adam Lanza of Newtown, CT.
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FrankDialogue

Quote from: "Amanda"I was listening to an audio w/Fetzer and Professor Tracy and they were highly suspicious of Dr. Carver's presentation/performance. Tracy mentioned something about how the guy doesn't have any identification on his white coat--I think he said that medical examiners (in this case, Chief Medical Examiner for the State of CT) usually have a badge of some type? Also at 4:12 is when Carver said "I hope the people of Newtown don't have it come crashing down on their head" (that was the cryptic comment that Tracy picked up on).  At 10:41 he was asked where the kids' bodies were found (whether they were running away of found under desks) and he wasn't able to answer it, but said "obviously I was on the scene, but I'll let the scene guys address that."  Another thing I thought was strange was at 14:05 when is seems like a reporter must have asked Carver about the vehicles used to transport the bodies. His response was that they "make them as unmarked and nondescript as possible to foil you guys." I honestly have no idea what standard practice is for coroners, but I kind of thought that they had govt. issued vehicles that said "County Coroner" or something like that. I could be wrong, but it just seemed strange.

Earlier in the thread, trying to get some further info on Carver, I posted an article from one of the Connecticut newspapers about controversy surrounding Carver's annual salary of $300000...This article I believe was from January/February 2012...So, there was a Wayne Carver who is/was CT's state medical Examiner.

However, the fat clown who gave that video performance, if it was H. Wayne Carver, State Medical Examiner, will not be allowed in the spotlight again.

Fuhgettaboutit.

FrankDialogue

Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"Maybe the Sandy Hook killer wasn't Adam Lanza, but the GHOST of Adam Lanza!

Please note that this 'Genealogy Bank' is a commercial website, and not the government SSDI.

There has been no positive ID of Adam Lanza...None.  :eh:

FrankDialogue

Genealogy Bank Website

from WhoIs:

Genealogybank.com
Whois Analysis:


Welcome to the Network Solutions(R) Registrar WHOIS Server.

The IP address from which you have visited the Network Solutions Registrar WHOIS
database is contained within a list of IP addresses that may have failed
to abide by Network Solutions' WHOIS policy. Failure to abide by this policy can
adversely impact our systems and servers, preventing the processing of
other WHOIS requests.


Whois Query: genealogybank.com
YOUR IP address is 174.120.83.152
Date and Time of Query: Tue Jan 22 17:46:49 EST 2013
Reason Code: IE
We know the server for the website is in Middletown Township NJ: This is all we know.

Go to page two for the complete whois info:
http://www.webstatzone.com/stat/genealogybank.com.htm

Christopher Marlowe

QuotePlease note that this 'Genealogy Bank' is a commercial website, and not the government SSDI.

There has been no positive ID of Adam Lanza...None. :eh:
Good catch.
In re: positive ID of Adam Lanza, did we already run that video of the lady showing her searches for Peter, Nancy and Ryan Lanza? Those searches each turned up evidence of the other two members of the family, but NONE turned up Adam Lanza.

There is also a photo that purports to be of AL in his class portrait at Sandy Hook 10+ years ago.  Of course, Adam Lanza is not lined up with everyone else, but standing off to the side with the teacher.  <cough> <cough> photoshop <cough>

I was surprised to see AL listed on the SSDI, and as you pointed out, that is a commercial site. I haven't been able to get on the SSDI.  Is it no longer accessible to the public?
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FrankDialogue

I don't know if the SSDI was ever available to the public, especially online, unless you were inquiring about info for yourself, a relative, or someone you had AN ACTUAL SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER FOR...You cannot get this info by telephone.

Where is a Connecticut state driver's license, photo ID, or corresponding number for Adam Lanza?...Where is an ID for the community college he supposedly attended?...What was the name of this community college?...All unanswered questions.

They will not be answered.

Michael K.

Dude looks like a lady.  One on left obviously hiding "something" under jacket.

[youtube:3e1ycsyt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjfeoyO4TN0[/youtube]3e1ycsyt]
Mystery Nuns in Sandy Hook

[youtube:3e1ycsyt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgTY1RdPpTM[/youtube]3e1ycsyt]
Mystery Nuns in Sandy Hook continued

[youtube:3e1ycsyt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyrRf_dHcvk[/youtube]3e1ycsyt]
Adam Lanza early report was dressed in a clergy uniform priest nun minister

[youtube:3e1ycsyt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETkrxfYoQtc[/youtube]3e1ycsyt]
QuotePublished on Dec 14, 2012

12/14/12 Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting - Radio traffic from Newtown PD & FD mixed with CT State Police. Original audio tracks provided by RadioReference.com under Creative Commons license. This video is copyright Radioman911.com


http://theintelhub.com/2013/01/15/sandy ... un-outfit/
QuoteNote: The following transcript is timestamped from the code on the actual video image displayed not the YouTube time counter.

    11:13:33 am - Be advised that the suspect has a carry permit.

    11:16:57 - Last seen on Stony Hill by exit 8, multiple people in a van with masks on, one appears to be dressed in a nun outfit.

    11:29:43 - Last seen by exit 8 on 84, unknown plate, unknown travel direction, possibly involved in shooting, use caution there may be a weapon involved.

    11:31:35 - I am in the school, I can confirm the school has been checked three times over and they are doing a fourth.

    11:38:25 - "I'm transporting him over to Newtown PD." – (Question: Who is him? Possibly another suspect?)

    11:38:38 - Vehicle showing expired as of yesterday, 2011 Chevy???

    11:40 - Going down the ramp on the main road 11:40:55 drew, if you can ucom 33, regarding the "situation".

memory hole

This is worth a listen, kinda a fits in with Mark Glenns theory of divide and conquer.

Not sure I agree with the being done to ferment a  civil war, I doubt this would start a civil war between the "truthers" and "non truthers".

I would imagine the "non truthers" are too asleep, dumbed down to even contemplate a civil war.

SH certainly does seem to be dividing the truth movement even more, not that its ever been really cohesive in the 1st place.

I believe Mark Glenn is pukka, and just having emotional responses defending his work on Zionism and 9/11.

Still though, the media always pulls the anti-Semitic card anyway so why be particularity worried about it now?  <!-- s<$> --><$><!-- s<$> -->

Were used to it are we not?


Michael K.

memory hole wrote:

QuoteNot sure I agree with the being done to ferment a civil war, I doubt this would start a civil war between the "truthers" and "non truthers".

I would imagine the "non truthers" are too asleep, dumbed down to even contemplate a civil war.

SH certainly does seem to be dividing the truth movement even more, not that its ever been really cohesive in the 1st place.

I just figured it out last night, I think that SH is a dress rehearsal to set the stage for an Obama staged "assassination."  And that will start a civil war, as the race riots following such an event will undoubtedly make the LA riots look tame. It seems likely that there will be an alleged "Sandy Hook conspiracy theorist / 2nd Amendment fanatic" who will be the alleged shooter.  Virtuous brown people will want to smash the evil white man with his guns.  A dragnet with sealed warrants is probably being prepared "in the event" that something like that happens, which will be used to round up "Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists" as traitors.  That's why some people in the know won't touch it with a ten foot pole, if you know whom I mean.  Be warned.


Timothy_Fitzpatrick

MK, not sure if it's been posted yet, but I read that FEMA was running drills blocks away on the same day of the shooting.
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Amanda

Info on drills on Dec 13th here: <!-- m -->http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetai ... CD83CDC9C7<!-- m -->  (I think there might have been others as well)

More info here:  <!-- m -->http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/201 ... cy-drills/<!-- m -->


Also, Professor Tracy recently wrote about shooting at Taft High School possibly being an active shooter drill gone live:

Taft Union High School Drill Becomes "Real Life"
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Was the tragic January 10 shooting at Taft Union High School part of a drill that "went live"? This is the impression one gets when analyzing media reports of the incident, such as those from CNN correspondent Khung Lah.



Taft School District Superintendent Bill McDermott stated that on the morning of January 10 at 7:30AM PST Taft Union High School staff participated in "lockdown training." The public school, located roughly two hours northwest of Los Angeles, encompasses grades nine through 12 with about 935 students and 64 faculty members.[1]

According to CNN, just one hour after a routine school lockdown drill, a student armed with a 12-gauge shotgun opened fire, seriously injuring another student who was taken to hospital in critical condition.

In a January 10 exchange between CNN's Anderson Cooper and correspondent Kyung Lah, the latter reveals how the incident arose from a drill that went live minutes later.

Kyung Lah: Another thing that they're also crediting are drills. The school, Anderson, just this morning, had a drill as to what to do if a shooter was in the school, a drill that became real life just an hour later.

Lah's observation of the peculiar coincidence was left undeveloped by program host Anderson Cooper, who immediately steered the reporter in a direction more supportive of the overt storyline.
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Looks like there were active shooter drills the week before the recent shooting at Lone Star College:

3 Training Excercises This Week At Lone Star College - Active Shooter Drill


QuotePublished on Jan 22, 2013 - Ah yes, the infamous drill hallmark we magically see every time. Why would we expect anything different? To hell with math and probabilities.

Also, I know this isn't the Lone Star College shooting thread, but here's a little more weirdness about it:

Mandatory Ominous Foreshadowing In Lone Star Shooting
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QuotePublished on Jan 22, 2013 - This is the hallmark of a mass shooting or any terror event.

If anyone is interested in following this shooting, the guy at the HistoricalRecordsVLT youtube channel as some good videos on it (plus a ton on Batman/Aurora and Sandy Hook)


Also, just found the info below in the comments section of <!-- m -->http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/201 ... cy-drills/<!-- m -->

Mock Disaster Training Exercise in Scioto County

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QuotePORTSMOUTH, Ohio (WSAZ) -- A dead science teacher, weapons of mass destruction, first responders in hazmat suits and the Ohio Army National Guard all near the Municipal Stadium in Portsmouth, Thursday. There's no cause for alarm -- this is just a drill!

The mock disaster training exercise is being done with Scioto County first responders and the Ohio Army National Guard 52nd Civil Support Unit.

"It's the reality of the world we live in," says Portsmouth Police Chief Bill Raisin. "Don't forget there is such a thing as domestic terrorism. This helps us all be prepared."

The make-believe scenario is timely. Two school employees who are disgruntled over the government's interpretation of the Second Amendment, plot to use chemical, biological and radiological agents against members of the local community.

So I wonder if we are doing to see some sort of false flag blamed on those who defend the 2nd amendment??

Travis

What's with all these strange names, Sandy Hook and Lone Star, what's next Beach wolf?

Christopher Marlowe

A couple of pages back, I posted the still that is being examined here.  It is fake. Go to see it for yourself on Google.  Telephone poles can spring up, and street signs can grow taller.  Also "Dickenson" is mis-spelled as "Dickinson".  I wonder what Inyourson's Pooper thinks about that?
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FrankDialogue

Quote from: "Amanda"If anyone is interested in following this shooting, the guy at the HistoricalRecordsVLT youtube channel as some good videos on it (plus a ton on Batman/Aurora and Sandy Hook)


PORTSMOUTH, Ohio (WSAZ) -- A dead science teacher, weapons of mass destruction, first responders in hazmat suits and the Ohio Army National Guard all near the Municipal Stadium in Portsmouth, Thursday. There's no cause for alarm -- this is just a drill!

The mock disaster training exercise is being done with Scioto County first responders and the Ohio Army National Guard 52nd Civil Support Unit.

"It's the reality of the world we live in," says Portsmouth Police Chief Bill Raisin. "Don't forget there is such a thing as domestic terrorism. This helps us all be prepared."


Yeah, it's the 'reality TV' of the world we live in...I notice with the Texas shooting, a 'pre-recorded video clip that was sent out to faculty' is already being spliced into coverage of the 'event' for 'TV consumers'.

I would suggest that 90% of the people watching this 'breaking news coverage' would' be unable to distinguish differences between live footing and pre-recorded video.








FrankDialogue

Quote from: Christopher MarloweA couple of pages back, I posted the still that is being examined here.  It is fake. Go to see it for yourself on Google.  Telephone poles can spring up, and street signs can grow taller.  Also "Dickenson" is mis-spelled as "Dickinson". 
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Very good video; illustrates the use of composite images to deceive.

FrankDialogue



One month after school massacre, parents of Sandy Hook victims speak, urging 'real change'

By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News | The Lookout – Mon, Jan 14, 2013


Parents of Sandy Hook shooting victims attend a press conference in Newtown. (Dylan Stableford/Yahoo! News)

NEWTOWN, Conn.—Exactly a month after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School, dozens of teary-eyed family members, many clutching framed photos of their slain children, gathered in the basement of the town hall on Main Street to announce the launch of Sandy Hook Promise. The group's mission is to promote a national dialogue on gun violence, mental health and school safety—and to honor the 26 school shooting victims with a promise of "real change."

About 30 family members took their seats on a small stage underneath a basketball hoop at one end of the Edmond Town Hall gym for an emotional press conference attended by friends, community leaders, first responders and about 150 members of the media. Many wore green-and-white ribbons. Some held hands as tears streamed down their faces. Tissue boxes were placed at their feet.

Nicole Hockley, whose 6-year-old son Dylan was killed, was the first parent to speak.

"It's a sad honor to be here today," Hockley said, her voice occasionally cracking as she spoke. "At times it feels like only yesterday, and at others it feels like many years have passed. I expect him to crawl into bed beside me for early morning cuddles before school. It's so hard to believe he's gone."

"I'm Ana's mom," Nelba Márquez-Greene, whose 6-year-old was killed in the Dec. 14 shooting, said. "A month ago I put two children on the bus, and only one came home.

"We choose love, belief and hope instead of anger," she continued. "We choose love. Love wins. Love wins in Newtown. This is a promise to do everything in our power to be remembered not as the town filled with grief and victims but as a place where real change began," Márquez-Greene said.

"Doing nothing is no longer an option," noted Tom Bittman, co-founder of the initiative and a resident whose children once attended Sandy Hook School. "We want to Newtown to be remembered for change, not tragedy."

"My wife and I have spent the last month tasked with being the best possible parents for our surviving son, Nate," David Wheeler, whose son Ben was among the 20 first-graders killed, said. "But what we have recently come to realize is that we are not done being the best parents we can be for Ben. If there is something in our society that needs to be fixed or healed or resolved, it needs a point of origin. It needs parents."

Wheeler asked parents to begin the process of change by looking inward: "I would respectfully ask every parent that hears these words to pause and ask yourself, 'What is it worth to you? What is worth doing to keep your children safe?'"

Speakers urged supporters to sign the Sandy Hook Promise and to begin a dialogue "to identify and implement holistic, common-sense solutions that will make our community and our country safer from similar acts of violence."

The group stopped short of responding directly to the National Rifle Association, which said on Sunday that it has enough support in Congress to block any new gun-control laws. "We do not have any response to that," Tim Makris, another co-founder of the initiative, said. "We need to take the time to have a national discussion."

read more...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/sandy-hook-school-shooting-promise-181324286.html

FrankDialogue

More 'parents' and politiks...



'Wolf Blitzer' making a few comments at the end...Shockingly, the name Jesus Christ is allowed to be uttered on air by one of the parents.




memory hole



yep, I've just been Google earthing that, has too be utterly faked that shot.

As well as the missing "white" house There's also no "sign" of the small piece of "sign" in the left middle either?

That's the only shot I'm 100% convinced that has been totally faked.

Question is why?

Sloppy Journalism, psy-op, or purposely wanting to be caught to mix it up even more?

I mean there was ambulances and stuff at the fire station, why bother photo-shopping this?

They want us to find these clues i reckon. Muddy the waters. Total information war.

edit: I'm not getting that black out square the video poster was though.