Sandy Hook Connecticut state police hold a news conference in Newtown

[Christopher Marlowe]

Although I was mistaken about the "extension of the extension" aspect of this court order, there is another very important aspect concerning the facts supporting it.

1. That such documents would be sealed in the first place is suspicious. If things happened as the official (shifting) story contend: a lone gunman marched into the school and started shooting; The police responded, and found the crime scene. The police found identification/evidence that somehow implicated the Lanzas, and got a search warrant to the Lanza residence.

2. If there was only a lone gunman, then the investigation would have been straight forward, and after 14 days the evidence would have been released.

But here we find

Connecticut State's Attorney Stephen Sedensky has argued that unsealing warrants in the Sandy Hook case might "seriously jeopardize" the investigation by disclosing information known only to other "potential suspects."
    Sedensky said that unsealing the warrants would also:
    ""identify persons cooperating with the investigation, thus possibly jeopardizing their personal safety and well-being." "

Jeopardized by whom? Adam Lanza is supposedly dead by his own hand. Nancy Lanza is dead. Who are the other "potential suspects"?

The government wants it both ways: there is only one shooter AND there are many dangerous potential suspects.

The tricky part about the search warrant is that you need PROBABLE CAUSE to show that Incriminating Items will be found in a particular place.  You have to present the evidence amounting to PROBABLE CAUSE to a judge, and he will issue a warrant.  

But supposedly, the police thought they found Ryan Lanza at the scene. People are speculating that Adam Lanza was carrying Ryan Lanza's drivers license, which had the 36 Yogananda Street address. Speculation is the the underage Adam used the license to buy liquor.

At this point, that seems like it wouldn't be problematic. Government agencies can easily fake a drivers license, can't they? The timing of the warrant might be suspicious: we might have a warrant that was issued at 12:00, and then reports of the cops showing up at the Lanza House before that...

I have seen stories about cops showing up at the Lanza's BEFORE the shooting, but nothing solid; i.e. GLP postings, or something like that.

But IF the story was as the government says, it would be no problem to produce the evidence: the ID on the shooter. That would be probable cause to search the house. Warrant issued. No problem.  But they withheld that evidence for another 90 days?  Why?  

The statement by the CT prosecutor's office is the first indication from state authorities that Adam Lanza may have not acted alone. The statement was made in support of a motion to continue the seal on the results of five search warrants for 90 more days.
    CT State Police Public Affairs Officer Lt. Paul Vance said in an official press release on December 16th that:
    "The male subject identified as the shooter at Sandy Hook Elementary School has been identified as ADAM LANZA DOB: 04/22/92; he resided at 36 Yogananda Street. His cause of death was gunshot wound and his death is ruled a suicide."
    However, neither Vance nor the CT Attorney General's office have ever ruled out the possible presence of other suspects. The New Haven Register reports Vance as having said: "Whenever you conduct an investigation you don't speculate as to where it's going to take you, as I said, we're going to look at every single thing, every piece of material and we'll take it from there."
    The CT State Attorney General's Office is handling the investigation of the mass shooting, in which 20 children and 8 adults died last December 14th.
    The motion to extend the seal on the records for 90 days was granted by Superior Court Judge John Blawie, who wrote in his decision that:
    ""The court finds that due to the nature and circumstances of this case and the ongoing investigation, the state's interest in continuing nondisclosure substantially outweighs any right to public disclosure at this time,""
    The warrants were for searches, on different dates, of the Lanza home, and of Adam Lanza's mother's two cars. One of the cars, a 2010 black Honda Civic, was the vehicle which Lanza allegedly drove to the crime scene. The other, a 2009 silver BMW, was parked in the garage attached to the Lanza home. The court motion seals the affidavits stating what was found upon execution of the warrants for another 90 days, until late March.
    Little else is known about what the authorities may be referring to in support of the motion to seal the affidavits for another 90 days beyond the normal statutory allowance of 14 days. Lt. Vance did say in a press conference on December 15, 2012, somewhat apologetically for not being able to answer all of the reporters' questions, that there were "some cards that we're holding close to our vest."
    State's Attorney Sedensky wrote in the motion that:
    ""No arrests have been made and none are currently anticipated, but have not been ruled out.""
    Sedensky said:
    ""There is information in the search warrant affidavits that is not known to the general public""
    An image of the key passages in the court motion is below. The entire document has been uploaded at Scribd by the New Haven Register, the venerable New England newspaper associated with the home of Yale University.
    (FULL LANZA WARRANT MOTION HERE)
    Motion to extend seal on Lanza search warrant affidavits
    Public records
    Motion to extend seal on Lanza search warrant affidavits

    Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/3 ... z2KA9DMFbp

Perhaps a better reason for sealing these documents was DAMAGE CONTROL. As is typical with these false flag events, the perps made a lot of mistakes that were caught right away. Maybe there was another story that got changed, and that story was put into the documents?  Sealing these documents gives them 90 days to think of, and fabricate evidence of, some solid reasons to have gone to the Lanza House.

[Christopher Marlowe]

[FrankDialogue]

[youtube:2nmv36ie]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEHhu-shiL8[/youtube]2nmv36ie]

Photo journalism is like wire service stories: It all comes from the same sources and is changed here and there, or not changed, depending on where the feed is going to.

For instance, if you read Yahoo news, you'll find that 80% of the stories on 'Yahoo News' come from Associated Press, and many Associated Press wire feeds come from Reuters, or vice versa.

There are two reasons for this: One, costs are kept down because it is expensive to employ too many reporters (or photographers); Two, it gives more consistent control over the final product.

The real work is done in the editing, which takes 'raw info' or footage, and puts it in a 'proper context'...Quite simple...Same with photos: One photo may appear many times with slight photo shop changes as to background etc, because it is cheaper and more controllable...Sometimes, due to contract specifications, one photo used by different media outlets multiple times may be credited to a number of different 'photographers'...This is how MSM media operates in a business sense.

Some publications may do something as simple as taking a Google image that is not copywrited, put it through 'Photo Shop' and voila,  supposedly new picture.

In fact, traditional journalism is dead; the end result of the journalism we see is shaped more by someone behind a computer keyboard than by reporters or photographers on the street.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Photo journalism is like wire service stories: It all comes from the same sources and is changed here and there, or not changed, depending on where the feed is going to.

For instance, if you read Yahoo news, you'll find that 80% of the stories on 'Yahoo News' come from Associated Press, and many Associated Press wire feeds come from Reuters, or vice versa.

There are two reasons for this: One, costs are kept down because it is expensive to employ too many reporters (or photographers); Two, it gives more consistent control over the final product.

The real work is done in the editing, which takes 'raw info' or footage, and puts it in a 'proper context'...Quite simple...Same with photos: One photo may appear many times with slight photo shop changes as to background etc, because it is cheaper and more controllable...Sometimes, due to contract specifications, one photo used by different media outlets multiple times may be credited to a number of different 'photographers'...This is how MSM media operates in a business sense.

Some publications may do something as simple as taking a Google image that is not copywrited, put it through 'Photo Shop' and voila, supposedly new picture.

In fact, traditional journalism is dead; the end result of the journalism we see is shaped more by someone behind a computer keyboard than by reporters or photographers on the street.

Yes, I thought about this too. But I think it is more than just sharing resources. It looks more like fabrication.  I posted this video a couple of pages back:
[youtube:1rioljgn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjhVs5DHReM[/youtube]1rioljgn]

What are all those blue smudges that show up at the edges?  We already know they use green screens for news shots, and there are numerous examples from Sandy Hook; e.g. Gene Rosen, the girl in the park, etc...  Is it so unbelievable that the green screen news shots included those shots of the parents?

Of course, if those were faked, then the whole flipping thing is a fake. There's a big difference between Inyourson's Pooper being too lazy to go out to Sandy Hook, and shooting everything in a studio; and actually faking the grief of a parent after being told that their child was shot.

We know from the background of the various posted shots that the pictures were fabricated AFTER the fact. We know that the press pooled resources, and that they all used the same shot. The green screen video suggests that the whole thing was fabricated.  Moreover, there were other videos shot from the firehouse that we know were fabricated because the background in the video is wrong:

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That whole video doesn't make sense.  Supposedly, the police showed up right after the shooting, and Adam Lanza shot himself BEFORE they got there. But then, hours later, after the children are getting picked up by their parents, they have police with weapons drawn, moving car to car?  Why? This makes zero sense.

[Travis]

That whole video doesn't make sense.  Supposedly, the police showed up right after the shooting, and Adam Lanza shot himself BEFORE they got there. But then, hours later, after the children are getting picked up by their parents, they have police with weapons drawn, moving car to car?  Why? This makes zero sense.

Hi Christopher: the police going from car to car is merely an act. If you look closely at the cop who approaches the white car his rifle is lowered but as he get close enough to see no one is in the car he raises his rifle. If the cop really feared there was an armed man in the white car his rifle would have been raised and aimed at the car the entire time. Also if they thought some one may have been hiding in anyone of those car they would have not moved in that manner. They pass the black car (perhaps a SUV) without even taking a look inside. Their maneuvers are pure bullshit and seem to be for the cameras only.

[Ognir]

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[FrankDialogue]

I was reviewing the news today, and also searching for any Sandy Hook updates that have come across the wire for the month of February.

Nothing...The Sandy Hook event seems to have gone into the 'dustbin of history'.

I reviewed the new videos posted, but I didn't glean too much from them that hasn't already been discussed....One strange thing in one of them, and this was also brought to light in a previously posted video, maybe 3-4 weeks ago, is the appearance of men in military garb seeming to be speaking a foreign language, probably Slavic of some kind...This is really confusing...Who were these men?  :?

In any case, I intend to keep an eye on this whole thing, because now they have had the time to tighten up the cover story, and hope that we will just lose interest in the whole affair.

[Travis]

I was reviewing the news today, and also searching for any Sandy Hook updates that have come across the wire for the month of February.

Nothing...The Sandy Hook event seems to have gone into the 'dustbin of history'.

Perhaps the experiment or the caper they pulled while we  were distracted is over?

[FrankDialogue]

I was reviewing the news today, and also searching for any Sandy Hook updates that have come across the wire for the month of February.

Nothing...The Sandy Hook event seems to have gone into the 'dustbin of history'.

Perhaps the experiment or the caper they pulled while we  were distracted is over?

Could be.  :shifty:

They are 'past masters of distraction'.

[Ognir]

chinese English news source
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world ... 178083.htm

Newtown shooter motivated by Norway massacre: source

BEIJING, Feb. 19 (Xinhuanet) -- Adam Lanza, who killed 26 people in Connecticut of the United States last year, was motivated by a Norwegian mass murderer.

Police sources told the media Monday that the 20-year old Lanza was obsessed with Anders Breivik, who murdered 77 people in July 2011.

Lanza believed that he was in a direct competition with Breivik. He intended to exceed Breivik's death toll. Lanza targeted nearby Sandy Hook Elementary School because it was the "easiest target" with the "largest cluster of people," the source noted.

On Dec. 14 of last year, Lanza killed his mother before carrying out the shooting rampage. He sprayed two classrooms with bullets and killed 20 first graders and six adults.

Unlike Breivik, who surrendered, Lanza turned the gun to himself as police closed in.

Officials have not publicly revealed what led them to the motive, but sources said that Lanza was indulged in playing violent video games.

The police said they found a "trove" of video games from the basement of Lanza's home, where he would spend countless hours alone in a private gaming room with the windows blacked out, honing his computer shooting skills.

Police said he used three weapons in shooting massacre, all registered to his mother Nancy Lanza, and shot his mother with a fourth weapon.

The Connecticut State Police said that the investigation has not finished and that any statements about Lanza's intentions were just speculation.

(Source: agencies)

[Krag]

According to the Danbury News-Times, the state police are confirming none of this, and have serious problems with such theories.  

PBS will air a program tonight as an attempt at investigative journalism on the Adam Lanza story.

Memory Hole has been doing its own updates, with CNN in their rear view mirrors by now.

http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/02/18/th ... the-story/

The attacks on Fetzer and Tracy as somehow "anti-Semitic" are particularly dishonest as their is a world of difference between Zionism, Christian-Zionism and other variants, and "anti-Semitism".

Just look at the origin of the term "Semitic":  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic

I was recently attacked as having engaged in defamation by calling a Jewish sports club member a sleazebag, but I never mentioned anything racial....

[FrankDialogue]

Sandy Hook News

Author and illustrator create Sandy Hook tribute




Patricia McLachhlin

Published: February 25, 2013

 The Associated Press

NEW YORK — The author of the children's classic "Sarah, Plain and Tall" is teaming up with an acclaimed illustrator for a tribute to the victims of the Sandy Hook school shootings.

Random House Children's Books announced Monday that it will publish the picture story "Snowflakes Fall," by Newbery Medal winner Patricia MacLachlan and her longtime friend and former Newtown, Conn., resident, Steven Kellogg. The book comes out Nov. 12 and will feature words and images about the Connecticut community where a gunman killed 20 elementary school students and six faculty members. The publisher will donate a portion of proceeds to an organization that helps the Sandy Hook community.

MacLachlan won the Newbery, given to the writer of the year's best children's book, in 1986 for "Sarah, Plain and Tall."

Read more here: http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2013/02/ ... rylink=cpy

[FrankDialogue]

chinese English news source
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world ... 178083.htm

Newtown shooter motivated by Norway massacre: source

BEIJING, Feb. 19 (Xinhuanet) -- Adam Lanza, who killed 26 people in Connecticut of the United States last year, was motivated by a Norwegian mass murderer.

Police sources told the media Monday that the 20-year old Lanza was obsessed with Anders Breivik, who murdered 77 people in July 2011.

Lanza believed that he was in a direct competition with Breivik. He intended to exceed Breivik's death toll. Lanza targeted nearby Sandy Hook Elementary School because it was the "easiest target" with the "largest cluster of people," the source noted.

On Dec. 14 of last year, Lanza killed his mother before carrying out the shooting rampage. He sprayed two classrooms with bullets and killed 20 first graders and six adults.

Unlike Breivik, who surrendered, Lanza turned the gun to himself as police closed in.

Officials have not publicly revealed what led them to the motive, but sources said that Lanza was indulged in playing violent video games.

The police said they found a "trove" of video games from the basement of Lanza's home, where he would spend countless hours alone in a private gaming room with the windows blacked out, honing his computer shooting skills.

Police said he used three weapons in shooting massacre, all registered to his mother Nancy Lanza, and shot his mother with a fourth weapon.

The Connecticut State Police said that the investigation has not finished and that any statements about Lanza's intentions were just speculation.

(Source: agencies)

Complete bullshit.

[maz]

Sandy Hook News

Author and illustrator create Sandy Hook tribute

Next thing you know we're going to hearing about lost Sandy Hook children being raised by wolves and swallowing, defecating and re-swallowing diamonds and whatnot.

First thing I heard on NPR this morning was some more Sandy Hook bullshit. They are really trying to ram this down our throats, but no one I know is even talking about Sandy Hook. They really never were talking about it beyond the day it happened.

[FrankDialogue]

First thing I heard on NPR this morning was some more Sandy Hook bullshit. They are really trying to ram this down our throats, but no one I know is even talking about Sandy Hook. They really never were talking about it beyond the day it happened.

None of my neighbors have talked about it till this day.

Two reasons I think: #1, their first reaction was the same as mine 'This shit happening again?'...Number 2, the peeps in my neighborhood are what's left of the White working class, lower middle class, and they're all scared of something: Afraid for their jobs, afraid of 'authorities', afraid of their wives, afraid to ask questions....They're even afraid of me a little bit, because I'm 'different' but they know I was born around here before most of them were born, so I don't have problems.

I've actually talked to a few about 911, and they were curious, but still think Arabs with box cutters did it...They're American Legion, VFW types who like sports, like to drink beer, and hate niggers...Not a lot of hope here.  :slient:

[SimonOfTRrent]

GLARING INCONSISTENCIES OF THE NEWTOWN SCHOOL SHOOTING

1. The 'official' story has the shooter using an AR-15 semi-automatic .223 caliber rifle as the main weapon. The Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver II testified that he found many bullets in the bodies of the victims.
A .223 rifle bullet travels at approximately 3,000 ft/sec and kindergartners don't have much body mass to hinder a projectile's penetration, yet he doesn't see many exit wounds?
 Later news reports from un-named Federal and state authorities say that FOUR HANDGUNS were removed from the school and NO RIFLE WAS USED. There was a Saiga 12 shotgun in the locked trunk of the suspects car trunk.


2. Who was the guy the police arrested dressed in camo pants in the woods? And why did they put him in the front of the police car? There was also another man running away from the police into the woods. Who are these guys? The guy in the front seat must have had official credentials but he still ran from the police? One report has it that this guy is a tactical officer from another area but they never explain WHY he was at the scene and why does he run from the police!

3. Newtown, CT is the recruitment headquarters of Anton Lavey's Church of Satan.
In several photos the Parker girls and another adult are seen flashing the two-horned finger hand signs.


4. Robbie Parker's interview looked like a staged performance of an actor 'getting into character' before giving an emotional scene. (and he happens to work for a multi-national security firm). Another photo has him smirking in a limo at his daughter's funeral.


5. The emotional Jew Gene Rosen's conflicting performances: The unnamed 'bus driver' is sometimes a man and sometimes a woman. Why didn't the bus driver just simply walk the children to the fire station rather than leave them with a stranger?

6. Gene Rosen says he sees the casualty list two days before it's posted. He also happens to work for FEMA and many of the "parents" just happen to have theatrical backgrounds.

7. Where is the video of the shooter approaching the school grounds?

8. How did the shooter(s) enter the building? No photos of the front door to the building, bullet holes, victims receiving triage or on stretchers? I've seen exactly ONE elderly woman who didn't appear to be severely wounded and ONE adult sized body covered on a stretcher. That's IT!

9. There are MULTIPLE accounts of Sandy Hook Memorial Funds being posted days BEFORE the shooting. OK, maybe there's a legitimate reason for one or possibly two instances but there are about a half a dozen wrong dates posted associated with Sandy Hook victims.

10. Obama's fake tears (wiped away appropriately with his middle finger).

11. 'Sandy Hook' appearing in a screen shot of the latest Batman movie.

12. One of the deceased children Natalie Barden just happened to have previously composed a letter to Obama pleading for gun control and just happened to paint a surreal picture of an owl (owls are prominent in Illuminati symbolism).

13. No (or very few) wounded victims in a mass shooting? Statistically impossible especially if the shooter is an untrained psycho. Where's the video of the women with the wounded foot?

14. Ambulances and first responders completely blocked in and NONE prepared to give triage in the school parking lot. They were ALL 300 yards away at the firehouse.


15. How could Principal Dawn Hochsprung make comments to the Newtown Bee newspaper describing the masked gunman entering the school after the incident and also be a deceased victim?


"Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows (shots?) – more than she could count – that went "on and on."

All of Newtown's schools are in lockdown, and the private schools have in town have been notified of an alleged shooting being reported at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

17. The Police radio transmissions describe a purple van with the rear window blasted out with several occupants wearing ski masks and one dressed as a nun. The van was reported found abandoned but were prints ever run? Were any of these characters ever apprehended and questioned?

18. The black Honda car that Adam Lanza supposedly used was not his, nor his deceased mother's but was registered to some known pedophile/drug dealer named Chris Rodia. Did the police confiscate that car and plant it at the elementary school? The debunkers claim that Chris Rodia was pulled over at another part of town, however, his license plate number matches the car at the elementary school.

19. Do a web search on the Greenburg and Sexton family. A half a dozen or so members of these Jewish families bear a striking resemblance to both victims and the victims grieving families. Crisis Actors? Who can you trust to keep secrets than your own family?

19. There is a photo of James Holmes sitting next to a woman attorney that looks exactly like Jennifer Phelps in the CT shooting scene. Mr. Phelps (who gives an utterly unconvincing video portrayal) also appears to be married to the same woman in the posted Facebook Greenburg photo albums.

20. The emotional Jew Gene Rosen claims that the kids were crying about their dead teacher Miss Soto. But how could these students survive the attack on Ms. Soto's class when no other school victims in her class survived and none were wounded? Possibly they were hidden in the classroom but they don't claim they were. Do you know how difficult it is to get small children to remain silent?

21. Lt. Vance of the Sheriff's Dept. authoritatively declares that anyone on the Internet who dares to post anything regarding the shooting that conflicted with what he spoke thru the microphones will be subject to Federal prosecution. Where's our First Amendment rights to free speech?

22. The parents and relatives of the victims were not asked to identify the physical bodies but instead, where only shown pictures of the faces of their loved ones. This is NOT standard procedure for body identification.

23. Where's the footage of 600 students being evacuated from the school? The school was placed on lockdown and several helicopters were circling for hours but not a single frame of footage of a mass evacuation of students? The one shot of a line of students being escorted was stock footage from a similar safety drill.

24. The AR-15 was initially found by the police in the trunk of the car, then the story is changed to finding a shotgun there. While the latest reports have four handguns and no rifle taken from the school. It seems that totalitarian governments may be more worried about facing rifles in the hands of citizenry than handguns.


25. The previous day to the shooting Adam Lanza reportedly gets into an argument with four school employees but there's no heightened security on the following day. And no one is interviewed as to what the argument was about. Also the Social Security Death Master File lists Adam Lanza as dieing on the previous day (Dec.13, 2012).

26. Why would the shooter (Adam Lanza) use a smoke grenade or wear a mask? It would only obstruct his view and he'd have to breathe the smoke as well?

27. Sandy Hook Elementary School sign is placed 300 yards from the school grounds near the fire station?

28. Sandy Hook school nurse who work at the school for 15 years Sally (or Sarah) Cox claims that Nancy Lanza was such a nice kindergarten teacher in an interview. Turns out Nancy Lanza was never a teacher there and there is no record of a registered nurse by that name! I'm not sure if the affluent divorced Mrs. Lanza was ever a teacher. She lived in a 6,000 sq. ft. mansion and collected a large alimony check from her ex-husband (who just may be involved in the LIBOR bank scandal). Sally Cox tells one reporter she "locked eyes with the gunman then hid behind her desk" then later claims to only see the gunman's legs thru a computer access hole. She also claims to have hid with a secretary for almost four hours in a storage closet. How could the police not have searched that closet when they cleared the school?

29. No one has seen Adam Lanza in 3 years including his brother Ryan, but Adam is found possessing Ryan's identification. There is one report that Adam officially changed his name to Ryan. Another small detail emerged in the course of the interview, this time about Adam Lanza. Lanza was vegan, according to Hanoman, because he "didn't want to hurt animals." He doesn't look or sound like a deranged gunman.

30. Ryan Lanza was tweeting like mad that he was innocent when he was initially named as the shooter but now he and his father have gone stone silent.

31. Homeland Security and FEMA just happened to be running safety drills specifically on "Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters" FEMA L-366 in a crisis in the Newtown area on Dec. 14, 2012 Similar drill also occurred on the same day in the London bombings and a day prior to 9/11 attacks in New York City in 2001.

32. Emilie Parker does not appear in any of the class photos and the supposed deceased little girl appears with Pres. Obama. Supposedly the girl with the president is the middle sister Madilene but oddly she's dressed in Emilie's red dress and looks exactly like the eldest daughter. Possibly the 'middle daughter' is actually Emilie and the family photos have been photoshopped and Emily just happens to be positioned to the edge of the pictures. The Parkers live in an affluent town but their girls wear the same hand-me-downs dress over and over again for recent family portraits and Presidential meetings? Also in the two publicized photos of the Parker Family the parents look to have aged at least six years between the two photos but the children only about two years?

33. There is another woman claims her daughter's facebook picture was used as one of the photos of the deceased children. Other 'deceased victims' bear striking resemblance to children who were reported missing years ago.

34. The entire town of Newtown received a recent massive renovation and facelift. There is a hair salon in Newtown called Sandy Hook Hair Co. Their company logo is a blood red hand with a small white heart in the center next to this word: "Shh...co" See SandyHookHairCo(dot)com Weird!

34. Adam Lanza, judging by the photos, looks to be about 130 lbs. soaking wet. Yet, we are to believe he carried four handguns, an AR-15 rifle, (multiple loaded magazines), smoke grenades, a bulletproof vest, combat boots and wore a mask? How about how the brother hasn't seen his little brother for years but Adam somehow had his ID?
35. Ok, let me see if I can this straight. The 'man in the woods' was: An off duty firefighter/tactical squad officer/PE teacher/scout leader who was a father of a student and was hunting/chopping wood/or there to make gingerbread houses who was briefly detained by police and was name Pete something or Chris Manfredonia and he ". . .didn't do it"? Did I miss anything?

36. Some sharp-eyed individual found a Facebook pages of the Greenberg family (who just happen to have connections to powerful NWO types like Max Strong) in which many family members and cousins bear a striking resemblance to most of the so-called victims as well as their 'grieving' relatives. (See Leon Greenberg's Facebook page and click on "The Berkshires") They were all posers using aliases in their video interviews.

37. So far, we've seen about a half a dozen victim's families talking to the press. Why are the other twenty victim's families completely silent?

38. Perhaps the most striking aspect of this event is NOT A SINGLE TEAR was witnessed by anyone from the video interviews of the supposed 'grief-stricken' parents and relatives! They all seem well-rested, no swollen faces or bloodshot eyes or unable to speak cogently because they have been mourning. Many appear downright happy! "Quiet! Crisis Actors on the set!"

39. It's just a little too convenient that anyone who would've seen the shooter died, and we can't see the video, isn't it?

40. According to the SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX, the supposed shooter "Adam Lanza" died on December 13, 2012 which is 1 day PRIOR to the shooting event.on December 14, 2012.

41. There's helicopter footage of dozens of people walking out of one door of the fire station then walking around the building and entering in another door to give the illusion that there's more people in the fire station. And none of them appear to be children.

42. Sometimes it's the little things that make you wonder: There are no visable flagpole at fire station? 50 staff members at the school but only one (or maybe two) 911 calls when supposedly the intercom was broadcasting the initial assault? Next to no posted cell phone videos at the fire station and no one there heard "hundreds of gun shots" though Gene Rosen supposedly did?

43. "EVERYBODY MUST CHECK IN" illuminated flashing street sign behind one of Gene Rosen's interviews in front of the fire station. During a Full Scale Excercise all the operatives must check in before they are deployed to the emergency scene. And notice the two people in the background that abruptly part company once they know the camera is recording them. Many others wearing their emergency exercise name tags.


44. No name ever given for the janitor (hero?) who supposedly passed on the warning to various classrooms.

45. Stephen Barton, Aurora CO shooting survivor lives just minutes from Newtown, Connecticut. Stephen Barton is also an outspoken Gun Control advocate who works with Mayor Bloomberg of NYC.

46. How convenient that within days they just so happen to have a newly renovated school all ready for the Sandy Hook Elementary students to be moved into.

47. All the cars in the main school parking lot are parked in the same direction and most are black or grey (Govt. fleet cars?).

48. All of these major shootings are occurring in unincorporated townships.

49. No footage of 400-600 children exiting from the fire station or school grounds.

50. Why were their two black sweatshirts outside of Lanza/Rodin car if there was 'lone gunman"? And a female eyewitness first on the scene says all the car doors were opened. Who closed the doors?

51. I believe Nurse Cox said she was in the supply closet with a Ms. Halstead (for almost FOUR HOURS), who is the school secretary. I believe that Ms. Halstead is the ex-wife of Bill Halstead, the fire cheif, who was at the fire house that day, and mother of a Karin Halstead, who is the EMT chief. Why weren't they desperately looking for Ms. Halstead? SWAT teams clearing out the building couldn't find them either?
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[SimonOfTRrent]

Politics
Biden: I know 'gruesome' details from Sandy Hook that I can't share
February 27, 2013 | 3:03 pm | Modified: February 27, 2013
Washington Examiner


Speaking to the National Association of Attorneys General this afternoon, Vice President Joe Biden reminded the audience of the grisly horrors of the Sandy Hook massacre in Newtown, Connecticut. Biden insisted that the emotional impact of the Sandy Hook massacre had changed the public mood on gun control. "The excuse that its too politically risky to act, is no longer acceptable," Biden said.

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[FrankDialogue]

Lot's of questions here, Simon!  :lol:

I would say the basic one is: Where is any concrete evidence that this really happened?

[Christopher Marlowe]

I challenge MC Piper and Mark Glenn to answer this: why did CNN broadcast a police raid on St Rose of Lima School on the day of the Sandy Hook incident?

[Travis]

I challenge MC Piper and Mark Glenn to answer this: why did CNN broadcast a police raid on St Rose of Lima School on the day of the Sandy Hook incident?

I am done with MCP and MG. I am not sure why they are doing what they are doing but I can no longer take them seriously. I repeat it's one thing to say I think the evidence is weak, and it's another to call people nuts because they challenge the official narrative. The statements that MG made that pursing SH conspiracies will undermine the 'truth movement' is just ridiculous. Let me ask you all what would sound more crazy and offensive to the average brain dead American: the American government in collusion with Jews carried the 9/11 attacks to serve Israel and in doing so killed 3000 Americans, poisoned  thousands more and killed millions overseas in false wars, or the American government in collusion with Jews carried the SH shootings to serve Israel?

And don't get me started on MG's crazy theory that Jews were some how responsible for the fukushima disaster.  :crazy:

[FrankDialogue]

And don't get me started on MG's crazy theory that Jews were some how responsible for the fukushima disaster.  :crazy:

Well, certainly no Jewish plastic surgeon from Great Neck NY was involved, but the debate about Fukoshima was largely centered around the Stuxnet virus in which both the US and Israel have been implicated in using as a weapon to disable Iranian nuclear facilities.

Yes, American Free Press (Piper & Glenn) have chimed in, but there has been much discussion in many, many circles about Stuxnet.

It's a very interesting discussion, if you're interested.

Google search yields:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=stuxnet+virus+involved+in+fukushima+nuclear+disaster&spell=1&sa=X&psj=1&ei=uN8vUfqwLMLi0gH60oDQAg&ved=0CCwQvwUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43148975,d.dmQ&fp=2bdf0aab55d71c82&biw=800&bih=437

Then, some opinions:
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=969

http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/5852

http://onefamilyoneheart.wordpress.com/2011/03/23/was-fukushima-a-victim-of-stuxnet/

Vanity Fair 'Stuxnet' article:

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2011/04/stuxnet-201104



I'm sorry, thread about Sandy Hook, but your comment made me think back...

[FrankDialogue]

Back to Sandy Hook: No news is no news

The omnipresent 'Huffington Post', AOL/Tribe controlled, seeks to assure us that 'conspiracy theorists' are still at it, but since they have 'no solid evidence', we should just brush them aside as tomorrow they will go back to 'blaming the Jews, the Illuminati, the NWO'...'The healing process is underway' so why be troubled by more questions?...There is no God, only random mechanics...But, wait:

"We are hardwired to seek order in chaos, make meaning out of data noise, and it is paradoxically comforting to imagine that great tragedy is not just time and chance, but a function of some nefarious, pre-planned grand design," he added.

Couple of videos on there that might be worth a look.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/sandy-hook-conspiracy-theory-video-debunked_n_2487427.html

[memory hole]

whatever sandy hook is, its absolutely certain its been manipulated in some degree, as a distraction to divide and conquer any gelling together of the truth movement,a direct hit on your mind 'ala 9/11, psychological experiment into media and  manipulation, the shootings, are the red herring , to confuse and create division away from more pressing and important matters facing world affairs today. Consume focus of the alternative mind to endless insolvable mazes of conspiracies OF littleimportance in their twisted world, no matter how disturbing,
absolute order out of chaso in full effect.

[Krag]

There is a new podcast on this event:  http://americanfreepress.net/podcast/Sa ... orn128.mp3

The first book to be published apparently pokes holes in the official version.

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=8748

[FrankDialogue]

There is a new podcast on this event:  http://americanfreepress.net/podcast/Sa ... orn128.mp3

The first book to be published apparently pokes holes in the official version.

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=8748

So, Thorn has a job with AFP now?...He's must be getting a few bucks a month to live 'halfway up a mountain' as he says on the broadcast...Still can't find out who pays the bills at AFP.

The little fucker is saying his book 'does it all, collates everything in one place, you don't have to bother going anyplace else...I do it all for you...'

We have all the info compiled on this thread, from Day 1...I wonder if Mr. Makufka, I mean Thorn, sorry, ever looked at it.  :shifty:

[Ognir]

Thorn is a member here on TiU

[FrankDialogue]

Thorn is a member here on TiU

Well, no mention of TIU, and the whole narrative on his interview sounds like it could have been pulled directly off this thread.

You know, while I was listening I got annoyed, and with the interviewer too, and then he say 'I've compiled everything...'

Hell, this thread has everything from the beginning, already compiled FOR HIM...But, that's the way certain people operate.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Thorn is a member here on TiU

Well, no mention of TIU, and the whole narrative on his interview sounds like it could have been pulled directly off this thread.

You know, while I was listening I got annoyed, and with the interviewer too, and then he say 'I've compiled everything...'

Hell, this thread has everything from the beginning, already compiled FOR HIM...But, that's the way certain people operate.

Yeah, a lot of his main points have been made here. Of course, we are getting stuff from other places. It's a group investigation.  But it wouldn't have killed Thorn to give some credit to his sources.

[Ognir]

Just about finished Makufka audio

Anyone with a decent voice could read from this thread, but there are many excellent threads out there

32 pages, ok

[Ognir]

Read between the lines, they're fucked on this one


Sorkin struggling with how to include Sandy Hook shooting in 'The Newsroom'

Aaron Sorkin says he is struggling with how to reference the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in the upcoming second season of "The Newsroom."

"That's a tough thing to write about without minimizing it or exploiting it or just spreading cheese wiz all over it," he admitted during a Q&A session at Sunday night's PaleyFest in Los Angeles.

"Obviously Newtown is something that was an important moment to all of us and the last thing you want to do is handle it poorly."

The HBO series, which received a Golden Globe nomination for Best TV Drama, goes behind the scenes of a fictional 24 hour cable news network, basing each episode's storyline around actual world events.
Aaron Sorkin at PaleyFest

Season two -- which kicks off in June -- begins in the fall of 2011 and was scheduled to end just after the 2012 presidential election.

Sorkin, who has only written the first five episodes so far, agreed it would be almost impossible to not include what moderator Piers Morgan called "the seminal news event of the year."

"I am not a hundred percent sure," he said. "(But) I bet we do."

"You could stop before Sandy Hook. That is the only way you could do it. On the other hand, there are so many land mines to step on. You want to make sure you don't do a disservice to the story that is very important to all of us."

"So at the moment, I am sort of looking down the calendar at Sandy Hook and that is my fear there."


http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/t ... ewyorkpost