Sandy Hook Connecticut state police hold a news conference in Newtown

[FrankDialogue]

CNN is reporting at approximately 9:20am a gunman opened fire inside a Connecticut elementary school.

The official story has numerous inconsistencies.  Don't know if they have the Pizza parlor accurately identified?  If Lanza actually followed a pizza delivery man into the school then that's more than a little strange.  It is very unusual to see pizza delivery that early in the morning.  Most of them open just before lunchtime.  

CSR, I posted the pizza thing as a joke because we still have no credible testimony about what really happened...At Columbine at least we had eye witnesses who saw and identified people...Here, nothing...Nobody saw Adam Lanza.

[FrankDialogue]

Sandy Hook massacre: Official story spins out of control http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/20 ... f-control/

Here's one of the comments I thought was interesting:

Check out Noah Pozner's mom cool as a cucumber, wearing some high beam red lipstick, making false emotional appeals, and dropping a propaganda line about cave-ape Golda Meir (genocidal maniac) being a "statesman". How ...opportunistic

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/22/m ... hpt=ac_bn1


I went to the AC link and could only get through about 39 seconds of it.  Like Robby Parker, she also seems to have a strange way of showing her grief over her dead child.

I posted this info over at John Friend's blog and got this:

"agreed - Noah's mom is strangely calm and collected. She "doesn't know the answer" but obviously points to gun control. Where do they get these actors? Here's a possibility:"

http://crisisactors.org/

Now, I'm really not into the idea that this whole thing was staged and fake. At this point, I still believe a mass murder occurred, but I'm starting to think that at least a few of the parents may be actors.  In order to control the narrative, get as much emotional impact out of the event as possible, and make sure things went in the right direction, maybe the planners of this false flag had to make sure that some of the "parents" were controlled.  I mean, what would the jewish controlled media do if all of the parents of the murdered children were so traumatized and grief-stricken that they refused to talk w/the media?? And what would become of the j-tribe gun-grabbing agenda if some of the parents of the murdered children just happened to be fans of the second amendment and went on camera and demanded that teachers be armed??

Great info in this post...The Pozner woman is quite strange...She looks like she's ready to go shopping and have food and wine at a trendy restaurant.

And the link to 'Crisis Actors': Listen, something is drastically wrong with this country when you have something like 'Crisis Actors', mass murder or no mass murder, hoax or no hoax in Newtown CT...EVERYBODY JUST WANTS TO MAKE A BUCK AND 'GET AHEAD' AND WILL STOP AT NOTHING.

This was a good comment from VT site:

Noelle Buscher · Top Commenter · Elkhorn, Nebraska

"Sandy Hook Elementary - 575 students. Assuming most of them have parents. Oddly, we see only the same few photos from the media  . And what is missing from those photos? Lots of kids and parents. To take that a step further...we are in the age of convenient cameras and vidcameras. Instagram. Twitter. Facebook. WHY are there NO photos from all those parents who should have arrived on the scene with cameras blazing? Nevermind the hundreds of general looky-lous who should have been filtering in and around with cameras."

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

CNN is reporting at approximately 9:20am a gunman opened fire inside a Connecticut elementary school.

The official story has numerous inconsistencies.  Don't know if they have the Pizza parlor accurately identified?  If Lanza actually followed a pizza delivery man into the school then that's more than a little strange.  It is very unusual to see pizza delivery that early in the morning.  Most of them open just before lunchtime.  

CSR, I posted the pizza thing as a joke because we still have no credible testimony about what really happened...At Columbine at least we had eye witnesses who saw and identified people...Here, nothing...Nobody saw Adam Lanza.

Well, Frank I removed the commentary above since it apparently is not relevant if that is not true. I have only followed this from a few sources.. mostly not the TV MSM so I kind of took the above as actual.  I personally think the kid lost it when he learned he was going to get committed to a M.H., the whole thing is extremely sad.

[Krag]

I don't think that insane asylum theory is substantiated.  You have Nancy who is basically a gay divorce' who is supposedly a prepper but that is just bunk since she likes the high life and had just come back from the Mt Washington hotel a ritzy place where they held the Bretton Woods conference.  Alimony was nearly 300K a year plus all kinds of other freebees.

Do we have any substantiation the kid had a meeting at the school the day before?  Law enforcement should have all the facts by now maybe they are banking on lack of interest on all the loose ends in a few weeks when they can better manage them....

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

I don't think that insane asylum theory is substantiated.  You have Nancy who is basically a gay divorce' who is supposedly a prepper but that is just bunk since she likes the high life and had just come back from the Mt Washington hotel a ritzy place where they held the Bretton Woods conference.  Alimony was nearly 300K a year plus all kinds of other freebees.

Do we have any substantiation the kid had a meeting at the school the day before?  Law enforcement should have all the facts by now maybe they are banking on lack of interest on all the loose ends in a few weeks when they can better manage them....

The investigation still has room to play out... I took it that the kid was losing-it and went far beyond normal in his response to his mother's possibly committing him to a M.H. I'll keep mum from this point forward until more details develop.  Since Lanza is dead, there won't be a defensive criminal investigation which this case needs more than anything to keep some objectivity of means and motive. Keep in mind that there are crazy kids who do crazy things... and this Lanza didn't look too "balanced" overall IMHO.  His brother should supply the details that led to this or at least exculpate him if other "agents" were really involved. The police will likely do some "whitewashing" of certain details... but I don't put it past this kid to have a wild murderous idea and to carry it out.  Sadly, the (jew) media and games today are conducive to these kind of venomous "final vents" at the larger society. Jew America is a country "out of touch" with humanity -- and this kid was raised in it. Ultimately, I do blame
"Jew'merica" for this massacre whether directly or indirectly via the mass media channels.  "Jew'merica" is very 'Satanic' in it's perspective on humanity -- and they teach this perspective to all Gentiles of all ages.   That's the way I see it right now.

I'm not far from Kevin MacDonald's take on the sad killings of children in the second hour:

http://thewhitenetwork.com/data/audio/t ... 121217.mp3

[FrankDialogue]

CrackSmokeRepublican wrote
Well, Frank I removed the commentary above since it apparently is not relevant if that is not true. I have only followed this from a few sources.. mostly not the TV MSM so I kind of took the above as actual. I personally think the kid lost it when he learned he was going to get committed to a M.H., the whole thing is extremely sad.

You may be right, but there is just way too much fishy stuff going on here, too much spin, no hard evidence, not even of the children's deaths.

But here is something that should lay doubt to rest: A report from the undertaker, who says he had to hire 25-30 extra people to deal with the bodies: The story was published two days after the event, but I have not seen any follow up...If 25-30 people were hired to help, surely someone has something to say.


Newtown's only undertaker opens up about the 'week from hell'


Daniel Honan, the director of Honan Funeral Home, has never had so much work. He has hired 25 to 30 new staffers to help handle the funerals of the 11 grade-school victims he must soon bury.
By Henrick Karoliszyn , Barry Paddock , Joe Kemp AND Chelsia Rose Marcius / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Sunday, December 16, 2012, 10:08 PM
Updated: Sunday, December 16, 2012, 11:57 PM

Funeral director Daniel Honan of Honan Funeral Home in Newtown, Conn., says his clients are handling the tragedy well, all things considered.

Newtown's only undertaker has never had so much work.

Daniel Honan, the director of Honan Funeral Home on Main St., said he's hired between 25 and 30 new staffers to handle the 11 grade-school victims of Friday's massacre he must bury in the coming days.
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Newtown Connecticut Sandy Hook school shooting victim Catherine V. Hubbard, age 6. via facebook "RIP Catherine V. Hubbard - Sandy Hook Massacre Victim."

Honan, who usually keeps just two others on staff, said the additional workers will help handle what he called "the week from hell."

"I've never seen anything like this, never," Honan said over the weekend. "We added staff to meet the demand and do what we do."


Read more:


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/newtown-undertaker-opens-week-hell-article-1.1221756

[Krag]

The facts are still quite murky.  How does an anorexic kid handle three guns, including an assault weapon, break into the school, through the heavy glass and selectively blow away so many human beings without significant resistance?   Does that kid seriously look like he has Jack the ripper capability?  Killing his mother in cold blood and then continuing his murderous rampage in a grade school, without rhyme or reason?  None of this makes sense....

Plus I would like to see the economic analysis on the fallout from this massacre, who stands to benefit the most?  Victim's families will no doubt be recipients of a huge hush money fund, is this what happened at the Aurora shooting, huge amounts of money doled out to victim families??

[Krag]

There is this interesting active thread at Stormfront:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t934177/

"At 30:20, the police find the suspect's car and calls in the license plate as 872YEO. The report comes back the car is registered to a Chrisopher A Rodia, who is a felon caught stealing copper earlier this year: Duo caught stealing copper from construction site | WTNH.com Connecticut"

Too many questions, too few sites dedicated to asking them....

[Amanda]

there were also local news reports about there being a maroon van w/blown out windows. I haven't been able to track down the original source, but at least found this comment saying the same thing:


"A local CBS affiliate was also reporting the existence of a second gunman and said 'Police believe there may be a second gunman and are looking for a red or maroon van with its back window blown out...'"

http://www.businessinsider.com/who-was- ... er-2012-12

[FrankDialogue]

Now, we have an article from the undertaker.

How about ambulance/EMT teams that went to the school?...I went to the local media 'The Newtown Bee' newspaper thinking I would get some statements of substance from ambulance workers, something like 'Listen, this was bad, real bad...Kids shot in the head, little bodies torn up by bullets...I just hope I can get over this, because this is my job, gotta keep working'.

But what we get is just 'generic reaction'...No details, nothing even remotely like a heartfelt response.

http://newtownbee.com/

What are these people, 'Stepford wives & husbands'?...In fact, the label 'generic' has to be applied to this whole event...I haven't seen any emotion anywhere, from anybody...What's wrong with this picture?  :?:  :?:

Only two possible answers as I see it:

1...These people (Newtown CT) were emotionally dead from jump street, having no reaction to the mass murder of their kids.

2...This thing is a hoax/Hollywood production and/or black op.

The only reaction even close to reality comes from the undertaker, but even he sounds like he's reading from a script.

And who moved the bodies, including Lanza's, out of the school, and where were they taken?...To a hospital?...To a state mortuary?...Nothing on this at all, nada, zilch...

[Krag]

My guess is that all the people in charge, law enforcement, government officials, ministers, psychologists, teachers, etc. are dictating the party line that it is about guns and "mental illness" not failure of government, or a need to provide lots of EVIDENCE so we can believe the bs peddled by government and the media.  Possibly other victims of other mass murders will smell enough of a rat in the official story to come forward with painful questions here.  But my concern is that many of the people in authority who could ask questions, have been bought off or warned that for the greater good we shouldn't rock the boat.

[Krag]

The Newstimes has this version in their paper today, likely a result of generally incompetent and incomplete reporting here to date:

"For much of the past week, their detectives and forensic experts have been reconstructing the crime scene inside the Sandy Hook school trying to pinpoint Lanza's movements and determine when and where he shot each victim.

"Lanza burst into the school by shooting his way through the locked front door. He then used a military-style Bushmaster .223 semiautomatic rifle to murder the principal and school psychologist as they ran to confront him. He walked down the hallway and into two first-grade classrooms, killing six adults and 20 students.
Upon hearing police sirens and officers smashing windows to enter the school, Lanza ducked into another room and committed suicide with one of the two handguns he carried, a source said."


Read more: http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Lea ... z2FtcNws00

[FrankDialogue]

The Newstimes has this version in their paper today, likely a result of generally incompetent and incomplete reporting here to date:

"For much of the past week, their detectives and forensic experts have been reconstructing the crime scene inside the Sandy Hook school trying to pinpoint Lanza's movements and determine when and where he shot each victim.

"Lanza burst into the school by shooting his way through the locked front door. He then used a military-style Bushmaster .223 semiautomatic rifle to murder the principal and school psychologist as they ran to confront him. He walked down the hallway and into two first-grade classrooms, killing six adults and 20 students.
Upon hearing police sirens and officers smashing windows to enter the school, Lanza ducked into another room and committed suicide with one of the two handguns he carried, a source said."


Read more: http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Lea ... z2FtcNws00

Thanks...This version makes some sense.

[Krag]

Has there been any good source on Adam meeting with school admin the day before for whatever reason as has been reported?  There would have to be some connection there for this version to make sense.

[Amanda]

http://www.businessinsider.com/who-was- ... er-2012-12

Two law enforcement sources told CNN that the day before the massacre there was a disagreement at the school between Lanza and two teachers, the school psychologist and the principal, three of whom were killed Friday while one teacher is the massacre's only survivor. The source said the argument had something to do with Lanza trying to enter the school.

[UPDATE 8:47 p.m.] CNN now reports that a law enforcement source says earlier reports about the alleged disagreement have been investigated and are NOT ACCURATE. Connecticut State Police  Lt. J. Paul Vance said he knew of NO REPORTS about Lanza being involved in any altercations at the school.  

[Krag]

It looks like the British and other media are better on this topic than the U.S. lamestream media:


 
"20-year-old Adam Lanza rigged his mother Nancy's Bushmaster .223 calibre rifle, before the Newtown shooting, reports say. Lanza's motives remain unknown; however, it is believed he attended the school as a child, as we previously informed you.

"Lanza opened fire at the local elementary school, killing 20 children and 6 adults. The funerals for the Sandy victims have already begun, and a Facebook page has been created, with the intent of performing 26 Acts of Kindness in their honor.

"Investigators have discovered that the shooter taped two cartridge magazines to his weapon, to make the process of flipping between the two faster.

"The technique, known as "jungle-taping," according to Connecticut medical examiner Wayne Carver, would have allowed him to fire significantly more shots in a small time frame. Police believe the shooting only lasted for 5 minutes, the Telegraph writes.

"Lanza used specific bullets, used in warfare, and referred to by aficionados as "frangible ammunition." They are able to go through deep tissue and shatter on impact. As they cannot be removed, they inflict a large amount of damage.

"Tracing his steps, police came up with a more detailed timeline for Friday's events. He shot his mother while she was in bed, in the head, after grabbing her weapons. He then armed himself with at least 30-bullet magazines, according to the number of bullets fired at the scene.

"Connecticut governor Dannel Malloy tells reporters that he broke into the school by shooting through a locked door and entered at least 2 classrooms. In one of them, all the students lost their lives, before Lanza pointed the gun at himself, as police arrived.

"There were 14 coats hanging there and 14 bodies. He killed them all," a law enforcement officer says.

"The fact that the Sandy Hook shooting was planned could have been concluded from the fact that he deleted his hard drive before leaving home, as our yesterday's report reveals.

"Technicians looking for the gunman's motivation came up empty in their search for browser history records and private conversations. It is believed Lanza may have posted a warning on the 4chan website a few days before, anonymously."
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Adam-Lan ... 5862.shtml


And on the theory of the why there is this:


"Lanza's mental state is vital as to why he may have committed one of the worst mass shootings in American history.
Another working theory is that he was angry that his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility because he was becoming too difficult for her to handle alone.
Given his decision to kill his mother Nancy while she lay sleeping in her bed at their Connecticut home and then drive to his former elementary school to purposefully kill innocent children, there had to be a strong connection in his mind between his anger and the school.
Nancy, 52, was thought to volunteer at Sandy Hook Elementary School, and so the theory extends to the fact that Adam felt he loved those children more than she loved him, since she was planning to send him away."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -page.html

And yet none of the teachers had heard of Nancy....

[Krag]

For those who missed  the TV version, 60 Minutes had a segment tonight on the Newtown/SH massacre:  http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50137227n

The school nurse was interviewed as well as CSI experts.  Not much information in terms of real hard evidence was provided.

[Krag]

And here is an analysis on the coroner's press conference as well as other reports connected to this story:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy- ... on/5316776

Inconsistencies and anomalies abound when one turns an analytical eye to news of the Newtown school massacre

"[My staff] and I hope the people of Newtown don't have it crash on their head later." –Connecticut Medical Examiner D. Wayne Carver II, MD, December 15, 2012

[Amanda]

The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy- ... on/5316776

By Prof. James F. Tracy

Global Research, December 25, 2012


"[My staff] and I hope the people of Newtown don't have it crash on their head later." –Connecticut Medical Examiner D. Wayne Carver II, MD, December 15, 2012
 
Inconsistencies and anomalies abound when one turns an analytical eye to news of the Newtown school massacre. The public's general acceptance of the event's validity and faith in its resolution suggests a deepened credulousness borne from a world where almost all news and information is electronically mediated and controlled. The condition is reinforced through the corporate media's unwillingness to push hard questions vis-à-vis Connecticut and federal authorities who together bottlenecked information while invoking prior restraint through threats of prosecutorial action against journalists and the broader citizenry seeking to interpret the event on social media.
 
Along these lines on December 19 the Connecticut State Police assigned individual personnel to each of the 26 families who lost a loved one at Sandy Hook Elementary. "The families have requested no press interviews," State Police assert on their behalf, "and we are asking that this request be honored.[1] The de facto gag order will be in effect until the investigation concludes—now forecast to be "several months away" even though lone gunman Adam Lanza has been confirmed as the sole culprit.[2]
 
With the exception of an unusual and apparently contrived appearance by Emilie Parker's alleged father, victims' family members have been almost wholly absent from public scrutiny.[3] What can be gleaned from this and similar coverage raises many more questions and glaring inconsistencies than answers. While it sounds like an outrageous claim, one is left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place—at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation's news media have described.


The Accidental Medical Examiner

An especially important yet greatly underreported feature of the Sandy Hook affair is the wholly bizarre performance of Connecticut's top medical examiner H. Wayne Carver II at a December 15 press conference. Carver's unusual remarks and behavior warrant close consideration because in light of his professional notoriety they appear remarkably amateurish and out of character.
 
H. Wayne Carver II has an extremely self-assured, almost swaggering presence in Connecticut state administration. In early 2012 Carver threatened to vacate his position because of state budget cuts and streamlining measures that threatened his professional autonomy over the projects and personnel he oversaw.
 
Along these lines the pathologist has gone to excessive lengths to demonstrate his findings and expert opinion in court proceedings. For example, in a famous criminal case Carver "put a euthanized pig through a wood chipper so jurors could match striations on the bone fragments with the few ounces of evidence that prosecutors said were on the remains of the victim."[4] One would therefore expect Carver to be in his element while identifying and verifying the exact ways in which Sandy Hook's children and teachers met their violent demise.
 
Yet the H. Wayne Carver who showed up to the December 15 press conference is an almost entirely different man, appearing apprehensive and uncertain, as if he is at a significant remove from the postmortem operation he had overseen. The multiple gaffes, discrepancies, and hedges in response to reporters' astute questions suggest that he is either under coercion or an imposter. While the latter sounds untenable it would go a long way in explaining his sub-pedestrian grasp of medical procedures and terminology.


Medical Examiner FULL Press Conference - Sandy Hook School Mass Shooting

[youtube:3nr8h9qm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE0OT5od9DA[/youtube]3nr8h9qm]

With this in mind extended excerpts from this exchange are worthy of recounting here in print. Carver is accompanied by Connecticut State Police Lieutenant H. Paul Vance and additional Connecticut State Police personnel. The reporters are off-screen and thus unidentified so I have assigned them simple numerical identification based on what can be discerned of their voices.
 

Reporter #1: So the rifle was the primary weapon?
 
H. Wayne Carver: Yes.
 
Reporter #1: [Inaudible]
 
Carver: Uh (pause). Question was what caliber were these bullets. And I know—I probably know more about firearms than most pathologists but if I say it in court they yell at me and don't make me answer [sic]—so [nervous laughter]. I'll let the police do that for you.
 
Reporter #2: Doctor can you tell us about the nature of the wounds. Were they at very close range? Were the children shot at from across the room?
 
Carver: Uhm, I only did seven of the autopsies. The victims I had ranged from three to eleven wounds apiece and I only saw two of them with close range shooting. Uh, but that's, uh y'know, a sample. Uh, I really don't have detailed information on the rest of the injuries.
 
[Given that Carver is Connecticut's top coroner and in charge of the entire postmortem this is a startling admission.-JT]
 
Reporter #3: But you said that the long rifle was used?
 
Carver: Yes.
 
Reporter #3: But the long rifle was discovered in the car.
 
State Police Lieutenant Vance: That's not correct, sir.
 
Unidentified reporter #4: How many bullets or bullet fragments did you find in the autopsy. Can you tell us that?
 
Carver: Oh. I'm lucky I can tell you how many I found. I don't know. There were lots of them, OK? This type of weapon is not, uh ... the bullets are designed in such a fashion that the energy—this is very clinical. I shouldn't be saying this. But the energy is deposited in the tissue so the bullet stays in [the tissue].
 
[In fact, the Bushmaster .223 Connecticut police finally claimed was used in the shooting is designed for long range field use and utilizes high velocity bullets averaging 3,000 feet-per-second, the energy of which even at considerable distance would penetrate several bodies before finally coming to rest in tissue.]
 
Reporter #5: How close were the injuries?
 
Carver: Uh, all the ones (pause). I believe say, yes [sic].
 
Reporter #6: In what shape were the bodies when the families were brought to check [inaudible].
 
Carver: Uh, we did not bring the bodies and the families into contact. We took pictures of them, uhm, of their facial features. We have, uh, uh—it's easier on the families when you do that. Un, there is, uh, a time and place for the up close and personal in the grieving process, but to accomplish this we thought it would be best to do it this way and, uh, you can sort of, uh ... You can control a situation depending on the photographer, and I have very good photographers. Uh, but uh—
 
Reporter #7: Do you know the difference of the time of death between the mother in the house and the bodies recovered [in the school].
 
Carver: Uh, no, I don't. Sorry [shakes head excitedly] I don't! [embarrassed laugh]
 
Reporter #8: Did the gunman kill himself with the rifle?
 
Carver: No. I—I don't know yet. I'll-I'll examine him tomorrow morning. But, but I don't think so.
 
[Why has Carver left arguably the most important specimen for last? And why doesn't he think Lanza didn't commit suicide with the rifle?]
 
Reporter #9: In terms of the children, were they all found in one classroom or—
 
Carver: Uhm ... [inaudible] [Turns to Lieutenant Vance] Paul and company will deal with that.
 
Reporter #9: What?
 
Carver: Paul and company will deal with that. Lieutenant Vance is going to handle that one.
 
Reporter #10: Was there any evidence of a struggle? Any bruises?
 
Carver: No.
 
Reporter #11: The nature of the shooting; is there any sense that there was a lot of care taken with precision [inaudible] or randomly?
 
Carver: [Exhales while glancing upward, as if frustrated] Both. It's a very difficult question to answer ... You'd think after thousands of people I've seen shot but I ... It's ... If I attempted to answer it in court there'd be an objection and then they'd win—[nervous laughter].
 
[Who would win? Why does an expert whose routine job as a public employee is to provide impartial medical opinion concerned with winning and losing in court? Further, Carver is not in court but rather at a press conference.]
 
Reporter #12: Doctor, can you discuss the fatal injuries to the adults?
 
Carver: Ah, they were similar to those of the children.
 
Reporter #13: Doctor, the children you had autopsied, where in the bodies were they hit?
 
Carver: Uhm [pause]. All over. All over.
 
Reporter #14: Were [the students] sitting at their desks or were they running away when this happened?
 
Carver: I'll let the guys who—the scene guys talk—address that issue. I, uh, obviously I was at the scene. Obviously I'm very experienced in that. But there are people who are, uh, the number one professionals in that. I'll let them—let that [voice trails off].
 
Reporter [#15]: How many boys and how many girls [were killed]?
 
Carver: [Slowly shaking his head] I don't know.


More Unanswered Questions and Inconsistencies

In addition to Carver's remarks several additional chronological and evidentiary contradictions in the official version of the Sandy Hook shooting are cause for serious consideration and leave doubt in terms of how the event transpired vis-à-vis the way authorities and major media outlets have presented it. It is now well known that early on journalists reported that Adam Lanza's brother Ryan Lanza was reported to be the gunman, and that pistols were used in the shooting rather than a rifle. Yet these are merely the tip of the iceberg.

--When Did the Gunman Arrive?

After Adam Lanza fatally shot and killed his mother at his residence, he drove himself to the elementary school campus, arriving one half hour after classes had commenced. Dressed in black, Lanza proceeds completely unnoticed through an oddly vacant parking lot with a military style rifle and shoots his way through double glass doors and a brand new yet apparently poorly engineered security system.
 
Further, initial press accounts suggest how no school personnel or students heard gunshots and no 911 calls are made until after Lanza begins firing inside the facility. "It was a lovely day," Sandy Hook fourth grade teacher Theodore Varga said. And then, suddenly and unfathomably, gunshots rang out. "I can't even remember how many," Varga said.[5]
 
The recollection contrasts sharply with an updated version of Lanza's arrival where at 9:30AM he walked up to the front entrance and fired at least a half dozen rounds into the glass doors. The thunderous sound of Lanza blowing an opening big enough to walk through the locked school door caused Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Scherlach to bolt from a nearby meeting room to investigate. He shot and killed them both as they ran toward him.
 
Breaching the school's security system in such a way would have likely triggered some automatic alert of school personnel. Further, why would the school's administrators run toward an armed man who has just noisily blasted his way into the building?
 
Two other staff members attending the meeting with Hocksprung and Scherlach sustained injuries "in the hail of bullets" but returned to the aforementioned meeting room and managed a call to 911.[6] This contrasted with earlier reports where the first 911 call claimed students "were trapped in a classroom with the adult shooter who had two guns."[7] Recordings of the first police dispatch following the 911 call at 9:35:50 indicate that someone "thinks there's someone shooting in the building."[8] There is a clear distinction between potentially hearing shots somewhere in the building and being almost mortally caught in a "hail of bullets."

--How did the gunman fire so many shots in such little time?

According to Dr. Carver and State Police, Lanza shot each victim between 3 and 11 times during a 5 to 7 minute span. If one is to average this out to 7 bullets per individual—excluding misses—Lanza shot 182 times, or once every two seconds. Yet according to the official story Lanza was the sole assassin and armed with only one weapon. Thus if misses and changing the gun's 30-shot magazine at least 6 times are added to the equation Lanza must have been averaging about one shot per second—extremely skilled use of a single firearm for a young man with absolutely no military training and who was on the verge of being institutionalized. Still, an accurate rendering of the event is even more difficult to arrive at because the chief medical examiner admittedly has no idea exactly how the children were shot or whether a struggle ensued.

--Where is the Photo and Video Evidence?

Photographic and video evidence is at once profuse yet lacking in terms of its capacity to demonstrate that a mass shooting took place on the scale described by authorities. For example, in an era of ubiquitous video surveillance of public buildings especially no visual evidence of Lanza's violent entry has emerged. And while studio snapshots of the Sandy Hook victims abound there is little if any eyewitness testimony of anyone who's observed the corpses except for Carver and his staff, and they appear almost as confused about the conditions of the deceased as any layperson watching televised coverage of the event. Nor are there any routine eyewitness, photo or video evidence of the crime scene's aftermath—broken glass, blasted security locks and doors, bullet casings and holes, bloodied walls and floors—all of which are common in such investigations and reportage.

--Why Were Medical Personnel Turned Away From the Crime Scene?

Oddly enough medical personnel are forced to set up their operation not at the school where the dead and injured lay, but rather at the fire station several hundred feet away. This flies in the face of standard medical operating procedure where personnel are situated as close to the scene as possible. There is no doubt that the school had ample room to accommodate such personnel. Yet medical responders who rushed to Sandy Hill Elementary upon receiving word of the tragedy were denied entry to the school and forced to set up primary and secondary triages off school grounds and wait for the injured to be brought to them.
 
Shortly after the shooting "as other ambulances from neighboring communities rolled up, sirens blaring, the first responders slowly realized that their training would be tragically underutilized on this horrible day. 'You may not be able to save everybody, but you damn well try,'" 44 year old emergency medical technician James Wolff told NBC News. "'And when (we) didn't have the opportunity to put our skills into action, it's difficult.'"[9]
 
In light of this, who were the qualified medical practitioners pronounced the 20 children and 7 adults dead? Who decided that none could be revived? Carver and his staff are apparently the only medical personnel to have attended to the victims—yet this was in the postmortem conducted several hours later. Such slipshod handling of the crime scene leaves the State of Connecticut open to a potential array of hefty civil claims by families of the slain.

--Did a mass evacuation of the school take place?

Sandy Hook Elementary is attended by 600 students. Yet there is no photographic or video evidence of an evacuation on this scale. Instead, limited video and photographic imagery suggest that a limited evacuation of perhaps at most several dozen students occurred.
 
A highly circulated photo depicts students walking in a single file formation with their hands on each others' shoulders and eyes shut. Yet this was the image of a drill that took place prior to the event itself.[10] Most other photos are portraits of individual children. Despite aerial video footage of the event documenting law enforcement scouring the scene and apprehending one or more suspects in the wooded area nearby the school,[11] there is no such evidence that a mass exodus of children from the school transpired once law enforcement pronounced Sandy Hook secure. Nor are there videos or photos of several hundred students and their parents at the oft-referenced fire station nearby where students were routed for parent pick up.


Sound Bite Prism and the Will to Believe

Outside of a handful of citizen journalists and alternative media commentators Sandy Hill's dramatically shifting factual and circumstantial terrain has escaped serious critique because it is presented through major media's carefully constructed prism of select sound bites alongside a widespread and longstanding cultural impulse to accept the pronouncements of experts, be they bemused physicians, high ranking law enforcement officers, or political leaders demonstrating emotionally-grounded concern.
 
Political scientist W. Lance Bennett calls this the news media's "authority-disorder bias." "Whether the world is returned to a safe, normal place," Bennett writes, "or whether the very idea of a normal world is called into question, the news is preoccupied with order, along with related questions of whether authorities are capable of establishing or restoring it."[12]
 
Despite Carver's bizarre performance and law enforcement authorities' inability to settle on and relay simple facts, media management's impulse to assure audiences and readerships of the Newtown community's inevitable adjustment to its trauma and loss with the aid of the government's protective oversight—however incompetent that may be—far surpasses a willingness to undermine this now almost universal news media narrative with messy questions and suggestions of intrigue. This well-worn script is one the public has been conditioned to accept. If few people relied on such media to develop their world view this would hardly be a concern. Yet this is regrettably not the case.
 
The Sandy Hook tragedy was on a far larger scale than the past year's numerous slaughters, including the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting and the Batman theater shooting in Colorado. It also included glaringly illogical exercises and pronouncements by authorities alongside remarkably unusual evidentiary fissures indistinguishable by an American political imagination cultivated to believe that the corporate, government and military's sophisticated system of organized crime is largely confined to Hollywood-style storylines while really existing malfeasance and crises are without exception returned to normalcy.
 
If recent history is a prelude the likelihood of citizens collectively assessing and questioning Sandy Hook is limited even given the event's overtly superficial trappings. While the incident is ostensibly being handled by Connecticut law enforcement, early reports indicate how federal authorities were on the scene as the 911 call was received. Regardless of where one stands on the Second Amendment and gun control, it is not unreasonable to suggest the Obama administration complicity or direct oversight of an incident that has in very short order sparked a national debate on the very topic—and not coincidentally remains a key piece of Obama's political platform.
 
The move to railroad this program through with the aid of major media and an irrefutable barrage of children's portraits, "heartfelt" platitudes and ostensible tears neutralizes a quest for genuine evidence, reasoned observation and in the case of Newtown honest and responsible law enforcement. Moreover, to suggest that Obama is not capable of deploying such techniques to achieve political ends is to similarly place ones faith in image and interpretation above substance and established fact, the exact inclination that in sum has brought America to such an impasse.
 

Notes (links at http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy- ... on/5316776)
 
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[1] State of Connecticut Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection, "State Police Investigate Newtown School Shooting" [Press Release] December 15, 2012.
 

[2] State of Connecticut Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection, "Update: Newtown School Shooting" [Press Release], December 19, 2012.
 

[3] CNN, "Family of 6 Year Old Victim," December 14, 2012, "Sandy Hook School Shooting Hoax Fraud," Youtube, December 17, 2012.
 

[4] Hartford Courant, "Finally 'Enough' For Chief Medical Examiner" [Editorial], January 30, 2012.
 

[5] John Christofferson and Jocelyn Noveck, "Sandy Hook School Shooting: Adam Lanza Kills 26 and Himself at Connecticut School," Huffington Post, December 15, 2012.
 

[6] Edmund H. Mahoney, Dave Altmari, and Jon Lender, "Sandy Hook Shooter's Pause May Have Aided Escape," Hartford Courant, December 23, 2012.
 

[7] Jaweed Kaleem, "Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting: Newtown Connecticut Students, Administrators Among Victims, Reports Say," Huffington Post, December 14, 2012.
 

[8] RadioMan911TV, "Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Newtown Police / Fire and CT State Police," Youtube, December 14, 2012. At several points in this recording audio is scrambled, particularly following apprehension of a second shooting suspect outside the school, suggesting a purposeful attempt to withhold vital information.
 

[9] Miranda Leitsinger, "You Feel Helpless: First Responders Rushed to School After Shooting, Only to Wait," US News on NBC, December 20.
 

[10] http://thenetng.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... School-600×400.jpg
 

[11] Rob Dew, "Evidence of 2nd and 3rd Shooter at Sandy Hook," Infowars Nightly News, December 18, 2012,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nCFHImNeRw. A more detailed yet less polished analysis was developed by citizen journalist Idahopicker, "Sandy Hook Elem: 3 Shooters," December 16, 2012. See also James F. Tracy, "Analyzing the Newtown Narrative: Sandy Hook's Disappearing Shooter Suspects," Memoryholeblog.com, December 20, 2012.
 

[12] W. Lance Bennett, News: The Politics of Illusion 9th Edition, Boston: Longman, 2012, 47.
 
Andrew Whooley provided suggestions and research for this article.

[Amanda]

interesting info about the car found at the scene that was supposedly Nancy Lanza's:

SANDY HOOK ADAM LANZA INNOCENT - CAR REGISTERED TO CHRISTOPHER

And lots more on this here:  <!-- m -->http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/12 ... f-norwalk/<!-- m -->

I'm bringing most of it over here, but people should really go to the link above for more links and graphic of google earth photo of Rodia's home in Norwalk CT


Sandy Hook Shooting:Suspect Car Linked to Christopher A Rodia and Drug Family of Norwalk

Posted on December 23, 2012 by willyloman


by Scott Creighton (H/T curious canadian)

UPDATE: I wish to make this perfectly clear in response to a comment on the ATS thread: I have not said that Chris Rodia killed anyone. What I have said is it looks like this was his car at the scene of a mass casualty event apparently with weapons in the trunk. If accurate, this information is clearly understood by the police command structure in the area and is being suppressed for some reason.

If you look at the pattern of all of the staged FBI foiled terrorist plots, they always involve a confidential informant who handles the patsies right up til the event. Those CIs are almost always in trouble with the law, charismatic people who can manipulate weaker people.

This certainly fits that bill. Whether or not Chris was the shooter is impossible to determine based on the information we have.

But what can be determined is the fact that the developments in this case (big H/T to those at ATS and GLP) seem to follow an established pattern.

Perhaps someone should contact that man who stated he saw a guy in handcuffs in the back of the police car who had been led out of the woods and show him a picture of Christopher Rodia. That might put him at the scene. But again putting him at the scene  doesn't him the shooter. Nor does putting his car there. His task may have been to get the patsy there to be set up for an arrest without having been told the event was going to go live. Who knows. All I am saying is, it looks like that car does not belong to Adam's mother and the fact that it belongs to a guy who appears to be getting special treatment from the judicial process is very suspicious to me.

UPDATE: A reader, mangrove, found this view on Bing's earth view thingy. Seems like it could easily be the same car. I know there had been some question if the Google Earth app had the right home picked out. Seems like the same one posted on Bing.

(google earth image)

UPDATE: Not completely telling, but when pulling up the 19 Vollmer Ave. address associated with Christopher Rodia on Google Earth, you see what appears to be a black car, similar in shape to the Honda found with the gun in the trunk.......

UPDATE: The mayor of Norwalk Connecticut, the city where Christopher Rodia seems to be getting a "get out of jail free" card, is Richard Moccia who is a member of Bloomberg's "Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition"


"Mayor Moccia is a member of the Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition an organization formed in 2006 and co-chaired by New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg and Boston mayor Thomas Menino."

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Suspect's car registered to a Chris Rodia who's family deals drugs in Norwalk and who is currently facing 7 felony charges including two narcotics charges himself. And Lt. Vance doesn't mention anything about it?

Is this the missing motive of the Sandy Hook shooting?

Over at Above Top Secret, their "Who is Christopher A. Rodia" [edit: thread started by Ladyk74 ] thread is hopping. It all seems to stem from a video of the "unedited" version of the Newtown Police and Fire Radio Traffic from the day of the shooting. The video was posted on Dec. 14th 2012 by Radioman911TV. He has posted 3 videos total, all in the past month.

At the 30:11 mark of the video in question, you can hear someone reading the license plate of the suspect's vehicle: "872 YEO possible suspect vehicle". 20 seconds later the answer comes back "operator Rodia, R..O..D..I..A , Christopher A. (scrambled) 26th, 69"

The audio is heavily scrambled during that part of the recording but you can make out Christopher Rodia's name and what appears to be part of his birth date.

This is very interesting because if that audio file is indeed unedited, then that is the black car they claimed was the suspect's vehicle and the same car they showed a video of someone pulling a long gun out of the trunk later that evening.

(photo of Honda w/ CT 872 YEO)

Police Find Long Gun In Trunk Of Car In Sandy Hook Parking Lot: Newtown Connecticut School Shooting

[youtube:1yhpo6fn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLrxSgkqJQc[/youtube]1yhpo6fn]

description w/video:

Published on Dec 14, 2012


Maybe there was two long guns in the trunk, and this only shows them removing the second one.
Aerial of police finding a loaded long gun in the trunk of a car in the school parking lot appears to be a shotgun. This occurred hours after law enforcement sources already confirmed that they found a Bushmaster AR-15 in his trunk. .223 shells were found at the scene. Who was shooting the .223 inside the school then? From the NBC News Connecticut live feed on 12/14/12.

"A Sig Sauer handgun and a Glock handgun were used in the slaying and .223 shell casings -- a round used in a semi-automatic military style rifle -- were also found at the scene. "

"...However, federal authorities cannot confirm that the handguns or the rifle were the weapons receovered at the school. "
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"A law enforcement source told CBS News' Pat Milton that casings (spent shells) from a .223 semi automatic rifle were found inside the school."
<!-- m -->http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-575 ... chool-ma..<!-- m -->.
 

So who is Christopher A. Rodia? Well, the good folks over at ATS found some interesting info on the guy. Turns out he's a low-life career criminal with at a drug possession charge back in January and a forgery charge pending from Dec. 2011 who was recently busted stealing copper out of new home construction sites while carrying some narcotics on his person. He was busted with a 19 year old girl. Lovely guy huh?


The man, Christopher Rodia, 42, was charged with 3rd degree larceny, conspiracy to commit larceny, criminal mischief, possession of narcotics and failure to carry prescription drugs in a prescribed container.

The woman, Cassandre Scire, 19, was charged with 3rd degree larceny, conspiracy to commit larceny and criminal trespass.

Each is being held on a $2,500 bond and their court date is set for August 7th, 2012." News 8

But check this out... he was facing 7 felony charges including two narcotics charges, and he was apparently released from custody just a few months ago on his own "promise to appear" (?) Really?

(graphic of pending case details)

It gets worse though. Chris Rodia has a construction contractor (carpentry and roofing) brother Dennis who just recently died and his mother's name is Lilli Rodia.


"Survivors in addition to his mother (Lilli) include a long-time friend ,Donnella Bryan; a step-mother, Diane Rodia of Norwalk; two sisters and their husbands, Michele & Todd Turner of Norwalk and Mary & Matthew Pisani of North Haven; a brother Chris Rodia of Norwalk;" The Hour

Notice that his brother was a roofer and the crime Chris Rodia was charged with was stealing copper roofing off of a construction site. Coincidence? No.


"A Norwalk man and woman were caught in the act Saturday night of stealing copper gutters from a house under construction on Stony Brook Road, police said." Westport News

His brother and his mother have a long history of narcotics trafficking in the area. In fact, his brother was arrested with heroin and cash back in Feb and then Dennis and dear old mommy were arrested in March for trafficking drugs not a month later.


"According to police, when the officer approached the car he noticed a six-pack of unopened beer, and large sums of money scattered on the back seat. Upon further inspection, police say, there was also a roll of money on the center console of the car and Rodia was leaning over, seemingly, in an attempt to hide something. The amount of cash discovered in the vehicle was not given.

Police say, the car was searched and both men were arrested after finding two silver cans containing a total of 40 bags of heroine, 21 Oxycodone pills, 40 pills derivative of Oxycodone in a prescription bottle in neither persons name, and drug paraphernalia." Norwalk Patch Feb. 17th

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"Dennis Rodia, 44, and his mother Lilli Rodia, 67, of 1 Gregory Blvd., Norwalk, were charged with possession of narcotics, possession of narcotics with intent to sell, illegal possession of narcotics within 1,500 feet of a school and possession of narcotics with intent to sell within 1,500 feet of a school.

The two are being held in lieu of $100,000 bond. If they are not released will be arraigned at state Superior Court in Norwalk Thursday." The Stamford Advocate

Here's the court docket for his mother:
(graphic listing felonies)


There are so many questions here it's hard to put them all together:
1.How did a career criminal facing 7 felonies get to walk out of court with a "promise to appear"?
2.How did Dennis get back on the streets of Norwalk in less than a month after being busted with 41 bags of smack and all kinds of Oxycontin?
3.How is this guy's car found at the scene supposedly with a shotgun or rifle in it and it isn't even mentioned by the local cops or the media at large?
4.Was Chris Rodia the guy found hiding in the woods because he was fucked up and stayed too long and the police cars were all around his escape vehicle?

There are a lot of questions to be answered here but as we have seen before, Lt. Vance doesn't appear to be the one to ask: in the video below, Lt. Vance is asked a question about whether or not Adam Lanza's mother actually worked at the school and he inexplicably starts to answer a question about the guy they may or may not have arrested in the woods behind the school. Does it sound like Lt. Vance is running on a tight script?

Bizarre Glitch During Q&A At The 8am Press Conference (12/15) :Newtown Connecticut

[youtube:1yhpo6fn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qid9sE51d1k[/youtube]1yhpo6fn]

description of video:

Published on Dec 15, 2012


I noticed this in the ABCNews.com version of the 8am press conference of 12/15. The reporter asks if the mother has any connection to the school, and seems to give a pre planned answer about the guy they found in the woods fitting the description of the shooter that was arrested and detained. He is indirectly claiming that he was cutting wood out there and that's why he was there. Did he live around there? Was he on his own property when they apprehended the suspected accomplice?

The glitch occurs around 10:52 into the ABC News version of the 8am press conference.
Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting: Shooter Forced Way Into School
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[Amanda]

This is from the woman who runs this site: <!-- m -->http://www.sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com<!-- m -->

In this video, the reporter tells us that she spoke w/the school nurse and that the school nurse reported that Nancy Lanza was a great kindergarten teacher--so who is doing the lying? the reporter? the nurse? did somebody forget their lines or lose the script??


Sandy Hook Media Lie: Reporter: "School Nurse said, Lanza Great Kindegarten

video description:

Published on Dec 23, 2012


People wonder why people are questioning the whole Sandy Hook shooting?! Well here ya go...

Absolute Proof of lying, not just by a reporter but this was by a Sandy Hook school nurse who supposedly worked at the school.

The reporter said the gunman had walked into the nurse's office but did not shoot her.

The reporter said she asked the nurse if she knew Nancy Lanza.

The nurse said YES, she was a great kindergarten teacher at the school!!!

WOW we know that is a absolute Lie! So who was this nurse that survived? Did the reporter make that up?

This is the type of media we have? Did the reporter lie on purpose? Was there even a nurse that she spoke with? If there was a nurse.... was that nurse not up to date on how they were going to tell the story?

There are lies piled on top of lies and mis information with the Sandy Hook shooting. If people would be willing to just look into it just a little bit, they would find this is another 9/11.

It is about taking our few liberties and rights away that our constiution had given us, once upon a time.

I have written about the Sandy Hook not adding up a few times. I have videos and the police audio with someone saying "End the Life of Adam" on it. All the things do not add up in what the government and the media have said about the shooting.

Og edit 20-04-2015
fixed youtube link

[Christopher Marlowe]

speaking of the nurse, the good folks over at the septemberclues forum have already noticed that nurse Sally Cox doesn't show up as a licensed nurse on the Connecticut license lookup:
https://www.elicense.ct.gov/Lookup/LicenseLookup.aspx

Maybe they're spelling it wrong.  

[Amanda]

CM- interesting info on the nurse. I tried to look up Gene Rosen, supposedly a psychologist, who we are told rescued some kids from Victoria Sota's class (the teacher w/the RIP Facebook page created on Dec. 10) and was unable to find anything. It could be b/c he's retired. I'm still looking into his background and will post more on him later.

Also, here's another video that includes some of the video from the one posted above created by SherryQuestionsAll, as well as additional footage of this woman, Sally Cox, who we are told was the school nurse. Now in this footage, she makes no claims about Nancy Lanza being a kindergarten teacher:

Nurse Sally Cox of the Sandy Hook Actors

[youtube:2b98z5ts]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCirUV519Rs[/youtube]2b98z5ts]

some of the comments are interesting. I thought this one was kind of good, though I'm still not sure what to think about the victims:

Stephanopoulos is also an prostituted actor. He knows this is scripted and that he is interviewing the other actor. This is what Weapons of Mass Deception look like. They load them withe fake REPORTS and fire them all simultaneously. Hard to put up a defence against that. But everything in this media operation is scripted and faked, including the victims

And what's still really strange to me is how this Sally Cox woman says she was told by police to close her eyes when they led her out of the school. Other supposed witnesses/people at the school also said the same thing about being instructed by police to close their eyes.  At first I thought this was to keep them from being traumatized by what they would see (blood? bodies?). But then this didn't seem to make sense when I heard that all of the shooting was basically contained to two classrooms (it might help if there was a map w/the layout of the school and the specific classrooms, etc).  I'm still not sure why they were told to close their eyes, but I'm starting to wonder if this was just kind of to tighten up lose ends in the narrative---that way, nobody would have to answer questions about what they saw and the planners/scripters of this event would have less gaping holes to try to cover over??? this whole thing is really getting stranger by the day...

[Amanda]

Okay, so I was thinking that it would be great if some sort of independent citizen journalist/activist in the area could go to Newtown/Sandy Hook and start asking some questions.  But looks like that could get you into trouble:

CT State Police's Chilling Warning Not To Contact Any Witnesses, Or Claim Involvement in the crime

video description:

Published on Dec 22, 2012
Not sure what to think of this just yet. What would they consider "making claims that would hinder the investigation" or "accusing them of being involved in some way"? And they said it includes, but it not even limited to those two actions. This is very vague and hard to understand decree. It seems to be a little anti American and doesn't really take into account free speech imo.

If there was a cover up, we would be seeing exactly the same moves and type of shady reaction we have been seeing out of law enforcement involved with this case.

Came across it looking on the Connecticut State Police website while I was looking there for the update Lt. Vance promised us he'd be providing. Apparently, they aren't releasing anything short of a full report, which will take months.

Here's the CT website:  <!-- m -->http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=515570&A=4226<!-- m -->

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
December 16, 2012   


** UPDATE **

NEWTOWN SCHOOL SHOOTING INVESTIGATION CONTINUES

   The Office of The Chief State's Medical Examiner completed the post mortem examination of the last two deceased in the Newtown school shooting incident.

   The female found deceased at the secondary scene located at 36 Yogananda Street in Newtown, CT, has been positively identified as NANCY LANZA DOB: 9/6/60.  Her cause of death is multiple gunshot wounds and the death has been ruled a homicide.

   The male subject identified as the shooter at Sandy Hook Elementary School has been identified as ADAM LANZA DOB: 04/22/92; he resided at 36 Yogananda Street.  His cause of death was gunshot wound and his death is ruled a suicide.

   Additionally, "anyone who harasses or threatens the victims, victims' families or witnesses of these horrific crimes, or who, in any manner interferes with the ongoing state or federal investigations will be referred for state and/or federal prosecution to the fullest extent permitted by law.  Harassment not only includes in-person contact, but also contact via the internet, social media, and telephone." Social media includes, but is not limited to, Facebook, Blogs, YouTube, Twitter, Pinterest, and MySpace.  Harassment or interfering includes, but is not limited to, making claims of your involvement in the crime or making claims that hinder the advancement of the investigation.

So, I can kind of understand them not wanting you to contact the families of the alleged victims, but it sounds like you're not even allowed to contact and ask any questions of witnesses b/c that could be construed as "harassment."

[Krag]

"Further, initial press accounts suggest how no school personnel or students heard gunshots and no 911 calls are made until after Lanza begins firing inside the facility. "It was a lovely day," Sandy Hook fourth grade teacher Theodore Varga said. And then, suddenly and unfathomably, gunshots rang out. "I can't even remember how many," Varga said.[5]

"The recollection contrasts sharply with an updated version of Lanza's arrival where at 9:30AM he walked up to the front entrance and fired at least a half dozen rounds into the glass doors. The thunderous sound of Lanza blowing an opening big enough to walk through the locked school door caused Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Scherlach to bolt from a nearby meeting room to investigate. He shot and killed them both as they ran toward him.

"Breaching the school's security system in such a way would have likely triggered some automatic alert of school personnel. Further, why would the school's administrators run toward an armed man who has just noisily blasted his way into the building?

"Two other staff members attending the meeting with Hocksprung and Scherlach sustained injuries "in the hail of bullets" but returned to the aforementioned meeting room and managed a call to 911.[6] This contrasted with earlier reports where the first 911 call claimed students "were trapped in a classroom with the adult shooter who had two guns."[7] Recordings of the first police dispatch following the 911 call at 9:35:50 indicate that someone "thinks there's someone shooting in the building."[8] There is a clear distinction between potentially hearing shots somewhere in the building and being almost mortally caught in a "hail of bullets."

"--How did the gunman fire so many shots in such little time?

"According to Dr. Carver and State Police, Lanza shot each victim between 3 and 11 times during a 5 to 7 minute span. If one is to average this out to 7 bullets per individual—excluding misses—Lanza shot 182 times, or once every two seconds. Yet according to the official story Lanza was the sole assassin and armed with only one weapon. Thus if misses and changing the gun's 30-shot magazine at least 6 times are added to the equation Lanza must have been averaging about one shot per second—extremely skilled use of a single firearm for a young man with absolutely no military training and who was on the verge of being institutionalized. Still, an accurate rendering of the event is even more difficult to arrive at because the chief medical examiner admittedly has no idea exactly how the children were shot or whether a struggle ensued."

Either the investigation has been full of errors and incompetence from the get-go, or there is a lot of intentional obfuscation.  

[Christopher Marlowe]

Okay, the nurse apparently doesn't have a license. Neither does the psychologist who let the 6 mystery kids come into his house after the holocaust in Newton. I decided to check on some other licenses.  All of them are 2011 or later:
Mary Sherlach - (Psychologist) No License!

Dawn Hochsprung - Principal; Professional Educator; Valid from 6/30/2012 to 6/29/2017

Lauren Rousseau - Initial Educator; Valid from 12/21/2011 to 12/20/2014

Victoria Soto - Initial Educator; Valid from 2/21/2011 to 8/31/2013

And last but not least:

Anne Marie Murphy - Initial Educator (Cert Type) Valid from 12/22/2012[!!!] to 12/21/2015

Wasn't it nice of Connecticut to give Ms Murphy a teaching license post mortem?

And Dawn Hochsprung does not appear to have had a teaching license prior to 2012, but they let her become a principal!  Just in case you are wondering, I checked to see if the licensing only goes back to 2011. It goes back much farther than that. The online licensing system includes all kinds of teachers, including expired licenses.  I looked up "Mary Smith", just to get a random sample. There were a few Mary Smiths who were licensed in 2012, but the overwhelming majority were not. One, (number 17 on the second page) was licensed in 1980.

I am beginning to think that there was no shooting, and that these are all fictional persons. The crime scene is in lock down indefinitely; each of the "victim's families" are under a sheriff escort;  and it is ILLEGAL to make inquiries or post information from personal experience.

Everything is shaping up as though it was a complete fiction.  The simplest sort of investigation would reveal a fraud, and so it is illegal to make the simplest sort of investigation. This reminds me of the laws against holohoax denial in Europe and Canada.

[Amanda]

Wow, CM, great info!! This is getting stranger by the minute! It's looking more and more like a complete fraud! And how strange is it that each victim has been assigned a sheriff escort--kind of like a personal "minder" like they have in North Korea. And the info about the crime scene being locked down indefinitely is also kind of strange. Since I found the info out about the black honda belonging to a drug dealer, I've been wondering whether Nancy Lanza's car is still in her garage....


Okay, here are some videos on this Gene Rosen character. Now supposedly he's some sort of retired psychologist, but he has no license. I've also seen posted (but haven't been able to verify) that a site called intellius.com has him somehow connected w/Screen Actors Guild (?) This site also reports that he's a retired psychologist who now has his own pet sitting business (?) <!-- m -->http://genespetservice.com/pages/about.html<!-- m -->

Anyway, for those not familiar w/his story, he's basically saying that he saw a bunch of kids at the foot of his driveway, thought they were maybe doing a "skit" or something, and saw an adult male (bus driver?? but later he seems to suggest the bus driver was a woman?) who was talking loudly to them, saying something like "it's going to be alright, it's going to be alright".  Rosen says he approached them and a "she" told him there had been an incident.  Rosen then invited them to his home, got them some stuffed animals and juice and waited for them to tell him the story.

Now,  right away, this  makes no sense. First of all, if you were the bus driver in this scenario and you were w/a bunch of little kids fleeing from a mass shooting, would you really just park yourself at the end of someone's driveway and just kind of wait there?? Wouldn't most adults in that situation have been knocking on neighbor's doors, trying to tell them that there had been a mass shooting at the school, asking to be let in (after all, a crazed gunman could be on the loose), and telling them to call the police?? (Also, the other strange thing is that some are saying that Rosen's house was right next to the fire station, so why didn't they stop there???)

Now if I was in the position of this Gene Rosen character and I found a bunch of kids and an adult at the end of my driveway, I would have approached them and immediately addressed the adult and asked him/her what was going on (I would have wanted to get the facts on the situation right away--there's no way I would have waited for the kids to slowly tell me what happened after I got them some juice and stuffed animals). Upon hearing that there was a mass shooting at the school, I would have told them (kids AND adult/adults) to come into the house and I would have called the police. And when talking to the police, I would have been sure to give them the names of the kids who were w/me, so the authorities would have known who was safe and accounted for.

Anyway, there's plenty more to Gene Rosen's story that doesn't make sense.  Plus the story keeps changing. The videos are below for all to view and come to their own conclusions.

This first one is really bizarre IMO:

Gene Rosen, Academy Award Nominee
[youtube:1bik03ep]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oThDW8LzhdA[/youtube]1bik03ep]


Gene Rosen, The Black Honda With Broken Out Window, And The Casualty List that Didn't Exist Yet

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Published on Dec 22, 2012

Why is this guy saying he looked at the casualty list at 6:00pm on the day of the incident? Is that his vehicle? A black Honda? Why is the window broken out on it?

What Happened To The Sandy Hook Bus Driver? Why Did They Leave 6 Kids With a Stranger

Now in this one, he seems to say that the kids called their parents from his house, but I'm pretty sure that's not what he said in the video above (in that one he seemed to suggest that it was the bus driver or the bus company that had the contact info for the parents)

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Published on Dec 22, 2012

Now Gene Rosen has this story about a bus driver in the mix. Why the bus driver didn't take the kids to a secure location, and instead thought it was OK to just drop them off at Gene Rosen's house for a few hours is unknown. Why wasn't the bus driver the one to call the parents? Is it normal for a bus driver to bring kids to a neighbor's house and apparently drop them off there alone?

Sandy Hook Eyewitness, kids said there was a big gun and a little gun.
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Gene Rosen's Story Isn't Matching Up With The Hartford Courant's About Victoria Sota's Class
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Published on Dec 22, 2012
Mrs. Soto bravely hid her students in a closet and told the gunman, when he came in, that her students were in the auditorium on the other end of the school. At that point, 6 students ran out and were fatally wounded, along with their teacher. 7 students remained in the closet and were "rescued" by police. This is what the CT Courant and others are reporting.

Mr. Rosen is claiming that he distinctly remembers the kids specifically claimed they were in Mrs. Soto's class and they said that she was dead, among other unknown details about the crime he hasn't disclosed to the public about his lengthy "debriefing" he had with them. He says that a woman that identified herself as a bus driver (with no bus though apparently) dropped off the 6 kids (6 kids reportedly died in Mrs. Soto's class and 7 were found in the closet alive by police) from Mrs. Soto's class at his doorstep at which point he fed them drinks and they calmed down. He told the news that he had the kids in there for hours.

These two stories are clearly conflicting.

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[Amanda]

Here's another video on Gene Rosen. This one also calls into question his claim of being a psychologist, as he reportedly attended college for only 2 years, but you need a doctorate to be a psychologist and that requires 4-7 years of graduate school

Sandy Hook Crisis Actors Or Just LIARS ?
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Published on Dec 23, 2012

B.S. Alert !!! I will have a follow up video on this guy in coming days. The bull crap is getting VERY DEEP! Too many things are not adding up!

[Krag]

Another question--the money equation.  What were the top salaries of the teachers and administrators at the school and what are the likely civil lawsuit payouts in situations like this?  I worked for a couple of years in the Stamford, CT school system basically being paid pissant wages of $90 a day with an excellent 4 year college degree, when I complained about a lack of feedback and long term assignments they pulled me from the system.  My understanding was that anyone with a masters or PhD who has been in the system long enough would get 100K or more.

What are the likely payouts to victims in civil lawsuits in situations like this?

[Krag]

I liked Professor Tracy's conclusion in his previous article on this event:  

"Behind the meticulously crafted façade a deep vagueness and sorrow remains that cannot be wholly explained away by the made-for-television storyline of an awkward and lagging young man who inexplicably murders his mother, destroys his computer hard drive, gains access to a supposedly high security facility and proficiently executes 26 individuals within minutes. Yet only in an age of almost universal deceit is the public asked to accept such without further inquiry and comment. All the while amidst mass grieving political leaders and public figures showboat their legislative priorities. It is difficult to imagine a more profound marker of an utterly decrepit politics and civil society than the shallow and unquestioning media that churns out a monochromatic worldview while giving adherents the insidious impression of being informed."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-newtow ... an/5316313