The Prophecy of St Malachy: An In-Depth Analysis

[Christopher Marlowe]

Around the time when Pope Benedict XVI resigned, there was a lot of talk on the web about the prophecy of the popes that has been attributed to St Malachy. I found that a lot of the discussion was lacking in any intellectual rigor, reflecting the 'cut and paste' mentality that predominates the web.  I had some very important projects that kept me from writing on this subject when it was more current, but I thought I might tackle it now that I find myself with a little free time. 

I have found that the main key to interpreting the prophecy of St Malachy is the Bible. I am not the least bit fluent in Latin, but I found the interpretation to many of the prophecies by merely entering St Malachy's two word Latin phrases into a search engine of the Latin Vulgate Bible.
http://drbo.org/lvb/index.htm

My research has led me to believe that the prophecy of St Malachy is genuine, and that it is pointing the errors promulgated during the second Vatican Council. As you will see, the prophecy points to both earthly/historical matters, and also to spiritual/ecclesial ones. I have learned that the warnings alluded to by the Malachy prophecy point to the book of the Apocalypse, and to the warnings give by the Blessed Mother at Fatima. 

If you are looking for a short-hand answer to the long-winded blog post that follows, it is this: Turn away from sin and do penance; pray the rosary; and pray especially for the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

The Prophecy
St Malachy (1094-1148) was an Archbishop of Armagh, which is in Northern Ireland, and I'm sure is much nicer than it sounds. (The guidebook says, "Lovely place"..."Not much to see". And of course St Malchy lived way back before Northern Ireland was "Northern Ireland", and before the "troubles", and before you had to pay money to tour a castle.)

So the story goes that St Malachy went to see Pope Innocent II in 1139, and during that visit he had a prophetic vision of the future popes. Each of the next popes was identified by a short phrase, and all of this was recorded in Latin.  For example, the next pope was identified by the phrase: "Ex castro Tyberis" which means "from a castle on the Tiber". (I only have a very rudimentary understanding of Latin, and so I am dependent upon Google Translate, or previous translations of these phrases.) The next pope, Celestine II, was born in Citt‡ di Castello, which is on the Tiber river.

And then the list was lost and forgotten. Some people don't believe that the list is legitimate, and this is probably the number one reason. You have a prophecy that predicts more than 100 popes, and you lost it?  If you really had such a list, wouldn't you frame it and keep it on the wall by the refrigerator? That way you could remember to take the recycling out on Wednesday, and also that the next pope is going to be from a castle on the Tiber.  But somehow, this very important list was forgotten.  I suppose this could happen. Say there was a really long reign, and they needed that space by the papal refrigerator for pictures of nieces and nephews. For example, Alexander III was number 9 on the list, and was pope from 1159 to 1181.  ('Ex ansere custode' means 'from the goose guardian'; His family crest had goose on it.)  That's 22 years, so he would have had a lot of pictures of the nieces and nephews in that time. Maybe after 16 years he got some graduation photos in the mail, and he was looking at the framed list of popes, and thought, "Hey man, do I really need to look at this list every day so that I know the next pope is going to be 'Lux in ostio'?" ('light at the door'; Lucius III (1181-1185) was Cardinal Bishop of Ostia. Lux may also be a wordplay on Lucius) "Let's just take this list and hang it up in the Vatican library, capice?"

The list was lost and forgotten until around 1590, when Arnold de Wyon, a Benedictine historian, wrote about the list in his book Lignum Vitae.  So regardless of whether one believes the list to be the work of St Malachy or a counterfeit by the Jesuits or the Armagh travel bureau, the list has been in existence for over 400 years. 

The Last Popes
I am Catholic so I won't pretend to be unbiased in my analysis, but also I should not assume that people have the same knowledge about the Catholic Faith that I have. It is the teaching of the Church that Jesus established one Church for all time, and that this Church was founded upon the first Pope, St Peter. (See Mt 16:18 - "And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.") This fact becomes very important as we approach the end of the list. The sequence of thought flows something like this:

1. The Church was established for all time.
2. The Church was founded upon St. Peter.
3. There has been an unbroken line from St. Peter until now.
4. Therefore, when the line of popes ends, so will the Church end.
5. If the Church was for all time, when the Church ends, then time will end.
6. When time ends, then Jesus will come back.
7. I better stop getting drunk and yelling at people.

Or something like that. The basic idea is that when the list of popes ends, then humanity is in the "Last Days": the days when the daily newspaper will be confused for the Book of Apocalypse; the days when the Jehovah's Witnesses start looking really smug all of the time.  Of course, this assumes that the list is a complete list of all the popes until the end, and that St. Malachy didn't just stop writing down Latin phrases because he was bored. 

Assuming the list was complete: it consisted of around 109 phrases that would reference all of the popes until the end of time; the list has been known about since around 1590, when there were still about 30 popes left to go.  I remember back around 20 years ago, before the internet was the central source of information, my cousin told me that there was a list of popes and that there was only one pope left. The accuracy of this statement would depend upon how one interprets that last phrases on the list.  But before I get to the end, I will start examining the list with the phrase that lines up with Pius XII.

Pius XII
Another bit of information that non-Catholics might not be aware of, is that there was a Council of Bishops that met from 1962 until 1965. It was called the "Second Vatican Council", or Vatican II for short. This is a very important council in the history of the Catholic Church, because many traditional Catholics will say that this is when everything started to go really, really wrong. Before Vatican II, all of the Masses and rites were said in Latin, the architecture and artwork were beautiful, and there was more solemn music, like Gregorian Chant. After Vatican II, the Masses were said in English, the Churches uses modern designs and the music was more of a popular style.

I could go on for pages about what changed in Vatican II, but many traditionalists see the pederasty scandal, the priest shortage, the nun shortage, the drop-off in Mass attendance, and all the other problems facing the Church as the fruits of the wicked Vatican II council. Of course, the defenders of the Council will say, "post hoc ergo propter hoc", which refers to the logical fallacy that, just because a result happens after an event, this does not prove causation. I am a traditionalist, and find it interesting that, because of Vatican II, this is probably the only Latin phrase this defender knows. Because of Vatican II, hardly any one in the Church knows Latin, so even the priests can't read the official documents of the Church without a translation.  But I digress...

The Prophecy
Eugenio Pacelli, Venerable Pius XII was pope from 1939 to 1958.  Pius XII was number 106 on the list and was identified as "Pastor Angelicus" - "Angelic Shepherd".

One of the problems that I found in the analysis of this list is that people tend to use just about any circumstance to validate the application of the Latin phrase to a given pope. One poster criticized this sloppy treatment:

I _m all for the  _pure BS _ school on this one. With the intriguing exception, likely a coincidence, of John Paul II, correlating the pope with the phrase is absolutely ridiculous. -- _Look, he has to be  _flowers of flowers, _ he put flowers on his crest! _... like a whopping portion of other popes.

-- _Shepherd and Mariner! Dude the guy was a bishop and they called him a shepherd... how uncanny is that!!! _
--As if every other pope in history since Peter wasn _t a shepherd!
-- _Yeah, but they also said he _d be a Mariner! _
--Pope Ken Grifffey, Jr.? Come on, he was a Cardinal and a Padre, but not a Mariner.
-- _Dude, he was like from Venice. That _s a maritime city? _
--...in a country where you can _t go more than 100 miles from the shore...

The general complaint is that, either: the fulfillment of the prophecy is much too loose, and could also be applied to many other people; or the circumstances that created the fulfillment were within the powers of the prophesied pope to fulfill.  For example, "pastor et nauta", "shepherd and sailor" was applied to the reign of John XXIII. During the conclave that elected John XIII, there was a joke that Cardinal Spellman was so desperate to become pope that he hired a boat, filled it with sheep, and sailed up and down the river Tiber.  The point is that, if anyone can fulfill the prophecy, then it isn't much of a prophecy.

Instead I will try to justify the application of the prophecy to this Pope at this time.  Angelic Shepherd would probably apply to many good clergymen. If a person is a very good and holy person, then most people would agree that "Angelic" is an appropriate description. And of course, shepherd is the term that is used to all clergy: they lead the flock of believers along the right paths.  This analysis is not helpful to show why Pius XII would have fulfilled this prophecy.

I don't know if I found "the answer" to this prophecy, but certainly one that is more satisfactory.  I decided to look at the Bible for clues to the meaning of the phrase, and then at the circumstances of Pius XII's reign and see if there is some agreement. 

In the Bible there are several shepherds.  I looked at each of these men to see if any of their names meant "angel". I couldn't find any.

(Here is the result: Abel [breath]; Abraham [father of a multitude]; Lot [covering]; Isaac [laughter]; Jacob [supplanter]; Laban [whiite]; Jacob's twelve sons: Reuben [behold a son]; Simeon [hearing]; Levi [joined; attached]; Judah [let Him [God] be praised]; Dan [judge]; Naphtali [my wrestling]; Gad [troop; invader; good fortune]; Asher [happy]; Issachar [man of hire]; Zebulun [dwelling]; Joseph [increaser]; Benjamin [son of the right hand]; Moses [drawn out]; David [well-beloved]; Mesha (King of Moab, i.e. Jordan) [retreat]; Doeg [fearful]; and Amos [burden-bearer].)

But if you look at that list, you will see that there are only two shepherds who wrote books of the Bible: Moses and Amos. Moses is credited with writing the first five books of the Old Testament, so there is no end of meanings that could attach to his work.  But the prophet Amos wrote only the one eponymous book wherein he prophesied that Israel would be punished/led into captivity for sin.  Considering that Pius XII was the last pope before the destruction of the Church that began with Vatican II (where the Church was led into a sort of spiritual captivity), I would say this is a meaningful correlation. 

Another interesting coincidence is found in the opening passage of Amos: "The words of Amos, who was among herdsmen of Thecua: which he saw concerning Israel in the days of Ozias king of Juda, and in the days of Jeroboam the son of Joas king of Israel two years before the earthquake."  Piux XII died in 1958, two years before the 1960 Valdivia earthquake in Chile, which was the most powerful earthquake ever recorded. (9.5 on the moment magnitude scale).  (Also See Revelation 8:5)

Another possible fulfillment in Amos has to do with that prophet's vision, which is translated as either a basket of summer fruit, or a hook to draw down fruit. (Amos 8:1).  This is reminiscent of Jesus' Olivet Discourse, when he speaks of end times (Mt 24).  These two passages parallel each other because both are rhyming poems that speak of the end times. (Apparently "summer fruit" rhymes with "The End" in Hebrew.)

Amos 8:1 - This is what the Lord GOD showed me: a basket of end-of-summer fruit.
[--Or These things the Lord shewed to me: and behold a hook to draw down the fruit;]
cf Matthew 24:1 -- And Jesus being come out of the temple, went away. And his disciples came to shew him the buildings of the temple. [2] And he answering, said to them: Do you see all these things? 

This corresponds to Pius XII because it was during the reign of Pius XII that the terrorist state of israel was created (1947).  If you remember from the Bible, Jesus cursed a fig tree, which stood for the Jewish temple, and the withering of the fig tree prefigured the destruction of Jerusalem. (Mk 11:12-14) Jesus reminds the apostles of the fig tree in this same chapter of Matthew:

Mt 24:32 - "And from the fig tree learn a parable: When the branch thereof is now tender, and the leaves come forth, you know that summer is nigh. [33] So you also, when you shall see all these things, know ye that it is nigh, even at the doors. "

The reappearance of the Jewish state serves as a signal that the end is near.

Pope Pius XII also said that, on four separate occasions, he had private revelations of the miracle of the sun, at Fatima. [Where the Sun is said to have "danced in the sky", and which was witnessed by over 30,000 people in Fatima, Portugal, October 13, 1917.] This is also referenced in the Book of Amos:

Amos 5:18 "Woe to them that desire the day of the Lord: to what end is it for you? the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light."
Amos 8:9 "And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord God, that the sun shall go down at midday, and I will make the earth dark in the day of light:"

To sum this up, I would say that "angelic shepherd" points to the book of Amos, and this book corresponds to the reign of Pius XII because it warns of Vatican II (and conceivably a spiritual exile for the Catholic Church), speaks about the earthquake two years afterward, and cross-references the portion of Matthews Gospel where Jesus harkens back to Amos and mentions the rise of israel and the end of times. 

John XXIII
Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli, was elected pope and took the name John XXIII.  His reign lasted from 1958 to 1963. On the list he is number 107: "Pastor et Nauta" - "pastor and marine/sailor. 

I already gave a quote above that shows why the analysis of this prophecy is wanting in some measure.  This is the average analysis of this passage: "prior to his election he was patriarch of Venice, a marine city, home of the gondolas."  But Italy is a peninsula, so many, if not most clergy from that country are going to have a passing acquaintance with the sea. Merely serving as the Bishop of Venice is not satisfying to me. 

My own analysis looks once again to the Bible.  Is there a pastor and sailor in the Bible? There are two that I could think of.  One is the fisherman, Peter, who wrote 2 letters in the New Testament; The one in the Old Testament is the prophet Jonah, who was told to preach to Nineveh about their impending doom, but instead ran away to Spain:

Now the word of the Lord came to Jonas the son of Amathi, saying: [2] Arise, and go to Ninive the great city, and preach in it: for the wickedness thereof is come up before me. [3] And Jonas rose up to flee into Tharsis from the face of the Lord, and he went down to Joppe, and found a ship going to Tharsis: and he paid the fare thereof, and went down into it, to go with them to Tharsis from the face of the Lord. [4] But the Lord sent a great wind into the sea: and a great tempest was raised in the sea, and the ship was in danger to be broken. [5] And the mariners were afraid, and the men cried to their god: and they cast forth the wares that were in the ship, into the sea, to lighten it of them: and Jonas went down into the inner part of the ship, and fell into a deep sleep.

This story relates to John XXIII by way of the story of Fatima, which I briefly mentioned above. In 1917, near the end of the first world war, 3 shepherd children in Portugal had a vision of the Virgin Mary, and they were given 3 secrets. The first secret was a vision of hell; the second secret was that the war would soon end, but that a second war would come:

the war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.

There's a lot of information given in the second secret. First of all, notice that the year was 1917, but these shepherd children were told that Russia would spread her error throughout the world. These children didn't even know where Russia was, but the Blessed Mother had prophesied that communism would take hold there and spread around the world.

This second secret also predicted WW II before the first world war had even ended. The great sign warning of the second world war was indeed given by God:

A brilliant auroral display was visible over most of England and from many places on the continent of Europe on the night of January 25-26 [1938]. "Aurora of January 25-26" - [Nature, January 29, 1938, p.192]

Northern Lights Down South - A Brilliant Display; Times, January 1938; http://www.ukweatherworld.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/65561-the-skys-on-fire-the-great-aurora-of-january-1938/

Aurora Borealis Startles Europe; People Flee in Fear, Call Firemen - Britons Thought Windsor Castle Ablaze -- Scots see Ill Omen - Snow Clad Swiss Alps Glow -- Short Wave Radio Halts.  [New York Times, January 26, 1938] http://luisapiccarreta.co/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/P_Fatima-Night-Light.jpg

What was the third secret of Fatima? Well, no one is really sure. But one of the children, Lucia, lived to adulthood, and became a cloistered nun.  Lucia was ordered by her Bishop to write the 3rd Secret down, which she did. This secret was given to the Pope, and there were instructions that the Pope was supposed to reveal the secret in 1960. On May 17, 1955, Cardinal Ottaviani, pro-prefect of the Holy Office, asked Sister Lucia about the third Secret. Later, in a conference of 1967, he stated: 

The message was not to be opened before 1960. I asked Sister Lucy,  "Why this date?" She answered,  "Because then it will seem clearer"

As to what the actual content of this hidden text actually refers to is open to speculation.... Sr Lucia's comments that the secret referred specifically to chapters 8-13 of the Book of Revelation is one of the key insights into the content of this hidden text (See De la Sainte Trinite, M. The Whole Truth About Fatima, Volume III p533). http://unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.com/2011/08/more-on-third-secret.html

So everyone was expecting this 3rd secret to be revealed in 1960. My father was a young man at that time, and he remembers waiting for this revelation by the Pope. But then 1960 came and went, and the secret was never revealed. 

In 1960 Pope John XXIII gave the incomprehensible message in direct contradiction to the command of Mother of God: "Questo non Ë per i nostri tempi." ["This matter is not for our times."] http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/F039_Secret1960.html

To summarize: Pope John XXIII was given a message to preach from God, but he refused. Just like Jonah.

What would have made the meaning of the 3rd secret clearer in 1960? Well, in 1959, John XXIII had announced that there would be a 2nd Vatican Council. Strangely enough, the Council was announced on January 25th, 1959. That is exactly 21 years after the lights in the sky: the Great Warning of the impending 2nd World War.

Many people believe that the the 3rd Secret of Fatima warned about Vatican II:

Cardinal Silvio Oddi, who was Prefect of the Congregation of the Clergy in the Pontificate of John Paul II and very close to John XXIII during his reign, relates this very revealing anecdote about a conversation he had with the latter:

Oddi: John XXIII commanded me to never mention the Third Secret
Taking advantage of the great confidence that reigned between us, I said to him straightforwardly,  "Holy Father, there is something for which I cannot pardon you."
-- "What is it?"  he asked.
-- "The whole world has waited for so many years, and with some months having already passed since the beginning of 1960, we still know nothing (about the Third Secret)."
   Pope Roncalli answered,  "Do not speak to me of this again."
    I replied,  "If that is what you want, I won't speak about it again. But you can't prevent others from doing so."
-- "I have already told you not to speak again of it."
-- "And I did not insist."

Thirty years later, after much water had run under the bridge, Cardinal Oddi confessed to the same magazine (30 Giorni): "The Secret of Fatima contains a sad prophecy about the Church and, for this reason Pope John did not divulge it. And neither have Paul VI or John Paul II. It seems to me that what is basically written is that the Pope would convene a Council in 1960 which, contrary to expectations, would indirectly result in many difficulties for the Church."   [See page for citations.] http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/g19htBertone_Secret_2.html

The other pastor and sailor that comes to mind is St Peter. Examining his letters with this view of the forthcoming 2nd Vatican council, we can find this relevant passage:

[2 Peter 2:1-3 - "But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there shall be among you lying teachers, who shall bring in sects of perdition, and deny the Lord who bought them: bringing upon themselves swift destruction. [2] And many shall follow their riotousnesses, through whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. [3] And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you. Whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their perdition slumbereth not. "]

Paul VI
Giovanni Battista Enrico Antonio Maria Montini showed promise from a very early age in his uncanny ability to memorize his own name.  Montini was elected Pope, and served as Paul VI from 1963 to 1978.  The prophetic phrase that describes this pontificate is number 108: "Flos Florum" -  "Bloom of Flowers". 

The disappointing coverage of this phrase explains that Montini's coat of arms displayed three lilies -- like a whopping portion of other popes.

To explain this phrase, I need to give a little background on Paul VI. Again, I see this phrase as relating to Paul VI in terms of his role in Vatican II. If you have been paying attention, you will have noticed that John XXIII started the 2nd Vatican Council, but he did not live to see its end. John XXIII died in 1963, and it remained for his successor Paul the VI to sign all of the documents. These documents contained numerous heresies that contradict the earlier teachings of the Catholic Church.  For this reason, traditionalists lay a fair amount of the blame for Vatican II on Paul VI.

Vatican II Heresy
I should provide just a few examples of the heresy of Vatican II, so the reader will be assured that my claims are not unfounded.

Gaudium et Spes # 12:  "According to the almost unanimous opinion of believers and unbelievers alike, all things on earth should be related to man as their center and crown."

This is not only heresy but blasphemy. Saying that man is the center of religion is to deny God's authority.

Perhaps more relevant to This Blog (TIU) is this nugget from Nostra Aetate:

Nostra Aetate (#4):  "True, the Jewish authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ; still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures.  _

This contains a reversal on two main points: that the Jews were responsible for the death of Christ; and that the Jews are rejected by God.

The first point is plainly contradicted by scripture:

Mt 27:21-25 "And the governor answering, said to them: Whether will you of the two to be released unto you? But they said, Barabbas. [22] Pilate saith to them: What shall I do then with Jesus that is called Christ? They say all: Let him be crucified. [23] The governor said to them: Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying: Let him be crucified. [24] And Pilate seeing that he prevailed nothing, but that rather a tumult was made; taking water washed his hands before the people, saying: I am innocent of the blood of this just man; look you to it. [25] And the whole people answering, said: His blood be upon us and our children.

Acts 2:14, 36 "But Peter standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and spoke to them: Ye men of Judea, and all you that dwell in Jerusalem, be this known to you, and with your ears receive my words....Therefore let all the house of Israel know most certainly, that God hath made both Lord and Christ, this same Jesus, whom you have crucified."

1Thess2-14-15 "For you, brethren, are become followers of the churches of God which are in Judea, in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered the same things from your own countrymen, even as they have from the Jews, [15] Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men; "

It should be pretty clear from these passages that the Bible teaches that the Jews killed Jesus, and that the Church taught that this guilt was not laid only upon those present, or who had participated in the actual conspiracy.

The rejection of Jews by God was also part of Catholic teaching from the beginning:

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/vatican_ii.php
t should be obvious to all that the text of Nostra Aetate #4 is heretical.  Jews are rejected by God, because all who reject Jesus Christ are denied by God.  This is a truth that Our Lord specifically revealed in Sacred Scripture.

Matthew 10:33-  "But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny before my Father who is in heaven."

The word  "deny" means to reject or to repudiate.  Look it up in the dictionary.  Therefore, Vatican II is denying the divinely revealed truth of Matthew 10:33: he who denies Our Lord is rejected by Him.  Thus, without even going farther into detail, one should easily see that Vatican II teaches blatant heresy in Nostra Aetate #4.

Jewish Lobbying & Crypto-Jews In Vatican II
This attempt to legitimize the Jews through the pseudo-dogma of the 2nd Vatican Council did not come about spontaneously. If we look at the history and politics of Vatican II, we find that Jewish lobbyists and publishers worked to influence the Council from the outside, and that Jews who supposedly converted to Catholicism were actually writing some of the documents.

The January 25, 1966 edition of "Look" Magazine [Volume 30 No. 2] ran a story about "How the Jews Changed Catholic Thinking" in the 2nd Vatican Council.  The story presumes that the "social disease" of "anti- Semitism" came about because of the Catholic dogma that the Jews killed Jesus. This hatred of Jews, the article claims, led directly to Auschwitz.

Starting from this premise, these holy and spotless victims seem perfectly justified in preventing another 6 trillion of their very special race from being gassed, lampshaded, made into soap, shampoo and cream rinse, electrified, buried and dug up and gassed again for good measure.

This argument that blamed Catholic dogma for the holohoax was made into a book, Jesus and Israel, by a French Jew Jules Isaac. The book managed to convince some Catholic clergy of this fault in their faith, among them Father Paul Demann, a Hungarian Jew convert, and Father Gregory Baum, an Augustinian priest who was born an Orthodox Jew.   

"After Auschwitz the Christian churches no longer wish to convert the Jews. While they may not be sure of the theological grounds that dispense them from this mission, the churches have become aware that asking the Jews to become Christians is a spiritual way of blotting them out of existence and thus only reinforces the effects of the Holocaust. The churches, moreover, realize the deadly irony implicit in a Christian plea for the conversion of the Jews; for after Auschwitz and the participation of the nations, it is the Christian world that is in need of conversion." -- Fr Gregory Baum, in Auschwitz: Beginning of a New Era?, edited by  Eva Fleischner

Isaac's book managed to get him an audience at the Vatican, which led to his meeting with Cardinal Augustin Bea, a German Jesuit.  The "Look" magazine story notes that Bea's staff included Msgr. John Oesterreicher, a former zionist Jew who converted to Catholicism.  The Cairo daily, Al Gomhuria, had even claimed that Cardinal Bea was a Jew, whose original family name was Behar. Pope John XXIII gave Cardinal Bea the charge of a special ecumenical committee whose purpose was to formulate a statement condemning anti-semitism. In the coming months, Bea met with various Jewish representatives from the ADL and the Jewish Theological Seminary, and also held a secret meeting at the offices of the American Jewish Committee.

Malachi Martin
At the time of the Council, Fr. Malachi Martin was an aide to Cardinal Bea. But Martin used this opportunity to foster connections in the publishing world. The "Look" article makes reference to an inside source, under the psuedonym "Timothy Fitzharris O'Boyle, S.J.", who leaked secret information about Council politics to the press.  But since that time, researchers have discovered much concrete evidence proving that this refers to Malachi Martin. 

http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-final-nail-in-malachi-martins-coffin.html
As Michael Serafian, he wrote "The Pilgrim" (Ferrar, Straus & Giroux, 1964), a tell-all book on the politics, key figures and inner dealings of the council. The Pilgrim was published in May of 1964, between the second and third sessions of the council. The book was calculated to impart to Catholics the message "You are Nazis," and that Christianity 'paved the road to Auschwitz' and is therefore in need of radical reform. The Pilgrim was flanked by similar editorials, articles and interviews published in the New York Times, Time magazine and elsewhere. One article published October 1964 in The Jewish World quoted an unnamed Vatican source invoking extermination language saying "the Most Holy Father still has not made up his mind on the Jewish issue at this time, the final solution is still to come."  The history of the payments made to Martin through the American Jewish Committee, and correspondence concerning Martin's other publishing deals HERE: http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/06/malachi-martin-american-jewish.html

http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/06/malachi-martin-american-jewish.html
As F.E. Cartus, Martin penned two timely articles, one for Harper's Magazine and one for the American Jewish Committee's influential intellectual periodical "Commentary." As Pushkin, Martin would feed "inside tips and tactical leaks," often in the form of notes slipped under doors, to journalists of major media organizations.

In an 1973 interview in the Cincinnati Enquirer, Martin confessed that he blackmailed Cardinals into following Bea's demands:

Some of his work involved intelligence gathering behind the Iron Curtain and throughout the Middle East, he said, and some of it involved shaking long-closeted skeletons in the faces of cardinals who didn't quite want to do what Cardinal Bea and the pope wanted at the Vatican council.

"I saw cardinals sweating in front of me." Martin recalled with mixed emotions. It was heady having that power,  "and I began to enjoy it." http://angelqueen.org/malachi-martin-files/jesus-now-author-not-a-swashbuckler/

After Martin's services to the Vatican Council were ended, he was given a substantial award by the Guggenheim foundation. Thereafter, Martin also enjoyed a publishing deal with Simon and Schuster.

All of these intrigues reached their fruition in October 1964, when 3 formerly Jewish priests Gregory Baum, Bruno Hussar and Johannes Oesterreicher assembled what became the final text of the council's decree on the Jews, and which was voted on by the bishops a year later.  http://forward.com/articles/159955/converts-who-changed-the-church/?p=all#ixzz3AV0CS3CA

The Prophecy - "Flos Florum" -  "Flower of Flowers".
Looking at the Bible again, I searched for relevant passages that talk about flowers. The second chapter in the Song of Solomon mentions flowers 4 times:

(Sol 2:1-15) "I am the flower of the field, and the lily of the valleys. [2] As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters. [3] As the apple tree among the trees of the woods, so is my beloved among the sons. I sat down under his shadow, whom I desired: and his fruit was sweet to my palate. [4] He brought me into the cellar of wine, he set in order charity in me. [5] Stay me up with flowers, compass me about with apples: because I languish with love.

Note [1] I am the flower of the field: Christ professes himself the flower of mankind, yea, the Lord of all creatures: and, ver. 2, declares the excellence of his spouse, the true church above all other societies, which are to be considered as thorns.

[6] His left hand is under my head, and his right hand shall embrace me. [7] I adjure you, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes, and the harts of the, fields, that you stir not up, nor make the beloved to awake, till she please. [8] The voice of my beloved, behold he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping over the hills. [9] My beloved is like a roe, or a young hart. Behold he standeth behind our wall, looking through the windows, looking through the lattices. [10] Behold my beloved speaketh to me: Arise, make haste, my love, my dove, my beautiful one, and come.

[8] The voice of my beloved: that is, the preaching of the gospel surmounting difficulties figuratively here expressed by mountains and little hills.

[11] For winter is now past, the rain is over and gone. [12] The flowers have appeared in our land, the time of pruning is come: the voice of the turtle is heard in our land: [13] The fig tree hath put forth her green figs: the vines in flower yield their sweet smell. Arise, my love, my beautiful one, and come: [14] My dove in the clefts of the rock, in the hollow places of the wall, shew me thy face, let thy voice sound in my ears: for thy voice is sweet, and thy face comely. [15] Catch us the little foxes that destroy the vines: for our vineyard hath flourished.

[15] Catch us the little foxes: Christ commands his pastors to catch false teachers, by holding forth their fallacy and erroneous doctrine, which like foxes would bite and destroy the vines.

The flowers in the chapter are the signal that the time for pruning has come, and the Bible warns the pastors to catch the false teachers promoting erroneous doctrine. I can't help but think of Cardinal Bea, and Martin, Baum, Hussar and Oesterreicher as the little foxes inventing heretical doctrine in Vatican II.  Paul VI did not heed this warning from scripture, and the Church suffered greatly as a result. 

Considering all of the aforementioned intrigues and Jewish lobbying, and the formerly Jewish (Crypto?) priests involved in crafting the heretical Nostra Atate, it is very interesting to find that the fig tree is also mentioned in this passage.

As I noted earlier, the fig tree was a symbol of the Jewish Temple. Christ warned that the fig tree was a sign of the end times.

Mt 24:32-33 "And from the fig tree learn a parable: When the branch thereof is now tender, and the leaves come forth, you know that summer is nigh. So you also, when you shall see all these things, know ye that it is nigh, even at the doors.

This mention of the fig tree therefore appropriately places the time of "flos florum" during the reign of the modern anti-Christ state of israel. 

John Paul I (1978)
Albino Luciani was elected pope in 1978. Named Pope John Paul I, he was number 109 on the list: "De Medietate Lunae" - "Of the Half Moon". 

The story of this Pope is that he was only in office for one month before he died. A month is one full lunar cycle, so critical analysis of the prophecy often points to this fact.

Luciani was elected pope on 26 August 1978.
The moon entered its 3rd phase on the day before: Aug 25 1978.  The third phase looks like a half-moon: "of the half-moon".

Luciani, Pope John Paul I, died on 28 September 1978, just 33 days after election.  This is four days after the moon entered the 3rd phase, which was on September 24. The new, blank moon was four days after Luciani died, on October 2. On the 28th, the phase might properly be called a waning crescent, which is about a quarter moon.

There is another latin word, "dimidiam", which also means "half"; "medietate" seems to have a more nuanced understanding: "about half".  One translation of the prophecy has it  "Of the Middleness of the Moon".  All in all, it seems fair to say that Luciani was pope from one half-moon phase to the next, and therefore the prophecy was fulfilled.

The brevity of Pope John Paul I's reign seems to be implicated here also. The idea that we are getting "half" of something seems to indicate that we are not getting "all" of it. The use of "half" might signify that John Paul I's reign was shortened.

Assassination
There have been several books that theorize that John Paul I was assassinated. In writing this article I have wasted a ton of time chasing down the motives and means and opportunities for a "murder" of John Paul I.  I am not any closer to any definitive answers.

Was he poisoned or did JP I die of natural causes? Officially, he died of natural causes.

[Luciani's niece] said her uncle may have suffered a thrombosis, meaning a clot that obstructs the flow of blood, since he had already experiences one such episode during a 1975 trip to Brazil that affected the retina in one eye.
http://ncronline.org/blogs/all-things-catholic/debunking-four-myths-about-john-paul-i-smiling-pope

The David Yallup book, In God's Name, and other books make the case that JP I was murdered. The main culprits are said to be the Freemasons. The most suspicious aspect of the story is that there was a major banking scandal in the Vatican that was breaking loose at the same time.  There was also a list of Freemasons that was turned over to the police at this time:

The Pecorelli list is the most credible piece of evidence for the presence of Freemasons in the upper ranks of the Vatican II Church; an organisation which claims to be the Catholic Church and controls most of it's buildings. The list was published by Carmine Pecorelli a member of Propaganda Due and the Grande Oriente d'Italia, purporting to be a list of 120 masons in or associated with Vatican dicasteries, including cardinals, bishops and priests as well as members of the laity. It included "Cardinal" Jean Villot and "Cardinal" Agostino Casaroli who were Secretary of State in the Vatican City. Pecorelli himself was murdered shortly after in March 1979.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Pecorelli_list

It turns out that Cardinal Villot was present at the time the body of JP I was discovered. Conspiracy theorists say that Villot carried off relevant evidence that was never scene from again. Villot died about 6 months later, and a book on Freemasonry was found among his belongings. It was dedicated to Villot by the Grand Master of the French Loge.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hl8rpHGfCO8/UTM6Aj9ICfI/AAAAAAAALrs/zqXqslKe1Fc/s1600/dedica+a+VILLOT.jpg

Some think that JP I was going to root out the Freemasons, but that Villot found out and then JP I was poisoned. Or whatever. The whole thing is very sketchy.

Left or Right
Yallup seems to make out JP I was a real liberal. A traditional site says that JP I had contacted Fr De Pauw in the US, and had sent word that De Pauw was going to be sent the Vatican in order to work on restoring the Traditional Latin Rite of the mass.
http://www.latinmass-ctm.org/ctmnews/September2013.htm

This site makes the case that JP I had had left leanings, but never veered away from Church dogma. http://shelf3d.com/i/Pope%20John%20Paul%20I

I would prefer to come up with a more substantive conclusion, but there was no autopsy and everything seems very speculative. The timing of the Freemasonry discovery and the Banking scandal and the very short reign of JP I are enticing, but I have a feeling that speculating on these matters will lead to a bad ending.  The plot of Godfather III was based on this story, and despite Godfather I and II being really good, number III sucked rocks.  How could you screw up Godfather III? When I think about the Vatican being captured, it makes me mad. But Godfather III makes me really mad.

The Prophecy
"De Medietate Lunae" - "Of the Half Moon". Or "From the Midst of the Moon".

Once again I searched the Latin Vulgate version of the Holy Bible for "medietate" and "lunae". The most promising result was Proverbs 7:

Proverbs 7: My son, keep my words, and lay up my precepts with thee. Son, [2] Keep my commandments, and thou shalt live: and my law as the apple of thy eye: [3] Bind it upon thy fingers, write it upon the tables of thy heart. [4] Say to wisdom: Thou art my sister: and call prudence thy friend, [5] That she may keep thee from the woman that is not thine, and from the stranger who sweeteneth her words.

[6] For I look out of the window of my house through the lattice, [7] And I see little ones, I behold a foolish young man, [8] Who passeth through the street by the corner, and goeth nigh the way of her house. [9] In the dark, when it grows late, in the darkness and obscurity of the night, [10] And behold a woman meeteth him in harlot' s attire prepared to deceive souls; talkative and wandering,

[11] Not bearing to be quiet, not able to abide still at home, [12] Now abroad, now in the streets, now lying in wait near the corners. [13] And catching the young man, she kisseth him, and with an impudent face, flattereth, saying: [14] I vowed victims for prosperity, this day I have paid my vows. [15] Therefore I am come out to meet thee, desirous to see thee, and I have found thee.

[16] I have woven my bed with cords, I have covered it with painted tapestry, brought from Egypt. [17] I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon. [18] Come, let us be inebriated with the breasts, and let us enjoy the desired embraces, till the day appear. [19] For my husband is not at home, he is gone a very long journey. [20] He took with him a bag of money: he mill return home the day of the full moon.

[21] She entangled him with many words, and drew him away with the flattery of her lips. [22] Immediately he followeth her as an ox led to be a victim, and as a lamb playing the wanton, and not knowing that he is drawn like a fool to bonds, [23] Till the arrow pierce his liver: as if a bird should make haste to the snare, and knoweth not that his life is in danger. [24] Now therefore, my son, hear me, and attend to the words of my mouth. [25] Let not thy mind be drawn away in her ways: neither be thou deceived with her paths.

[26] For she hath cast down many wounded, and the strongest have been slain by her. [27] Her house is the way to hell, reaching even to the inner chambers of death.

John Paul II (1978-2005)
Karol Wojtyla was elected Pope John Paul II in 1978. He died in 2005. John Paul is 110 on the list: "De Labore Solis" - (Of the Eclipse of the Sun)

John Paul II and the Jews
Wojtyla had a long, cozy history with the Jews.

When Wojtyla was first elected pope, the newspaper La Croix 8 November 1978, ran an article where Mr. Lichten, delegate to the Rome Jewish organization B'nai B'rith, paid tribute to John Paul II: The Father Wojtyla has greatly helped the Jews of Krakow, and said he was part of the network Christian Unia.

If you remember back to the mid-70's, when JP II was elected, you will remember that it was during that time when we started hearing about the Holocaust!" 24/7. Is it a coincidence that, before being elected Pope, Wojtyla was the Archbishop Krakow, which is a mere 60 km from the infamous Aushwitz?  The very spot where 4 million imaginary Jews gassed, and electrified, and also drowned in the swimming pool.

Along with helping to propagate the holohoax myth, JP II made a number of other major major concessions to the Jews. As Marlon Brando would have asked, "What was his motivation?"  Was Wojtyla a Jew?

Pope was Jewish says Historian
by Riazat Butt
Published 14 April 2005
Manchester Metro News

A Manchester historian has claimed that Pope John Paul II was Jewish.

Yaakov Wise says his study into the maternal ancestry of Karol Josez Wojtyla (John Paul II _s real name) has revealed startling conclusions. Mr Wise, a researcher in orthodox Jewish history and philosophy, said the late Pope _s mother, grandmother and great-grandmother were all probably Jewish and came from a small town not far from Krakow. The Pope was a priest and cardinal archbishop in the Polish city before his election to the papacy.

Mr Wise said: "According to orthodox Judaism, a person's Jewish identity is passed down through the maternal line. I saw a photograph of the Pope's mother and I showed it to people who didn't know who she was. They all said she looked Jewish. So I started doing more investigations about her background."

Although he believes the Pope's father was an ethnic Pole, he thinks that John Paul's mother Emilia Kaczorowski - Emily Katz in English - was Jewish and that she was the daughter of Feliks Kaczowski, a businessman from Biala-Bielsko in Poland. Katz is a common surname amongst East European Jewish families.

Emilia's mother, the Pope's grandmother, was Maria Anna Scholz. Scholz, or Schulze, is also a common surname among Jews, as is Rybicka, or Ryback, which is the surname of the Pope's great-grandmother Zuzanna.

All the names or their variations appear on gravestones in the old Biala Jewish cemetery, as does the surname of Felik _s mother Urszula Maklinowska. Mr Wise said:  "The Pope's ancestry has been researched by an American historian. But nobody has traced the family name through the Jewish community and, as Jewish historian, I have access to information that a non-Jewish historian wouldn't know about. I'm not making any firm conclusions, but what I'm saying is that there is a lot of circumstantial evidence to say that he was Jewish.

Catholic blogs will dismiss any idea of JP II's Jewishness out of hand, without even bothering to explain the coincidence that why Wojtyla's maternal line just happened to have Jewish surnames. I cannot dismiss the idea so easily when I  consider JP II's ingratiating attitude towards the Jewish people:

1. JP II was the first pope to visit a synagogue. Entering a synagogue and participating in worship services was traditionally considered to be an act of apostasy. [See St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Pt. I-II, Q. 103., A. 4:  "All ceremonies are professions of faith, in which the interior worship of God consists. Now man can make profession of his inward faith, by deeds as well as by words: and in either profession, if he make a false declaration, he sins mortally." See also Summa Theologica, Pt. II, Q. 12, A. 1, Obj. 2:  "& if anyone were to & worship at the tomb of Mahomet, he would be deemed an apostate." See also Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Cantate Domino, 1441.]

2. JP II was the first pope to visit the holohoax museum at Auschwitz.

3. JP II apologized to the Jews for not preventing the holohoax, and condemned all the past actions by Church that had condemned the Jews.

4. JP II was the first pope to pray at the wailing wall. The wailing wall is supposed to be a western wall of the old Jewish Temple, but it is actually a remanent of the the ancient Roman fort Antonia.  Jews believe that this wall is the holiest site in the world, and so they stick prayers to God in the cracks of the wall.  If you are a famous person, the Jews will take the prayer out of the wall and publish it in the newspaper, so you shouldn't really write anything personal in your "prayer to God".  In typical post-conciliar fashion, John Paul II wrote a prayer bemoaning the suffering of the chosen people:

God of our fathers,
you chose Abraham and his descendants
to bring your Name to the Nations:
we are deeply saddened by the behaviour of those
who in the course of history
have caused these children of yours to suffer,
and asking your forgiveness we wish to commit ourselves
to genuine brotherhood
with the people of the Covenant.
R. Amen

5. JP II was the first Pope to formally recognize the terrorist state of israel.

John Paul II's treatment of the Jews was a very abrupt change from what had gone before.
http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/a028htJPII_VisitToSynagogue1986.htm
Prior to JP II, the Church had referred to "Israel" as the children of God, which is the people in the Holy Catholic Church.  Now, "israel" refers to that criminal enterprise in Palestine.  Prior to JP II, the term "holocaust" referred to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ on the cross.  But Wojtyla had the audacity to declare that Auschwitz was the "Golgotha of the modern world."  Prior to JP II, the Church had taught that the Jews had persecuted Christians from the very beginning, and the Popes had passed laws which would prevent further abuse. But John Paul II Condemned the writings of no less than 22 Popes, 19 councils, and a long list of Church Fathers, Doctors and Saints. 

John Paul did not rely on any logical arguments, but relied wholly upon Nostra Aetate, that heretical encyclical authored by the Jewish clique at Vatican II:

Nostra aetate, (71) which I just referred to, about relations between the Church and non-Christian religions. The decisive turnaround in relations between the Catholic Church and Judaism, and with Jews individually, took place with this brief but incisive paragraph.

"We all are aware that three points stand out especially among the many riches of this n. 4 of Nostra aetate. I would like to emphasize them here before you, in these truly unique circumstances.

"The first is that the Church of Christ discovers her  'link' with Judaism by  "sounding the depths of her own mystery." (72) The Hebrew religion is not  'extrinsic' to us, but is somehow  'intrinsic' to our religion. We have, therefore, relations with it that we do not have with any other religion. You are our beloved brothers and in a certain way one could say, our older brothers."

The people that had persecuted Jesus Christ, and all the Sts dating back to St Stephen and St Paul, we now "our elder brothers".  And despite all the Church's prior teaching that partaking in Jewish ceremonies was apostasy, John Paul II taught that the Jewish religion was intrinsic to the Catholic Faith! 

It is well known that all of the media is controlled by the Jews. http://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-big-media/
John Paul II was the Pope for 28 years, and during that time the pope got excellent press coverage, and was almost always portrayed as a good and holy man. He was even Time's man of the year in 94-95: http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19941226,00.html

Yet at the same time, throughout the entirety of JP II's reign, the Catholic Church was undergoing the worst scandal in its history: the priest pederast scandal.

Pederasty Scandal
Prior to the 2nd Vatican council, the Catholic Church of the first part of the 20th century had had a golden age of the priesthood. In the period from 1900 to 1960, the United States had seen a huge growth in well-educated, orthodox, holy priests.  But after Vatican II, it became common practice for seminaries to admit homosexual men.  Michael Rose's Book, GoodBye Good Men, gives the painful details of how Freemasons and others worked to subvert the system, and to prevent orthodox candidates from becoming priests. 

Randy Engel wrote extensively on the pederasty scandal and had this to say:

You will notice that in referring to clerical crimes of sexual abuse against minors I use the term pederasty, rather than the clinical term pedophilia, since the majority of clerical sex abuse cases in the Catholic Church today involve sexual contact between adult homosexual males and adolescent boys, and not infants and young children of either sex.

The term pedophilia is of relatively recent origin having been coined in 1912 by the Austro-German psychiatrist Professor Richard von Krafft-Ebing to describe a form of sexual perversion or pathology in which an adult, almost exclusively a male, is erotically attracted to infants and very young children of the same or opposite sex.

In contrast, pederasty, derived from the Greek paiderastes, literally, a lover of boys, is a term found in the annals of antiquity and is almost universally understood as sexual acts between an adult male and a male adolescent or male child approaching puberty.

Up until the early 1980s, the terms pederasty and pederast with their obvious connection to male homosexuality were used by both Church and State to define sexual relations between adult homosexuals and underage boys.

This intimate connection between homosexuality and pederasty was recognized by the early Church Fathers of the East and the West, and by great saints like Saint John Chrysostom (344?-407) who condemned the unnatural and diabolic desires of the sodomites especially those pederasts who came to church to look with lustful curiosity upon handsome youth.

Saint Peter Damian specifically condemned the seduction of youth by homosexual clerics in his classic treatise on homosexuality and pederasty titled The Book of Gomorrah written in 1049....

The Handbook of Moral Theology by Dominic M. Pl¸mmer, O.P. (1866-1931), which served as a standard reference on moral questions for generations of Catholic priests and confessors and seminarians in the pre-Vatican II era, lists both "paederasty" and "the unnatural vice," as synonyms for sodomy (525. 2.).

As late as 1961, the Sacred Congregation for Religious continued to make the connection between homosexuality and pederasty as evidenced by the dual reference found in the pre-Vatican II document Careful Selection And Training Of Candidates For The States Of Perfection And Sacred Orders.

Section 31 (4) addresses the issue of grave violations of chastity by candidates for religious life states: "Advancement to religious vows and ordination should be barred to those who are afflicted with evil tendencies to homosexuality or pederasty, since for them the common life and the priestly ministry would constitute serious dangers."

So why after almost 2000 years, did the post-Conciliar Church decide to abandon its traditional linkage of homosexuality to pederasty and adopt the clinical term, pedophilia?

Why else but to accommodate and protect the Homosexual Collective.

...

Statistically speaking, while there are more heterosexual pedophiles in the general community, homosexual pederasts account for a greater percentage of sexual offenses against minors. When one considers the fact that homosexuals, whatever the age of partner preference, represent a very small minority of the general population, it is clear that they are substantially overrepresented in criminal cases involving minors. Further, the sexual offense rate of pederasts are likely to be underestimated as boys are less likely to report incidents of sexual abuse, including repeated and violent assaults over a long period of time, than young girls.
..

Finally, we come to one of the critical issues involved in cases of pederasty, both clerical and secular  _ that of the successful treatment for this class of sex offender. Here the prognosis for the complete rehabilitation of the homosexual pederast is very, very poor. As a group, homosexual pederasts claim the highest rate of recidivism and are among the most difficult types of sex offenders to successfully treat.
...

Predictably, the use of verbal gymnastics by Catholic officials with the [intention] of preventing the Catholic laity and general public from making any connection between the rise of homosexual practices in the Catholic priesthood, religious life, and hierarchy, and the increase of sexual abuse of male adolescents by those same persons, has led to numerous unforeseen and dangerous consequences for victims and perpetrators alike. Realistically, how can the Catholic Church be expected to solve this grave problem when its leaders steadfastly refuse to correctly define the problem?
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/engel/131110

As Randy Engel points out, the vast majority of the scandal involved priests buggering adolescent boys. This is pederasty. This is what the ancient Greeks called it, and it has always been linked to homosexuality, and the Church had always recognized this...before the 2nd Vatican Council.

So after the council, the bishops ignored 2,000 years of Church wisdom, and started letting homosexuals into the seminaries. As Michael Rose's book shows, certain seminaries became widely known as hives of homosexual activity. For example, St Mary's seminary in Baltimore was nicknamed "the Pink Palace", and Notre Dame Seminary in New Orleans was dubbed "Notre Flame". [see Rose at 56.]

And as Ms Engel points out, the well-known proclivity of homosexuals to bugger boys expressed itself when these homosexuals were wrongfully ordained to the priesthood. And the scandal ensued.  Who couldn't see this coming? 

John Paul II apparently couldn't see this coming, and he presided over the scandal for virtually the entirety of his 28 year reign. JP II didn't merely ignore the problem, he  enabled it.  JP II's 1983 code of canon law revised the 1917 code, the result being that pederasts no longer had to be removed from the priesthood:

Canon 2359, pararaph 2 states: If they (clerics) have committed an offense against the sixth commandment with minors under sixteen years of age, or been guilty of adultery, rape, bestiality, sodomy, traffic in vice, or incest with blood-relatives or relations by marriage in the first degree, they shall be suspended, declared infamous, deprived of every office, benefice, dignity, or position that they may hold, and in more grievous cases they shall be deposed.
...
The Vatican II Church, however repealed this law with the 1983 Code of Canon Law, which states in Canon 1395, paragraph 2: A cleric who has offended in other ways against the sixth commandment of the Decalogue, if the crime was committed by force, or by threats, or in public, or with a minor under the age of sixteen years, is to be punished with just penalties, not excluding dismissal from the clerical state if the case so warrants.

Let us compare the two Canons:

1. The 1917 Code orders suspension, which forbids the exercise of Holy Orders, the 1983 Code does not.

2. The 1917 Code orders infamy, which is an irregularity, also forbidding the exercise of Orders, until absolved by the Pope, the 1983 Code is silent.

3. The 1917 Code orders deprivation of offices, which means that the priest will no longer be allowed in a parish, the 1983 Code makes no such provision.

4. Both the 1917 and 1983 Codes provide for deposition in more serious cases.

The big difference is that the pedophile may be kept in the priesthood, as has happened in the Vatican II Church, whereas in the Catholic Church he must be removed from the priesthood, no questions asked. Why did John Paul II remove this sanction from the Code of Canon Law? It certainly is not for the good of the Faithful to allow pedophiles to be retained in the priesthood, which is exactly what the 1983 Code of Canon Law permits. John Paul II only orders punishment with just penalties, whatever that may mean. Obviously the penalties were not sufficient to prevent recidivism!

When you consider that the Catholic Church has paid out billions of dollars for the pederasty scandal, keep in mind that the common law does not assign civil liability for the intentional torts of its employees.  In other words, while employers are responsible for the negligence of employees working in the course and scope of duty, intentional torts, like buggering a boy, are not the liability of the employer.

Why did the Catholic Church have to pay billions of dollars to the victims of buggery? How did the Church become liable?  The employer becomes liable through its own negligent hiring or negligent management. So if a priest has been found out as a pederast, and thereafter the bishop hides the priest by reassigning him; Or if a bishop hides a homosexual priest with knowledge that the priest has a history of buggery, then the Church becomes liable for subsequent buggery.

John Paul II was Pope for 28 years, yet this never seemed to penetrate his brain. It is even worse when one considers that a pope has much more power than an ordinary employer. What other employer can excommunicate his employees? 

Now the Vatican has declared JP II to be a saint, but I personally feel that this is more propaganda than anything else. There seems to be a determined effort on the part of the Vatican to canonize all the Vatican II popes. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Conclusion
I have only given a brief overview of the reign of John Paul II, and much remains to be said of his endless heresies against the Catholic Faith. My two main points were that JP II changed the way the Church looked at the Jews, exchanging the suffering of Christ on the Cross for that of the Jews in the Holohoax; and that JP II had presided over the worst scandal in the history of the Church.  He inherited a Church with a glorious 2,000 year history, and left behind an institution that was infamous for its "Pedophile Priests". 

Prophecy
"De Labore Solis" - (Of the Eclipse of the Sun)

When I first read about the prophecy of St Malachy, John Paul II was still the Pope, and the translation was rendered, "the work of the sun". This is the obvious translation that did not require even a semester of Latin, or even google translate.  The explanation was like most other interpretations of St Malcahy prophecies: superficial. John Paul II had traveled to more countries than any other previous pontiff.   

Pope John Paul II ("The Pilgrim Pope") made 104 foreign trips, more than all previous popes combined. In total he logged more than 1,167,000 km (725,000 mi)
wikipedia

So JP II traveled around the world.  Like the sun travels around the world. De labore Solis. Nothing to see here. Go home.

I am not well versed in Latin, so it wasn't until much later that I heard that "labore solis" means "eclipse of the sun".  This puts a completely different spin on the prophecy.  One important prophecy that this phrase brings to mind is the appearance of the Blessed Mother to some children in La Salette, France in 1846. The virgin appeared as a beautiful woman who was weeping, and told the children:

"The Church will be in eclipse, the world will be in dismay." http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1846sallette.asp

When I consider that John Paul II replaced the suffering of Christ on the Cross with that of the Jews in the imaginary holohoax, this metaphor of the Church being in eclipse seems quite appropriate.

There are several solar eclipses referred to in the Bible, referring to moments of doom. e.g. When Jesus was dying on the cross (Mt 27:45)

Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over the whole earth, until the ninth hour.

In the second chapter of Joel, the prophet talks about the the day of darkness 3 times. The chapter tells of an immense army that attacks and destroys everything, like an army of locusts.

I find that Joel 2 is closely referenced in Revelation 9

Joel 2: The prophet foretells the terrible day of the Lord; exhorts sinners to a sincere conversion; and comforts God's people with promises of future blessings under Christ.

[1] Blow ye the trumpet in Sion, sound an alarm in my holy mountain, let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: because the day of the Lord cometh, because it is nigh at hand,
[CM: Obviously a warning of the impending doom. (In light of the New Testament, we know that the OT references to Zion (Sion) are talking about the Church.) The third secret of Fatima?]
[2] A day of darkness, and of gloominess, a day of clouds and whirlwinds: a numerous and strong people as the morning spread upon the mountains: the like to it hath not been from the beginning, nor shall be after it even to the years of generation and generation.
[CM: The communist/Freemasonic/Jewish infiltration of the Church, and the wicked 2nd Vatican council?]
[3] Before the face thereof a devouring fire, and behind it a burning flame: the land is like a garden of pleasure before it, and behind it a desolate wilderness, neither is there any one that can escape it. [4] The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses, and they shall run like horsemen. [5] They shall leap like the noise of chariots upon the tops of mountains, like the noise of a flame of fire devouring the stubble, as a strong people prepared to battle.

[1] The day of the Lord: That is, the time when he will execute justice upon sinners.

[2] A numerous and strong people: The Assyrians, or Chaldeans. Others understand all this of an army of locusts laying waste the land.

[CM: The locust motif runs throughout this chapter. The locusts are devouring everything, similarly to the way the Pope John Paul II and the liberal bishops set about destroying all Catholic Tradition.]

[6] At their presence the people shall be in grievous pains: all faces shall be made like a kettle.

[CM: The Haydock annotation says that the Hebrews were dark complected, and so when they grew afraid, their faces turned black.]

[7] They shall run like valiant men: like men of war they shall scale the wall: the men shall march every one on his way, and they shall not turn aside from their ranks. [8] No one shall press upon his brother: they shall walk every one in his path: yea, and they shall fall through the windows, and shall take no harm. [9] They shall enter into the city: they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up the houses, they shall come in at the windows as a thief. [10] At their presence the earth hath trembled, the heavens are moved: the sun and moon are darkened, and the stars have withdrawn their shining.

[11] And the Lord hath uttered his voice before the face of his army: for his armies are exceeding great, for they are strong and execute his word: for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible: and who can stand it? [12] Now therefore saith the Lord: Be converted to me with all your heart, in fasting, and in weeping, and in mourning. [13] And rend your hearts, and not your garments, and turn to the Lord your God: for he is gracious and merciful, patient and rich in mercy, and ready to repent of the evil. [14] Who knoweth but he will return, and forgive, and leave a blessing behind him, sacrifice and libation to the Lord your God? [15] Blow the trumpet in Sion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly,
[This is also the message of Fatima: prayer and penance.]

[16] Gather together the people, sanctify the church, assemble the ancients, gather together the little ones, and them that suck at the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth from his bed, and the bride out of her bride chamber. [17] Between the porch and the altar the priests the Lord' s ministers shall weep, and shall say: Spare, O Lord, spare thy people: and give not thy inheritance to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them. Why should they say among the nations: Where is their God?

[CM: This phrase reminds me of when Jesus was rebuking the pharisees: (Mt 23:31-35) Wherefore you are witnesses against yourselves, that you are the sons of them that killed the prophets. [32] Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. [33] You serpents, generation of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of hell? [34] Therefore behold I send to you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them you will put to death and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city: [35] That upon you may come all the just blood that hath been shed upon the earth, from the blood of Abel the just, even unto the blood of Zacharias the son of Barachias, whom you killed between the temple and the altar.  So is this phrase referring to the persecution of the righteous priests and bishops from within the Church, and caused by the same Jews?]

[This phrase is also referenced in Ezekiel 8:16-17
"And he brought me into the inner court of the house of the Lord: and behold at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men having their backs towards the temple of the Lord, and their faces to the east: and they adored towards the rising of the sun. [17] And he said to me: Surely thou hast seen, O son of man: is this a light thing to the house of Juda, that they should commit these abominations which they have committed here: because they have filled the land with iniquity, and have turned to provoke me to anger? and behold they put a branch to their nose."

This is reminiscent of the liturgical changes after Vatican II, where the Novus Ordo Mass re-oriented the priest so that his back was to the Blessed Sacrament, and was instead facing the people. Liturgical abuses in the Novus Ordo Mass are infamously recorded on Traditional websites all over the net. -CM]

[18] The Lord hath been zealous for his land, and hath spared his people. [19] And the Lord answered and said to his people: Behold I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and you shall be filled with them: and I will no more make you a reproach among the nations. [20] And I will remove far off from you the northern enemy: and I will drive him into a land unpassable, and desert, with his face towards the east sea, and his hinder part towards the utmost sea: and his stench shall ascend, and his rottenness shall go up, because he hath done proudly.

[20] The northern enemy: Some understand this of Holofernes and his army: others, of the locusts.

[21] Fear not, O land, be glad and rejoice: for the Lord hath done great things. [22] Fear not, ye beasts of the fields: for the beautiful places of the wilderness are sprung, for the tree hath brought forth its fruit, the fig tree, and the vine have yielded their strength.

[CM: Once again we see that the fig tree, i.e. the Jewish hand, has made an appearance. 

--But notice that Joel is promising that there will be a renewal after this great destruction. The Haydock commentary says that this was only to come after the 70 years of Captivity.]

[23] And you, O children of Sion, rejoice, and be joyful in the Lord your God: because he hath given you a teacher of justice, and he will make the early and the latter rain to come down to you as in the beginning. [24] And the floors shall be filled with wheat, and the presses shall overflow with wine and oil. [25] And I will restore to you the years which the locust, and the bruchus, and the mildew, and the palmerworm have eaten; my great host which I sent upon you.

[26] And you shall eat in plenty, and shall be filled: and you shall praise the name of the Lord your God, who hath done wonders with you, and my people shall not be confounded for ever. [27] And you shall know that I am in the midst of Israel: and I am the Lord your God, and there is none besides: and my people shall not be confounded for ever. [28] And it shall come to pass after this, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy: your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions. [29] Moreover upon my servants and handmaids in those days I will pour forth my spirit. [30] And I will shew wonders in heaven; and in earth, blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke.

[31] The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood: before the great and dreadful day of the Lord doth come. [32] And it shall come to pass, that every one that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved: for in mount Sion, and in Jerusalem shall be salvation, as the Lord hath said, and in the residue whom the Lord shall call."

There are a lot of cross-references to the 9th Chapter of the Apocalypse that signal a great apostasy:

Locusts come from the bottomless pit: the vision of the army of horsemen.

1 And the fifth Angel sounded the trumpet: and I saw a star fall from heaven upon the earth, and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

[Notes From Haydock: "This trumpet begins with announcing to us the fall of a star from heaven; a very just emblem of the apostacy of Luther [or John Paul II], who in quality of a priest and religious man is styled a star, but renouncing his faith and vows, may truly be said to have fallen from heaven upon the earth. ]

2 And he opened the bottomless pit: and the smoke of the pit ascended as the smoke of a great furnace: and the sun was darkened, and the air, with the smoke of the pit.

[Notes From Haydock: The sun was darkened, &c. The light of faith, which is the word of God, may well be represented by the sun, according to that of the Psalm cxviii. 105., "Thy word, O Lord, is a lamp to my feet, and a light to my paths." And as the air is the spring of man's respiration and life, it may be a just type of morality, which gives spiritual life and worth to all human actions. By the sun, therefore, and air being darkened, we are to understand faith and morality obscured and perverted by the novel doctrines of the reformers. ]

3 And from the smoke of the pit there came out locusts upon the earth, and power was given to them, as the scorpions of the earth have power:

[Notes From Haydock: "Others again, by locusts, understand heretics, and especially those heretics that spring from the Jews, and with them denied the divinity of our Saviour Christ, as Theodotus, Praxeas, Noetus, Paul of Samosata, Sabellius, Arius, &c. These were the great enemies of Christian religion, and instruments of the devil: they tormented and infected the souls of men, stinging them like scorpions with the poison of their heresies.
...
The locusts are commonly understood of heretics. They are not able to hurt the green tree; that is, such as have a lively faith, working by charity; but only the reprobate.
...
Heretics are compared to locusts, says St. Jerome, because they are a species of insects extremely hurtful to mankind, as they occasion famine, eat up the harvest, and even strip the trees and the vines. "

I think that I am not out of line for saying that this army of locusts represents a great apostasy.- CM]

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, nor any green thing, nor any tree: but only the men who have not the sign of God on their foreheads:

5 And it was given to them that they should not kill them; but that they should torment them five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion when he striketh a man.

6 *And in those days men shall seek death, and shall not find it: and they shall desire to die, and death shall fly from them.

7 *And the shapes of the locusts were like to horses prepared for battle; and on their heads as it were crowns like gold: and their faces were as the faces of men.

8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions:

[Faces of men, but hair like women. Sounds like an army of homosexuals. Pederasts. --CM]

9 And they had breastplates, as breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was as the noise of chariots of many horses running to battle:

10 And they had tails like scorpions, and stings were in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months:

Addendum - Ipse Dixit
John Paul II: New World Order

John Paul II: "We Will Destroy the Program"

Benedict XVI (2005-)
Number 111 on the list is Joseph Ratzinger: De Gloria Olivae - The Glory of the Olive or "To the Olive"

I could say some positive things about the Reign of Pope Benedict XVI, and I could say some negative things.

On the negative side, B XVI, like Wojtyla, was an participant in the heretical 2nd Vatican Council and continued to preach the conciliar heresies. http://www.patrickpollock.com/101heresiesofbenedictxvitract2.html   
Most notably, B XVI continued with the heresy of Nostra Aetata that the Jews are not responsible for Jesus' death.  http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/02/pope-exonerates-jews-jesus-death-new-book/
St Paul thought otherwise.

1Thess2:15-16Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men;

[16] Prohibiting us to speak to the Gentiles, that they may be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath of God is come upon them to the end.

While B XVI did not go as far into heresy as JP II went in telling the Jews that the Old Covenant was valid (L _ Osservatore Romano, Dec. 9, 1980, p. 6.), he did say speak of

the solidarity which binds the Church to the Jewish people  "at the level of their spiritual identity", which offers Christians the opportunity to promote  "a renewed respect for the Jewish interpretation of the Old Testament."
L'Osservatore Romano, January 20, 2010, pp. 6-7.

Benedict XVI visited a synagogue, and the Holohoax Museum at Aschwitz:

"... the shock of the Shoah has put the whole question under a new light ... Can Christians, after all that has happened, still claim in good conscience to be the legitimate heirs of Israel's Bible? Have they the right to propose a Christian interpretation of this Bible, or should they not instead, respectfully and humbly, renounce any claim that, in the light of what has happened, must look like a usurpation?" (Joseph Ratzinger, The Jewish People and their Sacred Scripture in the Christian Bible May 24, 2001)
http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html

"the rulers of the Third Reich wanted to crush the entire Jewish people", and essentially,  "by wiping out this people, they intended to kill the God who called Abraham, who spoke on Sinai and laid down principles to serve as a guide for mankind

It's strange how the Popes have gone from proclaiming the Truth that the Jews killed God, to preaching that the Germans tried to kill God by killing the Jews!

This lickspittle attitude towards the Jews reached new heights under B XVI, in the Bp Williamson affair. Very briefly, B XVI had lifted the excommunications of the traditional SSPX society of priests. But shortly thereafter, a video was released online where SSPX Bp Williamson had denied the official story of the holohoax. In this day where everyone is fearful of the Jews, the Bp Williamson was drummed out of the SSPX, and the Vatican published a letter saying that Williamson would not be admitted back as a Catholic Bishop until he acknowledged the Holohoax:

3. Statements about the Shoah-

The positions of Bishop Williamson with regard to the Shoah are absolutely unacceptable and firmly rejected by the Holy Father, as he himself remarked on 28 January 2009 when, with reference to the heinous genocide, he reiterated his full and unquestionable solidarity with our brothers and sisters who received the First Covenant, and he affirmed that the memory of that terrible genocide must lead  "humanity to reflect upon the unfathomable power of evil when it conquers the heart of man", adding that the Shoah remains  "a warning for all against forgetfulness, denial or reductionism, because violence against one single human being is violence against all".  In order to be admitted to function as a Bishop within the Church, Bishop Williamson must also distance himself in an absolutely unequivocal and public way from his positions regarding the Shoah, which were unknown to the Holy Father at the time of the remission of the excommunication.
http://www.fisheaters.com/forums/index.php?topic=3446789.0

It's a very odd state of affairs today, when priest and bishops will preach all sorts of heresies, or practice homosexuality.  But don't you dare question the Shoa!  That is where the Vatican II Popes draw the line.

Good Things
On the other hand, B XVI did some good things also.  Despite being an avowed liberal in the days of the 1st Vatican Council, B XVI became something of a traditionalist in his later years. As the early traditionalist priest, Father Gommar De Pauw, described him, Ratzinger was an arsonist turned fireman.  http://www.latinmass-ctm.org/ctmnews/September2013.htm

Benedict published the "Summorum Pontificum" which made it possible to celebrate the traditional Latin Mass without special permission. http://latinmass.com/motopropriolatinmass.html

B XVI published a corrected version of the "Novus Ordo" Mass which removed some notable heresies. e.g. Prior to this change, the Novos Ordo Missal had the priest recounting that Jesus shed his blood "for all", when in the Bible it says "for many". [The post-Vatican II change curiously fits with the notion of "Universal Salvation", which was formerly a heresy, but repeatedly taught by JP II. The Vatican said that the errors in the Mass were the result of a bad translation.]

One of the first things Bendict XVI did as Pope was to publish a letter in 2005 telling the bishops that they were not permitted to let homosexuals into the seminary. http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccatheduc/documents/rc_con_ccatheduc_doc_20051104_istruzione_en.html

I remember going to mass in 2005 and hearing the effete pastor going into a hissy fit over this. (He quit the priesthood soon after.  Thanks Benedict!)

As I mentioned above, B XVI lifted the excommunications of the SSPX.  (The SSPX took a stand against the heresies of Vatican II, and refused to budge on the traditional faith. The SSPX leader, Archbishop Lefebreve was excommunicated by JP II for consecrating four Bishops back in 1988.)

Resignation
Benedict XVI resigned from being the Pope on February 11, 2013. And then lightning struck St Peter's Basilica in the Vatican. http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/13/lightning-strikes-st-peters-basilica-the-day-pope-benedict-xvi-resigns/
Pope Benedict was the first to abdicate the papacy since Pope Gregory XII in 1415. 

Being the pope is usually a job you have until you die. That is why there aren't a lot of retired popes.   But B XVI retired, and so a lot of people thought that the Pope's worsening health and advanced age were not the real reason.

Early on in B XVI's pontificate, he asked people to "Pray for me, that I may not flee for fear of the wolves." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1746903/posts
There was some talk that B XIV was not well respected by the Bishops. Were the liberals upset that B XVI wouldn't let any more homos in the seminaries, and was moving back towards tradition?

Here was a video of a German visit where some German Bishops appear to be snubbing the Pope:

Perhaps a more telling incident occurred when SSPX Bishop Fellay visited with B XVI:

During an audience with the Pope, Bishop Fellay found himself alone with the Pope for a moment.  His Excellency seized the opportunity to remind the Pope that he is the Vicar of Christ, possessed of the authority to take immediate measures to end the crisis in the Church on all fronts. The Pope replied thus:  "My authority ends at that door."
http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/Archives/2012-0615-ferrara-vatileaks.htm

The Prophecy
De Gloria Olivae - The Glory of the Olive or "To the Olive"

I looked this up in the Latin Vulgate, and I got a very telling story from Judges:

Judges  9    
Abimelech killeth his brethren. Joatham's parable. Gaal conspireth with the Sichemites against Abimelech, but is overcome. Abimelech destroyeth Sichem: but is killed at Thebes.

[1] And Abimelech the son of Jerobaal went to Sichem to his mother' s brethren and spoke to them, and to all the kindred of his mother' s father, saying: [2] Speak to all the men of Sichem: whether is better for you that seventy men all the sons of Jerobaal should rule over you, or that one man should rule over you? And withal consider that I am your bone, and your flesh. [3] And his mother' s brethren spoke of him to all the men of Sichem, all these words, and they inclined their hearts after Abimelech, saying: He is our brother: [4] And they gave him seventy weight of silver out of the temple of Baalberith: wherewith he hired to himself men that were needy, and vagabonds, and they followed him. [5] And he came to his father' s house in Ephra, and slew his brethren the sons of Jerobaal, seventy men, upon one stone: and there remained only Joatham the youngest son of Jerobaal, who was hidden.

[4] Baalberith: That is, Baal of the covenant, so called from the covenant they had made with Baal, chap. 8. 33.

[CM: This can be seen as a prophecy concerning the destruction of the Church following Vatican II: false worship (Baal); slaughter of the sons of Jerobaal, (Gideon), which represents the destruction of the traditional Catholic priesthood.]

[6] And all the men of Sichem were gathered together, and all the families of the city of Mello: and they went and made Abimelech king, by the oak that stood in Sichem. [7] This being told to Joatham, he went and stood on the top of mount Garizim: and lifting up his voice, he cried, and said: Hear me, ye men of Sichem, so may God hear you. [8] The trees went to anoint a king over them: and they said to the olive tree: Reign thou over us. [9] And it answered: Can I leave my fatness, which both gods and men make use of, to come to be promoted among the trees?

[9] Both gods and men make use of: The olive tree is introduced, speaking in this manner, because oil was used both in the worship of the true God, and in that of the false gods, whom the Sichemites served.

[CM: Here we find "the Glory of the Olive" - It is the oil that was used for the worship of God.  Note that this oil is used for both true and false worship, which is similar to the heresies and liturgical abuses that have abounded in the Conciliar Church.

This is the Crux of the Prophecy: the trees chose the Olive Tree to rule over them, but the Olive declined. This is what Benedict did when he resigned from the Papacy.]

[10] And the trees said to the fig tree: Come thou and reign over us.

[CM: Again with the Fig Tree! The fig tree is turning up very regularly in these end times prophecies. Of course this can be seen as the controlling hand of the Jews.]

[11] And it answered them: Can I leave my sweetness, and my delicious fruits, and go to be promoted among the other trees? [12] And the trees said to the vine: Come thou and reign over us. [13] And it answered them: Can I forsake my wine, that cheereth God and men, and be promoted among the other trees? [14] And all the trees said to the bramble: Come thou and reign over us. [15] And it answered them: If indeed you mean to make me king, come ye and rest under my shadow: but if you mean it not, let fire come out from the bramble, and devour the cedars of Libanus.

[13] Cheereth God and men: Wine is here represented as agreeable to God, because he had appointed it to be offered up with his sacrifices. But we are not obliged to take these words, spoken by the trees, in Joatham's parable, according to the strict literal sense: but only in a sense accommodated to the design of the parable expressed in the conclusion of it.

[CM: I don't know how closely this parable is meant to describe our current predicament. After the Olive comes the Fig, the Vine, and then the Bramble. Does this mean that there will be 3 popes after B XVI? Or do we jump straight to the Bramble?  The Bramble does not seem to bode well...]

[16] Now therefore if you have done well, and without sin in appointing Abimelech king over you, and have dealt well with Jerobaal, and with his house, and have made a suitable return for the benefits of him, who fought for you, [17] And exposed his life to dangers, to deliver you from the hands of Madian,

[CM: Jerobaal or Gideon, had delivered the people from the Midianites, and now they had slain all of his descendants, save one. This is similar to the rejection of the Traditional Mass and priesthood.]

[18] And you are now risen up against my father' s house, and have killed his sons seventy men upon one stone, and have made Abimelech the son of his handmaid king over the inhabitants of Sichem, because he is your brother: [19] If therefore you have dealt well, and without fault with Jerobaal, and his house, rejoice ye this day in Abimelech, and may he rejoice in you. [20] But if unjustly: let fire come out from him, and consume the inhabitants of Sichem, and the town of Mello: and let fire come out from the men of Sichem, and from the town of Mello, and devour Abimelech.

[CM: Was Vatican II just or unjust? Was the election of B XVI's successor valid or invalid? This parable seems to prophecy a bad result.]

[21] And when he had said thus he fled, and went into Bera: and dwelt there for fear of Abimelech his brother. [22] So Abimelech reigned over Israel for three years.

... [CM: For brevity's sake: And the Lord sent a very evil spirit between Abimelech and the inhabitants of Sichem: who began to detest him, &And Gaal the son of Obed came with his brethren, and went over to Sichem &. And Gaal the son of Obed cried: Who is Abimelech, and what is Sichem, that we should serve him?  &Abimelech therefore arose with all his army by night, and laid ambushes near Sichem in four places.  &So Gaal went out in the sight of the people of Sichem, and fought against Abimelech, Who chased and put him to flight,  &and many were slain of his people, even to the gate of the city &

And Abimelech sat down in Ruma: And Abimelech assaulted the city all that day: and took it, and killed the inhabitants thereof, and demolished it, so that he sowed salt in it. & Abimelech also hearing that the men of the tower of Sichem were gathered together, Went up into mount Selmon he and all his people with him: and taking an axe, he cut down the bough of a tree,  & So they cut down boughs from the trees, every man as fast as he could, and followed their leader. And surrounding the fort they set it on fire: and  & a thousand persons were killed, men and women together, of the inhabitants of the tower of Sichem.  Then Abimelech departing from thence came to the town of Thebes, which he surrounded and besieged with his army.]

[51] And there was in the midst of the city a high tower, to which both the men and the women were fled together, and all the princes of the city, and having shut and strongly barred the gate, they stood upon the battlements of the tower to defend themselves. [52] And Abimelech coming near the tower, fought stoutly: and approaching to the gate, endeavoured to set fire to it: [53] And behold a certain woman casting a piece of a millstone from above, dashed it against the head of Abimelech, and broke his skull.

[CM: This coincides with the prophecy of Fatima. The Blessed Mother said that "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will triumph."  If Abimalech is a type representing the anti-Christ or someone similar, he is defeated by a woman. cf Genesis 3:15

I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

][/b]

[54] And he called hastily to his armourbearer, and said to him: Draw thy sword, and kill me: lest it should be said that I was slain by a woman. He did as he was commanded, and slew him. [55] And when he was dead, all the men of Israel that were with him, returned to their homes.

[56] And God repaid the evil, that Abimelech had done against his father, killing his seventy brethren. [57] The Sichemites also were rewarded for what they had done, and the curse of Joatham the son of Jerobaal came upon them.

Jean-Paul I as a Measuring Life?
Was the resignation of B XVI valid? If not, then then the next Pope is not a valid Pope. Without meaning to be too positivistic, I found an interesting correspondence between the short reign of JP I and the subsequent Papacies of JP II and B XVI.

JP I was elected on Saturday, August 26, 1978. Up to  (To and including his last day, Thursday, September 28, 1978, that is a total of 34 days. 

John Paul II was elected on Monday, October 16, 1978.  Benedict XVI resigned on Monday, February 11, 2013: a total of 34 years, 3 months, 27 days. 

JP I took the name "John Paul" in honor of his predecessors, John XXIII and Paul VI, the architects of Vatican II. The name "John Paul" in that context could be seen as a symbol of Vatican II Popes. 

Pope Francis
Jorge Mario Bergoglio was elected Pope on March 13, 2014.
Prophecy: Petrus Romanus (Peter Roman)

General Disappointment
The media initially reported that Pope Francis was some sort of a "traditional" bishop. I don't know of anyone who considers Francis the very least bit traditional. His Papacy promises to be one of general disappointment and failure. And more sucking up to the Jews.

Evangeli Gaudium
Francis did not disappoint his Conciliar forebears by jumping out the box with an extremely long and heretical 'apostolic exhortation', "Evangeli Gaudium".  The stand-out portion is #247:

We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked _.

A number of traditionalists flipped out when they read this. Fr Paul Kramer, who had long forgiven the blatant heresies of JP II, had had enough of Francis:

This text is an explicit profession of heresy, directly opposed to the solemn dogmatic definition of Pope Eugenius III and the Ecumenical Council of Florence, and the doctrine taught by the supreme magisterium of Pope Benedict XIV in Ex Quo Primum, set forth repeatedly and explicitly citing the definition of Florence, to wit, that the Mosaic covenant has been  _revoked _ and  _abrogated _.

I have been saying for years that when a  _pope _ will officially teach explicit and clear heresy flatly contradicting the infallibly defined dogma of the Catholic faith, then you will know that he is the false pope prophesied in many Church approved prophecies and Marian apparitions. St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Alohonsus Liguori, St. Antoninus and Pope Innocent III all teach that when the pope demonstrates himself to be a manifest heretic, i.e. a plainly manifested public heretic, he ceases to be pope (or, if already was a public heretic he was invalidly elected) because he is not a Catholic  _ not a member of the Catholic Church. Bellarmine explains that the Roman Pontiff is the visible head of the Church, and the head is a member. One who is not a member cannot be the head, and therefore the election to the supreme pontificate of a public heretic is canonically null & void.

The heresy of Bergoglio in no. 247 is such a clear cut case of manifest, public heresy, expressed in stark, unequivocal terms, that it can be said without doubt that if this proposition of no. 247 is not manifestly heretical, then nothing else can be said to be so. It is morally impossible that one who manifestly displays such clearly expressed contempt for a defined dogma of faith by plainly denying it, can be believed to validly hold the office of Roman Pontiff. St. Francis of Assisi foretold of the uncanonically elected pope who would not be  _a true pastor but a destroyer _. Bergoglio plainly fits the description. _

The prophecy that Fr Kamer was referring to was this one:

Prophecy of St Francis of Assisi

Shortly before he died, St. Francis of Assisi called together his followers and warned them of the coming troubles, saying..."Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor, but a destroyer."
--Works of the Seraphic Father St. Francis Of Assisi, Washbourne, 1882, pp. 248-250

Francis has only been Pope (or anti-pope) for about a year and a half, but already he is famous for making plainly un-Catholic statements to the press.  In the line of Vatican II Popes, Francis is already out front for being the most heretical.  He has made comments showing favoritism towards homosexuality, atheism, communism....
http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/anti-pope-francis/#.VBDnyucmYy4

Heresy
I won't waste any more time going over these statements.  As one traditionalist friend told me the other day: the sedevacantist argument is looking more and more correct.

The crux of that argument comes down to whether the Pope is a heretic. If he is a heretic, then he can't be the Pope.  But who can judge the Pope?

Clearly, Francis says heretical things. That is called material, or objective heresy. When someone clings to the wrong belief even when he knows that this belief is contrary to what the Church teaches, this is formal heresy.

Because no one can judge the Pope, some say that a pope cannot be judged a pope unless he is a formal heretic.  That would require the Pope saying something like: "The Church teaches X, but I say Y."  So far Francis has not done this.  But after this long line of heresies coming out of Rome, I can hardly blame a sincere Catholic for believing that the Pope is no longer the Pope.

Prophecy
This is the last name on the list, and as you shall see, the prophecy is quite a bit longer than all of the others. 
In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit [.?] Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis ciuitas septicollis diruetur, et Iudex tremendus iudicabit populum. Finis.
(In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations; when they are over, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the terrible/fearsome Judge will judge his people. The End.) Most scholars believe that this prophecy was added at a later date. It can be noted that this pope had explicitly not been numbered (as he would have been #112)

As would be expected in a longer prophecy, there are some discrepancies between the various copies. As noted above, the oldest known copy is from a work called, "Lignum Vitae, ornamentum et decus Ecclesiae" by Arnold Wion in 1595. A subsequent work, ("Florilegium Insulae Sanctorem" by Messingham) copied the prophecy from Wion, but removed most of the punctuation.  Wion arranges things so that each of the previous two-word prophecies ends with a period, and the next prophecy starts on the next line.  If we stick to that protocol, the first sentence is set off from the rest of the paragraphs, with a dramatically different interpretation.



In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit [.?]
In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church [Sancta Romana Ecclesia] he will sit.

Who will sit? Well the person sitting has either not yet been named, or it it referring to a previously named person. SRE can either mean "Sancta Romana Ecclesia", "Most Holy Roman Church"; or "Sanctae Romanae Ecclesia", "of the Most Holy Roman Church". 

Since SRE is abbreviated, it is impossible to tell definitively which case it is.  It makes sense that that the Church will go through persecution, and that the person sitting will be "Gloria Olivae".  That would mean that Benedict XVI is still the Pope, and Francis could be the anti-pope, ("not a true pastor, but a destroyer") predicted by St. Francis.

The prophecy continues:
Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis ciuitas septicollis diruetur, et Iudex tremendus iudicabit populum. Finis.
Peter the Roman will feed the sheep through many tribulations; when they are over, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the terrible or fearsome Judge will judge his people. The End.)

"Peter the Roman", in this context, could be a generic term for all the Popes. Consider this: If I say that Peter will feed his sheep through many tribulations, and then I say, "when "they" are over", they should mean that the tribulations are over, right? But if Rome is destroyed and the terrible/fearsome judge will judge his people, doesn't that count as a tribulation?  So if "they" refers to "tribulations", then the how can they be said to be "over" right before those major tribulations?

On the other hand, if "Peter the Roman" means "the pope", then "they" are over when the line of succession is finished.  Of course, the problem with this is that "Petrus Romanus" is not plural.  But its meaning could be hidden in this way, and it seems to have worked very well.  "Peter the Roman" would apply to all the popes; the office is the bishop of Rome. All of the Popes are successors to Peter; therefore "Peter the Roman". This paragraph comes at the end of the long line of successors. "They" would refer to that long line.

Septicollis means "city of seven hills" (google translator says "steep-hilled" city.) Rome has long been known as the city of seven hills. Jerusalem was also known as the seven hilled city.

When the line of successors is over, the seven hilled city will be destroyed.

And just to confuse things a little more, there is yet another prophecy that was made by Pope St Pius X:

Vision of Pius X
During an audience for the general chapter of the Franciscan order in 1909, the pontiff appeared to enter a trance. Those present remained motionless and silent. After a few moments, Pius opened his eyes, rose from his seat, and cried, "What I have seen is terrifying! Will I be the one, or will it be a successor? What is certain is that the Pope will leave Rome and, in leaving the Vatican, he will have to pass over the dead bodies of his priests!" He then cautioned the witnesses, "Do not tell anyone this while I am alive."

Just before his death, Pius had another vision. "I have seen one of my successors, of the same name, who was fleeing over the bodies of his brethren. He will take refuge in some hiding place; but after a brief respite, he will die a cruel death. This perversity is nothing less than the beginning of the last days of the world."

Note: Pius X's fist name was Giuseppe which is a form of Joseph (Josef Ratzinger perhaps?)
http://www.fisheaters.com/forums/index.php?topic=3456963.0

This vision coincides with the part of the Third Secret of Fatima that has been released by the Vatican (there is still another section that has been covered up to this day):

"After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: 'Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: 'something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White 'we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God. "
http://defeatmodernism.com/defeatmodernism/piusxbenedictxvi

These prophecies would all coincide if Rome was destroyed, and then Ratzinger left the city, stepping over the bodies of corpses.  Notice also that the children saw a Bishop in white and "had the impression that it was the Holy Father". That is the same impression we have today: we see Ratzinger, who is still dressed in white, and is the Bishop emeritus of Rome. 

Judex Tremedus/Tremendus
In the Wion version, the word is "tremedus" (there is a break between lines, but with no hyphens: tre  medus; there appears to be a diacritical breve mark over the e?);
"tremedus" is does not appear to be a word; "tremendus" means "fearful".

If Francis is not Petrus Romanus, could he be Judex Tremedus?

Here is another take that also says these last few lines point to more than one pope:

http://www.1260.org/Mary/Vatican/Vatican_Last_Pontificate_2032_en.htm
Two more Popes after Benedict XVI

Practically all commentators agree that the current Pope Benedict XVI corresponds to the 111th motto lat. «Gloria Oliuae».

Let us carefully consider the last two paragraphs of the Latin text of the prophecy:

lat. In psecutione extrema S.R.E. ſedebit.
eng. In the extreme persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit.

lat. Petrus Romanus, qui paſcet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus tranſactis ciuitas ſepticollis diruetur, & Iudex tremẽdus iudicabit populum ſuum. Finis.
eng. Peter the Roman, who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations; when they are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The end.

Often these two paragraphs are combined together as the prophecy of the last Pope Petrus Romanus:

«In the extreme persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations: and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the terrible judge will judge his people. The End.»

However it is more appropriate to think of these two paragraphs as representing two separate mottos corresponding to two last popes. The reasons for this are as follows:
1) There is a period [.] at the end of the first sentence that makes a statement: «In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit.» It is not correct to read here: «...will sit Petrus Romanus». Similarly, every previous motto has a period at the end, i.e. every previous motto is a complete sentence.
2) Each of two last prophecies — «In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit.» and «Petrus Romanus, qui paſcet oues...» — makes a separate paragraph. Similarly, every motto makes a separate paragraph. The only difference is that the first 111 mottos are sufficiently short to fit in a single line. Each one of the two last mottos is longer than a single line, so the paragraph's feature is obvious here. «Lignum Vitae» uses a hanging indent, i.e. indents the rest of the text while leaving the first line in place.

The Last Day of the Last Pontificate
There exists another fascinating hypothesis. The phrase «Axle in the midst of a sign» (lat. «Axis in medietate ſigni»), which describes the pontificate of Sixtus V, can be interpreted as pointing out the exact middle of the reign of all the Popes described in the prophecy. In support of such a thesis we have the claim of Jean-Paul Cleber (Clébert, Jean-Paul, Prophéties de Nostradamus, 2003) which states that in the dictionaries of XVI century the Latin word for «sign» could also mean «prophecy». So, the phrase «Axis in medietate ſigni» could be translated as the «Axis of the middle of the prophecy».

Using this, let us attempt to compute the time of the end of the Prophecy of the Popes:

The pontificate of Celestine II, the first Pope of the prophecy, began on September 26, 1143. The papacy of Sixtus V began on April 24, 1585 and ended on August 27, 1590. The middle of his reign falls on December 25, 1587. We are going to consider this date as the «Axis of the middle of the prophecy». Between September 26, 1143 and December 25, 1587 there are 162251 days. If we add as many days to December 25, 1587, we arrive at Thursday, March 18, 2032.

Therefore, Thursday, March 18, 2032 must be the last day of the pontificate of the last Pope.

It is interesting to note that from September 26, 1143 to March 18, 2032 there will pass 888 years and 174 days. The gematria of the name Jesus, «Ιησους», makes up the number
888 = (Ι=10) + (η=8) + (σ=200) + (ο=70) + (υ=400) + (σ=200).

That post got a little positivistic at the end, so I'm sorry about that. But I wanted to cover all the bases.

That just about sums up my thoughts on the subject. I know that the last Pope was not very conclusive, but I find that these prophecies seem to come out a lot clearer after the fact.

One last note: the presence of a Pope on the list does NOT prove that he is a legitimate Pope. There are several popes mentioned by St Malachy that the Church has proclaimed to be anti-popes: Victor IV, Paschal III, Calistus III, Nicholas V, Clement VII, Benedict XIII, Clement VIII, Alexander V, John XXIII (the first one), and Felix V.

[yankeedoodle]

Starting from this premise, these holy and spotless victims seem perfectly justified in preventing another 6 trillion of their very special race from being gassed, lampshaded, made into soap, shampoo and cream rinse, electrified, buried and dug up and gassed again for good measure.

This argument that blamed Catholic dogma for the holohoax was made into a book, Jesus and Israel, by a French Jew Jules Isaac. The book managed to convince some Catholic clergy of this fault in their faith, among them Father Paul Demann, a Hungarian Jew convert, and Father Gregory Baum, an Augustinian priest who was born an Orthodox Jew.   

Quote
"After Auschwitz the Christian churches no longer wish to convert the Jews. While they may not be sure of the theological grounds that dispense them from this mission, the churches have become aware that asking the Jews to become Christians is a spiritual way of blotting them out of existence and thus only reinforces the effects of the Holocaust. The churches, moreover, realize the deadly irony implicit in a Christian plea for the conversion of the Jews; for after Auschwitz and the participation of the nations, it is the Christian world that is in need of conversion." -- Fr Gregory Baum, in Auschwitz: Beginning of a New Era?, edited by  Eva Fleischner

Isaac's book managed to get him an audience at the Vatican, which led to his meeting with Cardinal Augustin Bea, a German Jesuit.  The "Look" magazine story notes that Bea's staff included Msgr. John Oesterreicher, a former zionist Jew who converted to Catholicism.  The Cairo daily, Al Gomhuria, had even claimed that Cardinal Bea was a Jew, whose original family name was Behar. Pope John XXIII gave Cardinal Bea the charge of a special ecumenical committee whose purpose was to formulate a statement condemning anti-semitism. In the coming months, Bea met with various Jewish representatives from the ADL and the Jewish Theological Seminary, and also held a secret meeting at the offices of the American Jewish Committee.

Seems that conversion was a bad idea long before Auschwitz, because the "converts" seem to have done the converting, and now the only thing that ordinary people know about what the Bible says about the jews is that God chose them and gave Palestine to them.

Yankee Doodle knows little or nothing about religion, but he seems to remember seeing a documentary about the Spanish Inquisition on PBS - made by a jew, he seems to remember - that said that the Inquisition did not focus on jews, but, rather, focused on those jews who professed to have "converted", but did not.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Seems that conversion was a bad idea long before Auschwitz, because the "converts" seem to have done the converting, and now the only thing that ordinary people know about what the Bible says about the jews is that God chose them and gave Palestine to them.

Yankee Doodle knows little or nothing about religion, but he seems to remember seeing a documentary about the Spanish Inquisition on PBS - made by a jew, he seems to remember - that said that the Inquisition did not focus on jews, but, rather, focused on those jews who professed to have "converted", but did not.

Yes, the apostatizing Jew is a common hazard, and a real threat to the unwary. Fr Feeney wrote an article in his newspaper "The Point" back in 1957:

A "salutary constraint" we would immediately suggest imposing on the current contingent of Jews-in-the-Church is to deny them publishing privileges.

Somewhere, even in the United States, there may be a Jewish convert who has not written a book or been interviewed for a magazine; but we have not encountered him. Most of the clan cannot wait for the waters of baptism to dry upon their heads before they scurry to their typewriters. And what is the message they are so frantic to communicate? A public renunciation of Judaism with all its works and pomps? A promise to break swiftly and cleanly with their perfidious past? Never. Their anxiety is prompted by a single consideration: they want it understood that, in becoming Catholics, they are in no sense abandoning Jewry; that they who have just accepted the Messias feel still inseparably bound to those who reject Him. Nightclub-entertainer Lillian Roth, whose conversion to the Church was so nationally exploited, puts it neatly: "I will always be a Jew, no matter what faith I follow."

It is precisely this attitude that has made the Church always uneasy about Jewish converts: this insistence on thinking — and acting — not as members of the Mystical Body of Christ, but as members of the anti-Christian, unregenerate Jewish race. Indeed, these converts commonly justify their becoming Catholics on the score that it helps them to realize more fully their Jewishness. And the more deeply they penetrate into the Church's life, the more Jewish they apparently become. A startling (but representative) indication of the Jewish convert's scale of values is the statement of Father Ambrose Schaeffer, O.S.B., reported in a Catholic magazine: "I feel that I'm a better Jew now that I'm a priest."

[Idaho Kid]

Very interesting info, Marlowe.  Thanks.  Why convert Jews were ever permitted to do more than attend church remains a mystery. 

[rmstock]

Jim Condit Jr. mentioned in a 2007 radio interview how at the 1958 Conclave white smoke turned
black again on October 26, 1958 as evening fell :

Former 'Jesuit' Fr. Malachi Martin
http://crashrecovery.org/jesuit/#malachi



Does the Prophecy of St Malachy mention something about this white smoke turning black again event ?

[Christopher Marlowe]

The prophecy itself is only two word phrases describing each Pope. Pius XII was "Angelic Shepherd", and John XXIII was "Pastor et Nauta".  All the rest of that blog is my application of that scripture suggested by the two word phrases.  I looked at the Book of Amos which corresponded to Pius XII, and I didn't see anything about smoke.

Pope John XXIII was supposed to reveal the 3rd Secret of Fatima in 1960, but did not. Sister Lucia, who had received the 3rd from the Blessed Mother, said that it corresponded to Revelation 8-12. Remember that the largest earthquake in history occurred in 1960, which was two years after Pius XII died, and that the Book of Amos said that his visions were received 2 years before the earthquake. 

It stands to reason that if the 3rd Secret deals with Rev 8-12, then Rev 8 would be in the time of John XXIII. Looking at Revelation 8:1-5, I see this:

And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven, as it were for half an hour. [2] And I saw seven angels standing in the presence of God; and there were given to them seven trumpets. [3] And another angel came, and stood before the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given to him much incense, that he should offer of the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar, which is before the throne of God. [4] And the smoke of the incense of the prayers of the saints ascended up before God from the hand of the angel. [5] And the angel took the censer, and filled it with the fire of the altar, and cast it on the earth, and there were thunders and voices and lightnings, and a great earthquake.

I don't understand most of Revelation. There is silence in heaven after the seventh seal is broken. In Chapter 6 there were six seals that were already broken, and each one brought some sort of calamity. Chapter 7 takes a pause from seal breaking, and St John has a vision of a multitude that are dressed in white robes. He is told that (7:14) "These are they who are come out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and have made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

So the point of this calamity and suffering is to earn a place near to God in heaven. The faithful do this by offering prayer and sacrifice.

At the beginning of Revelation Chapter 8, the 7th seal is broken, and heaven is silent. What form will the next calamity take?
There is an Angel with "a golden censer; and there was given to him much incense, that he should offer of the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar, which is before the throne of God."  If the censor is being used to offer up the prayers of the saints, then that is like the function of the Church. The people go to Mass and offer up their lives and receive the Holy Eucharist.  But then the purpose of the censor is altered. It ceases to be a means of offering up the prayers. Instead it becomes a means of punishment. The censor is filled with fire from the altar and cast upon the earth. Does this show that the Church would be used as the means of chastising the world?

That would seem to correspond with the post-Vatican II Church. A liberal, watered-down catechism, and sodomite priests buggering altar boys. If a Catholic went to sleep in 1958, and then woke up again today, he would not recognize the Church, and he would not believe what had gone on for the past 56 years. I remember a priest saying that the worst punishment from God is to send us bad priests.  A homosexual priest is a curse on a parish. A homosexual Bishop is a curse on the diocese. This censor being cast on the earth suggests the punishment that was to come after Vatican II. 

The earthquake also corresponds nicely. John XXIII announced the 2nd Vatican Council in 1959, and then there is an earthquake the next year. The censor changes from offering up smoke to casting down fire.

I suppose that one could also read something into this about the Papal election of 1958: The smoke was rising up in the way it was supposed to, and then the censor's purpose was changed. And this new purpose became the punishment.

The Sedevacantists say that the very traditional Cardinal Siri was elected, but that he was threatened and refused the office.  John XXIII became Pope and he decided to have a council when there was zero need for a council.

[Wimpy]

Thank you for yet another fine lesson and thoughtful discussion.  Though my knowledge of the Vatican II catastrophe is now better understood, thanks to your epistles and E. Michael Jones - The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, I distinctly remember much when it swept through our Church.  The confusion and anger were quite palpable with many Parishioners, Priests and Nuns.  Being a young boy, the impact was similar to discovering the truth about Santa Claus; how could a man (Pope) change God's rules?

If WTF was an acceptable exclamation then, I probably would have said it.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Thank you for yet another fine lesson and thoughtful discussion.  Though my knowledge of the Vatican II catastrophe is now better understood, thanks to your epistles and E. Michael Jones - The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, I distinctly remember much when it swept through our Church.  The confusion and anger were quite palpable with many Parishioners, Priests and Nuns.  Being a young boy, the impact was similar to discovering the truth about Santa Claus; how could a man (Pope) change God's rules?

If WTF was an acceptable exclamation then, I probably would have said it.

I think that if someone was angry and confused, they were a lot more aware of what was going on that anyone in my family. We watched everything go topsy-turvy and never put it together that Vatican II was the cause. Although there were a privileged few (e.g. Archbishop LeFebvre) who had the ability to see what would come about by this revolution, I think the vast majority is still completely unwilling to face the facts that changing everything about the Church overnight has managed to cause a certain degree of harm.

It all seems obvious to me now, but for the longest time I bought into the Vatican II propaganda machine. Whenever Novus Ordo churchmen speak of the council, it is always in the most glowing terms, and rhetoric will always suffice where concrete proof is lacking. The wonders of Vatican II are endless, but unknowable and indescribable. And yet these same persons will never stop to question why the Church suddenly lost all of its priests, and why the faith has departed. There is a cognitive dissonance that won't allow them to ever question the council.  And of course the priests are no longer taught Thomistic Philosophy, but instead are given a healthy dose of Conciliar propaganda and modernist gobeldy-gook. In the Traditional Church there was True and False. Now there is the ever-present tertium quid that no one need describe or understand. Without True and False, there is no ability to reason. There is also no ability to KNOW.

For me, the light went on when B XVI announced that the 2nd Council was NOT dogmatic. If it was not dogmatic, then it was not protected from error. Also, it can be entirely pitched into the wastebasket, and there would not have been a contradiction. It was an experiment: a purely pastoral council. It was also a colossal failure.

When your computer goes haywire, you go back to the last working version. Clear you hard drive and get the last version of the external HD. The Church should set the clock back to 1958. Done.

[Wimpy]

"The wonders of Vatican II are endless, but unknowable and indescribable. And yet these same persons will never stop to question why the Church suddenly lost all of its priests, and why the faith has departed."

We had a second cousin whom was a priest at our Parish.  He left the Church and married (a woman, of course).  A half dozen large families in our immediate neighborhood pulled their children out of the School and most of them stopped attending Mass.

I would say it was a very successful Jew Coup - Divide and Conquer ploy.

[rmstock]

Pope Paul VI was the anti-christ Pope. Here's why :



Here Pope Paul VI (6) (Giovanni Battista Enrico Antonio Maria Montini) is seen wearing
a breastplate with 12 gem stones, also called Jewish Ephod, which is worn exclusively
by Jewish High-Priest. According http://www.thepopeinred.com/thesis.htm :

"Montini Wearing the Jewish Ephod: This object is defined as a richly embroidered, apronlike vestment having two shoulder straps and ornamental attachments for securing the breastplate, the Ephod is worn by the high priest. [Ex. 28:6, 7, 25-28] The twelve stones represent the twelve tribes of Israel. Not only is this the breast-plate of a Jewish High-Priest, but according to the Encyclopedia of Freemasonry by Mackey, the ephod is also "worn in the (Masonic) American Chapters of the Royal Arch, by the High-Priest as an official part of his official ornaments." The ephod was the vestment that was worn by Caiphas, the High-Priest of the Jewish religion, who ordered Our Lord Jesus Christ to be put to death by Crucifixion. "



As you can see Montini also made his public appearance with Ephod but without Crucifix.
If you happen to know that evil always looks at things upside down, and speaks backwards, the
signature of Pope Paul VI is also telling :



see also http://1law-order-and-justice.blogspot.nl/2013/03/the-demons-of-vatican-ii-infesting.html

Pope Paul VI  according The Prophecy - "Flos Florum" -  "Flower of Flowers". Montini was initiated as
Pope on June 21, 1963 (Summer Solstice) and was the Pope during the Flower Power age,
who openly promoted non-Christian religions. Montini was also the "Commie Pope" :

http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f062_Scenario.htm

[rmstock]

Pope Benedict XVI (Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger) according
The Prophecy - De Gloria Olivae - The Glory of the Olive or "To the Olive"

During the reign of Ratzinger Olive Oil was introduced into the
Kitchens of Western Society. In fact i have  a hard time these days
finding old-fashioned salad oil (sla olie in Dutch) which is NOT based
on geneticly modified Soja beans.  Only immigrants into Western Europe
and United states from Mediterranean and Middle East countries were able
to maintain their cooking traditions, based on olive oil, which is NOT
produced and sold as a geneticly modified product.

[rmstock]

"Septicollis means "city of seven hills" (google translator says "steep-hilled" city.)
Rome has long been known as the city of seven hills. Jerusalem was also known as the seven hilled city. "


http://www.aeragon.com/itz/05/05-0101-0175.html

http://thechristadelphians.org/htm/books/Apocalypse/p15.htm
"
PART II
THE IDENTITY OF BABYLON

THE SEPTIMONTIUM

"The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sitteth" (Rev. 17: 9).

  "Rome is not the only city in the world built on seven hills. Is
   not the same true of Jerusalem? What expositors very often overlook
   is the fact that the hills of Rome are hardly hills; they are
   certainly not mountains, which is the word used in Revelation 17:
   9. Indeed, the highest of the seven hills of Rome is a mere 150
   feet ... In sharp contrast with Rome, Jerusalem is built on seven
   mountains. Thte city stands at an altitude of 2400 feet above
   sea-level" (Revelation, page 210, H.A.W.)."
"

When referring to a "steep-hilled" city its more likely that Jerusalem
is meant instead of Rome. The annotation of seven "steep" hills then
belongs to the inner City of Jerusalem or Upper City, City of David.

fig 1.

1. The Protestant Cemetary. The black line to the northeast of it
   showing the position of the scarped foundation of the wall of Zion.
2. Birket es Sultan, or Sultan's Pool.
3. The traditional Aceldama.
4. Birket Mamilla.
5. The School of the late Anglican Bishop. (Now Jerusalem
   University College)

http://www.centuryone.com/explored.html
  "[ ... ]
   Mount Zion sometimes stands for the one hill on the south-western
   quarter of Jerusalem, now partly within and partly without the
   walls, which in ancient times, however, entirely encircled its
   summit; and sometimes for the whole site of the city, consisting of
   the seven hills on which it was situated, namely, Mount Zion, Mount
   Acra, Mount Ophel, Mount Moriah, Mount Gareb, and Mount Goath. [fig]1
   In this latter sense, Mount Zion, as the largest, most anciently
   inhabited, and most important part of Jerusalem, stands, by a
   figure of speech, for the whole of the triple-walled metropolis of
   Palestine. Whether we confine it to the single mountain in
   question, or regard it as spoken of all the seven hills enclosed by
   the three walls of the ancient city, Mount Zion would convey to the
   mind of an Israelite a very grand representation.
   [ ... ]"

[Christopher Marlowe]

Paul VI was a heretic and may have been a freemason, but I think the anti-Christ is going to much, much worse. The Dimond Bros think that JP II was the anti-Christ.

It is believed that the anti-Christ is going to persecute the Church (Rev 12:4), end the daily sacrifice (Dan 11:31), and declare himself God (2Thes 2:3-4). Sedevacantists will say that Paul VI ended the sacrifice by changing the Mass; JP II commonly preached about the divinity of man. Both of them could be said to persecute the Church through heresies. 

But I don't buy it. Jesus said that the Jews would accept the anti-Christ as their Messiah. 

(John 5:42-3)  But I know you, that you have not the love of God in you. [43] I am come in the name of my Father, and you receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him you will receive.

One could argue the the anti-Christ is the Jewish people generally, and this would fit since they have persecuted the Church, and think themselves to be gods and their own Messiah.  But if the anti-Christ is a person, then I don't think we have seen him yet. To fulfill that prophecy, it seems that many people would declare the anti-Christ to be god.  This doesn't really apply to JP II or to Paul VI. 

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It is true that "the seven-hilled city" applies to Jerusalem. I  thought of that also, but it didn't seem to fit with the Fatima vision or the Pius X vision.

"What I have seen is terrifying! Will I be the one, or will it be a successor? What is certain is that the Pope will leave Rome and, in leaving the Vatican, he will have to pass over the dead bodies of his priests!"

[rmstock]

Here is a larger image of the same sketch map

[Christopher Marlowe]

I just read this article showing that many of the cracks of Vatican II began during the reign of Pius XII. 
http://traditio.com/tradlib/piusmodern.htm

Pius XII and Modernism
From Twentieth Century Harbingers (pages 1094-1099)

The Revolution Takes Hold Under Pius XII

Both advocates and critics of the Revolution of the Second Vatican Council agree that the role of Eugenio Maria Giuseppe Giovanni Cardinal Pacelli, who ascended the Chair of Peter on March 12, 1939, as Pope Pius XII was instrumental in securing the revolutionaries a foothold on the papacy. As Martinez solidly documents, and as inveterate collaborators of New-Church like Archbishop Annibale Bugnini, C.M., reaffirm, Pius XII opened the Church to "Progressivism" both politically and theologically.

Under his 19-year-pontificate, the foundation and stepping-stones for the futuristic Newchurch were laid. The following is a short list of decrees and movements initiated by Pope Pius XII that propelled Newchurch forward...

Since the prophecy of St Malachy seems to reference Amos in regards to the reign of Pius XII, I thought I should revisit the Book of Amos.  I found some startling revelations. 

Amos 5:24 -27 " But judgment shall be revealed as water, and justice as a mighty torrent.

25 *Did you offer victims and sacrifices to me in the desert for forty years, O house of Israel?

26 But you carried a tabernacle for your Moloch, and the image of your idols, the star of your god, which you made to yourselves.

Note: the Haydock commentary has this:  "You carried the tents of your king and the base of your statues, the star of your gods, which you have made for yourselves." Septuagint by changing (Calmet) ciun into Rephan, or raiphan, (Haydock) have caused great confusion among commentators. ... The only difficulty is the authority of St. Stephen, who follows the Septuagint, Acts vii. 43. ...See Kennicott, Diss. ii. p. 344. (Haydock) --- Chiun and Rephan are "expressive of the same" god or idol, representing the machine of the heavens.

Those readers who frequent TIU are probably already aware of the connection between the star of Raipahan and the so-called "Star of David".

The Star of Moloch and Remphan (Acts.7:43) is known to relate to Saturn (of which is the 6th planet and considered a wondering star AND has the formation of a HEXagram on its pole)
... Kewan is probably the Old Babylonian Kayawanu, THE PLANET SATURN, another (the Akkadian) name for which is Sakkut, which appears as Siccuth in the earlier part of the verse. With this knowledge you can look at Saturn (hubble images) today and on its pole it clearly and almost shockingly displays a hexagon (seen below). It being the sixth planet it often appears to be a star (source of light) but is actually disguised as such (2 Cor.11:14 Satan himself is transformed (disguised G#3345) as an angel of light and his angels as ministers of light) (As the moon- all prophecies of Satan are given in moons (mounths) and not in days or years (solar). So with the etymology of the name points to a hex itself which trumps mans commentaries. Interestingly enough the symbol its self is made up of 6 lines, 6 points and 6 indentions (666) and hex is a term often used to say to call on negative spirits
http://willntestament.blogspot.com/2013/03/star-of-remphan.html

27 And I will cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the Lord, the God of hosts, is his name."

These star of raiphan now very often appear in Catholic Churches:


Let's continue with Amos 7

The prophet sees, in three visions, evils coming upon Israel: he is accused of treason by the false priest of Bethel.

[1] These things the Lord God shewed to me: and behold the locust was formed in the beginning of the shooting up of the latter rain, and lo, it was the latter rain after the king' s mowing. [2] And it came to pass, that when they had made an end of eating the grass of the land, I said: O Lord God, be merciful, I beseech thee: who shall raise up Jacob, for he is very little? [3] The Lord had pity upon this: It shall not be, said the Lord. [4] These things the Lord God shewed to me: and behold the Lord called for judgment unto fire, and it devoured the great deep, and ate up a part at the same time. [5] And I said: O Lord God, cease, I beseech thee, who shall raise up Jacob, for he is a little one?

Note: see the portion above that discusses the destruction of the Church, symbolized as an army of locusts under the reign of JP II.

...

[6] The Lord had pity upon this. Yea this also shall not be, said the Lord God. [7] These things the Lord shewed to me: and behold the Lord was standing upon a plastered wall, and in his hand a mason' s trowel. [!!!] [8] And the Lord said to me: What seest thou, Amos? And I said: A mason' s trowel. And the Lord said: Behold, I will lay down the trowel in the midst of my people Israel. I will plaster them over no more. [9] And the high places of the idol shall be thrown down, and the sanctuaries of Israel shall be laid waste: and I will rise up against the house of Jeroboam with the sword....

A Mason's Trowel?!?!  Hello!  Holy cow, could this be any more prophetic?  The Vatican II council is very commonly seen as the triumph of Freemasonic principles in the Church. 

Haydock says that the punishment is one of separation from God:

Saturn had a scythe of adamant, and walls of this kind were deemed impervious even to the inhabitants of heaven. Thus Virgil describes the gates of hell:
        "Porta adversa ingens solidoque adamante columnæ,
         Vis ut nulla virum non ipsi exscindere ferro
         Cœlicolæ valeant. ----- (Æneid vi.)"
--- God appearing on such a wall, intimated that the separation between him and his people was complete. (Calmet) --- Hic murus aheneus esto. (Horace, i. ep. 1.)

Ver. 8. Plaster. Septuagint, "I will no more pass over it," the adamantine wall. I will hide their faults no longer. (Haydock)

There may be more, but I think I have shown that the prophecy of Amos, in this context, is warning that the errors and punishments of Vatican II was to follow after Pius XII.

[Michael K.]

Dear Marlowe,

I cannot thank you enough for the time and energy you have put into this subject.  I have not seen a better presentation anywhere. 
Please allow me to suggest where this seems to be headed.  The prophesies in the bible seem to indicate a dual messiah, in the manner of ancient Israel, will together be the Antichrist.  This from Revelation 13:11-18.

One called "the beast" will be king like Saul, while the other will be chief priest like Samuel.  Following this reasoning we can deduce that the Jewish anti-pope will give political authority to a military leader who is nominally Catholic,  but who is actually irreligious.  We have just such a type of person emerging from Russia, where the atheist Soviet officials have begun to suddenly profess Catholic Orthodoxy.

We are told that this "beast" destroys Babylon in one hour by fire.  What country could possess both a nuclear arsenal capable of this war, and is in communion with the Vatican?  Russia.

[Michael K.]

Jeremiah 50 New King James Version (NKJV)

Judgment on Babylon and Babylonia

50 The word that the Lord spoke against Babylon and against the land of the Chaldeans by Jeremiah the prophet.

2 "Declare among the nations,
Proclaim, and set up a standard;
Proclaim—do not conceal it—
Say, 'Babylon is taken, Bel is shamed.
Merodach[a] is broken in pieces;
Her idols are humiliated,
Her images are broken in pieces.'
3 For out of the north a nation comes up against her,
Which shall make her land desolate,
And no one shall dwell therein.
They shall move, they shall depart,
Both man and beast.

4 "In those days and in that time," says the Lord.
"The children of Israel shall come,
They and the children of Judah together;
With continual weeping they shall come,
And seek the Lord their God.
5 They shall ask the way to Zion,
With their faces toward it, saying,
'Come and let us join ourselves to the Lord
In a perpetual covenant
That will not be forgotten.'

6 "My people have been lost sheep.
Their shepherds have led them astray;
They have turned them away on the mountains.
They have gone from mountain to hill;
They have forgotten their resting place.
7 All who found them have devoured them;
And their adversaries said, 'We have not offended,
Because they have sinned against the Lord, the habitation of justice,
The Lord, the hope of their fathers.'

8 "Move from the midst of Babylon,
Go out of the land of the Chaldeans;
And be like the rams before the flocks.
9 For behold, I will raise and cause to come up against Babylon
An assembly of great nations from the north country,
And they shall array themselves against her;
From there she shall be captured.
Their arrows shall be like those of an expert warrior;
None shall return in vain.
10 And Chaldea shall become plunder;
All who plunder her shall be satisfied," says the Lord.

11 "Because you were glad, because you rejoiced,
You destroyers of My heritage,
Because you have grown fat like a heifer threshing grain,
And you bellow like bulls,
12 Your mother shall be deeply ashamed;
She who bore you shall be ashamed.
Behold, the least of the nations shall be a wilderness,
A dry land and a desert.
13 Because of the wrath of the Lord
She shall not be inhabited,
But she shall be wholly desolate.
Everyone who goes by Babylon shall be horrified
And hiss at all her plagues.

14 "Put yourselves in array against Babylon all around,
All you who bend the bow;
Shoot at her, spare no arrows,
For she has sinned against the Lord.
15 Shout against her all around;
She has given her hand,
Her foundations have fallen,
Her walls are thrown down;
For it is the vengeance of the Lord.
Take vengeance on her.
As she has done, so do to her.
16 Cut off the sower from Babylon,
And him who handles the sickle at harvest time.
For fear of the oppressing sword
Everyone shall turn to his own people,
And everyone shall flee to his own land.

17 "Israel is like scattered sheep;
The lions have driven him away.
First the king of Assyria devoured him;
Now at last this Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon has broken his bones."
18 Therefore thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel:
"Behold, I will punish the king of Babylon and his land,
As I have punished the king of Assyria.
19 But I will bring back Israel to his home,
And he shall feed on Carmel and Bashan;
His soul shall be satisfied on Mount Ephraim and Gilead.
20 In those days and in that time," says the Lord,
"The iniquity of Israel shall be sought, but there shall be none;
And the sins of Judah, but they shall not be found;
For I will pardon those whom I preserve.

21 "Go up against the land of Merathaim, against it,
And against the inhabitants of Pekod.
Waste and utterly destroy them," says the Lord,
"And do according to all that I have commanded you.
22 A sound of battle is in the land,
And of great destruction.
23 How the hammer of the whole earth has been cut apart and broken!
How Babylon has become a desolation among the nations!
24 I have laid a snare for you;
You have indeed been trapped, O Babylon,
And you were not aware;
You have been found and also caught,
Because you have contended against the Lord.

25 The Lord has opened His armory,
And has brought out the weapons of His indignation;
For this is the work of the Lord God of hosts
In the land of the Chaldeans.
26 Come against her from the farthest border;
Open her storehouses;
Cast her up as heaps of ruins,
And destroy her utterly;
Let nothing of her be left.
27 Slay all her bulls,
Let them go down to the slaughter.
Woe to them!
For their day has come, the time of their punishment.

28 The voice of those who flee and escape from the land of Babylon
Declares in Zion the vengeance of the Lord our God,
The vengeance of His temple.
29 "Call together the archers against Babylon.
All you who bend the bow, encamp against it all around;
Let none of them escape.
Repay her according to her work;
According to all she has done, do to her;
For she has been proud against the Lord,
Against the Holy One of Israel.
30 Therefore her young men shall fall in the streets,
And all her men of war shall be cut off in that day," says the Lord.

31 "Behold, I am against you,
O most haughty one!" says the Lord God of hosts;
"For your day has come,
The time that I will punish you.
32 The most proud shall stumble and fall,
And no one will raise him up;
I will kindle a fire in his cities,
And it will devour all around him."

33 Thus says the Lord of hosts:
"The children of Israel were oppressed,
Along with the children of Judah;
All who took them captive have held them fast;
They have refused to let them go.
34 Their Redeemer is strong;
The Lord of hosts is His name.
He will thoroughly plead their case,
That He may give rest to the land,
And disquiet the inhabitants of Babylon.

35 "A sword is against the Chaldeans," says the Lord,
"Against the inhabitants of Babylon,
And against her princes and her wise men.
36 A sword is against the soothsayers, and they will be fools.
A sword is against her mighty men, and they will be dismayed.
37 A sword is against their horses,
Against their chariots,
And against all the mixed peoples who are in her midst;
And they will become like women.
A sword is against her treasures, and they will be robbed.

38 A drought is against her waters, and they will be dried up.
For it is the land of carved images,
And they are insane with their idols.
39 "Therefore the wild desert beasts shall dwell there with the jackals,
And the ostriches shall dwell in it.
It shall be inhabited no more forever,
Nor shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation.
40 As God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah
And their neighbors," says the Lord,
"So no one shall reside there,
Nor son of man dwell in it.

41 "Behold, a people shall come from the north,
And a great nation and many kings
Shall be raised up from the ends of the earth.
42 They shall hold the bow and the lance;
They are cruel and shall not show mercy.
Their voice shall roar like the sea;
They shall ride on horses,
Set in array, like a man for the battle,
Against you, O daughter of Babylon.

43 "The king of Babylon has heard the report about them,
And his hands grow feeble;
Anguish has taken hold of him,
Pangs as of a woman in childbirth.
44 "Behold, he shall come up like a lion from the floodplain of the Jordan
Against the dwelling place of the strong;
But I will make them suddenly run away from her.
And who is a chosen man that I may appoint over her?
For who is like Me?
Who will arraign Me?
And who is that shepherd
Who will withstand Me?"

45 Therefore hear the counsel of the Lord that He has taken against Babylon,
And His purposes that He has proposed against the land of the Chaldeans:
Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out;
Surely He will make their dwelling place desolate with them.
46 At the noise of the taking of Babylon
The earth trembles,
And the cry is heard among the nations.

[Christopher Marlowe]

I cannot thank you enough for the time and energy you have put into this subject.  I have not seen a better presentation anywhere. 

Thank you for noticing, as it took a lot of work.

Please allow me to suggest where this seems to be headed. The prophesies in the bible seem to indicate a dual messiah, in the manner of ancient Israel, will together be the Antichrist.  This from Revelation 13:11-18.

One called "the beast" will be king like Saul, while the other will be chief priest like Samuel.  Following this reasoning we can deduce that the Jewish anti-pope will give political authority to a military leader who is nominally Catholic,  but who is actually irreligious.  We have just such a type of person emerging from Russia, where the atheist Soviet officials have begun to suddenly profess Catholic Orthodoxy.

Here are some major points that I have uncovered from my research:
1. Bible prophecy, especially Revelations, often concerns the spiritual battle in physical terms.  I think that this one point has caught many interpreters unaware. I have fallen prey as well. 

An example of this can be seen in the portion above where the Malachi prophecy indicates Joel as pertaining to the pontificate of JP II.  There is a massive army of locusts, darkening the sky and laying waste the land.  The same is referenced in Rev 9.  There was no such physical manifestation during the reign of JP II, but there was a liturgical and spiritual destruction going on.  The most obvious outcome is that, before JP II, priests were generally respected. Now it is commonplace to hear the phrase "pedophile priest".  Thanks JP II!  (And all the while, Woltyla got excellent press and afterwards was promptly canonized a "saint"!)

2. In the old testament, "Israel" meant the children of israel, who were the physical descendants of Abraham that followed the law of Moses.  After Jesus, the children of Abraham meant his spiritual descendants, i.e. The Catholic Church. The same with "Zion".  This is a HUGE sticking point for many today who see that crappy state of "israel" and think "Israel" in Bible prophecy.  They are no longer God's people and their faith is a false religion that is opposed to Jesus Christ. 

This comes into play when we see fulfillment of OT prophecies in modern times, as in the case of the Jeremiah 50/Rev 18 fall of Babylon.  When I think of "Babylon" in modern times, I think of the Jewish banking system, their lying media/pornography empire, MIC, etc...   

There are two very good books on Revelation that I have found:
1. "The Book of Destiny" by Rev Herman Bernard Kramer.  This was published in 1955, so it is not yet freely published online, but it is available in print. 
2. "The Apocalypse of St John" by Rev E Sylvester Berry.  I am less familiar with this work, as I just found out about it a couple of days ago.  He makes some very accurate prophecies about what was going to happen to the Church. This book can be downloaded online for FREE because it was published in 1921.   

Let's look at Rev 13 (Douay Rheims):

Of the beast with seven heads and of a second beast.

[1] And I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten diadems, and upon his heads names of blasphemy.

Both Kramer and Berry say that the beast is the anti-Christ.
Berry says that

Hence each head is branded with a name descriptive of the sin or error it represents. All heresies blaspheme by denying some dogma of Faith; thus, for example, atheism denies the existence of God; Arianism rejects the divinity of Christ; Mohammedanism denies both the divinity of Christ and the Trinity of God, while Judaism refuses to recognize our Lord as Messias

Kramer notes that St Paul speaks of the anti-Christ in Thess 2:4:

Who opposeth, and is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself as if he were God.

Kramer reasons that this cannot be an ancient temple, as that would no longer be the Temple of God.  Therefore he must be sitting in a Catholic Church.  Kramer says that the mystery of iniquity would have reached its height at that point. 

[2] And the beast, which I saw, was like to a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion. And the dragon gave him his own strength, and great power.

Berry: 

The beast resembles a leopard in cruelty.    The feet of a bear are symbols of stealth, while the mouth of a lion is an emblem of that strength and power which Satan   confers   upon   his   representative.    Through   the power of Satan, Antichrist will perform great wonders to deceive the people and lead them to accept him as the true Messias.    St. Paul says that the coming of Anti christ will be "according to the working of Satan, in all power, and signs, and lying wonders." 7    Our Lord also warns the faithful of false miracles in those days:  "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show signs and wonders insomuch as to deceive (if possible)  even the elect.    Behold I have told it to you beforehand."

Kramer says the beast will batter down the Christian foundation of our civilization, and will bring the world back into barbarism.  [I see this in the barbaric wars the US constantly wages.] The beast will have the voice of a lion in that it will make itself hear throughout the world. [Jewish MSM?]

"By its power of propaganda, it will make its doctrines known everywhere and will terrify into submission everyone who does not have the "sign of God"..."

Kramer says that

[t]he lion is the emblem of the papacy in the Apocalypse...  Antichrist, the vicar of Satan, will have the traits of the vicar of Christ.

The Beast will accept the throne that was offered by Satan to Christ: that as prince of the world. With this throne, the beast will receive irresistible military powers.  Antichrist will use his authority in defiance of all international law and natural justice.

[3] And I saw one of his heads as it were slain to death: and his death' s wound was healed. And all the earth was in admiration after the beast.

Kramer says that this refers to paganism, which was killed by Emperor Constantine.  Paganism would be restored by Antichrist, who will promote the worship of his own image.

People who do not believe in the immortality of the soul ... will desire the extermination of the Church and the re-establishment of ... state supremacy. Socialism advocates it, denies immortality, is of Jewish origin....

[4] And they adored the dragon, which gave power to the beast: and they adored the beast, saying: Who is like to the beast? and who shall be able to fight with him?
[5] And there was given to him a mouth speaking great things, and blasphemies: and power was given to him to do two and forty months.
[6] And he opened his mouth unto blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

Kramer notes that the satanic malice inspiring Antichrist will reserve its most venomous shafts for the Church, and especially for the Holy Eucharist. "[T]hose that dwell in heaven" would be the episcopate, priesthood and religious orders. This is referring to all that the Church holds sacred: the sacraments, the priesthood..., the Christian family, the infallible dogmas and the moral law.

[7] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. And power was given him over every tribe, and people, and tongue, and nation.

Kramer says that in this time, the Two Witnesses will preach and then be killed by Antichrist.
Berry:

He shall rule over many nations and many peo ples will adore him: his kingdom shall have the semblance of catholicity or universality. This is the great revolt of the nations foretold by St. Paul," but it shall not be truly universal;

one nation, at least, shall remain faithful to the Church in those days

and the elect whose names are written in the book of life will not adore Antichrist.

[8] And all that dwell upon the earth adored him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb, which was slain from the beginning of the world.
[9] If any man have an ear, let him hear.
[10] He that shall lead into captivity, shall go into captivity: he that shall kill by the sword, must be killed by the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Kramer:

No one must plot or desire revenge, but must oppose patience to violence and accept as a penance the direst persecution remaining confident that God will direct the trend of events to His own glory...

[11] And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns, like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.

Berry:

The beast arising from the earth is a false prophet—the prophet of Antichrist. 1  Our divine Saviour has a representative on earth in the person of the Pope upon whom He has conferred full powers to teach and govern. Likewise Antichrist will have his representative in the false prophet who will be endowed with the plenitude of satanic powers to deceive the nations.
       If Antichrist be of Jewish extraction, as he probably will, the sea from which he arises signifies Judaism. Then the earth whence comes the second beast is a symbol of the Gentile nations in revolt against the Church. The two horns denote a twofold authority—spiritual and temporal. As indicated by the resemblance to a lamb, the prophet will probably set himself up in Rome as a sort of antipope during the vacancy of the papal throne... 2  But the elect will not allow them selves to be deceived; they will recall the words of our Lord: "Then if any man shall say to you: Lo here is Christ, or there, do not believe him."

Kramer says that the horns refers to powers, but that the phrase, "like a lamb" might indicate that these aer no worldly powers.

The added phrase seems to intimate that he is an apostate bishop or cardinal, or he resembles one.... This false prophet ... usurps the papal supremacy and proposes himself as emperor of Rome.

[12] And he executed all the power of the former beast in his sight; and he caused the earth, and them that dwell therein, to adore the first beast, whose wound to death was healed.

Kramer says that the Antichrist will have Satan as his constant guardian, so any satanic powers that the false prophet possesses must be exercised in the presence of the Antichrist. The doctrines of the false prophet,

will be enunciated in a high-sounding literary style and ornamented with an alluring mysticism, [CM: sounds like Vatican II encylicals.] the better to fit them for fostering every degree of pride and moral abandonment.

Berry:

Antichrist will establish himself in Jerusalem where a great number of Jews will have gathered through some such movement as Zionism. [Note that Berry was writing more than 25 years before the establishment of the crappy Jewish state.] The vast majority of Jews have ever clung to the belief that God will one day restore the kingdom of Israel through a Messias—an "Anointed one"—of the house of David.  When Antichrist manifests himself to those in Jerusalem with his "lying wonders" they will immediately proclaim him their king and Messias. Then through the power of false miracles the prophet will soon lead the Gentile nations to adore him as the true Messias promised of old by the prophets.

Berry also says that the "temple of God" cannot mean the restored temple of the OT.

the prophecy of Daniel seems to preclude such a possibility:

"And there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation: and the desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end."

It matters not how scholars interpret this abomination, the words of Christ clearly prove that it was to lead directly to the destruction of the temple by the Roman army in 70 A. D. The destruction then wrought shall be final...
   Julian the Apostate attempted to rebuild the temple in the fourth century but the undertaking was frustrated in a miraculous manner.

The place was made inaccessible by fearful balls of fire that broke out near the foundations and so scorched and burned the workmen that they were forced to retire. The frequent attacks finally caused the work to be abandoned."

The "temple of God" in the above passage from St. Paul probably means all places of Catholic worship in general, and in particular the churches of Rome and Jerusalem. The "abomination of desolation" has been wrought in many Catholic churches by heretics and apostates who have broken altars, scattered the relics of martyrs and desecrated the Blessed Sacrament.

[13] And he did great signs, so that he made also fire to come down from heaven unto the earth in the sight of men.
[14] And he seduced them that dwell on the earth, for the signs, which were given him to do in the sight of the beast, saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make the image of the beast, which had the wound by the sword, and lived.
[15] And it was given him to give life to the image of the beast, and that the image of the beast should speak; and should cause, that whosoever will not adore the image of the beast, should be slain.

Kramer notes that we do not know the full power of satan, but apparently he has some power similar to animating a statue of stone. The objective is to offset any claims made by the Church or any miracles wrought by the Two Witnesses. This will begin a blood persecution of the true believers.

[16] And he shall make all, both little and great, rich and poor, freemen and bondmen, to have a character in their right hand, or on their foreheads.

Berry:

16.   The followers of Antichrist will be marked with a character in imitation of the sign that St. John saw upon the foreheads of the servants of God.  This indicates that Antichrist and his prophet will introduce ceremonies to imitate the Sacraments of the Church.    In fact there will be a complete organization—a church of Satan set up in opposition to the Church of Christ.    Satan will assume the part of God the Father; Antichrist will be honored as Saviour, and his prophet will usurp the role of Pope.    Their ceremonies will counterfeit the  Sacraments and their works of magic be heralded as miracles. A similar project was attempted in the fourth century when Julian the Apostate counterfeited Catholic worship with pagan ceremonies in honor of Mithras and Cybele. He established a priesthood and instituted ceremonies in imitation of Baptism and Confirmation.

Kramer notes that having this imposed on all classes shows an abolition of classes, much like communism.

[17] And that no man might buy or sell, but he that hath the character, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Kramer reminds us that

a very similar thing was done in England after Protestantism was triumphant.  Catholics were fined ... for not worshiping God in a Protestant way, until they were reduced to utter pauperism.  their property was confiscated, and all political rights were wrested from them.

CM: Kramer believes that modern day Catholics would refuse adoration of the Beast, but I just saw a video of the St Patrick's day parade, where all but one of the Catholics present thought it was a jolly and "Catholic" thing that faggots could march in the parade under their own banner.  That is so obviously wrong. What would St Patrick say about a parade that glorified sodomy?  These people think that they are Catholic, but they have lost the faith. Many priests give homilies that are supposed to proclaim the Gospel, but what they proclaim is the front page of the Jew York Times.

[18] Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man: and the number of him is six hundred sixty-six.

Kramer:

No doubt he will style himself king of Israel.

Also see I Kings 10:14

And the weight of the gold that was brought to Solomon every year, was six hundred and sixty-six talents of gold:

Berry:

For the name of Antichrist, St. John gives a cryptogram that will enable the faithful to recognize him as soon as he makes his appearance in the world. This cryptogram consists of the numerical value of the letters in his name. St. John says that it is the number of a man. This may mean that the cryptogram is to be solved by methods in common use among men. It may also mean that the name is that of a definite individual, thus showing that Antichrist is not to be identified with the Roman Empire nor with the wicked in general as some maintain. 12
       In computing the number of Antichrist authors are divided in their opinions as to whether the Latin, Greek, or Hebrew letters should be used. The prevailing opinion today regards the use of Hebrew as the most probable. In the new Jewish kingdom of Jerusalem the use of Hebrew will certainly be encouraged if not made obligatory. Even today Hebrew is one of the recognized languages of Palestine, and is widely used by the Jews living there. [CM: Berry was bang-on here. Hebrew is the official language of israhell.]
...Father Sloet of Holland proposed a solution based upon the title of Antichrist as king of Israel." The Jews have ever looked forward to the Messias as a great leader to restore the kingdom of Israel. They rejected our Lord because He did not fulfill this expectation. We may be sure that the pretensions of Antichrist will not be wanting in this regard.

In summary, it makes sense that the false prophet will be an anti-pope, as you say.  Francis/Bergoglio does not seem too far off the mark. 

The Antichrist is very likely Jewish, and his kingdom will likely be centered in Jerusalem.  I have often thought that the Jews in general are the Antichrist: they are the enemies of mankind; they start all the wars; they are being every sort of filth, porn, homosexuality, etc... In addition, the Jews have a lock on banking, MIC, media, and global politics.  The deadly head wound could be the destruction of the temple in 70 AD, or more recently the holohoax, where 70 kagillion Jews were gassed, buried, dug-up, burned, washed in a gentle cycle, lather, rinse repeat. 

But the writers say that the 666 refers to the name of a man.  "Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man: and the number of him is six hundred sixty-six."

Next you said that:

We are told that this "beast" destroys Babylon in one hour by fire.  What country could possess both a nuclear arsenal capable of this war, and is in communion with the Vatican?  Russia.

I don't see Russia as fulfilling the role of the Antichrist at all.   IMHO, the United States, Canada and Europe seem to be much more decadent than Russia.  Putin seems to be fighting against the JWO more than any other country in the world.  Russia actually passed a law against the public promotion of homosexuality!  But the US promotes faggotry by law, and the US is bombing every country that opposes the Jews.  Every leader in the US Congress is a major *ss-kisser of the Jews.   

I don't see Russia as being particularly close to the Vatican. Yet nearly every Vatican II Pope has to visit israhell and the last 3 have prayed at the wailing wall.  The Jew World Order and the Antichrist will be centered in Jerusalem.  See Rev 11:

And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast, that ascendeth out of the abyss, shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. [8] And their bodies shall lie in the streets of the great city, which is called spiritually, Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord also was crucified.

Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem. The current Jewish state promotes sodomy. It's a very close fit to israhell, but it doesn't match Russia at all.

Babylon
I have often wondered about this prophecy.  Is New Babylon a physical place that is going to be destroyed?  Where would the modern equivalent of Babylon be located?  New York?  Washington DC?

Here's what it says in Rev 18:

The fall of Babylon. Kings and merchants lament over her.

[1] And after these things, I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power: and the earth was enlightened with his glory. [2] And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen; and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every unclean spirit, and the hold of every unclean and hateful bird: [3] Because all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication; and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her; and the merchants of the earth have been made rich by the power of her delicacies. [4] And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Go out from her, my people; that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.

Kramer suggests that true believers will be in the doomed city up until the day of destruction, but that they shall b warned to depart.

[5] For her sins have reached unto heaven, and the Lord hath remembered her iniquities.

[6] Render to her as she also hath rendered to you; and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup wherein she hath mingled, mingle ye double unto her. [7] As much as she hath glorified herself, and lived in delicacies, so much torment and sorrow give ye to her; because she saith in her heart: I sit a queen, and am no widow; and sorrow I shall not see. [8] Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine, and she shall be burnt with the fire; because God is strong, who shall judge her.

Kramer notes that this could not be accomplished in ancient times, but modern warfare: "atomic bombs" could destroy a city in the span of a day.

[9] And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication, and lived in delicacies with her, shall weep, and bewail themselves over her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning: [10] Standing afar off for fear of her torments, saying: Alas! alas! that great city Babylon, that mighty city: for in one hour is thy judgment come.

Kramer says that the New Babylon will have been the wealthiest, most powerful and most magnificent capital in the world.  [CM: To me, this would suggest New York or a similar city]

Berry's commentary on this chapter are very thin and unenlightening.  He suggests that the capital is Rome, but he does not provide much support.   

[11] And the merchants of the earth shall weep, and mourn over her: for no man shall buy their merchandise any more. [12] Merchandise of gold and silver, and precious stones; and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner of vessels of ivory, and all manner of vessels of precious stone, and of brass, and of iron, and of marble, [13] And cinnamon, and odours, and ointment, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

Kramer:

The last item of sale mentioned suggests that there shall be a horrifying white-slave market in the world of the Antichrist promoted by the wicked merchants and inhabitants of New Babylon.

[CM: This would militate against modern Rome or the Vatican.  Neither of these places are known for trade, luxury items or white-slavery.  Compare this to cities infested by Jewish trade, and which are rife with porn and prostitution.]

[14] And the fruits of the desire of thy soul are departed from thee, and all fat and goodly things are perished from thee, and they shall find them no more at all. [15] The merchants of these things, who were made rich, shall stand afar off from her, for fear of her torments, weeping and mourning.

[16] And saying: Alas! alas! that great city, which was clothed with fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and was gilt with gold, and precious stones, and pearls. [17] For in one hour are so great riches come to nought; and every shipmaster, and all that sail into the lake, and mariners, and as many as work in the sea, stood afar off.

Kramer notes that the suggestion of Rome as New Babylon was due to St John's patterning Babylon after ancient Rome.  Rome epitomized all of this same luxury and degeneracy.  [CM: St Peter wrote one of his epistles from Rome: 1Pet 5:13

The church that is in Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you: and so doth my son Mark.

[18] And cried, seeing the place of her burning, saying: What city is like to this great city? [19] And they cast dust upon their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying: Alas! alas! that great city, wherein all were made rich, that had ships at sea, by reason of her prices: for in one hour she is made desolate. [20] Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath judged your judgment on her.

Isaiah 25: 1-2  O Lord, thou art my God, I will exalt thee, and give glory to thy name: for thou hast done wonderful things, thy designs of old faithful, amen. [2] For thou hast reduced the city to a heap, the strong city to ruin, the house of strangers, to be no city, and to be no more built up for ever.

[21] And a mighty angel took up a stone, as it were a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying: With such violence as this shall Babylon, that great city, be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

Jer 51:63-64 And when thou shalt have made an end of reading this book, thou shalt tie a stone to it, and shalt throw it into the midst of the Euphrates: [64] And thou shalt say: Thus shall Babylon sink, and she shall not rise up from the affliction that I will bring upon her, and she shall be utterly destroyed. Thus far are the words of Jeremias.

[22] And the voice of harpers, and of musicians, and of them that play on the pipe, and on the trumpet, shall no more be heard at all in thee; and no craftsman of any art whatsoever shall be found any more at all in thee; and the sound of the mill shall be heard no more at all in thee; [23] And the light of the lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth, for all nations have been deceived by thy enchantments. [24] And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Kramer says that 23-24 gives the reason for the punishment of New Babylon. 

1. The merchants were the rulers of the world through their enormous profits and wealth. The international high-financiers and bankers flocked there and by their money manipulations controlled the world and made all nations dependent upon them. 2. The influence of her doctrines, philosophy and idolatry led the whole world astray and into the most finished idolatry.... 3. The final and principal reason for her violent end was the bloody persecution she set on foot against the Church by her far-reaching influence.  The change in grammatical construction brings about this last reason with special prominence.

When I see that New Babylon is being punished for all these sins, it doesn't make sense that it would be visited upon a single city.  The whole chapter mentions sins that ring true of the entire Jew World Order.  Who else controls high finance?  Who else leads the world into sins with false doctrines and philosophy and idolatry?  And the Jews have been the enemies of mankind and the Church from the time of Christ:

1Thess 2:24-15 For you, brethren, are become followers of the churches of God which are in Judea, in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered the same things from your own countrymen, even as they have from the Jews, [15] Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men;

New Babylon seems to be the corruption of the Modern World through Jewish control. How could the destruction of one city put an end to this, or how would this make atonement for these numerous sins? 

Perhaps this chapter is talking about another more complete chastisement, more like that of the Three Days of Darkness.

[Michael K.]

Marlowe, this deserves a long answer, which I hope to return with at some time.  Until then I want to briefly answer on two points, namely the identities of the Beast and Babylon. 

[18] And cried, seeing the place of her burning, saying: What city is like to this great city? [19] And they cast dust upon their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying: Alas! alas! that great city, wherein all were made rich, that had ships at sea, by reason of her prices: for in one hour she is made desolate. [20] Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath judged your judgment on her.

It is God's judgment that the Beast should destroy Babylon, although in the end Christ and His angels make war with the Beast and utterly destroy him.  How can this be?  How can God allow such an iniquitous leader to deliver His holy judgment upon Babylon? 

It is perhaps because the Beast, being a false Christ, credits his scheme to arrive at absolute power to his supposed mission to do God's work, in order to deceive people.  Kind of like Judaism.

God is not mocked; he uses the 'king of the Medes' as his hammer, and when that hammer boasts of the work, it goes into the forge to be destroyed.  Who can penetrate His wisdom?

Babylon, that great city is all of America's cities.  It is America.

The ten kings are the members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, possibly. They give power to the Beast to lead the war against America.  He has moral authority from the antipope to lead. He is coronated Tsar.  He alone has the military might to lead a mighty coalition on behalf of religious ideals held by a majority of the world's people, including Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists, ideals flouted for quite some time in the 'Kwa.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Marlowe, this deserves a long answer, which I hope to return with at some time.  Until then I want to briefly answer on two points, namely the identities of the Beast and Babylon. 

[18] And cried, seeing the place of her burning, saying: What city is like to this great city? [19] And they cast dust upon their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying: Alas! alas! that great city, wherein all were made rich, that had ships at sea, by reason of her prices: for in one hour she is made desolate. [20] Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath judged your judgment on her.

It is God's judgment that the Beast should destroy Babylon, although in the end Christ and His angels make war with the Beast and utterly destroy him.  How can this be?  How can God allow such an iniquitous leader to deliver His holy judgment upon Babylon?

It is perhaps because the Beast, being a false Christ, credits his scheme to arrive at absolute power to his supposed mission to do God's work, in order to deceive people.  Kind of like Judaism.

If you review Rev 18, I think you will find that it doesn't say that the Beast destroys Babylon.  I understand that Babylon is judged because of the sins that Babylon has committed.  Chiefly:

1. for thy merchants were the great men of the earth,
2. for all nations have been deceived by thy enchantments.
3. And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Michael K.: God is not mocked; he uses the 'king of the Medes' as his hammer, and when that hammer boasts of the work, it goes into the forge to be destroyed.  Who can penetrate His wisdom?

Babylon, that great city is all of America's cities.  It is America.

Perhaps.  But I don't see those three judgments as applying to all American cities.  New York would fit the first two. Los Angeles would fit the second one.  Washington DC vaguely fits the first one?  All seem to be lacking in "blood of the saints that were slain upon the earth."  Jerusalem is most famous for number 3:

Luke 13:33 "Nevertheless I must walk today and tomorrow, and the day following, because it cannot be that a prophet perish, out of Jerusalem."

Also, as I have already stated, the Jews have been the enemies of mankind for 2,000 years.  Also israhell is the capital of the Jewish crime syndicate. If I was going to guess at a physical city or nation, I think Jerusalem/israhell would be a good guess. 

Ancient Rome fit these three to a "T": the Romans had numerous persecutions of Christians; Rome was the center of civilization - the arts and commerce. 

I don't see so much literal "blood of the saints" being shed in the US.  Maybe because the US has started so many unjust wars? But the US hasn't really persecuted so many saints.  You might be right, but it doesn't seem like a really tight fit. I confess the whole chapter has me bewildered.  I don't know if it is referring a city or a country or the whole Babylon system.  And how will it be destroyed in an hour? 

[Michael K.]

Marlowe, here is the scripture which shows beyond doubt that the ten kings and beast are the tool God uses to judge Babylon:

Revelation 17

16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. 18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.

Regarding the blood of the saints, this is what JADE HELM 15 is about.  Christians are going to be the target of massive counterinsurgency operations. Here we can recall Nero.  They will perish very soon indeed.

Quit being so literal as though it is one city.  Rome was a city, while at the same time it was also an empire.   It's the same with Washington, a fight to destroy that city means defeat of the whole empire.

[Michael K.]

A nuclear preemptory strike on the States would take one hour.  All cities would be targets.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Marlowe, here is the scripture which shows beyond doubt that the ten kings and beast are the tool God uses to judge Babylon:

Revelation 17

16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. 18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.

Oh, I skipped right from Rev 13 to Rev 18 without looking at this chapter.
Berry seems to adopt your interpretation, but he says that Babylon is Rome.

After a time the beast and his allied kings (the ten horns) will make war upon Rome and lay it waste with fire and sword. ... St. John gives no reason why Antichrist and his allies turn against Rome except that God puts it into their hearts to accomplish His purposes.

Kramer is pretty much in line with Berry here.  Kramer says that Rome will apostatize from the faith, and then will be destroyed by the beast. He suggests that the Beast wants Jerusalem to be the center of worship, replacing Rome.

Michael K said: Regarding the blood of the saints, this is what JADE HELM 15 is about.  Christians are going to be the target of massive counterinsurgency operations. Here we can recall Nero.  They will perish very soon indeed.

Quit being so literal as though it is one city.  Rome was a city, while at the same time it was also an empire.   It's the same with Washington, a fight to destroy that city means defeat of the whole empire.

I don't think I am being too literal.  I am willing to see Babylon as a city or a state or a concept. 

But do you think that the Antichrist is now present?  I don't.  It doesn't seem that they will start killing Christians until that time.  Personally, I think the best recourse is to buy farmland and unplug.

[Michael K.]

Yes, I do think that he is present.  For one thing, this prophecy according to blessed Malachy indicates that the antipope Francis is the last in line.  Could he be the false prophet spoke in of in Revelation 13:11, who is "like a lamb," and whom Barry refers to as an antipope?  If so, then this is the dreaded day. 

For another thing, we are on the verge of the outbreak of WW III.  Rome is hardly a target in a geopolitical sense.  America is going to burn, she is Babylon, right down to the detail.  She is the offspring of Rome in a real sense.  What is more, she is the seventh king mentioned in scripture:

Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. 10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. 11 The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.

These kings are the inheritors of Cain's city system, started in Erech/Enoch/Ur.  This is a pyramid system of slavery and military mind control which began before the flood.  Following the flood are the five kings, the ancient world empires centered in city states: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, and Greece.  At the time of St. John the sixth king was present, Rome. 

The empires are all one entity, the beast, the earthly crown given to Cain and his White royal offspring by the devil.  The seventh king is a brief empire, an inheritor of both Rome and Babylon.  It is the Anglo Atlantic empire.  The eighth king is the Antichrist, who destroys the latter day Babylon, meaning the Anglos.  He is "of the seven" meaning that he too is Roman royalty.  The "third Rome" is Russia.

Get thee hence from Babylon that you not be partakers of her plagues...

[Christopher Marlowe]

Yes, I do think that he is present.  For one thing, this prophecy according to blessed Malachy indicates that the antipope Francis is the last in line.  Could he be the false prophet spoke in of in Revelation 13:11, who is "like a lamb," and whom Barry refers to as an antipope?  If so, then this is the dreaded day.

Makes sense.  Also Francis/Bergoglio wrote an encyclical that said the Mosaic covenant is still valid, which is total heresy.  It could foreshadow worshiping the beast.

Evangelii Gaudium n. 247: "We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked".

This text is an explicit profession of heresy, directly opposed to the solemn dogmatic definition of Pope Eugenius III and the Ecumenical Council of Florence, and the doctrine taught by the supreme magisterium of Pope Benedict XIV in Ex Quo Primum, set forth repeatedly and explicitly citing the definition of Florence, to wit, that the Mosaic covenant has been "revoked" and "abrogated". I have been saying for years that when a "pope" will officially teach explicit and clear heresy flatly contradicting the infallibly defined dogma of the Catholic faith, then you will know that he is the false pope prophecied in many Church approved prophecies and Marian apparitions. St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Alohonsus Liguori, St. Antoninus and Pope Innocent III all teach that when the pope demonstrates himself to be a manifest heretic, i.e. a plainly manifested public heretic, he ceases to be pope (or, if already was a public heretic he was invalidly elected) because he is not a Catholic -- not a member of the Catholic Church. Bellarmine explains that the Roman Pontiff is the visible head of the Church, and the head is a member. One who is not a member cannot be the head, and therefore the election to the supreme pontificate of a public heretic is canonically null & void. [citing Fr Paul Kramer's statements on Evangeli Gaudium] http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/paul-kramer-rejects-francis.htm

Michael K.: For another thing, we are on the verge of the outbreak of WW III.  Rome is hardly a target in a geopolitical sense. America is going to burn, she is Babylon, right down to the detail.  She is the offspring of Rome in a real sense.  What is more, she is the seventh king mentioned in scripture:

Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. 10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. 11 The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.

These kings are the inheritors of Cain's city system, started in Erech/Enoch/Ur.  This is a pyramid system of slavery and military mind control which began before the flood.  Following the flood are the five kings, the ancient world empires centered in city states: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, and Greece.  At the time of St. John the sixth king was present, Rome.

Makes sense. Rome (as the Vatican) is not important at all in the worldly sense. I do not believe that Rome has any worldly power, except that a billion Catholics look to the Pope as the leader of the Church. 

The US does seem to match the description more closely, except for the last charge:

3. And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Maybe the US is guilty of this in a covert way that I am not seeing.  Historically, Catholics have had a freedom to practice their Faith in the US. I can see that the faithful are being persecuted somewhat in the new Obamacare that forces people to pay for abortion. Perhaps another understanding of this can be found in the Freemasonic understanding of separation of Church and State, which has corrupted the Catholic Church.  This idea says that people have a "right" to practice error publicly, which is nonsense. God is the source of all rights, and one can never have a "right" to error.  The true Catholic understanding of this right is in the negative sense: that a person cannot be forced to believe anything. A person has a right to believe whatever they wish. The Freemasonic understanding of this right makes the state the final arbiter of what sin is, which is ridiculous, and which leads to the situation that is developing in the US: "right" to kill the unborn; "right" to homosexual marriage; etc...

By falling into apostasy, the Church commits a great error.  Rome knew the Truth and were the guardians of it.  One who knew the Truth and falls away commits a greater sin than one who is ignorant of the Truth.

But I would say that the US resembles ancient Rome very closely otherwise. 

Michael K.: 3. And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.The empires are all one entity, the beast, the earthly crown given to Cain and his White royal offspring by the devil.  The seventh king is a brief empire, an inheritor of both Rome and Babylon.  It is the Anglo Atlantic empire.  The eighth king is the Antichrist, who destroys the latter day Babylon, meaning the Anglos.  He is "of the seven" meaning that he too is Roman royalty.  The "third Rome" is Russia.

Get thee hence from Babylon that you not be partakers of her plagues...

You had me until "Russia".  Russia was definitely shaping up to the Antichrist empire as the USSR, but now Putin's Russia is definitely more Christian than the US.  The US is turning quite anti-Christian.  In order for your interpretation to come about, it would seem that the US would be destroyed, and then Russia would become the seat of the Antichrist?  I'm not seeing that.  Maybe the US will get the Kaibosh.  Maybe Rome will.  Maybe both will.  But I don't see Russia as the seat of the Antichrist.  Time will tell. 

Note: the divergent interpretations of "Babylon" necessitate different remedies. Getting out of Babylon, as the US, would mean physically moving to another country, or maybe just out of the cities.  Babylon as Rome would mean to become sedevacantist, and to deny that the current Pope is a successor of Peter.  But either way, there must come a warning first:

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Go out from her, my people; that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues. [5] For her sins have reached unto heaven, and the Lord hath remembered her iniquities.

[Michael K.]

Russia is a ravening bear in sheep's clothing.  How do you justify the acceptance of Russia's narrative about how the entire staff of the former KGB one day up and converted to Orthodox Christianity?  That, to me, seems just preposterous.

Next, there is ample evidence communists had enveloped the Moscow Patriarchate and then insinuated agents into the offices of priest and bishop.

http://www.vonoom.com/chekists-in-cassocks-the-orthodox-church-and-the-kgb-118373.html

Accepting the formerly Soviet state's account of how it transformed from hard line atheists at war with the purveyors of the "opiate of the masses," the hated Church, to convinced and sincere goers to the Masses, seems to invoke the same aura of magic I see around Obama...

[Christopher Marlowe]

I never heard that story about the KGB "converting". And I find it very easy to believe that many churches under 70 years of communism were infiltrated. I think there is an untold story about JP II and the CIA and who knows what communist influences. 

But in politics, I can only judge by what I can prove.  And Putin stands up for morality more than any world leader. You can make the case that it is just a show, but the P-Riot punks went to jail in Russia.  In Europe and the US they are heroes.  Russia passed an anti-homosexual propaganda law.  The US makes it illegal to discriminate against homosexuals, and you get fined if you refuse to back a fag wedding cake.

Also the Ukraine got destroyed by the JewSA, and their government was swept out in an illegal CIA coup.  But Russia is supporting the people of East Ukraine.  Also Russia is supporting Syria against the same cabal.  By those things that I can measure and discern, Russia is standing up for morality and nationalism.  That's what it seems like to me. 

Of course, I still question some things.  Like why does Russia still participate in this phony ISS space program? Why doesn't Putin tell the truth about 9/11? Etc...

--
I just remembered that another valid point on this topic was made by Bp Williamson.  He is of the opinion that we are not yet at the age of Antichrist.  Bp Williamson says that we are at the end of the 5th age of the Church, as described by the seven letters to the Churches at the beginning of the book of Revelation.  This age LOOKS like the age of the Antichrist, but Bp Williamson says it is a "dress rehearsal".  He says that there will be a great chastisement: WWIII? and/or 3 days of darkness; and then there will be a golden age.  The Golden age will be very short, and then the Antichrist and the end of the world. 

[Michael K.]

http://www.orthodoxchristianbooks.com/articles/535/russia,-putin-christian-values/


How has the faithful city become a harlot! It was full of justice; righteousness lodged in it, but now murderers...

Isaiah 1.21.



     The Sunday of All Saints of Russia is a good time to meditate on the contrast between the past glories and present degradation of this, the most important of Christian countries. Indeed, the contrast between pre- and post-1917 Russia is difficult to exaggerate. By far the greatest right-believing empire in history, Russia before the revolution stretched from the Baltic to the Black Sea to the Pacific Ocean, and had the fastest-growing population and fastest-developing economy in the world. Her armies, led by probably the finest man ever to sit on a throne from a moral point of view, protected one hundred million Orthodox believers within her own frontiers, and many millions more in the Balkans and the Middle East, while warding off revolution in the West. Within her frontiers she nourished great ascetics and saints, such as the elders of Optina and Valaam and St. John of Kronstadt; and she sent many missions led by holy men to foreign lands such as Persia, China, Japan, Alaska and the mainland United States.



     After the revolution, by contrast, Soviet Russia exported, not true faith and morality, but militant atheism, lies and murder on a vast scale. No regime in history has directly murdered so many of its own citizens, and indirectly the citizens of so many other countries around the world. The only consolation and hope in the midst of this unparalleled evil and misery was the vast choir of the Holy New Martyrs and Confessors of Russia, who from Priest John Kochurov of Chicago to James Arkatov of the Altai lit up the blackness of communism with the heavenly light of true sanctity.



     With the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, however, millions ardently hoped that the longed-for reversal, the resurrection of Holy Russia prophesied by several of the holy elders, was at hand. But then came the bitterest disillusion of all: after a democratic interregnum during the 1990s, the Soviet Union was born again on January 1, 2000 with the coming to power of the KGB colonel, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. Gradually at first (so as not to elicit too much unwelcome attention), but then more confidently and aggressively, both the symbols and the reality of Soviet power, laced with liberal lashings of Nazi-style fascism, have taken centre-stage once more.



     But with an important difference, a difference that has blinded the eyes and lulled the consciences of many Orthodox Christians: Putin claims to be the successor, not only of Stalin (whom he openly admires), but also of Tsar Nicholas II (although he recently called him "bloody Nicholas" out of ingrained habit). Out has gone the ideological apparatus of Leninist Marxism, and in has come Orthodox Christianity. And he has even claimed to be restoring "Christian values" to Russia by contrast with the decadent West...

     This holier-than-thou propaganda campaign began in about 2006, at about the time, as we now know, that he was preparing his invasion of Georgia. It intensified during the recent Kievan counter-revolution. And it is reaching an hysterical peak now, when Russia has annexed Crimea and is destabilizing Eastern Ukraine.



     The underlying pattern seems clear: when Putin realizes that he is about to lose favour with the West because of some imminent aggressive foreign policy move, he attempts to sow division among western intellectuals by eliciting those pro-Soviet and anti-American sentiments that have never been far beneath the surface of western life since at least the 1930s. This is an old trick used very effectively by Stalin – although he, unlike his admirer Putin, never claimed to be restoring Christian values! However, as we shall see, it is hypocritical to a supreme degree. Moreover, while the pro-gay propaganda of the West is indeed a very serious threat to the salvation of those living in the West, especially the school-age generation, supporting Putin can in no way be described as any kind of deliverance from it. On the contrary, the supporting of one extreme evil against another is simply jumping from the frying pan into the fire...



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     At the Valdai forum in 2013 Putin said: "We see that many Euro-Atlantic countries have de facto gone down the path of the rejection of... Christian values. Moral principles are being denied... What could be a greater witness of the moral crisis of the human socium than the loss of the capacity for self-reproduction. But today practically all developed countries can no longer reproduce themselves. Without the values laid down in Christianity and other world religions, without the norms of ethics and morality formed in the course of millennia, people inevitably lose their human dignity. And we consider it natural and right to defend these values."[1]



     The strange thing about this statement is that Putin seems entirely unconscious of the fact that with regard to the "Christian value" that he cites here, "self-reproduction", Russia performs worse than any western country. Thus even after taking migration into account, the twenty-eight countries of the European Union have a natural growth in population that is twice as high as Russia's! And if he is referring not to the balance between the birth rate and the death rate, but to homosexuality as a factor that by definition inhibits reproduction, then the situation is little better in Russia than in the West. For in spite of Putin's much-vaunted ban on pro-gay propaganda to minors, the vice remains legal among adults, and even flourishing in places from which it should have been banished first of all. Thus among the three hundred bishops of the Moscow Patriarchate, 50 according to one estimate (Fr. Andrei Kuraev) and 250 according to another (Fr. Gleb Yakunin) are homosexuals...



     The Lord said: "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy" (Luke 12.1). In relation to no other sin is the Lord as fierce as in relation to hypocrisy, and His contest with the Pharisees was the most critical of His life; it led literally to His death. Pharisaism is bad enough in the individual, alienating him completely from the life in Christ. It is even more dangerous when it seizes hold upon a whole people that has, or once had, the knowledge of God, and which then, in combination with the passions of hatred, resentment, wounded pride and xenophobic nationalism, exposes Orthodoxy to ridicule or disgust among the non-Orthodox nations. "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you", said the Prophet to the Jews when they were still the people of God (Ezekiel 16.27); and these words were echoed by the Apostle Paul in reference to the Jews of his time, when they had already fallen away (Romans 2.21).



     The same is true of contemporary neo-Soviet and neo-Fascist Russia, led by the Russian equivalents of Annas and Caiaphas, Putin and Gundiaev (the "Patriarch" of Moscow), whose Sanhedrin, the KGB, now controls Russian life more completely than at any time since 1917...



     Under the watch of these self-proclaimed guardians of Christian morality – both are dollar billionaires many times over, Putin mainly from the proceeds of oil and gas companies (some of them, like Yukos, stolen from their owners), and Gundiaev from the tax-free import of alcohol and tobacco – Russia, according to United Nations statistics cited by Vladimir Ruscher, occupies the following positions in the world league tables:



     1st in suicides of adults, children and adolescents;

     1st in numbers of children born out of wedlock;

     1st in children abandoned by parents;

     1st in absolute decline in population;

     1st in consumption of spirits and spirit-based drinks;

     1st in consumption of strong alcohol;

     1st in tobacco sales;

     1st in deaths from alcohol and tobacco;

     1st in deaths from cardiovascular diseases;

     2nd in fake medicine sales;

     1st in heroin consumption (21st in world production).



     These statistics show that Russia, far from leading the world in the practice of Christian virtue, is perhaps the most corrupt country of all. As regards general criminality, theft, corruption and murder (including abortion), Russia is very near the top of the league, and this not least because the government itself has taken the lead in these activities, making Russia into a mafia state run by and for a small clique of fantastically rich criminals. Thus the general picture is one of extreme moral degradation.



     No nation in such a catastrophic state should preach morality to others...



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     However, many Christians, both Orthodox and non-Orthodox, are unfazed by such revelations. The important thing for them is that, whatever her citizens practise, Russia, unlike the West, preaches Christian morality. Hence the support given to Putin even by conservative American evangelicals such as Pat Buchanan.[2] "We have to give him a chance," is the view. And if he succeeds, then Christianity as a whole is the winner...



     But this is a deeply mistaken and naïve point of view; for we have to ask ourselves, first: the chance to do what? The chance to transform the neo-Soviet and neo-Fascist Russia of today into the truly Orthodox Russia of tomorrow? But only someone in complete ignorance of Putin and his regime can believe such a myth. Can we really believe that Putin is like the Apostle Paul, and hat after working all his life for Sovietism (he calls the fall of the Soviet Union "a geo-political tragedy"), he has had a Damascus experience and is now working to undo the terrible things he has already done to the country and recreate Holy Russia like a new St. Constantine? Everything we know about him and his regime militates against such a view. As Putin himself once said, "once a chekist [KGB agent], always a chekist". And while there have been KGB agents who have repented of their sins, Putin is not one of them, and the penitent agents do not count him as one of their own...



     More fundamentally, however, this argument fails to appreciate the principle that God does not accept the praises of sinners, nor truth from the mouths of liars. The Lord strictly forbade the demons who confessed that He was the Son of God. And St. Paul similarly forbade the girl possessed with a Pythonic spirit who confessed, truthfully, that he was a servant of the Most High God (Acts 16.18). For truth uttered from lying lips only increases the credibility of the lying source, thereby increasing the overall deception. That is why we pray: "Let not the throne of iniquity have fellowship with Thee, which maketh mischief in the name of the law" (Psalm 93.20). Putin is trying to make his "throne of iniquity" have the appearance of being in fellowship with God. And he "maketh mischief in the name of the law", pursuing antichristian ends by putting himself up as a defender of Christian law.



     Archimandrite Cyril Zaitsev of Jordanville once remarked that the most terrible aspect of the Soviet yoke was not the open atheism, the mass murder of millions of believers and the destruction of churches, but the attempt to clothe all this horror and blasphemy in the guise of Christianity. He was thinking in particular of the Moscow Patriarchate, controlled since 1927 by the KGB and now headed by Agent "Mihailov", Patriarch Cyril (Gundiaiev). Boris Talantov, who died in a Kirov prison in 1972, called the MP an "agent of worldwide antichristianity".



     What we are witnessing now is the spreading of this "communist Christianity" from the official church to other sections of society. Many atheists in Russia now count themselves as "Orthodox", which shows that "Orthodoxy" tends to be a marker of nationality rather than religion. In Eastern Ukraine the Russian separatists are combining the cross with the hammer and sickle on the same banner, which is equivalent to worshipping Christ and Satan simultaneously. In February a "Russian Orthodox Army" began to be recruited – it now has 4000 soldiers – whose attitude to the Soviet Union is extremely positive. All this demonstrates that most Russians today – of course, there are always distinguished exceptions – are going backwards spiritually; the Soviet demon has not been exorcised; on the contrary, it is manifesting itself with exceptional vigour, because it knows that "it has only a little time left"...



    The real struggle today is not between Russians and Ukrainians, or Russia and the West, but between the real, Orthodox Russia and a resurgent Soviet Russia, possessed by the demon of "communist Christianity". That old struggle is not yet over; the evil empire is fighting back. And until victory has been achieved over it, there can be no real hope for victory for Orthodoxy anywhere else...



June 7/20, 2014.

New Hieromartyr Andronicus, Archbishop of Perm.


[1] Andrei Movchan, "Rossia i Zapad: kto moral'nee?" (Russia and the West: who is more moral?"),  http://slon.ru/russia/rossiya_i_zapad_kto_moralnee-1114248.xhtml, June 17, 2014.

[2] Buchanan, "Whose Side is God on Now?", http://buchanan.org/blog/whose-side-god-now-6337, April

[Christopher Marlowe]

That sounds like a Jew hit piece. 
1. It doesn't mention the Jews, who were responsible for the communist take-over and murder spree.
2. The "democratic revolution" was a disaster. During the reign of Yeltsin, the Jews stole everything. That was the age of the oligarchs. Putin got rid of many of them.
3. Putin stole Yukos from the true owners?  Does he mean the billionaire jew Khodorkovsky, that Putin put in jail for 10 years?
4. Putin stole Crimea and destabilized the Ukraine?  Michael, you can't really believe this? The US/Jews destabilized the Ukraine when it was getting too close to Russia. It is the Ukraine that is using military force against their own people in the east. 

That should be enough to show that this article is not worth reading.  It's just anti-Putin Jew garbage, IMHO. 

[Christopher Marlowe]

This is a little old, but I think it's still relevant:

http://reasonradionetwork.com/20070225/the-slavic-miracle-putin-bush-and-lukashenko-by-the-numbers-2007

The Slavic Miracle: Putin, Bush and Lukashenko by the Numbers (2007)

February 25, 2007

By Matt Johnson
As the sick and corrupt American media beat the drums for a new cold war over the Livitenko scandal, it might be worth approaching this from the only relevant region: that of money and power. It does not take a Russia specialist to figure out that Russia is under attack from both corrupt American parties, from both liberals and conservatives, from all media without exception over a murder where even Scotland yard, once their investigation was complete, claimed had "no evidence" behind it.

I have to laugh when I'm called a "conspiracy theorist:" it's an absurd, Orwellian slogan to stop the process of investigation. These same people have no difficulty picturing a conspiracy by the FSB to poison this former employee of Berezovskii, or dream up a conspiracy of 19 Arabs slaughtering Americans in New York. But whenever their sacred cows are gored, suddenly, "conspiracy" becomes a term of abuse.

The reality is that Russia has regained her super power status, and she has set her face against American expansionism abroad. Her economy is powerful, and a Russian led alliance of herself and China are preparing to confront the regime both economically and militarily. Russia is now the world's largest supplier of military hardware to the world, as well as the world's largest supplier of energy. She is strategically positioned near some of the world's future hotspots, including Central Asia, where trillions of dollars are waiting to be made through various pipeline projects traversing this nearly unknown region. The U.S. economy is utterly dependent upon U.S. control over these resources, and therefore, any hint of nationalism from the Russian side, no matter how harmless, will be dealt with through harsh condemnation and threats of war. This has been the main thrust of this web-journal since its inception 18 months ago: to defend Russia and the Slavic world from these attacks.

Therefore, Russia will be the target of even more shrill and sub-rational attacks in the future: and yes, it is a conspiracy, it is a conspiracy of the world's wealthy to destroy Russia's emerging world order, as a counterweight to the Atlantian World Order based in Washington and New York. Normally, such people, those represented at Bildeberg and Trilateral meetings do not provide the world with press releases, and, as a matter of course, their activities are known only through their results.

The Regime has normally two arguments it uses against Putin, both mutually contradictory. The first is that Russia has been mismanaged under Putin and his "fascism" and therefore, prosperity can only return when he is overthrown. The other argument is that Russia is too powerful, and she will harm the world's emergence into global democracy and "civil society," two buzz words never defined. Sometimes, these two arguments are uttered by the same person, and sometimes, in the same article. Yesterday, CNN featured the well paid, fraudulent media darling and lickspittle, Ariel Cohen  of the Heritage Foundation, angry at Lukoil's success in America, and Russian interests in the far east. The Regime is in hyper-mode, and the most irrational attacks against Russia are oozing out of every media corner, regardless of ideology. Cohen speaks of Russia's success as a threat to "democracy." This view is echoed at Fox News, CNN and the Brookings Institute. Ideology does not matter. But, for the record, let's see who pays Mr. Cohen's extremely high salary:

    In 2005, Heritage received an $800,000 grant from the Scaife Foundation, controlled by Mellon Oil.

    Another $700,000 from the DeVos Foundation, a Protestant Christian group that also funds the anti- Russian American Enterprise Institute (itself a front for oil interests).

Remember, Heritage is funded (and largely controlled) by the Bradley Foundation, who itself is largely the creator of the neo-con movement in America. Most "right-wing," neo-con, Fox news style pablum is controlled, funded and founded by Bradley. Bradley itself is extremely close to the Olin Foundation (itself a major funder of Heritage and neoconism in general, presently inactive), a major chemical and weapons concern, whose corporate parent is in direct competition with Russia. (For more information, see, as always, the ever helpful mediatransparency.org people, who track neocon money.) Much of this neocon money has gone into Russia baiting worldwide. It might also be worth mentioning that Olin has also, in the recent past, attempted to take over academia, giving Chicago, Harvard, Princeton and Georgetown a combined $72 million, which might explain the sudden appearance of neocon "respectability" on these campuses.

Now, it is very important, when tracing the real sources for silly neo-con anti-Russianism, to connect it with its corporate centers. All American politics is privatized, that is, funded by corporate interests, who are, to a man, hostile to Russia, Putin and Orthodoxy (unless its crazy Ukrainians). The Scaife Foundation is a center for oil interests in America. It seems, in terms of corporate control over politics, that big oil and big chemical have funded the neocons, while the usual suspects, Levi-Strauss, American Express, Coca-Cola, Xerox, Starbucks, AT&T and a host of others have taken over the Left, using it for their own purposes (cf. The Capitol Research Center for more information on corporate giving to Leftist causes). In other words, the establishment Left is largely AT&T and a AOL, while the establishment right is big oil. Let's see who else big oil has given to recently: The extremely anti- Russian Institute for Policy Analysis received almost $10 million this year from Mellon. Equally, the Center for Strategic and International Studies received almost the same. Heritage received, over the last few years, about $20 million. Tufts University received about $9 million. As an aside, Tufts has, in its campus newspaper, published anti-Putin screeds recently. Clearly there is a connection. I have been forced to respond to this on their university-controlled forum, with some very telling responses. I wondered why a poorly run student newspaper would care about Kuchma, Belarus or Putin in the first place, but now, you know. Big Oil has given millions to the Ethics and Public Policy Center, which, incidentally, funded much of the work of the Zionist, Beltway, neo-con "Orthodox priest," Al Webster of Virginia (who also works for Homeland Security, or so he tells me), who I confronted harshly after liturgy at a Greek church near me here in Pennsylvania, to the horror of the congregation, I'm happy to say. Big Oil has also given about $1.3 million each to two major anti-Russian outfits: the Jamestown Foundation and Freedom House, Inc. And check this out: apparently, big oil is behind something called the "Foundation for Defense of Democracies," (with a grant of $400,000 this year) which, in its Russia section, has this to say: "It's time we start thinking of Vladimir Putin's Russia as an enemy of the United States." All organizations have made hatred of Putin, and the fear of U.S. losing influence over the world's oil, the centerpiece of their bogus research. Without following the money, the sub-rational hatred of Putin and co. makes little sense.

The reality of it all is power, and power is a function of access to energy and sources of raw materials. What is the nature of the Russian economy? It has come under the typical vicious attack from the establishment conspiracy theorists, but the fact remains that Putin's legacy will be dictated, by Russians, through the extent to which the system was able to deliver the goods. Cracks are already visible in the armor of the American economy, and it is this market which ensures the United States a global place. The American economy is the lynch pin to the New World Order, and its massive debt and irrational spending habits will be its undoing. The dollar continues to lose value, and China, fully aware of how the game is played, are buying up truckloads of American paper, providing a weapon far more formidable than its nukes.

Russian economic growth is highly respectable under Putin. Over the last two years, the economy has grown almost by 14%, with a slight slowdown this year, 2006. Now, the problem with GDP is that it is a broad indicator, not providing the details necessary for a true evaluation for a country's economy.

Wages, of course, are the primary indicator, when corresponding to a cost of living: in Russia, wages have gone up by 10% in 2005, and another 7% in 2006. This means that Russia is becoming a powerful market, and is one not hampered by non-repayable debt. In fact, as far as the state goes, her budget surplus is substantial. This is far more a threat to U.S. hegemony than Russia's military, or her lack of "civil society." Keep in mind too, that, according to the World Bank, this spectacular rise in wages actually reflects disposable income rather than raw wages, a far more accurate index of "well being."

Making matters worse for the U.S., utterly dependent on being a market for cheap foreign goods, the Russian ruble appreciated by nearly 4% over the U.S. dollar, which itself is not really important since the falling dollar has been the rather muted central issue in international political economy in 2006. The ruble has appreciated against the Euro by nearly 18%. The actual payoff, however, is that countries such as China and the major oil producing states have decided to deal in Euros rather than dollars in their foreign exchange, slowly cutting the Federal Reserve out of its global role, which is another way of saying that this institution, a privately owned oligarchy of bankers, is being cut out by the Yuan, Euro and Ruble.

In terms of merchandise exports, Russia has a strong balance of trade, approaching nearly 100 billion rubles, and this is a strong predictor of currency strength; it amounts to nearly 8% of GNP. This is also one good reason why Russia should never become a part of Europe-wide economic institutions, given that Russia's economic strength guarantees her a great deal of international autonomy, and a position, given the abundance of raw materials, to remain aloof from Europe while still being able to enjoy her intercourse, borne from necessity, if from nothing else.

Contrary to media myth, while it remains true that raw materials (including energy) remain an important part of Russia's economy, the increase in manufacturing has strongly outpaced that of raw material extraction, by nearly 3%. Raw materials have increased about 1% over last year, while manufacturing increased by 5%. Therefore, increasingly, she is not nearly as oil dependent as the Wall Street Journal claims. All the while, her unemployment has gone down by about a percentage point over last year, to about 7.5% of the economically active population.

What about the other center of evil, Belarus? The news looks even better. Let's get to the numbers, for it's in the numbers that explain the screeching hatred the Regime has for Lukashenko, likely the most successful and popular politician (domestically) in the world.

In Belarus, according to the World Bank, the GNP has grown by about 10%. According to the extremely anti-Lukashenko CIA, their unemployment is the 6th lowest in the world, at about 1.2% as of today. Capital investments in Belarus have increased a shocking 35% this year. The IMF, another anti-Lukashenko elite outfit, has said that Belarus is a model for budget discipline, inflation control and a balanced approach to domestic investment. According to the UN, or more specifically, the UN's Industrial Development Organization, that, among the former CIS countries, Belarus has the highest index of annual industrial production growth, followed by Armenia and Kazakhstan. . .holds second highest after Russia index of annual industrial production growth per capita. . . has second highest after Ukraine (42 percent) index of share of industrial production in GDP (33.1 percent in the prices of 1995)." Apparently, Belarussians are not "languishing in tyranny" as George W. Bush has said.

According to the 2006 Global hunger Index, Belarus has the "lowest hunger index" among all "transition" economies. According to the UNAIDS, the UN organization dealing with the disease, "Belarus may become one of the first Eastern European country which will stop the spread of HIV/AIDS epidemic." Inflation stands at about 8%. Belarus, according to the World Bank, has the lowest poverty rate among "transition" economies. Infant mortality, one of the harshest and most telling of indicators in the global economy, is at about 6.5 per 1,000 according to the World Health Organization, which is slightly higher than the U.S. (And this includes continuing problems in neo- natal care in relation to radiation from Chernobyl).

In terms of "real wages" that is, wage rate adjusted for inflation and other distorters, the Lukashenko record has been astonishing. According tot he World Bank, the increases in real wages since 1997 have been the following, from 1997 on, inclusive: 14%, 18%, 7%, 12%, 29%, 7%, 3%, 10%, 16%, ending at 2005, adding up to over a 100% increase from 1997-2004. I wish I lived in a "tyranny" like that.

It might also be worth mentioning that, in trying to interpret the subrational hatred of Lukashenko in the western media and elite circles, that Belarus has a sort of specialty in the oil industry, where it now has the autarkic ability to maintain all aspects of the oil processing/refining industry. In other words, though having no oil itself, Belarus can now perform maintenance on all petroleum refining plants in Russia and elsewhere (especially Venezuela). Furthermore, according to official military sources, Belarus can also perform all possible maintenance on Russian military hardware, of whatever type. This makes Belarus indispensable not only to Russia, but to all militaries throughout the world using Russian equipment, including China. Talk about far-seeing industrial policy. Lukashenko may have been a bad collective farm manager (or so I hear), but he is a first rate economic strategist.

Just for laughs: lets look at the head of the snake: the U.S. 45 million Americans are without health insurance. 0 Belarussians are without health insurance. The U.S. has a 60 billion dollar trade deficit. Belarus and Russia have a trade surplus. 16% of Americans (i.e. 37 million Americans) live under the poverty line, far higher than in Belarus. For children, the American poverty rate is over 17%. (all stats from the Census Bureau) All American debt, i.e. private and public, is over $44 trillion, far more than the entire worth of the economy (about $7 trillion) and unrepayable. China holds much of this paper. 68% of this debt was created since 1990. Private debt (this is the sector where capitalists say the "rational influence of the market prevails") has reached $33.7 trillion, about 5 times the size of the above ground economy. This includes credit cards, corporate debt, etc. Next time you see someone in an SUV on her cell, remember this. The top 20% of households in America control almost 87% of the wealth. The bottom 60% (that means me and you) control a whopping 3.7% of the wealth, nearly 100% of which we create (according to the Survey of Consumer Finance, as the Census Bureau does not keep statistics on distribution). Keep in mind also that, according to studies too numerous top mention, the minimum wage, using 1966 as a base, and factoring in all increases in production from labor, should be almost $60 an hour. In other words, the minimum wage in 1966 was about $1.60. Factoring in increases in production, and using the adjusted 1966 figure as a base, the American minimum wage should be nearly 9 times what it is now. Where did that surplus go? Well, it is reflected in the distribution of wealth, the distribution of caffeine-free lattes, and in the combined wealth of Putin's enemies. Relatively speaking, American wages, adjusted for all distorting variables, have been declining since 1972.