Prothink & John

[Ognir]

I've blocked both of their accounts here on TiU

Do not upload any videos from John as we've had way too much exciting here recently and we've moved backwards imho and the Talmudic Jews are laughing at us.

Keep to what we can prove

Keep to what we need to expose

And just a little reminder to all, TiU is not a religious forum

Some new rules and code of conduct will be posted soon. The Admins are currently working on them

Og

[Ralph Furely]

like what, no tank tops?

[stoker]

Your not rebuilding the nuclear reactors are you Kim, sorry Og.

[K-Sensor]

How can you not talk about religion and Jews in the same argument.  The Talmud is religious and the glue to their ways.

The fact is the Kabbalah vs Christianity is the roots of all religious debate.  Eastern religions are just offshoots of the base knowledge, a la the inner enlightenment and dreaming linage since day dot.   MediterraneanEarlyCivilisation>Egyptian>Babylonia>East>Roman>NewAge

 Without the religious understanding you can't fathom the Illuminati nor the Bilderbergers, nor the Freemasons, nor the Zionists.

[Ognir]

K-Sensor,

Sorry wrote my piece kinda running out the door.  Since I made Khanverse an Admin here and he told me that his forums has way too much religious debate,  I thought I'd be preemptive a little.

As for Judaism being a religion,  that's not been proven to me yet. If you were to call it a cover for a crime network, then I'd go along with that.

[AbdulHaq]

like what, no tank tops?

:lol:

[K-Sensor]

K-Sensor,

Sorry wrote my piece kinda running out the door.  Since I made Khanverse an Admin here and he told me that his forums has way too much religious debate,  I thought I'd be preemptive a little.

As for Judaism being a religion,  that's not been proven to me yet. If you were to call it a cover for a crime network, then I'd go along with that.

Ok thanks for the reply.  I agree that there needs to be different levels of thinking, as that's compatible with the different stages people are in their lives, and their understanding of life.

[blueocean]

Maybe only true torah jews/judaism that follows the ten commandments like "thou shalt not kill"  is a religion.


The rest is.......hehe,  well we for the most part know what the rest is and it's fruits :evil:

[stoneskull]

i have lots of respect for ognir and khanverse and dbs.

i like this and what's happened in a way.

good move.

[K-Sensor]

I'm not sure any site should ban people else they risk losing contrasting opinions, therefore debate.

I also see the argument that if defensive-violence is not an answer, then the whole Movement will be categorised as being violent and possibility endangering players or the Movement itself.  Do John and Mike represent violence, well they haven't come across as that, but DBS is surmising they will.  Should we be heeding DBS's feelings?

[Ognir]

Cut thru the bullshit

If you think the Jews are going to end the world tonight, then follow John

But after 000's of years, some are trying to be smarter than the Talmudic Jews
We need to grow our numbers

Look at 911 Truther, bunch of fags imho
Spend more time debating No-Planers than really seeing what's going on

[Anonymous]

How can you not talk about religion and Jews in the same argument.  The Talmud is religious and the glue to their ways.

The fact is the Kabbalah vs Christianity is the roots of all religious debate.  Eastern religions are just offshoots of the base knowledge, a la the inner enlightenment and dreaming linage since day dot.   MediterraneanEarlyCivilisation>Egyptian>Babylonia>East>Roman>NewAge

 Without the religious understanding you can't fathom the Illuminati nor the Bilderbergers, nor the Freemasons, nor the Zionists.

do you really believe they are doing it because of what the Talmud says? a what, 2500 year old constantly evolving book?

it all seems like relentless pursuit of money, power and control to me,

i have trouble believing that if you took the talmud out of the picture these Monsters would just stop being as evil as they are...

[sullivan]

i have trouble believing that if you took the talmud out of the picture these Monsters would just stop being as evil as they are...

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.
Blaise Pascal (1817-1862)

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure any site should ban people else they risk losing contrasting opinions, therefore debate.

what is the contrast though?

we all agree about who the enemy is.

one tiny group wants to laud Hitler, talk about "striking first" against the hidden masters who have tier upon tier of armed bureaucracies, and say there are no good jews and the other group who are aware of the same facts (actually in more detail) don't agree with this position and can prove that historically, taking this route, has done more harm than good.

it's not like we're debating if the jesuits control bush or if its the jews.

[AK3N470N]

Og said:

As for Judaism being a religion, that's not been proven to me yet. If you were to call it a cover for a crime network, then I'd go along with that.

Brilliant observation, though I say so myself...

It is a good observation. Just seems contradictory to me. If Judaism is a cover for a crime network that would make all Jews members to that crime network. If this is the case, each member should be considered guilty in terms of investigation until proven innocent. Since we are dealing with a crime network called Judaism after all.

[AK3N470N]

From what I see of humanity as a WHOLE, I believe everyone should be considered suspect... why single out ALL jews, merely because 30 [?] or so (fake or pseudo-) 'jewish' families are at the pinnacle of the criminal pyramid?

So now you retract the comment you made earlier to which I quoted? Is Judaism a cover for a criminal network in your opinion or not...

I can think of more than 30 different last names that are Jewish and have a criminal tied to them. I'm still not sure why it seems people are scared to speak their mind over the internet.

[Anonymous]

^ more allegations of cowardice?

man.

how many can you name? 50? 100?

and how many are there? 10,000? 30,000?

[AK3N470N]

I'm not retracting anything -- I'm saying common 'jews' are as brainwashed and mind-controlled as your mother is. Go read 'Conspiracy For Race Riots and Revolution" by Gary Wean at iamthewitness... this conspiracy, although a conspiracy of certain jews, is also a conspiracy being carried out against the common 'jews'..

So then the statement about Judaism being a cover for a crime network wasn't that brilliant of a statement after all. I still think it is a good statement and yes there are going to be those who are brainwashed, that is the point of religion, crowd control. Not sure how you know my mother, but she isn't brainwashed or mind-controlled.

It's a conspiracy of Jews, using Jews and sell out Goyim as soldiers to attack the rest of the Goyim.

I'm sure if you formulated a plan to do some offline activism in the Jewish communities of your cities and towns you would be able to break the mind control conditioning from the common "Jew". Well I guess you could also try that online by visiting a forum that consists of Jews and Jewish ideas. Let them know they are being brainwashed by a small number of banking Jews who re-wrote Judaism so that all Jews would be branded evil. Since we can all agree that the Jewish problem and crime network starts with the Rothschild family and ends with the Khazar...  :roll:

[Anonymous]

Ognir,

I consider myself neutral in this or any other heated debate.  If possible, I take the opportunity to gather all the facts and then make an objective opinion - for myself.  I really do not like taking sides especially in the truth movement.  Right now, it is imperative that we stand together even if we do not always agree with one another.  This is your forum and you have the right to administer it based on your beliefs and principles, although, I am disappointed that you have made the decision to stifle the debate regarding Mike and John.  That does not mean that I agree with them 100%, it rather means, that if the forum is divided (maybe it isn't) shouldn't we explore the exact reasons for the division?  All of us seem to be on the same road, however, some like Mike and John have taken a more aggressive stance due to, I believe, America's heightened fast track into a police state.  The police actions during the political conventions and hurricane Gustav are clear evidence of that fact.  It's coming down to this - our very lives are being put into a more precarious situation with each passing day.  Hundreds of thousands of Americans are on some type of Homeland Security list, which means they are just waiting to round us up and place us in FEMA camps.  You might be safe in Switzerland, but WE in America are not and it's only a matter of time.  Time, therefore, is no longer a luxury.  Americans are going to be forced to act at some point.  How many Americans on this forum are ready and willing to just go quietly when the HS officers come for you?  I'm already living as an economic slave in Jewmerica and I will be damned before I allow their jack-boot thugs to haul me off to a detention camp because I don't agree with the government, yet, I have no weapons in my home. I have no obvious way to protect or defend myself - from them.  There is only one option left; forcing their hand so that they will have to take my dead body if they want me that bad.  That's not a death-wish it's the simple patriotic decision that I have made and hope and pray I have the courage to face, with honor, when the time comes.  Therefore, our differences seem trivial when facing overwhelming odds to survive or left to perish.

[AK3N470N]

Ognir,

I consider myself neutral in this or any other heated debate.  If possible, I take the opportunity to gather all the facts and then make an objective opinion - for myself.  I really do not like taking sides especially in the truth movement.  Right now, it is imperative that we stand together even if we do not always agree with one another.  This is your forum and you have the right to administer it based on your beliefs and principles, although, I am disappointed that you have made the decision to stifle the debate regarding Mike and John.  That does not mean that I agree with them 100%, it rather means, that if the forum is divided (maybe it isn't) shouldn't we explore the exact reasons for the division?  All of us seem to be on the same road, however, some like Mike and John have taken a more aggressive stance due to, I believe, America's heightened fast track into a police state.  The police actions during the political conventions and hurricane Gustav are clear evidence of that fact.  It's coming down to this - our very lives are being put into a more precarious situation with each passing day.  Hundreds of thousands of Americans are on some type of Homeland Security list, which means they are just waiting to round us up and place us in FEMA camps.  You might be safe in Switzerland, but WE in America are not and it's only a matter of time.  Time, therefore, is no longer a luxury.  Americans are going to be forced to act at some point.  How many Americans on this forum are ready and willing to just go quietly when the HS officers come for you?  I'm already living as an economic slave in Jewmerica and I will be damned before I allow their jack-boot thugs to haul me off to a detention camp because I don't agree with the government, yet, I have no weapons in my home. I have no obvious way to protect or defend myself - from them.  There is only one option left; forcing their hand so that they will have to take my dead body if they want me that bad.  That's not a death-wish it's the simple patriotic decision that I have made and hope and pray I have the courage to face, with honor, when the time comes.  Therefore, our differences seem trivial when facing overwhelming odds to survive or left to perish.

Excellent post. Yeah Switzerland seems to be pretty off radar in the scope of things. I'm not sure where everyone is from but I'd laugh if all those condemning violence aren't even in North America. I agree with you that we don't have much time. So people are gearing up to survive and coming up with the best worst case scenario plan, and are shot down for it. But the time is coming where you will have to make a decision as to whether you will get on your knees or fight and die on your feet.

It's easy to condemn another person's plan or idea, thinking of a more effective one is a whole other challenge.

[ThaTruth920]

Ognir,

I consider myself neutral in this or any other heated debate.  If possible, I take the opportunity to gather all the facts and then make an objective opinion - for myself.  I really do not like taking sides especially in the truth movement.  Right now, it is imperative that we stand together even if we do not always agree with one another.  This is your forum and you have the right to administer it based on your beliefs and principles, although, I am disappointed that you have made the decision to stifle the debate regarding Mike and John.  That does not mean that I agree with them 100%, it rather means, that if the forum is divided (maybe it isn't) shouldn't we explore the exact reasons for the division?  All of us seem to be on the same road, however, some like Mike and John have taken a more aggressive stance due to, I believe, America's heightened fast track into a police state.  The police actions during the political conventions and hurricane Gustav are clear evidence of that fact.  It's coming down to this - our very lives are being put into a more precarious situation with each passing day.  Hundreds of thousands of Americans are on some type of Homeland Security list, which means they are just waiting to round us up and place us in FEMA camps.  You might be safe in Switzerland, but WE in America are not and it's only a matter of time.  Time, therefore, is no longer a luxury.  Americans are going to be forced to act at some point.  How many Americans on this forum are ready and willing to just go quietly when the HS officers come for you?  I'm already living as an economic slave in Jewmerica and I will be damned before I allow their jack-boot thugs to haul me off to a detention camp because I don't agree with the government, yet, I have no weapons in my home. I have no obvious way to protect or defend myself - from them.  There is only one option left; forcing their hand so that they will have to take my dead body if they want me that bad.  That's not a death-wish it's the simple patriotic decision that I have made and hope and pray I have the courage to face, with honor, when the time comes.  Therefore, our differences seem trivial when facing overwhelming odds to survive or left to perish.

 I agree with whitewraithe... I voiced a similar opinion on khanverse phorum and was promptly told to STFU by Khanverse (respect lost).... yeah I see things daily in my city (and my workplace) that lets me know its only a matter of weeks if not days before the police state starts outright attacking the people and rounding them up. Everyone should have their opinion respected and the movement should stay together and not be divided. Like it or not holding hands and talking this out with the enemy (be it Jew or jack booted police thug) is not going to work when they come and take your family and friends. Judaism as a whole is poison to this world, however being a Jew/Khazar/Ashkenazi or what have you is not.... however they are the only people that practice Judaism... if they don't agree with this religion then they need to speak out and follow in the footsteps of those before them (Freedman, J. Bernstein, Fagan, Shamir, etc...)

I am very curious as to who on this forum is really prepared for what is to come? DBS told me 3 years ago in an email to buy a gun and many boxes of ammo and presently I own many guns and have quite a bit of ammo and supplies needed to survive... not only for me but my family and those that I am close too... how many here are prepared? I too don't like taking sides but I think this debate has seriously divided us...

[AK3N470N]

Listen friend -- why don't YOU go online and do that in ANY forum... you're wasting your time HERE, at least.. preaching to the choir, as it were... but why don't you go convince some poor, benighted goyim, will ya? good luck with that.. (you'll have almost as much success as you will w/ jews -- who are even more strongly mistaught / brainwashed / trained to resist the simple TRUTH... (you're not terribly sophisticated, are you? -- the problem is re-teaching people of all walks of life the truth. I just had dinner w/ my family and they all seem to think I'm whacked (to a certain extent). Mere mention of the 'jews'  and they recoil in fear and shock. CONDITIONING -- PROGRAMMING... And bring up the holocaust, forget it... they buy that horrible, SEE-Through fraud hook line and sinker, it seems [esp. my mormon family members.. that and the 'chosen people' BS].. the point is, teach -- not chase away from learning, &c. Badly stated, but try to follow...)

I already do that on other forums that have nothing to do with conspiracy and I have success. It's how you spread the message online by informing those who don't know. I can spread the message about Jews to my friends and people close to me and they don't call me crazy. Maybe your ego is so high that you have a hard time even getting people to listen let alone be convinced.  Or maybe your geographic location is more under programming than North America but online that shouldn't matter.

I'm the block head, and yet you seem to have a hard time convincing people of this TRUTH you will to bring to them. All the while claiming the alternative plan is to spread the message. Half stepping doesn't cut it pal.
This forum is about preaching to the choir. Some see this as a place to flex their intellect, but I had hoped this was a place for serious planning. But I'm sure the day is coming when you we will find a more "sophisticated" method for getting this job done...

[ThaTruth920]

Half stepping doesn't cut it pal.
This forum is about preaching to the choir. Some see this as a place to flex their intellect, but I had hoped this was a place for serious planning. But I'm sure the day is coming when you we will find a more "sophisticated" method for getting this job done...

Exactly... :!:

[Anonymous]

I voiced a similar opinion on khanverse phorum and was promptly told to STFU by Khanverse (respect lost)....

That's perfectly fine.  I wanted to end the hysteria and not have it become an orgy of uninformed opinionating giving life to unnecessary drama... Kinda like this thread and the other one have totally derailed the focus here and so few, yourself included, have offered up anything new to further the understanding of our problem.

yeah I see things daily in my city (and my workplace) that lets me know its only a matter of weeks if not days before the police state starts outright attacking the people and rounding them up.

I should put a date by that and put it in my sig and see if this is not more "feeling" paranoia... I feel like there's an attack coming too but I'm not gonna go as far out on the limb and say its gonna be a police state within days or weeks, only to come back feeling salty and say I was wrong, or just ignore it...

 

Everyone should have their opinion respected and the movement should stay together and not be divided.

There is NO UNITY when there is complete difference of opinion on how to handle a situation.  One group is calling for rounding up jews and forming compounds where a bunch of alcoholic nobodies are shooting guns all day and the other is saying inform the ignorant populace because preaching militancy toward the controllers is ridiculous when you have no means of accomplishing your objective...

like i said elsewhere, "get a few hydrogen bombs and the means to deploy them and then everyone will take you seriously when you talk shit to intergenerational esconsced power structure"

How can these two diametrically opposed opinions morph into a unified front? Can you please explain that?

Furthermore, instead of reasoning with us, via rational debate, I was attacked for being a jew (while wearing a hezbollah shirt, haha)  How intellectually bankrupt! And then if I respond to the slander we're all "infighting" in some gray area?

Like it or not holding hands and talking this out with the enemy (be it Jew or jack booted police thug) is not going to work when they come and take your family and friends.

Who is gonna come?

Jews?  

or their henchmen/attack dogs?

You just gonna fight the mindless attack dogs of which they have an endless supply?

Why not get PREPARED for contingencies while informing the attack dogs with something a little more stimulating than,

"JEW JEW JEW JEW JEW...

and if you don't believe me, YOU'RE A FUCKING JEW!"

Judaism as a whole is poison to this world, however being a Jew/Khazar/Ashkenazi or what have you is not.... however they are the only people that practice Judaism... if they don't agree with this religion then they need to speak out and follow in the footsteps of those before them (Freedman, J. Bernstein, Fagan, Shamir, etc...)

Shamir is a gatekeeper, Fagan never renounced Judaism, although was still a good man, and a "good jew"

I am very curious as to who on this forum is really prepared for what is to come?

What is to come? When? (you just said days or weeks)

And how do you know, exactly?

And how is it not dependent upon where you live?

All these assumptions that "The Jews" will put us in FEMA death camps, rip off our penises and make gentile blood sherbet are very debilitating.

In my view, its just as possible that we wake people up and there is mutiny within the ranks of the mindless attack dogs (congress, army, NG, police)

and "the jews" scurry like rats.

After all, you will have to get ordinary citizens to kill ordinary citizens... Given the statistics on the number of soldiers who shot their guns in WWII its,

quite a monumental task without any justification.  

How will they justify it? Can they?

I mean, their entire empire is based on the false premise of worthless paper.  

They have 1 dedicated leader and several puppets for HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of misinformed pawns who enable them.

Why isolate ourselves from those who will be used against us by preaching violence to the jew, enabling his victim status?

Am I crazy or what?

[Ognir]

For the record,   I've told no one to STFU and I appreciate all the different Points of View on the matter.

Personally I've not been comfortable with John's approach in recent week as many of you know.  I look on our struggle against the elite Jews over a slightly longer period of time and hope that I will continue fighting these bastards.

I fully understand the frustration out there against the Jews and I understand the "blame all Jew" as well. From my personal experience, it  can't be all Jews, as I've said many times, I know one that is salt of the earth IMVHO. 22 years ago after just one year in Switzerland, this guy helped me out with my studies.  He help me pay $10'ooo or so for my second year at computer school. I repaid my debt  several years later when my business took off. He never once asked to be paid back during all those years.

So it's a case of believing my own lying eyes. This guy exists in the real world and he's a great guy, period.  Now what am I supposed to do? Round the guy up because John made some videos??

This isn't being realistic!

Remember these evil fuckin Jewish sect/groups also have control of 200+ fuckin NUKES. So I'd love john to make another video and show us how the fuck we deal with that issue.

As I said the other day,  after 1,2 or 3 years of research and to have found the solution to the Jewish problem is very naive imo.

[joeblow]

On a purely intellectual, logical level, I have to agree with TiU's new policy, it can not be all Jews. But in all honesty, I have an extremely hard time controlling my emotions. For this reason, I will try not to post as much as used to, because I do not want to be a negative influence on the Best Conspiracy Research Forum in existence.

The one thing that I would like to remind people is that HHQ was trying to promote the current position which we support now. I see no more reason for him not to be part of TiU. If anyone is in contact with him, can you please ask him to take a look? I am sure that he will be pleasantly surprised and will return.

[sullivan]

I wanted to end the hysteria and not have it become an orgy of uninformed opinionating giving life to unnecessary drama... Kinda like this thread and the other one have totally derailed the focus here and so few, yourself included, have offered up anything new to further the understanding of our problem.

I very little in the way of uninformed opinionating in the two topics you mention.  From what I can see, everyone, myself and yourself included are guilty of not offering up anything new to further understanding of the problem.  The problem is deep-rooted and multi-facted, and like a hydra, you can attack one of its heads and another promptly pops up.

yeah I see things daily in my city (and my workplace) that lets me know its only a matter of weeks if not days before the police state starts outright attacking the people and rounding them up.

I should put a date by that and put it in my sig and see if this is not more "feeling" paranoia... I feel like there's an attack coming too but I'm not gonna go as far out on the limb and say its gonna be a police state within days or weeks, only to come back feeling salty and say I was wrong, or just ignore it...

I don't get it. What are you saying?  That vast majority of the Western World is not gearing up to become an outright police state?  What does it matter if it is hours away, days away, even years away?  The date may not be clear but the slide in that direction is absolutely apparent.

There is NO UNITY when there is complete difference of opinion on how to handle a situation.  One group is calling for rounding up jews and forming compounds where a bunch of alcoholic nobodies are shooting guns all day and the other is saying inform the ignorant populace because preaching militancy toward the controllers is ridiculous when you have no means of accomplishing your objective...

I have to agree with you there. Preaching militancy is pointless and perhaps even just macho posturing. However, preaching readiness is not pointless.

like i said elsewhere, "get a few hydrogen bombs and the means to deploy them and then everyone will take you seriously when you talk shit to intergenerational esconsced power structure"

The fact that those in power over generations have de-facto control of nukes doesn't mean that they won't eventually come a cropper when the 'slaves' have had too much.

Furthermore, instead of reasoning with us, via rational debate, I was attacked for being a jew (while wearing a hezbollah shirt, haha)  How intellectually bankrupt! And then if I respond to the slander we're all "infighting" in some gray area?

I've lost count of the number of times I have been accused of being a Jew over on WUFYS. It comes with the territory.

Like it or not holding hands and talking this out with the enemy (be it Jew or jack booted police thug) is not going to work when they come and take your family and friends.

Who is gonna come?

Jews?  

or their henchmen/attack dogs?

Probably the latter, given that the power-wielding group amongst the former lack a backbone.

You just gonna fight the mindless attack dogs of which they have an endless supply?

Where is the proof that there is an endless supply of mindless attack dogs? That theory can only be proven to be right or wrong when the fecal material hits the rotary oscillator.

Judaism as a whole is poison to this world, however being a Jew/Khazar/Ashkenazi or what have you is not.... however they are the only people that practice Judaism... if they don't agree with this religion then they need to speak out and follow in the footsteps of those before them (Freedman, J. Bernstein, Fagan, Shamir, etc...)

Shamir is a gatekeeper, Fagan never renounced Judaism, although was still a good man, and a "good jew"

If Fagan still believed in the doctrines of the Talmud - the "holy" books that have primacy in Judaism, then how can he be termed "good" (as in "decent")?  I'm not disagreeing, but I have to ask what makes Shamir a gatekeeper?  We can't give people grief for making bald-faced and unsubstantiated statements if we make them ourselves.

In my view, its just as possible that we wake people up and there is mutiny within the ranks of the mindless attack dogs (congress, army, NG, police)
and "the jews" scurry like rats.

That is the most likely outcome.

I mean, their entire empire is based on the false premise of worthless paper.

Who is "they"?

They have 1 dedicated leader and several puppets for HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of misinformed pawns who enable them.

Who is that one dedicated leader?

Why isolate ourselves from those who will be used against us by preaching violence to the jew, enabling his victim status?

Am I crazy or what?

Nope. I don't think you are. Jewish are human beings (even though their religious beliefs tell them otherwise) and deserve the same fundamental rights as anyone else. What I believe we should do is work to uncover the evidence that will undermine the tissue of lies that provides the foundation for that victim status. Violence should only ever be used to defend, and certainly not pro-actively.

[sullivan]

From my personal experience, it  can't be all Jews, as I've said many times, I know one that is salt of the earth IMVHO. 22 years ago after just one year in Switzerland, this guy helped me out with my studies.  He help me pay $10'ooo or so for my second year at computer school. I repaid my debt  several years later when my business took off. He never once asked to be paid back during all those years.

So it's a case of believing my own lying eyes. This guy exists in the real world and he's a great guy, period.  Now what am I supposed to do? Round the guy up because John made some videos??

That's the nub of the problem. Over the years I have also had Jewish acquaintances and colleagues who did not display any of the abhorrent traits of someone who believes in the supremacist doctrines of the Talmud. They were ordinary decent folk.  They may not have come out and exposed the evil that is the Talmud, as John seems to require of them in order to prove their "good jew" status, but it is clear they quietly and privately rejected that worldview.  Having said that, I have also been ripped-off in business  by someone from the tribe to the tune of as much as twice you received as assistance to pay your school fees, and I am sure the perpetrator felt their actions were perfectly justified by the "Kol Nidre".

[Anonymous]

On a purely intellectual, logical level, I have to agree with TiU's new policy, it can not be all Jews. But in all honesty, I have an extremely hard time controlling my emotions. For this reason, I will try not to post as much as used to, because I do not want to be a negative influence on the Best Conspiracy Research Forum in existence.

The one thing that I would like to remind people is that HHQ was trying to promote the current position which we support now. I see no more reason for him not to be part of TiU. If anyone is in contact with him, can you please ask him to take a look? I am sure that he will be pleasantly surprised and will return.

I thought he left because of the fixation on jewish crimes, rather than all crime?

that might have increased in his absense... (nothing wrong with it, follow the road where it leads)

i think rejecting "rounding up the jews" would have always been obvious...

[memory hole]

all this just boils down to "follow the meggage not the messanger"

both these guys have put excellent information into the arena, if you don't like what there putting out now, don't listen. If they are agents, I seriously doub't it.they have educated a lot of people on Zionism  so touche!

for me personally I don't buy the militia line or the blame all jews. This will send this movment even more "fringe" than it aready is.And give very easy ammunition to the forces that would love to cloase these sites down in an instant. YOu can only fight cunning with even more cunning, not violence.

Remember most people stop the conspiracy research when it comes to Zionism and the Jewish control issue. I almost did, but was compelled to go all the way, no matter how twisted it was.. For this reason alone, it should be put in context and always mentioned that "its not all the Jews involved" but a criminal cabal of zionists,jews,gentile puppets, for these people sakes. Break 'em in gently as they say.

If this isn't done, your gonna possibly scare away a lot of "seekers" before they can deprogramme the Zionist propoganda they've grew up with.

You can't expect Jewish people to be any better at cuttung through the centuries of propoganda than the rest of us. So to blame all of them is akin to blaming the rest of humanity that has been mindcontrolled to belive what there told to believe. Then this movment will never take off.

You don't (if you have a brain) blame all americans for the bombing of cambodia and Loas and the countless slaughters since.

Lets stop the infighting, and outing's and concentrate on the information and pushing it out, spec the missing links movie, which is by far the most hard hitting.

Mem.