The inventor of the internet is worried about the spread of conspiracy theories!

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From The Times September 16, 2008 Easily caught in a web of sinister untruths

The inventor of the internet is worried about the spread of conspiracy theories. A quick Google proved him right

David Aaronovitch

This, mostly, is the story of one morning spent on the internet, and what I found out. But let me first tell you why I was searching at all.

Yesterday Sir Tim Berners-Lee, one of the genius originators of the World Wide Web, announced the setting up of a new foundation, rather artlessly called the "World Wide Web Foundation", which body intends to research what has been happening on the internet, and make suggestions on how to improve it. Which is a very good idea.

Anyway, in the lead-up to the foundation of the foundation Sir Tim mentioned his worries about one aspect of weblife, the fact that, using the net, "a cult which was 12 people who had some deep personal issues suddenly find a formula which is very believable - a sort of conspiracy theory of sorts and which you can imagine spreading to thousands of people and being deeply damaging".

Of course, the dissemination of stupid ideas, and their equation with sensible ones, didn't need the internet. There are books and academics. When I recently referred to the "barking" theories of an American theologian concerning President Bush's supposed complicity in the 9/11 attacks, a senior professional in the psychiatric business wrote to me saying that he had found the theologian's works meticulously researched and "scholarly".

In fact what they were was "scholarish" in that they referenced dozens of sources and contained hundreds of footnotes. Once you chased down those references and sources you discovered that they were partial, distorted and, very often, referred back to the works of other conspiracy theorists. There was nothing scholarly about them.

The great MMR scare was, largely, a print panic caused by ignorant journalists and media folk who were unable to distinguish between an unsubstantiated theory on the one hand and a scientific consensus built around significant studies on the other. The result was an absolutely unnecessary loss of herd immunity from measles in some communities. Someone should be sued.

The MMR business, like aspects of the climate change debate, was aided by a boneheaded refusal to discriminate between better and worse arguments. On the one hand a scientist says X, on the other hand another one says Y, so X and Y are roughly to be accorded equal respect. You get this in the creationist versus evolution debate. For example one BBC News website item last week, "Who are the British creationists?", concluded its even-handed coverage of the debate by quoting a creationist vicar saying: "Evolution is a worldview that leads to futility. It's no wonder people are dissatisfied with it."

But "evolution" is simply not a worldview, It is, rather, the best scientific hypothesis we have, by miles, for how species develop. By contrast both creationism and its sly relative, intelligent design, are readily falsifiable by scientific method. Evolution stands up.

But you know, folks, why don't we just teach people what they want to hear? A bit of intelligent design next to evolution in biology, a bit of flat Earth versus round Earth in physics, a bit of anti-Semitism versus Judaism in RE. That'd be fair.

Speaking of which, here's my tale. At the weekend I was tidying up some footnotes for my book on conspiracy theories, which is to be published next spring. In one chapter I deal fleetingly with a dead American conspiracist called Harry Elmer Barnes, and mention his affinity with/for a French Holocaust denier called Paul Rassinier. I was after a date and found it after a quick Google, but not before noticing that the Rassinier biography on Wikipedia, the online encyclopaedia, was a little bit odd. I let it go. Then, yesterday, I read Berners-Lee's comments and returned to the site.

I was right - righter, in fact, than I had realised. The biography begins with what seems to be a neutral introduction, but is in fact a selective description of Rassinier as a pacifist, activist, as anti-Nazi, a former concentration camp prisoner, and then, at the end of the introduction, comments that Rassinier has "come to be remembered for his views on the Holocaust, which have caused some to call him the 'father of Holocaust Denial'". Note that "some", as opposed to the positive things - pacifist, activist, prisoner - that Rassinier can be called without qualification.

What then happens is a process whereby the entry's authors suggest a scholarly neutrality while, at the same time, normalising Rassinier's easily refutable views on the Holocaust. For example, Rassinier believed there was no deliberate Nazi policy of extermination of the Jews and no gas chambers. And we find, in the text, some support for this view cited in the works of "Princeton historian, Arno J. Mayer". There is a short extract from Mayer's own book, warning readers that "sources for the study of the gas chambers are at once rare and unreliable", that "there is no denying the many contradictions, ambiguities, and errors in the existing sources" and that "most of what is known is based on the deposition of Nazi officials and executioners at postwar trials and on the memory of survivors and bystanders".

It's pretty clear what you're supposed to take from this: that Rassinier's argument about there being no gas chambers should be taken seriously. So I then Googled Mayer. The first thing I discovered was that exactly this selection of quotes from Mayer's work appeared on Holocaust-denial and neo-Nazi websites. The next thing I found out was that Mayer himself is a deeply controversial historian of the period, having argued that more Jews died of diseases in the camps than were murdered, and that the extermination was more a consequence of Nazi anti-Bolshevism than of anti-Semitism. The first contention is unsupported, the second is ludicrous.

But even given that, the Mayer quote was doctored. Mayer certainly believed that the gas chambers were real and that untold thousands had been killed in the death camps, but the nature of Mayer's qualification was withheld from Wikipedia readers. As was the fact that Rassinier's biographer, Jean Plantin, whose work was used for much of the Wikipedia entry, was fined and given a suspended prison sentence in Lyons in 1999 for Holocaust denial. You have to go to the French edition of Wikipedia to find that out.

So it took me an instinct, one morning, three hours, and a background in this material, to realise that the Rassinier Wikipedia biography - the first item on Rassinier that appears when you search for his name - had probably been written by someone with sympathies for the Holocaust denial camp of David Irving. The uninitiated, however, would never know, for not once does this poisonous bias break cover.

One of Berners-Lee's ideas was for a kind of Kitemark - or series of Kitemarks - of website quality. This wouldn't be centrally administered, but, presumably, would be applied by organisations wanting their websites to satisfy certain standards. Certainly widely used sites such as Wikipedia should have some method for expert evaluation and certification or, where sites have not been evaluated, for adding a serious intellectual health warning. Of course people must learn to discriminate themselves, but it would be naive to suppose that they won't need some help. Yesterday's small trawl suggests to me that it can't come a moment too soon.

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sullivan

QuoteInventor of the internet is worried about the spread of conspiracy theories
Berners-Lee is not the inventor of the internet. He is the inventor of the web.

QuoteThe inventor of the internet is worried about the spread of conspiracy theories. A quick Google proved him right
Let me guess, they found some opinions out there that have not been officially sanctioned.

QuoteDavid Aaronovitch
Surprise, surprise. Aaronobitch is a pompous and bellicose 'commentator' whose politics have, like many of his former comrades on the left, drifted more and more into quasi-fascist Zionist rhetoric.  No broadsheet newspaper reader is spared his opinions, no TV debate is complete without his pontificating.  Needless to say, the value of the rest of this article is seriously called into question by dint of its authorship, let alone the views it expresses.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as \'international bankers.\' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John F. Hylan (1868-1936) - Former Mayor of New York City

memory hole

what a sickening read, controlled debate from the ZIo slaves, again a futile atempt to link holocaust denial with 9/11 research to dupe the UK, Read the comments underneath though, people are starting to understand little by little.

K-Sensor

Quote from: "MikeWB"
QuoteIn fact what they were was "scholarish" in that they referenced dozens of sources and contained hundreds of footnotes. Once you chased down those references and sources you discovered that they were partial, distorted and, very often, referred back to the works of other conspiracy theorists. There was nothing scholarly about them.

He must be talking about Holocaust stories.  They reference each other to back up claims.  No facts, just hear say repeated between people and their books.

Ognir

Fuck'em,

Cern invented the WWW and they can't even keep a small $8 BILLION project running

¨You have the scientists and you have the rest of us.

Actually I heard the guy say that on BBC World radio and I'll say what I said when he said it, fuck OFF

Pandora's box
Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

Rockclimber

It's the old canard usage of "conspiracy theories". They have to hit Joe public with that word every now and again to keep them in check. God forbid if anyone challenges history. I say their panicking.

satya

This piece was probably done to condition the masses when they start locking down the internet.  They are constantly grooming and manipulating us.

kolnidre

The comments must have gotten too negative. They've been limited to 22 total for over a day now. More censorship.

An absolutely disgusting piece of junk journalism from another self-"chosen" guardian of thought. He doesn't even deserve a job at a high school paper.
Take heed to yourself lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither you go, lest it become a snare in the midst of you.
-Exodus 34]

Anonymous

Quote from: "Rockclimber"It's the old canard usage of "conspiracy theories". They have to hit Joe public with that word every now and again to keep them in check. God forbid if anyone challenges history. I say their panicking.

Newspeak term conspiracy theories

Anonymous


Canard

Quote from: "Rockclimber"It's the old canard usage of "conspiracy theories". They have to hit Joe public with that word every now and again to keep them in check. God forbid if anyone challenges history. I say their panicking.

fuckin canards
don\'t believe that Anti-Semitic Canard.
DFTG!

sullivan

Quote from: "JohnSavage"I am confused. I thought Al Gore invented the internet.
Al Bore invented the internet and globAL warming. Berners-Lee invented the WWW.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as \'international bankers.\' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John F. Hylan (1868-1936) - Former Mayor of New York City

jai_mann

Hey all. The "conspiracy theory" phrase is what we call in behaviorism a conditioned stimulus. These assholes are using behaviorism mixed in with their propaganda to condition people's attitudes. In 1968, Bruce Weiss did a study which indicated that human attitudes could be conditioned in the same manner that dogs can be conditioned to speak or sit.

So here's the simple break down and keep in mind that behaviorism is a hard science with over 100 years of studies backing up the techniques employed.

There are bodily and mental reactions which occur with out our control when in the presence of certain stimuli. The classic example is the eye blink. The eye blink occurs if a puff of air is applied to the eye. In this situation the eye blink is termed the Unconditioned response(UCR) and the puff of air is the Unconditioned Stimulus (UCS). Using Pavlovian respondent conditioning we can pair the puff of air with an auditory tone. Eventually we can just sound the tone and the subject will blink with out the air. At this point the tone is a conditioned stimulus.

That is all these assholes are doing except they have conditioned the phrase "conspiracy theorist" to elicit emotional responses of doubt or derision towards those labeled as such. They are taking it a step further and doing something called chaining when they try to link "holocaust denial" (another conditioned phrase) with the 9/11 truth movement.

I highly recommend people learn the basics of behaviorism. It's really easy and you can spot people using these loaded or conditioned phrases all the time in the media. You can point out the technique to friend's and family. Education is a good thing since the "chosen" rely heavily upon eliciting conditioned responses from the unthinking masses.