Wait 60 years for this fabrication

[Ognir]

Auschwitz plans found in Berlin flat


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -flat.html

A complete set of original plans for construction of the Nazi death camp Auschwitz have been found in a flat in Berlin, according to a report in Bild newspaper.
Last Updated: 8:49AM GMT 10 Nov 2008

 Blueprint of death: drawn by SS technicians and inmates  Photo: REUTERS
SIMON NORFOLK
Discovery of Auschwitz blueprint further discredits Holocaust revisionists Photo: SIMON NORFOLK

The 28 yellowing blueprints show an 11.66 metre by 11.20 metre room marked "Gaskammer" (gas chamber). The plans also include a crematorium and a room marked "L. Keller" - an abbreviation for "Leichenkeller", or corpse cellar.

Hans-Dieter Kreikamp, head of the federal archives office in Berlin, told Bild that the blueprints offered "authentic evidence of the systematically planned genocide of European Jews".

The plans also offer evidence that the Nazis planned the Holocaust from an earlier date than previously believed.

The decision to kill Europe's 11 million Jews has historically been dated to the Wannsee Conference in January 1942. A copy of the minutes, known as the "Wannsee Protocol", is generally regarded as one of the most important documents from the war.

But the newly discovered Auschwitz plans, published ahead of the 70th anniversary of the Kristallnacht purge against Jews, are dated Oct 23, 1941, offering evidence that the Nazis had developed plans to kills Jews on a mass scale earlier than previously thought, the newspaper said.

The plans of the death camp, which was built near Krakow, in Poland, were drawn by SS technicians and inmates.

Dr Kreikamp said one green ink sketch on the plans appears to be in the hand of SS chief Heinrich Himmler.

Dr Kreikamp said he attached "extraordinary meaning to the documents".

He added; "The documents reveal that everyone who was concerned with the planning and building of the extermination camp would have known that human beings were to be put to death here on an industrial scale.

"The documents disprove beyond all doubt that which Holocaust deniers claim - that Auschwitz was nothing more than a labour camp where no gassing took place."

The planning documents are to undergo further research at the federal archive before being turned over to scholars interested in using them.

[joeblow]

The question begs to be asked, "Was it written with a ball-point pen, a la Anne Frank?". Gaskammer :lol:

[high_treason]

They might use a pencil this time

but this still doesn't explain why the revised numbers....what was the last count 100,000 (not all of them are jews)....so this fabrication doesn't really explain it. Also what about the absense of gas chambers? So what happened they forgot to build the chambers? Or did the Nazis have a time machine and used it to go in to the future build the rooms so Poland can get kosher shekels for its tourism?

Fuck the holocaust

[Mac Seafraidh]

[LatinAmericanview]

Mac Seafraidh awesome post! This really raises the level of debate! I am sure more moderate people searching for answers find your post enlighting. It certainly add credibility to TIU! Thanks Mac.  On a more serious note- Ognir objectively shows how easily history is manipulated.  Relatedly, I wonder how many Talmud worshipers are aware of the phony nature of the holocaust.

[Mac Seafraidh]

Mac Seafraidh awesome post! This really raises the level of debate! I am sure more moderate people searching for answers find your post enlighting. It certainly add credibility to TIU! Thanks Mac.  On a more serious note- Ognir objectively shows how easily history is manipulated.  Relatedly, I wonder how many Talmud worshipers are aware of the phony nature of the holocaust.

Not a problem man. Thanks, I appreciate the salutations. Yeah, I kinda think "History" should be called Shitstory since it is full of lies.

[LatinAmericanview]

Mac Seafraidh awesome post! This really raises the level of debate! I am sure more moderate people searching for answers find your post enlighting. It certainly add credibility to TIU! Thanks Mac.  On a more serious note- Ognir objectively shows how easily history is manipulated.  Relatedly, I wonder how many Talmud worshipers are aware of the phony nature of the holocaust.

Not a problem man. Thanks, I appreciate the salutations. Yeah, I kinda think "History" should be called Shitstory since it is full of lies.

History is just as story. The story is manipulated to meet the political needs of the present. Currently, we are in the False Jewish Era. Howeveri n order to get people to notice one need not appeal to emotionalism- it cheapens our position.

Cheers

[Mac Seafraidh]

Mac Seafraidh awesome post! This really raises the level of debate! I am sure more moderate people searching for answers find your post enlighting. It certainly add credibility to TIU! Thanks Mac.  On a more serious note- Ognir objectively shows how easily history is manipulated.  Relatedly, I wonder how many Talmud worshipers are aware of the phony nature of the holocaust.

Not a problem man. Thanks, I appreciate the salutations. Yeah, I kinda think "History" should be called Shitstory since it is full of lies.

History is just as story. The story is manipulated to meet the political needs of the present. Currently, we are in the False Jewish Era. Howeveri n order to get people to notice one need not appeal to emotionalism- it cheapens our position.

Cheers

Yup, I wholeheartedly agree with you on that.

[Travis]

I guess this has been already refuted?




http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1035958.html

A leading expert on Auschwitz on Sunday denigrated the importance of the finding of plans for the construction of the extermination camp, which was reported this weekend in the German tabloid Bild. He said the documents have been known to scholars for many years and that they were not plans to build the extermination camp of Auschwitz-Birkenau, but rather earlier plans for the building of a forced labor camp.

[Shiksa Rage]

They are freakin out. Documentaries such as David Cole's, and Dr Toben's compelling "Judea declares war on Germany", which are freely available to view on the internet, are seriously undermining the official "Holocaust" story. It seems to me that they can see their cash cow about to be slaughtered - and it won't be kosher - so they are desperately scraping the barrel to try and give credibility to their tired "Holocaust" yarns.
The Telegraph is reckoned to be a high quality broadsheet in the UK. If their readorship is so dumbed down as to believe this stunt, then God help us all.

[Mac Seafraidh]

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[Ralph Furely]

god help us indeed.
"Judea declares war on Germany" - thats one of if not the best as far as im concerned.  i thought it did an absolutely fabulous job at exposing that shit.  
that along with the David Cole shit, you just cannot refute that information.

also....

Mac Seafraidh awesome post! This really raises the level of debate! I am sure more moderate people searching for answers find your post enlighting. It certainly add credibility to TIU! Thanks Mac.  On a more serious note- Ognir objectively shows how easily history is manipulated.  Relatedly, I wonder how many Talmud worshipers are aware of the phony nature of the holocaust.

am i the only one picking up the sarcasm here?  or what....
lol

ppl post that silly shit on my 'wall' from time to time cuz they think i think its funny, because of what im into.  i promptly delete that shit.  
that kinda stuff makes us look bad man.  real bad.  

no disrespect to Mac there, but yea, its not doing us any good to have that stuff in threads.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Please note that Germans were sticklers for detail in their architectural drawings. This means that they likely would include as much detail as possible to demonstrate "Operationally" how things were to occur and the overall purpose for construction.  In these blueprints, they have a so-called name for each building but you don't see "arrows" and drawn "people" and "smoke" or "gas" to indicate that massive numbers of people were going to be put to death in these buildings.  It would be difficult and not at all possible to design the building if one didn't have a clear, and shared understanding of their ultimate purpose.  Of course, all internment camps had a crematorium and delousing chambers which makes me dubious about the descriptions of the blueprints.  I will say it once again -- UNLESS SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE DEVELOPS AN INTERACTIVE SIMULATION using a REAL-LIFE PHYSICS ENGINE ON THE LEVEL OF HALF-LIFE 2, GTA 4, FALLOUT 3 --  YOU CANNOT BELIEVE THEM AT ALL...  Yes some people were killed in the CAMPS but the camps were "WORK" camps NOT DEATH CAMPS. THE JEWISH VERSION OF THIS STORY AND THE NUMBERS PUT FORTH BY JEWS IS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE. IT IS OPERATIONALLY IMPOSSIBLE AT ANY OF THE CAMPS TO GET THE NUMBERS THEY CLAIM.

BESIDES, THE GERMANS HAD FUEL AIR BOMBS -- if a Holocaust were really going to happen then the Germans probably would have put all the Jews they could find in a large field and just firebomb the place with a firestorm.  But a Holocaust like that never happened to Jews --- HOWEVER, it did happen to Germans thanks to the British bombers.  (Sorry for the caps on this but I'm really P----- about this idiot S***!!! The gloves are off.).


Look at Call of Duty to be release on Nov. 10. They could have added a "REAL" Holohoax Module to this game.  http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_vie ... =3&popup=1

[Mac Seafraidh]

Julius Streicher, editor of Der Sturmer, was another Jewish homosexual.
His real name, Abraham Goldberg, was publicized on his hanging
on 16 October 1947, after the Nuremberg trials (Bronder, op.
cit.).

- ibid (pg. 406)

Get that "Hitler = anti-zionist hero" bullshit out of here, mac, and try reading (and comprehending) some REAL history books my boy... (might as well start by reading pgs. 356-453 of Lina's book -- although there's plenty more IF you're honestly interested in learning the TRUTH, &c.)

I like those anti-German, Jewish lies from the books you read. Leftists that try and connect the Zionist terrorists with the great German nationalist Third Reich fail. Streicher was no homo unless ol'Hymie is pulling on the strings of history.

[Mac Seafraidh]

god help us indeed.
"Judea declares war on Germany" - thats one of if not the best as far as im concerned.  i thought it did an absolutely fabulous job at exposing that shit.  
that along with the David Cole shit, you just cannot refute that information.

"Judea Declares War On Germany" = Dr. Fredrick Töben

 ... and Töben has even made films on the typical Asiatic traits of the Jewish people. Did a great piece on the kosher tax as well.

no disrespect to Mac there, but yea, its not doing us any good to have that stuff in threads.

No disrepect, but ... There you have it, some disrespect. Don't contradict yourself.

"Freedom of Speech?" A little humor every once in a while? You must be an extremely upset that I really dislike the Jews. I do not care to hear your "can we delete this?" insult. Total arrogance and typical Jew whiny nausea created.

[Mac Seafraidh]

And you're clearly a fraud or a fool... I suggest you're both. Naziism was 100% a jewish/ zionist construct, and hitler was their 100% jewish banker financed and propped up tool -- to DESTROY Germany. Take it back to Vanguard Hymie... I mean homey.

Lies. Remember, this is not a one world order and have the option to reject whatever spaced out research that you dish out at me.

[Ralph Furely]

huh??  back the fuck up a little here bud.  i was being nice and fucking respectful towards you up until now.  you come back with these insults?  fuck you.
you can talk about freedom of speech and a little humour all you want.  this site is important to all of us here and i think its fucking bullshit for you to be posting
stupid fucking cartoons like that.  and that one wasnt even funny anyway.

i was being nice, i had no problem with you.  it is you that sounds like the one reading a fucking talmud right now.  not i.  i was polite, i made a comment, expressing how i felt about that kidna shit in here.  does no one any good.  and you come back at me like this?  seriously bud, fuck you.  i dont give a fuck who you dislike.  go dislike them with your stupid cartoons elsewhere if you feel the need.  your on a public forum with lots of other ppl.  that bullshit is unneeded.  didnt john and mike get kicked off of here for generalizing shit?  you come on here with that carton>?  fuck off.

this shit is pissing me off; i was being more than nice there.  you sound like a real prick tho.  go fuck yourself.

[Mac Seafraidh]

huh??  back the fuck up a little here bud.  i was being nice and fucking respectful towards you up until now.  you come back with these insults?  fuck you.
you can talk about freedom of speech and a little humour all you want.  this site is important to all of us here and i think its fucking bullshit for you to be posting
stupid fucking cartoons like that.  and that one wasnt even funny anyway.

i was being nice, i had no problem with you.  it is you that sounds like the one reading a fucking talmud right now.  not i.  i was polite, i made a comment, expressing how i felt about that kidna shit in here.  does no one any good.  and you come back at me like this?  seriously bud, fuck you.  i dont give a fuck who you dislike.  go dislike them with your stupid cartoons elsewhere if you feel the need.  your on a public forum with lots of other ppl.  that bullshit is unneeded.  didnt john and mike get kicked off of here for generalizing shit?  you come on here with that carton>?  fuck off.

this shit is pissing me off; i was being more than nice there.  you sound like a real prick tho.  go fuck yourself.

It's only the internet pal, have a little fun on it. Don't sound like you are going to put a gun to your head ...

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Mac S. is just making a point. With the Jews leading the bankruptcies world wide and leading US intelligence agencies with the likes of Chertoff -- it is time to take a stand. Either you find meaning in religion, leaders of the past or leaders of the present - but the Zionists will turn the world into their Palestine with the last Goyim becoming the last Modern Palestinian if you let them. It is the Protocols people. At heart, you are an animal to them. Remember that in 1919-21 Germany witnessed the starvation of over one million young people due to the Allied Blockade that revolved around Idiot Jews at Versailles. All Germans remembered this one after the war.  Keep an eye open as things economically go to hell in handbasket.  

Hateful views of Jews as being subhuman did not have to be invented by Nazi theorists such as Hitler, Goebbels, Rosenberg and Streicher. This ideology was simply adapted from statements of political Zionists such as those found in the writings of the Zionist Yehezkel Kaufman in 1933.
     
Nahum Goldberg

In 1920 there were statements hostile to Jews expressed at Heidelberg University. These statements, arguing that Jews of Germany had caused the turmoil that followed the war; that the Jews of Germany had nothing in common with Germans, and that Germans had the right to prevent the Jews of Germany from intruding into the affairs of their volk were not made by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, but by Nahum Goldmann, who went in to become the President of the World Zionist Organization and head of the World Jewish Congress, and, indisputably, the most influential political Zionist in the world, second only to the Prime Minister of the State of Israel. (kind of sounds like the USA today...)

In 1921, Germans in Germany were told that:

    "We Jews are aliens... a foreign people in your midst and we... wish to stay that way.  A Jew can never be a loyal German; whoever calls the foreign land his Fatherland is a traitor to the Jewish people".

Who spoke these vile words? It was Jacob Klatzkin, the second of two political Zionist ideologists in Germany at the time, where the Jews of Germany were enjoying full political and civil rights.  It was he who had advocated undermining Jewish communities as the one certain way of acquiring a state.  "They had no qualms concerning tearing down the existing Jewish communities."

Who spoke in a public address at a political Zionist meeting in Berlin and declared that "Germany... has too many Jews"?  Was it Hitler or Goebbels? No, it was Chaim Weizman, later to become the first President of the State of Israel.  This address was published in 1920, and, thus, four years before Hitler had even written Mein Kampf.

How many Zionist Jews know of this vicious treachery uttered by these senior political Zionist leaders, these apostates from the Jewish People?  At the Nuremberg Trials of Major War Criminals, Nazi propagandist, Julius Streicher testified:  "I did no more than echo what the leading Zionists had been saying", it is clear that he had told the truth.

In addition to Hitler, Rosenberg, Goebbels and Streicher, many other Nazi leaders used statements from Zionists to validate their charges against the Jews of Germany.  Such are the efforts of Zionist leaders to this very day to maintain a high degree of anti-semitism in order to enable them, in feigned horror, to then point to anti-semitism to support their idolatrous and anti-Jewish cause. In 1963, Moshe Sharett, then Chairman of the Jewish Agency, told the 38th Annual Congress of the Scandinavian Youth Federation that the freedom enjoyed by the majority of Jews imperiled Zionism, and at the 26th World Zionist Congress, the delegates were told that the Jew is endangered by the easing of anti-Semitism in the United States  "We are endangered by freedom" he declared. (Well don't piss us off with Wars for Israel instigated by NeoCons)

http://www.zionist-watch.net/articles/82.html

[Canard]

god help us indeed.
"Judea declares war on Germany" - thats one of if not the best as far as im concerned.  i thought it did an absolutely fabulous job at exposing that shit.  
that along with the David Cole shit, you just cannot refute that information.

"Judea Declares War On Germany" = Dr. Fredrick Töben

 ... and Töben has even made films on the typical Asiatic traits of the Jewish people. Did a great piece on the kosher tax as well.

no disrespect to Mac there, but yea, its not doing us any good to have that stuff in threads.

No disrepect, but ... There you have it, some disrespect. Don't contradict yourself.

"Freedom of Speech?" A little humor every once in a while? You must be an extremely upset that I really dislike the Jews. I do not care to hear your "can we delete this?" insult. Total arrogance and typical Jew whiny nausea created.

fuck that

[LatinAmericanview]

huh??  back the fuck up a little here bud.  i was being nice and fucking respectful towards you up until now.  you come back with these insults?  fuck you.
you can talk about freedom of speech and a little humour all you want.  this site is important to all of us here and i think its fucking bullshit for you to be posting
stupid fucking cartoons like that.  and that one wasnt even funny anyway.

i was being nice, i had no problem with you.  it is you that sounds like the one reading a fucking talmud right now.  not i.  i was polite, i made a comment, expressing how i felt about that kidna shit in here.  does no one any good.  and you come back at me like this?  seriously bud, fuck you.  i dont give a fuck who you dislike.  go dislike them with your stupid cartoons elsewhere if you feel the need.  your on a public forum with lots of other ppl.  that bullshit is unneeded.  didnt john and mike get kicked off of here for generalizing shit?  you come on here with that carton>?  fuck off.

this shit is pissing me off; i was being more than nice there.  you sound like a real prick tho.  go fuck yourself.

Dear Ralph,

The stupid cartoons are for the intellectually challenged that need pictures instead of words. Mac and people of his ilk are talking to a particular audience. The Vangaurd and Stormfront crowd.  Some people need a little hate with their propaganda. Additionally any sense of respectability and intellectual honesty is secondary to the punchline. In a way, this is similiar to the who the Jews used the weight of America's contradiction to implode it. In short we have to allow absurd points of view in order to preserve "Free Speech" while being simultaneously degraded by the stupidty  of their ideas.  Thanks Mac and Canard for demonstrating this valuable lesson. If you still don't get it please list to the Joe Blow Show!