More Jewish Revisionism from Auschwitz

[Ognir]

IDF chief leads 10,000 young Jews in March of the Living at Auschwitz
By Haaretz Service and The Associated Press
Tags: Holocaust, Israel

Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi on Thursday led some 10,000 young Jews, Poles and Holocaust survivors in the March of the Living, an annual event held at the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz-Birkenau.

It was the first time an IDF commander has led the international program for Jewish teens.

Education Minister Yuli Tamir and Chelsea Football Club manager Avram Grant also participated in the event.

This year's march, the 17th, started with the blowing of the shofar, or ram's horn, at the iron gate - crowned with the words Arbeit Macht Frei, or Work Sets You Free - that leads into the former camp of Auschwitz.

Traditionally, participants carry white-and-blue Israeli flags and are led by some camp survivors on their two-mile trek between Auschwitz and Birkenau, another area of the camp that is the site of wooden barracks and ruins of the gas chambers.

The Kaddish - the Jewish prayer for the dead - will be said at a huge stone monument to the camp's victims at Birkenau.

At least 1.1 million people, including Jews, Poles and Roma, were killed in the camp's gas chambers or from starvation, disease and forced labor. The camp was liberated in January 1945 by Soviet troops.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/979840.html

Ok so it wasn't 4 million as you lied about for so many years
1.1 Million also includes Poles, Roma etc, then why don't they get free money like the Jews?
Disease & forced labour,  shit can't they just keep to the official story, 6 million in ovens

[BDF]

Sorry Ognir but the four million was just a made up number by the Soviets, it was never claimed by any of the serious researchers four million or that Auschwitz ever comprised more than 20% of the holocaust. Estimates were always  around 750,000-1,200,000. The fact of the matter is whether you think the number was inflated or not, is it really that important? Would me coming on the show with 'proof' that 1500 people were killed in the twin towers help us towards bringing the perpetrators to justice? A shit load of jews were murdered by nazis. This is a fact. My grandparents witnessed it. Is the Jewish media giving a skewed version of the envents? Absolutely.

Witold Pilecki of the Polish Home Army had himself caught, on purpose, in a round up of civilians bound for slave labour in Auschwitz. From inside he created resistance cells, including with members of the sonderkommando in Bireknau. He reported his findings of gassings to the goverment in exile in London (Jan Karski was the courier who brought the news of the camps to zionist leaders in the US who did nothing).

 After  he escaped and then went on to resist both the Nazis and communists in Poland. A few years after the war he was sentenced to death by a Jewish judge for collaboration with the nazis thanks to 'eyewitness' reports from certain survivors of a particular religious and political persuasion. Was he part of this Jewish conspiracy to make up the gassings already in 1942?

[Canard]

Sorry Ognir but the four million was just a made up number by the Soviets, it was never claimed by any of the serious researchers four million or that Auschwitz ever comprised more than 20% of the holocaust. Estimates were always  around 750,000-1,200,000. The fact of the matter is whether you think the number was inflated or not, is it really that important?

It's extremely important.

[sullivan]

The fact of the matter is whether you think the number was inflated or not, is it really that important?

It is important, because the six million number was used to con unwilling jewish people to participate in and support the colonisation of Palestine. It is important because the number and the claimed 'systematic' nature of the killing have been used (and continue to be used) as an excuse for a shakedown of unparalleled proportions. It is important because many groups of people suffered under Nazi rule, but only one group is allowed to continue to guilt-trip the world - on the basis of those numbers.

Would me coming on the show with 'proof' that 1500 people were killed in the twin towers help us towards bringing the perpetrators to justice? A shit load of jews were murdered by nazis. This is a fact. My grandparents witnessed it.

There is no doubt that Jews were murdered, along with Poles, Russians, Roma and other minority groups.  Transported half way across Europe to 'death camps' at a time when resources, particularly energy resources, were under severe rationing?  I don't think so.  A bullet in the head on the spot would have appealed far more to the German sense of efficiency.

[Anonymous]

Sorry Ognir but the four million was just a made up number by the Soviets, it was never claimed by any of the serious researchers four million or that Auschwitz ever comprised more than 20% of the holocaust. Estimates were always  around 750,000-1,200,000. The fact of the matter is whether you think the number was inflated or not, is it really that important? Would me coming on the show with 'proof' that 1500 people were killed in the twin towers help us towards bringing the perpetrators to justice? A shit load of jews were murdered by nazis. This is a fact. My grandparents witnessed it. Is the Jewish media giving a skewed version of the envents? Absolutely.

I think what is important is to get to the bottom of the product being sold.
Were the majority of Deaths cause by typhus?
Was the Red Cross Stationed at the German Camps?
Are the reported numbers by the Red Cross closer to the truth?
Did German beg the Red cross for food to feed prisoners after the Allies bombed the RR.
Who benefited from the free slave labor and didn't end up on the end of the Hangman's noose

I would like to know more about your grand parents witnessing a shyte load of jews murdered. Could you tell us the eyewitness testimony.

In law, testimony of a third party is hearsay.  Where the Jews murdered, communist, partisans, saboteurs or just regular civilians.

Witold Pilecki of the Polish Home Army had himself caught, on purpose, in a round up of civilians bound for slave labour in Auschwitz. From inside he created resistance cells, including with members of the sonderkommando in Bireknau. He reported his findings of gassings to the goverment in exile in London (Jan Karski was the courier who brought the news of the camps to zionist leaders in the US who did nothing).

Interesting to me
US closed it's immigration to Jews trying to escape the war
Jewish congress wouldn't supply goods to save 1 million jews.

After  he escaped and then went on to resist both the Nazis and communists in Poland. A few years after the war he was sentenced to death by a Jewish judge for collaboration with the nazis thanks to 'eyewitness' reports from certain survivors of a particular religious and political persuasion. Was he part of this Jewish conspiracy to make up the gassings already in 1942?

War Propaganda can take on a life of it's own. I have to default to Raul Hilberg, the Holocaust expert that stated on the record that no evidence of gassings could be found at Auschwitz, and Hitler's order to kill all jews was a verbal order never written down.

Interesting to note that Hilberg had never even visited Auschwitz before he wrote his Holocaust book.

[BDF]

It is important, because the six million number was used to con unwilling jewish people to participate in and support the colonisation of Palestine. It is important because the number and the claimed 'systematic' nature of the killing have been used (and continue to be used) as an excuse for a shakedown of unparalleled proportions. It is important because many groups of people suffered under Nazi rule, but only one group is allowed to continue to guilt-trip the world - on the basis of those numbers.

There is no doubt that Jews were murdered, along with Poles, Russians, Roma and other minority groups.  Transported half way across Europe to 'death camps' at a time when resources, particularly energy resources, were under severe rationing?  I don't think so.  A bullet in the head on the spot would have appealed far more to the German sense of efficiency.

Sullivan, I really dont see how winning the uphill battle of lowering the victim count by a million or two would change anything. 4.5 million dead Jews is still a convincing argument for the creation of Israel, if you think 6 is. Moreover, you'll have a pretty hard time convicing someone
youre not a Nazi so your arguments will be easily dismissed. Its like the whole no-planes and space beams.

On the other hand, if you inform people of the non-jewish victims, the judenrats,  jewish complicity in soviet mass-murders, etc, you are talking universally accepted facts that cant be refuted. Saying it was 6 mil or 4 or 8 is nothing mroe than saying I agree with this researcher and can be countered by 'but I agree with this guy'

If you want proof of systematic murder by the SS, no need to even look into what happened behind the closed doors of a concentration camp, look at the einsatzgruppen.

As for the efficiency of moving Jews to camps, I disagree. No more innefficient than putting animals on a truck or train to be slaughtered at their final destination- happens all the time.You take them, all their property (lets assume than even the poorest among them has enough stuff that would offset the cheap price of a 4th class ticket in a boxcar) then after you work them to death. The system was invented by the NKVD and was only improved upon with gas chamber later.

[BDF]

Johnsavage,

There is no way, at this point, for you to be able to prove that percent were killed with bullets, by being over worked, trying to escape, desease etc. What you can say, however, is that the majority would not be dead had it not been for the nazis.
as for the red cross, a) their records are imcomplete- they have nothing from there years 1944-1945, where the bulk of the murders happened. b) there were no records of those being sent straight to death so producing  partial records of those spared proves nothing. c) you could have records from the red cross saying 10million were murdered and wouldnt believe you considering the source, the Soviets.

Who benefited from the free slave labor and didn't end up on the end of the Hangman's noose.

Good point, alot more interesting than bickering about numbers....

I would like to know more about your grand parents witnessing a shyte load of jews murdered. Could you tell us the eyewitness testimony.
In law, testimony of a third party is hearsay.  Where the Jews murdered, communist, partisans, saboteurs or just regular civilians.

So do you want to hear it or not? Or will you dismiss it as hearsay?

War Propaganda can take on a life of it's own. I have to default to Raul Hilberg, the Holocaust expert that stated on the record that no evidence of gassings could be found at Auschwitz, and Hitler's order to kill all jews was a verbal order never written down.

Interesting to note that Hilberg had never even visited Auschwitz before he wrote his Holocaust book.

Please dont refer to Witold Pilecki and Jan Karski as war propaganda. If you have some proof that these guys who were Polish patriots and anticommunists made up stories to aid their political enemies, please post it.

[Ognir]

BDF you keep stating it's to late to tell the numbers of deaths by xx reason and here is where you are missing the point, how about an OPEN INVESTIGATION? Get the real scholars, including Jews, scientist etc to check it out.

Not fuckin likely in my life time. Where the hell are you getting this 4.5M figure from?

New York Jews, note, not Irish or Polish Catholics financed the Nazis in large parts. The Jews/Zionists were the only real winners from WORLD FUCKIN WAR 2 and please don't say America won, just look what 100 years of Jewish control of their political/financial system has done.

Germany has to pay up to the year 2090 if I remember rightly  for reparations so please don't ever downplay the issue of the holocaust and what it means to the truth. The holocaust 6m myth/hoax is what Jewry use day in day out against us. TV runs this lying shite everyday of the week.

In over 10 countries, to say that less than 6m dies in the "death" camps could find yourself in prison, WTF for begging to differ with the official story, fuck that, look at 911 and the official shite.

[blueocean]

Changing the number of 6 million to a more realistic number completely messes up the Kabbalistic Spell!!!

so yeah the numbers are important.

[Canard]

It is important, because the six million number was used to con unwilling jewish people to participate in and support the colonisation of Palestine. It is important because the number and the claimed 'systematic' nature of the killing have been used (and continue to be used) as an excuse for a shakedown of unparalleled proportions. It is important because many groups of people suffered under Nazi rule, but only one group is allowed to continue to guilt-trip the world - on the basis of those numbers.

There is no doubt that Jews were murdered, along with Poles, Russians, Roma and other minority groups.  Transported half way across Europe to 'death camps' at a time when resources, particularly energy resources, were under severe rationing?  I don't think so.  A bullet in the head on the spot would have appealed far more to the German sense of efficiency.

Sullivan, I really dont see how winning the uphill battle of lowering the victim count by a million or two would change anything. 4.5 million dead Jews is still a convincing argument for the creation of Israel, if you think 6 is. Moreover, you'll have a pretty hard time convicing someone
youre not a Nazi so your arguments will be easily dismissed. Its like the whole no-planes and space beams.

On the other hand, if you inform people of the non-jewish victims, the judenrats,  jewish complicity in soviet mass-murders, etc, you are talking universally accepted facts that cant be refuted. Saying it was 6 mil or 4 or 8 is nothing mroe than saying I agree with this researcher and can be countered by 'but I agree with this guy'

If you want proof of systematic murder by the SS, no need to even look into what happened behind the closed doors of a concentration camp, look at the einsatzgruppen.

As for the efficiency of moving Jews to camps, I disagree. No more innefficient than putting animals on a truck or train to be slaughtered at their final destination- happens all the time.You take them, all their property (lets assume than even the poorest among them has enough stuff that would offset the cheap price of a 4th class ticket in a boxcar) then after you work them to death. The system was invented by the NKVD and was only improved upon with gas chamber later.

Im getting very angry and am trying my best to have restraint with this 'poster'.  The leap isn't just of a few million.  It is a vast majority of the figure and the real point is whether the deaths were intentional and systematic or if they were due to sickness and lack of supplies.  An entire people he been smeared with this Agit Prop. I can't keep it civil if I continue responding any further to this guy.   Best of luck with him Og and you guys.

[BDF]

BDF you keep stating it's to late to tell the numbers of deaths by xx reason and here is where you are missing the point, how about an OPEN INVESTIGATION? Get the real scholars, including Jews, scientist etc to check it out.

Not fuckin likely in my life time. Where the hell are you getting this 4.5M figure from?.

What figure are you claiming? Zero? 3 million Poles were murdered by the Nazis,sent to camps or shot and pushed in ditches and were never seen again. Is this figure made up too? My grandparents witnessed their siblings shot for having Polish books or simply being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Whatever the facts are about who financed the Nazis, they would have been happy to tell you Jews were treated no better, even my grandfather who spent years in an NKVD prison, and as such was quite suspicious of Jews.  

New York Jews, note, not Irish or Polish Catholics financed the Nazis in large parts. The Jews/Zionists were the only real winners from WORLD FUCKIN WAR 2 and please don't say America won, just look what 100 years of Jewish control of their political/financial system has done.

Great, this can be proven. Trying to retroactively make a balance sheet of exactly how many were killed by whom during an orgy of death, 60 years later after the event that happened in a country controlled for the next 50 years by a totalitarian power with its own agenda cannot.

Germany has to pay up to the year 2090 if I remember rightly  for reparations so please don't ever downplay the issue of the holocaust and what it means to the truth. The holocaust 6m myth/hoax is what Jewry use day in day out against us. TV runs this lying shite everyday of the week..

I certainly agree that there is an Industry that is profiting from the holocaust. I am against any reperations given to organizations 'representing' dead people they never met, siphoning off the money to god knows where. All one has to do to point out is how inequitable this is when you factor in greater numbers of people equally mistreated, rather than dubious claims that it was great for Jews during ww2.

You know as well as I do that just the instances of Jews being shot outisde camps, or having property seized, or being driven from their homes, etc, not even talking about the camps, is enough for the Jewish media to make a very good case of persecution against the German government.

In over 10 countries, to say that less than 6m dies in the "death" camps could find yourself in prison, WTF for begging to differ with the official story, fuck that, look at 911 and the official shite.

So all they do is overtly prevent you from debating a losing argument that you then decide to debate. If there was a law against saying fewer than 3000 were killed on 911, would you spend alot of effort trying to prove that that must mean no one did? For all I know, It could have been 200 or 10,000. But Im pretty sure alot of people died. Similarly, I'm pretty sure alot of nazis murdered alot of jews.

[BDF]

Im getting very angry and am trying my best to have restraint with this 'poster'.  The leap isn't just of a few million.  It is a vast majority of the figure and the real point is whether the deaths were intentional and systematic or if they were due to sickness and lack of supplies.  An entire people he been smeared with this Agit Prop. I can't keep it civil if I continue responding any further to this guy.   Best of luck with him Og and you guys.

Are you denying the nazis intentionally and systematically murdered large groups of people, ie mass shootings on a massive scale?  Operation Tannenberg to give one example.   Or just that Jews were among them?

[Ognir]

35 million killed in the war, possible 600'000 Jews,   but that's not what MSM portrays

[BDF]

come on, please, Polish jews were over 10% of the population before the war.Right after there were 300,000 left. Where did they go? Did over 3 million Polish jews go to Israel? If so, why were Polish Jews a minority there?

[sullivan]

Sullivan, I really dont see how winning the uphill battle of lowering the victim count by a million or two would change anything. 4.5 million dead Jews is still a convincing argument for the creation of Israel, if you think 6 is.

Six million is a magical number, 'predicted' in Talmudic scriptures, and is very important in the overall scheme of things.

Moreover, you'll have a pretty hard time convicing someone youre not a Nazi so your arguments will be easily dismissed.

Bullshit. I personally don't give a damn what anyone things. If they are willing to make questioning the actualities of the so-called holocaust with ascribing to National Socialist political ideologies, then they are not worth my time or effort.  With your recent posting record, you'll find it difficult convincing any of the other regulars here that you are not some Zionist shill peddling the usual petty holocaust propaganda.

Its like the whole no-planes and space beams.

How does it feel to be clutching at straws?  Just like the no-planes or space beams nonsense, the claims made with regard to the holocaust are not backed up by any physical (forensic) evidence. None whatsoever. They are based exclusively on eyewitness testimony and hearsay. They just don't add up.  I'm not saying that a mass murder didn't take place, I'm just not willing to take the word of those who are profiting from it on the exact nature of that mass-murder.

On the other hand, if you inform people of the non-jewish victims, the judenrats,  jewish complicity in soviet mass-murders, etc, you are talking universally accepted facts that cant be refuted. Saying it was 6 mil or 4 or 8 is nothing mroe than saying I agree with this researcher and can be countered by 'but I agree with this guy'

As I said, the 6 million figure is quoted in Talmudic scripture, and was tried on for size in the early nineteen hundreds - only to be rejected as a hoax. Isn't it just a bit too much of a coincidence to have the figure mentioned in the Talmud, the figure used in a claim about mass Jewish deaths in the first decade of the last century, and again after the fall of the Nazi regime? I think so.

If you want proof of systematic murder by the SS, no need to even look into what happened behind the closed doors of a concentration camp, look at the einsatzgruppen.

Where is the forensic evidence to back up the claims made against the einsatzgruppen?  Yes, they were an organised paramilitary force, but their activities were no more 'systematic' than any other military force in a time of war.

As for the efficiency of moving Jews to camps, I disagree. No more innefficient than putting animals on a truck or train to be slaughtered at their final destination- happens all the time.

Think about that statement for a second. Animals are moved no more than is necessary when they are to be slaughtered.  If your intention is to kill, you can do it on the spot.

You take them, all their property (lets assume than even the poorest among them has enough stuff that would offset the cheap price of a 4th class ticket in a boxcar) then after you work them to death. The system was invented by the NKVD and was only improved upon with gas chamber later.

Again, the forensic evidence provided to date fails to back up the claims of the use of gas chambers, or any mass-murders on the scale claimed.  Either they wanted to work these people to death, or they wanted to finish them off immediately. Which is it?

[Ognir]

Listen I'm getting tired of your bullshit.

I'm giving you my opinion from research, as in MY OPINION yet you are quoting shite as if it's hard FACTS and could be taken to the bank because it has been proved.

Take a fuckin hike with your Zio shite

EDIT
Banned for being a Zio-Shill

It's the same fucker that came after me on ConCen, forget his user name
I know the cunt from the Piratebay
Fuck off,

ZERO TOLERANCE for ZIO-LOVERS

[yoshimura]

Og,

First off all, Im not a zio-shill.
Secondly, Im not from concen, Im breakdancefighter from the old board,and up until a few minutes ago I was a fan of the show.
Thirdly, you robbed this thread of a perfectly good and educated response to  Sullivan's post with your bannery.

As I pointed out in my email to you, Hillberg in 1950 estimated the deaths at 1.1 million. The plaque was soviet propaganda (and who controlled them?) So there has been no decrease. If you dont want to discuss the holocaust, fine with me, but banning me without warning wtf?

Leave this up here and I'll go away.

[Ognir]

I'll leave your post but as a SHILL fuck off now

[blueocean]

Og,

See this as a good exercise when having to debate the "official" people and media on this subject.

[Ognir]

 He made his point about the Russians and their propaganda but since they killed the Tsar and his family .....

[Canard]

Im getting very angry and am trying my best to have restraint with this 'poster'.  The leap isn't just of a few million.  It is a vast majority of the figure and the real point is whether the deaths were intentional and systematic or if they were due to sickness and lack of supplies.  An entire people he been smeared with this Agit Prop. I can't keep it civil if I continue responding any further to this guy.   Best of luck with him Og and you guys.

Are you denying the nazis intentionally and systematically murdered large groups of people, ie mass shootings on a massive scale?  Operation Tannenberg to give one example.   Or just that Jews were among them?

Let's not examine the shootings for right now.  Intentional Gassing and Burning? No.  There were no homicidal gas chambers, ever.  Typhus? Yes.  Allies cut off supplies via bombings, check.  6 million, impossible.  No means to obtain, transport and contain that many.  Is 6 million in their holy book as to how many need to die to bring about Israel?  WHY YES, IT IS IN FACT. What does the word holocaust mean?  It means BURNT SACRIFICE TO GOD.  Even Jordan Maxwell, scholar of ancient world religions, who has worked with Hollywood in making the Indiana Jones films, directed by Jewish director Steven Spielburg says as such.  If this is untrue, why would he be working in Hollywood with the director of Swindler's Myth?

This is their legend, from their religion. It has served to smear the Germans and beat up anyone who questions their politics.  They DO control the media and international finance and have FORCED their story on the world.  There were catholics, gypsies, gays, commies, etc....not just the chosen people.  First hand accounts of a biased people who want to use the alleged war atrocities to get a free country doesn't cut it for me.  I have a higher standard of evidence chum.  

Where did they all go?  Many went to Israel, they changed their names to Jewish sounding ones, hence I can't find this jewish guy or that one anymore as according to a census.  Real hard to figure out.  So your grandfather said someone was shot because someone had a book that was polish?  This is your great proof of something? Please. The figure doesn't even top a million by my estimates.  Watch some revisionist video pal, then come dispute them, Ill take you seriously only after you have.  You can start with the big daddy David Cole goes To Auschwitz.  It's on youtube and google video.  Ill be waiting.  For your scholarly response.

[mastermg]

Im just debating a Zio-Shill from Israel at ConCen right now. You guys take care of this guy and Ill take care of the one at ConCen

[blueocean]

as  side note:

the term PER ZIU/Siu just popped up in my head. (while reading this thread again and especially the word ZIO-shill))

Ziu or Siu stands for ZEUS, the lightning bolt using head of the false gods.

Zio/Zion and Zeus sounds similar to me. Lightning can symbolically be tied to all kinds of nasty shit.

[Anonymous]

BDF's

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1632682/posts

Witold Pilecki decided to break out of the camp, with the hope of personally convincing Home Army leaders that a rescue attempt was a valid option. When he was assigned to a night shift at a camp bakery outside the fence, he and two comrades overpowered a guard, cut the phone line and escaped on the night of April 26

[Canard]

Frederick Tobens research on the zyklon is substantial and why he was arrested.  His videos + Cole's (he has 2 1 with Ernst 1 without) Vids at Auschwitz  + 1/3 of the holocaust = what they don't want people to see.  All those together end the story.  I have some stuff by David Irving too, but his work as I recall isn't really essential and Eustace has illustrated he mentions his big source an unnamed German Major.  It is likely Irving is compromised.    If any of you haven't seen the vids mentioned above, please watch and give me your feedback and critique if you have any.  Fuck that shill and his Zioganda kudos to you guys for the ban.

[kolnidre]

Fuck that shill and his Zioganda kudos to you guys for the ban.

Zioganda. That's fuckin' awesome.

I downloaded all of 1/3 of the holyhoax and watched the first two parts on my computer. Prefer watching a regular TV so converted to DVD format and burned to DVD. So far it's been impeccably done, and subtle so as not to be arrogant or in your face.

[Canard]

cool I also like to watch on a regular tv, but hate dealing with dvd's.  I use xbmc it plays all media formats you can think of, I think even .flv's now!!! For a hundred bux you can get a used xbox and convert it to xbmc.
http://www.productwiki.com/microsoft-xb ... nutes.html

[joeblow]

cool I also like to watch on a regular tv, but hate dealing with dvd's.  I use xbmc it plays all media formats you can think of, I think even .flv's now!!! For a hundred bux you can get a used xbox and convert it to xbmc.
http://www.productwiki.com/microsoft-xb ... nutes.html

The best free player is Kazaa Codecs' Media Player:

http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/mirror.htm

Its simple, easy to use, and plays every filetype in the know universe.

[Ognir]

Actually

I had a working TIVO, That's the best!

Records history

People need to upload their shit
It will all help solve the talmudic-jewish puzzle

[Canard]

cool I also like to watch on a regular tv, but hate dealing with dvd's.  I use xbmc it plays all media formats you can think of, I think even .flv's now!!! For a hundred bux you can get a used xbox and convert it to xbmc.
http://www.productwiki.com/microsoft-xb ... nutes.html

The best free player is Kazaa Codecs' Media Player:

http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/mirror.htm

Its simple, easy to use, and plays every filetype in the know universe.

Thanks Joeblowman but that's an application what im talking about is stand alone device that you put linux on and play files from a harddrive, no skipping or dirty dvd's.  It hooks up to the tv and uses a remote control, I couldn't live without mine, talk about convenience for watching lots of difference videos and comparing info, it's also fantastic for showing friends complicated ideas and not having to hunch over by the pc.  I encourage you guys to check out that guide I posted the link too.  It really is like a member of the family.  

Og XBMC is supposed to be able to do tivo/dvr functions but I haven't used that function yet. Gawd bless demonoid.

Back to the videos I listed above, has anyone got any feedback?  Kol have you finished 1/3rd yet?