You won't see this on US news

[high_treason]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l2W8vTD ... re=related

Russiatoday, I'm surprized this channel talks about zionist terrorists!

[satya]

We need honest news like this in America.

[LatinAmericanview]

This is an amazing bit of propaganda. Russia Today is clearly aimed at a certain American demographic.  Why does RT cite a blogger as the source for this information.  Irgun history is not unknown history.  What do you think is the impression that this intel-news service is trying to create? It remains me of the type of propaganda aimed at Cubans during the Cold War. Does anybody have any thoughts?

[satya]

This is an amazing bit of propaganda. Russia Today is clearly aimed at a certain American demographic.  Why does RT cite a blogger as the source for this information.  Irgun history is not unknown history.  What do you think is the impression that this intel-news service is trying to create? It remains me of the type of propaganda aimed at Cubans during the Cold War. Does anybody have any thoughts?

I disagree.  What source would you use exactly to quote that Irgun was a terrorist organization?  Daily Kos is known as a reputable source among the mainstream (with a liberal bias).  If it is propaganda, it still let's the cat out of the bag, so I'll take it.

[LatinAmericanview]

I live in a country where we multiple sources of propaganda. We get the Hugo Chavez new communist spin and we get the American perspective. Over time one can see them as the left and right paradigm. Russia Today has enough resources to investigate their research. So this begs the question why not just come out and say what they said accept ownership?  As far as exposure is concerned- yes this could get out of hand but only if it were picked up by a major news source. We all know the information does not have to be even true so long as it gets a platform.  I hope that makes sense.  And for the record- I think this is a big deal!

[satya]

I live in a country where we multiple sources of propaganda. We get the Hugo Chavez new communist spin and we get the American perspective. Over time one can see them as the left and right paradigm. Russia Today has enough resources to investigate their research. So this begs the question why not just come out and say what they said accept ownership?  As far as exposure is concerned- yes this could get out of hand but only if it were picked up by a major news source. We all know the information does not have to be even true so long as it gets a platform.  I hope that makes sense.  And for the record- I think this is a big deal!

That does make sense and it is a good point, RT could just come out and say Irgun is a terrorist organization and be done with it.  I am not quite sold it is propaganda, but it well possibly could be.  Either way, it is still spreading the correct message and can work to our advantage.

[high_treason]

Even if it is propoganda, every country does its own propoganda to promote its own interests. There is even Russiya alYoum which is Russia Today but in Arabic, where in their mission statement they do say its to promote Russian perspective to the 350 million Arabs in the Middle East. At least there is another non-Arab English News channel talking about zionist terrorists.

I'm very disappointed with Al Jazeera English since they don't mention any zionist terrorist they became a very watered down version of Al Jazeera and even for us Arabs we have left/right paradigm. With Al Jazeera (Qatar, Radio London Arabic and ex BBC Arabic and Al Arabiya (Fox News like channel run by Saudis, Lebanese Maronites and Druze). With Al Jazeera giving a perspective close to what Arabs feel (conservative pro Arab) and Al Arabiya promoting what the Saudi government wants people to feel (liberal pro West)...even in Al Arabiya they made fun of Islam if you can believe it and throw propoganda at Hizb Allah saying they attacked poor little israshit  and its still on air! Just so people would know Saudi government is not an Islamic government like Richard Clark in his book said they are JEWS!
http://www.daily.pk/world/middle-east/8 ... ewish.html

[LatinAmericanview]

That is my point exactly High Treason! So before I start calling for Jews to hang from the highest tree I want to make sure it is my idea an not part of some mind control program. In other words, if we do not do our due diligence then we run the risk of becoming useful idiots.  I have enough common sense to ask the question "who is creating and pushing this agenda" I need not remind my fellow truth seekers the famous words of Theodore Herzl who stated that those that take in the Jews in will profit and those that expel the Jews will also profit! I am also sick and tried of bullshit name calling (i.e. Israelshit, evil banker,Evil Jews and alike). Where are the intellectuals! This a game of chess! Can no one see several moves ahead? Please let us raise the standard of debate! TIU is suppose to be the flagship of research.

[high_treason]

Well if you look at what Rahm Emmanuel's father said that to paraphrase his son will make Obama more proisrael and he is not in the whitehouse to clean floors like an Arab....so just this comment shows his father's hatred of Arabs or like Gene Simmons infamous comment ""thats what goy are for" Also I remember DBS mentioning that about Rahm way back when he was talking about Rahm's brother was Michael Moore's agent and that there family had ties to the Mossad or something to that effect so Rahm's info is not news, what is news that it is said on a mainstream non-Arab channel....RT might be saying that for several reasons and here are a couple of what I think they might be...

a. RussiaToday is proRussian and has strong ties to the Russian government, so they know that they won't reach the regular fox/cnn crowd since Al Jazeera English already tried that and failed so they are trying to approach people like us and people who are in to alternative news for whatever reason maybe to win our trust or just the job of News reporting or maybe even to take viewership from Al Jazeera. NYtimes already calls it state run

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/arts/ ... ref=slogin

b. It could also be a way to raise media attention sort of a PR campaign to the channel by bringing up a controversial issue where the Jewish media would jump on the wagon and start saying its an anti-semitic channel and Russia is evil and business as usual and then you see more and more people watching the channel to find out whats going on.

We cannot know these things but what I do know is that it is headed by a Russian woman named Margarita Simonyan who is not a Jew but get this an Armenian

http://unzipped.blogspot.com/search/lab ... 20Simonyan

Also another thing to note is that Russia seems to be walking both sides of the Fence never giving a clear statement of where they stand. So you'll see them charging and imprisoning the Jewish Mafia Oligarchy and yet allow a Rothchild bank to buy whats left. Then support Iran with the nuclear program and then places a Jewish president in office...it might be and this is just a speculation that Putin is either a very shrewd politian working for the Jews or he is actually looking out for pure Russian interests. I'm not defending the channel I just started seeing clips from it recently but they do seem to have taken an issue least discussed by Western Media.

[LatinAmericanview]

Now we are getting somewhere! I found your research insightful.  Thank you for sharing. As a rule all medias outlets are controlled. We may have no way of knowing who is pulling the strings behind the scenes. However, Rahm's family exposure is very telling. Lets us begin with Rahm's Dad. Why would Daddo say such blatantly racist remarks? Moreover; Why would the controlled media give  "legs" to this story ? It should be obvious that Rahm's family is politically savvy. So this angle does not add up. I read something recently which was rather enlightening. Genghis Khan's family was rather famous for it's political power hierarchy. Apparently among the Khan's it was customary that the oldest Son control the seat of power. However occasionally family power struggles developed.  In one such power struggle there were there opposing sides. On each side the khan's laid claim to The Catholics, The Muslims, and The Jews. In many respects the Russia/American dichotomy is similar to that paradigm. I mean no disrespect to all believers but all monotheistic faiths are religions of imperialism. I am also sure that you are aware that the ultimate goal of communism is to merge  America and Russia as one. One day in the future we will have a global police force lead by Russians and Americans with the Jewish elite directing the whole thing from the United Nations. The American Jewish administrative class will have to concede power in order for this process to further itself. I need not remind how the Armenian Administrative class was ousted from power only to give way to the Domenh crypto-Jews of Turkey.

[jai_mann]

I fully agree that every major media station is controlled. It doesn't matter what "country" the media is in. Look at the people who were given air time to comment on this news segment. I think there is the distinct possibility that there is jockeying for position as the legislative and executive positions are filled with new people. It could be useful to set up some sort of flowchart like http://www.theyrule.net/ in order to create an excellent reference tool for plotting the connections between rulers...

Andrew Kuchins
"Director, Center for Strategic and International Studies"
Clifford Gaddy
"Foreign Policy Studies, Brookings Institution"
Spencer Boyer
"Center for American Progress"

The news ticker is interesting as well. People do not have to pay active attention to visual stimuli to process the stimuli. Within just this ~5 minute news clip certain banners were repeated up to at least 3 times. You have both close temporal repetition and the exact same stimulus. That's effective conditioning. The average person isn't capable of critically thinking about the auditory messages and the visual messages they are receiving separately let alone simultaneously. Some messages are fluff and I would propose that others are intended as mental attitude conditioning.

@ 4:23 "Investigators say bus explosion which killed at least 10 people in North Ossetia caused by female suicide bomber."

Vehicular bombings are the MO of intel agencies especially the Mossad.

Following that "Russia to place missiles in Kaliningrad to counter US missle defense plans." Then "Western countries criticize Russia's missile deployment."

For the majority of people who believe in the legal fiction of nation-states this reinforces an us vs them mental attitude.
The common masses in Russia or the US (or elsewhere) will tend to discriminate between abstract nation-states (Russia vs. US), which encompasses the entire regional populations, rather than the physical, real Russian rulers and US rulers who are directly responsible for the programs. The common masses of any given region will identify with the abstract nation-state for the region in which they live. This makes it easier to get the common masses to kill each other when they actually have more in common than they do with the rulers of the region.

 I would also like to point out that the format for RT is extremely similar to any of the Western media stations. They have bright, colorful and catchy visual stimuli on the screen at any given moment. They utilize the same type of brief sound bites that are used in western media. They are using the same type of scroll bar with specific catch phrases. These are just some passing thoughts on the clip.

[Mac Seafraidh]

Secret Files Show Stalin Was Ready to Invade Germany in 1939

http://podblanc.com/secret-files-show-s ... rmany-1939