Barack Obama links Israel peace plan to 1967 borders deal

[satya]

From The Sunday Times
November 16, 2008

Barack Obama links Israel peace plan to 1967 borders deal

Uzi Mahnaimi in Tel Aviv and Sarah Baxter

Barack Obama is to pursue an ambitious peace plan in the Middle East involving the recognition of Israel by the Arab world in exchange for its withdrawal to pre-1967 borders, according to sources close to America's president-elect.

Obama intends to throw his support behind a 2002 Saudi peace initiative endorsed by the Arab League and backed by Tzipi Livni, the Israeli foreign minister and leader of the ruling Kadima party.

The proposal gives Israel an effective veto on the return of Arab refugees expelled in 1948 while requiring it to restore the Golan Heights to Syria and allow the Palestinians to establish a state capital in east Jerusalem.

On a visit to the Middle East last July, the president-elect said privately it would be "crazy" for Israel to refuse a deal that could "give them peace with the Muslim world", according to a senior Obama adviser.

The Arab peace plan received a boost last week when President Shimon Peres, a Nobel peace laureate and leading Israeli dove, commended the initiative at a Saudi-sponsored United Nations conference in New York.

Peres was loudly applauded for telling King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, who was behind the original initiative: "I wish that your voice will become the prevailing voice of the whole region, of all people."

A bipartisan group of senior foreign policy advisers urged Obama to give the Arab plan top priority immediately after his election victory. They included Lee Hamilton, the former co-chairman of the Iraq Study Group, and Zbigniew Brzezinski, a Democrat former national security adviser. Brzezinski will give an address tomorrow at Chatham House, the international relations think tank, in London.

Brent Scowcroft, a Republican former national security adviser, joined in the appeal. He said last week that the Middle East was the most troublesome area in the world and that an early start to the Palestinian peace process was "a way to psychologically change the mood of the region".

Advisers believe the diplomatic climate favours a deal as Arab League countries are under pressure from radical Islamic movements and a potentially nuclear Iran. Polls show that Palestinians and Israelis are in a mood to compromise.

The advisers have told Obama he should lose no time in pursuing the policy in the first six to 12 months in office while he enjoys maximum goodwill.

Obama is also looking to break a diplomatic deadlock over Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons technology. A possible way forward, suggested last spring by Dennis Ross, a senior Obama adviser and former Middle East envoy, would be to persuade Russia to join in tough economic sanctions against Iran by offering to modify the US plan for a "missile shield" in eastern Europe.

President Dmitry Medvedev signalled that Russia could cancel a tit-for-tat deployment of missiles close to the Polish border if America gave up its proposed missile defences in Poland and the Czech Republic.

Ross argued in a paper on How to Talk to Iran that "if the Iranian threat goes away, so does the principal need to deploy these [antimissile] forces. [Vladimir] Putin [the Russian prime minister] has made this such a symbolic issue that this trade-off could be portrayed as a great victory for him".

Ross and Daniel Kurtzer, a former American ambassador to Israel, accompanied Obama on a visit to Israel last July. They also travelled to Ramallah, where Obama questioned Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian leader, about the prospects for the Arab plan.

According to a Washington source Obama told Abbas: "The Israelis would be crazy not to accept this initiative. It would give them peace with the Muslim world from Indonesia to Morocco."

Kurtzer submitted a paper to Obama on the question before this month's presidential elections. He argued that trying to reach bilateral peace agreements between Israel and individual countries in the Middle East, was a recipe for failure as the record of Bill Clinton and George W Bush showed. In contrast, the broader Arab plan "had a lot of appeal". A leading Democratic expert on the Middle East said: "There's not a lot of meat on the bones yet, but it offers recognition of Israel across the Arab world."

Livni, the leader of Kadima, which favours the plan, is the front-runner in Israeli elections due in February. Her rival, Benjamin Netanyahu, the leader of Likud, is adamantly against withdrawing to borders that predate the Six Day war in 1967.

Ehud Olmert, the prime minister, last week expressed his support for Israel's withdrawal from the West Bank Golan and east Jerusalem.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 162537.ece

[satya]

IF this is not a ruse, it would be amazing.  It is the most the Palestinians could hope for.  I'm very surprised by this story, does anyone have any insight on this?

[Ralph Furely]

either this is a joke or this is a trick.  it would never happen.  i think we all know israel well enough now to be confident that they would never agree to this in a million years.  its just not possible, given their attitudes, the way they think about this situation, and the pure evil coming from just about all israeli leaders.  
that is their land, no way are they giving even an inch.  for that country to act like it has over this issue in the past, and then obama comes around and thinks hes all the sudden gonna make this work? i dont buy it.  they more than likely put him up to this to fool everyone even more so into believing he is going to make 'change' and do good things.  bullshit.
just a little piece to get more ppl supporting/believing him.

lead the cattle to the slaughter is what he is here to do.

[high_treason]

One of two things will happen....

A. If this is true and Obama believes it, then while the negotiations are going on he will get assasinated or even before the negotiations start and will be blamed on "Radical Muslims" or "White Supremicists"

B. This is all just an act to get the Arabs in line right before he starts bombing the shit out of Iran with the Arabs putting a tight leach on their citizens.

thats just my opinion

[joeblow]

I 100% agree with HT, like DBS says "That's spot-on!". And on a side note, I really enjoy the friendliness and objectivity now found between Arabs and Iranians. I'm 34 and most of those years I have been a stupid dumbass participant in the idiotic feud.

[satya]

According to the article, this will only happen if Tzipi Livni is elected PM in Israel.  Maybe they already know Netenyahu is going to win the election and Obama ends up looking like the good guy for proposing it.  Or less possibly, which I would hope is true but goes against all we have learned about Obama thus far, is that he is going to flip the script on his Zionist controllers.  Yet, what is even more strange now that I think of it is that Tzipi Livni would agree to this.

[razorback2000]

I doubt it will ever happen that way.
Look at the occupied territories, want is left is a swiss cheese (Emmental,  that is not swiss anyway).
Do you think they will close down all those colonies, the recent one they build in east Jerusalem.

It's pure fiction. Don't forget Georges Bush said by the end of 2008, we'll have a peace agreement between IsraHell and Palestine. We can see were it stands now  :cry:

[Rockclimber]

This is way to good to be true and as the old saying goes, "if it sounds to good to be true, it usually is" Don't be surprised if this is an attempt for Obama and his Jewish handlers to say "even THE ONE tried to help the Chosen Ones and looked what happened" say after a small false flag attack by Mossad in Israel or the states and blamed on Muslims once again mind you. I don't trust this one iota.