Italy stages assassination-deterring motorcade for Zelensky

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Mr. Zelensky in Rome on Saturday with Italy's prime minister, Giorgia Meloni.
Despite softening support among the public and her cabinet for assisting
Ukraine in the war, she has remained a staunch backer.Credit...Alessandra Tarantino/Associated Press

Zelensky Meets Pope and Meloni in Italy to Bolster Ukraine's Support
By Jason Horowitz
Reporting from Rome
May 13, 2023
Updated 3:38 p.m. ET
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/13/world/europe/zelensky-pope-francis-ukraine-war.html
https://archive.is/tMt3i

Ukraine war: Pope tells Zelensky he is 'praying for peace'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65581170

Zelensky, in private, plots bold attacks inside Russia, leak shows
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/zelensky-in-private-plots-bold-attacks-inside-russia-leak-shows/ar-AA1b9hpp

Fri at 12:15 PM
Volodymyr Zelenskyy banned from delivering video message at Eurovision Song Contest
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/video/news/volodymyr-zelenskyy-banned-from-delivering-video-message-at-eurovision-song-contest/vi-AA1b5yIe

This smells like Zelensky and media are in deep deep trouble

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

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Zelensky Revealed: What the Washington Post deleted [Video]
The personal character of Mr. Zelensky's hatred of Russia and perhaps how
cornered he is, appears evident.

by Seraphim Hanisch
May 15, 2023
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https://theduran.com/zelensky-revealed-what-the-washington-post-deleted-video/

   First of all, what follows is a reprint of a piece that appeared on 15
   May, 2023 on RT.com
(Russia Today). Russia Today has largely been cut
   off from at least "convenient" access in the West, by means of real
   internet blocks in some cases and the extremely successful propaganda
   war carried out by the United States and the Europeans.
   
   On 14 May, RT reported that the Washington Post "scrubbed" an interview
   held with Volodymyr Zelensky, in which the text in the reprint below
   was deleted from the Post's interview transcript. A check at the time
   of writing this piece shows that the deleted section is now no longer
   deleted, and that the interview appears to be full. However, the text
   is very interesting and it is quite possible that it was scrubbed out
   of doubt as to whether or not reporting this would cast doubt on the
   "golden image" portrayed in the West of Mr. Zelensky as everybody's
   hero and the Scourge of Russia.
   
   Further, that the interview appears to have been restored suggests that
   there is a bit of positioning, perhaps a debate, among the American
   media establishment about what to do with their rather problematic
   "Golden Boy" – and that the official posture of the American ruling
   elite may be moving into "time to get rid of him" mode.
   
   Historically, most Western media portrayals of Volodymyr Zelensky are
   usually shamelessly positive and loving, even more than with Imposter
   Biden, but of late something appears to be shifting in the US
   reporting. Alex Christoforou of The Duran pointed out recently that the
   United States appears to be taking a bit of distance, relieved that the
   United Kingdom sent Ukraine hundreds of Storm Shadow
   intermediate-to-long range cruise missiles – so that the US did not
   have to do so, itself.
   
   These long range missiles are already being used by Ukraine along with
   American long range decoy drones to hit targets deep inside the new
   Russian territories, most notably in the city of Lugansk. The war's
   escalation in this direction was immediately followed up by a couple
   spectacular Russian strikes against ammunition dumps in western
   Ukraine, which, oddly, were not detected by US Patriot emplacements in
   Ukraine or in Poland.
   
   This above is to give a little background for the material presented
   now: The Washington Post interviewed Mr. Zelensky, but while early
   posts of that interview included what you are about to read, Sunday
   views of this piece reportedly showed without this material. Let's go
   to it now, and after this excerpt I will offer a bit of analysis.
   
   
  This is a full excerpt with no body edits made by me, only the removal
   of interjected links such as many news websites include nowadays.

   
   

   
   Here are the Zelensky 'treason' quotes the Washington Post deleted

   The newspaper scrubbed an interview in which the Ukrainian leader
   lashed out when confronted with leaked documents

   
   
   
   Vladimir Zelensky arrives for a joint press conference with German
   Chancellor Olaf Scholz in Berlin, Germany, May 14, 2023 ©  AFP / Tobias
   Schwarz
   The Washington Post has deleted a large tract of an interview with
   Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky in which he lashed out at alleged
   "traitors" in his ranks. RT is publishing the entire section that the
   US newspaper would rather keep hidden.
   
   The following section appeared in an interview with the Ukrainian
   president published on Saturday. By Sunday it had been removed with no
   explanation. After discussing a trove of recently leaked Pentagon
   documents, which revealed – among other things – that the US monitors
   Zelensky's communications, the newspaper presented him with a fresh
   allegation that has not yet been reported in the US media.
   
   Note that Evgeny Prigozhin is the founder and head of the Wagner Group,
   a Russian private military company currently fighting in the Donetsk
   People's Republic.
   
   WaPo: The documents indicate that GUR, your intelligence directorate,
   has back-channel contact with Evgeny Prigozhin that you were aware of,
   including meeting with Evgeny Prigozhin and GUR officers. Is that true?

   
   
   
   Zelensky: This is a matter of [military] intelligence. Do you want me to be
   convicted of state treason? And so, it's very interesting, if someone
   is saying that you have documents, or if someone from our government is
   speaking about the activities of our intelligence, I would also like to
   ask you a question: With which sources from Ukraine do you have
   contact? Who is talking about the activities of our intelligence?
   Because this is the most severe felony in our country. Which Ukrainians
   are you talking to?
   
   WaPo: I talked to officials in government, but these documents are not
   from Ukraine, they are from......

   
   Zelensky: It doesn't matter where the documents are from. The question
   is with which Ukrainian official did you talk? Because if they say
   something about our intelligence, that's treason. If they say something
   about a specific offensive plan of one general or another, this is also
   treason. That's why I asked you, which Ukrainians are you talking to?
   
   WaPo: About these specific documents? You are the first person I am
   talking to about them
.
   
   Zelensky: Okay.
   
   WaPo: And I can read you what information exactly there is about
   Prigozhin and the GUR. On February 13, Kirill Budanov, chief of
   Ukraine's Main Directorate of Intelligence, informed you about a
   Russian plan to destabilize Moldova with two former Wagner associates.
   Budanov informed you that he viewed the Russian scheme as a way to
   incriminate Prigozhin because "we have dealings" with him. You
   instructed Budanov to inform Moldovan President Maia Sandu, and Budanov
   told you that the GUR had informed Prigozhin that he would be labeled a
   traitor who has been working with Ukraine. The document also says that
   Budanov expected the Russians to use details of Prigozhin's secret
   talks with the GUR and meetings with GUR officers in Africa......

   
   
   
   Zelensky: Listen, to be honest, well, you just read something, you say
   something. I just don't understand where you get it, whom you talk to
   and so on. You talk about how I met with Budanov. This suggests that
   you – how do you put it? It looks like you have people who have some
   records or you have some evidence or you have something, because that's
   what it looks like. You are again doing, I apologize, what you were
   doing before. You are releasing some sort of information that does not
   help our state to attack and does not help us to defend our state. So,
   I don't quite understand what you are talking about. I don't quite
   understand your goal. Is your goal to help Russia? I mean, that means
   we have different goals. If I'm not sitting at the same table with
   them, I don't quite understand what we're talking about. Each of these
   inquiries simply demotivates Ukraine, demotivates certain partners to
   help Ukraine. Well, one way or another, I just don't understand your
   goal.
   
   WaPo: Our goal is not to help Russia.
   
   Zelensky: Well, it looks different.
   
   WaPo: No one gave us this information personally. These were in the
   leaked documents, which do indicate, as I said earlier, that the United
   States is listening in on you.

   
   Zelensky: And if you have classified documents, it means someone gave
   them to you. If you have access to documents, someone gave them to you.
   Today, in the world of modern technology, when you have access, it's
   not necessarily someone gave it to you. You have access. You are now
   quoting some documents as originals, without understanding the
   responsibility for this, you are just talking about some information.
   For me, this is incomprehensible information, but in this, in our
   dialogue, I want to understand why you are doing this. I told you at
   the beginning of our conversation that I believe that the TV show that
   was launched, launched in the information field, helps – I don't know
   who, but it helps Russia, it definitely doesn't help Ukraine. You are
   engaged in continuing this story. And so, I ask you if it's your choice
   and if you think that the Russian Federation needs to be helped in a
   variety of spheres – that they were expecting a Ukrainian
   counteroffensive in whichever direction, so that they know when we are
   coming, so that they know our powerful forces and what we are planning,
   what our intelligence is doing? Well, if that's the case, then...
   
   WaPo: I would say that these documents were leaked, not by us, and they
   were on the internet in a chatroom for weeks.

   
   
   
   Zelensky: They were not on the internet, they were a part of something. We,
   the normal society, couldn't access all of this. We couldn't. And then,
   I think, information began to come out that we would partially publish
   everything else. I think it's yours – or your editorial board, or
   whoever. I don't want to offend anyone, I don't know. That's why you
   are releasing this information one by one today. You publish
   information about a counteroffensive in Ukraine, about this or that. I
   told you that I believe that this is, how to put it? – someone heard
   something somewhere, someone published something somewhere, but the
   information is compiled, and it is different, and it definitely does
   not work in Ukraine's favor. That's all. And now you want to take the
   bull by the horns. You need to substantiate or not substantiate this
   information, and then there will be a certain weight to your
   information, because the president of Ukraine reacts to it. Do you
   understand? And this is what you do. You are right now playing with, I
   think, things that aren't good for our people. This is not the first
   time I've told you this. I think it's wrong, but nevertheless, you say,
   "Just a little bit more, it's not over yet." Well, yes, it is. There
   are still a few people left in Ukraine. I am not interested in seeing
   this number of people decrease. That's why we are fighting. [In
   English] I am so sorry, I was not so quick, I was too long about these
   documents. I don't know about this...
   
   WaPo: We came to talk to you about this. It is clearly sensitive for
   you and your country.

   
   Zelensky: [In English] It is not sensitive. If I answer you that it's
   sensitive, it means that these are real documents. Please, stop playing
   games with me. I am the president of a war country, a country in war. I
   said about my reaction to these documents, I said that it's not good
   for our people. You know, I am not playing Counter-Strike. We are
   preparing a counteroffensive. You know, these are different things –
   that's why I said all of the details from me you will hear. And of
   course, we are thankful for your work, your help when you support
   Ukraine in this war. You did a big job. And now I am saying about these
   documents...I don't recognize it as documents. I didn't see that. That is
   the first thing. I don't know how you've got it and my question was to
   you: "Why are you continue doing that?" Okay. You are free. I mean, you
   will do what you want, but I don't want to speak about it with details.
   Because I don't know about what I am speaking. It's something with some
   information. And I said that I didn't have any contact with the White
   House about these documents. Or not documents. About these papers. Or
   not papers. About this platform. Or a fake platform...I didn't have
   before, now, and, I don't know, maybe in the future. I just say the
   same message very publicly and very open. I said it to you, with some
   journalist and to a lot of leaders. When they asked me about this, I
   said it's not good for us. What can I say? It's not good. I don't know
   if it was fake or what a percent – I don't know what it is. And I don't
   know who needs it and what is the game. I don't know what for. That's
   it. For me, it's not serious. It sounds like somebody said, somebody
   heard something......



   
   The analysis I offer is not geopolitical except in the sense that one's
   personal psychology as a leader often has an effect on geopolitical
   matters.
   
   In other words, crazy leaders cause problems.
   
   There are several points in this interview where Mr. Zelensky seems to
   turn on the interviewer in a manner that "questions the interviewer's
   own loyalty to Ukraine." This is an astounding characteristic, and it
   shows a few things:
   
     * President Zelensky is highly emotional and caught up in his own
       narrative
     * The support for Ukraine from the West is elevated to a "cultish"
       phenomenon, with Volodymyr Zelensky its chief evangelist, leader,
       despot... rather in the style of a crazed religious leader like Jim Jones.
     * The Washington Post interviewer is performing a Random Act of
       Journalism, which is unusual because that paper has been so solidly in
       the Ukraine camp
     * The revelation, even for a short period of time, that there is
       something profoundly shaky in Mr. Zelensky's psyche says something
       about what the American media is trying to prepare the public for –
       perhaps the collapse of Ukraine and an immediate "turnabout" in public
       opinion for its leader.
   
   One can view this in several ways, often simultaneously, and there are
   two or three points here about Mr. Zelensky that can be made:
   
   First, this poor man is in a bind. A really, really bad bind. He has
   led his country into a futile proxy war and has the deaths hundreds of
   thousands of his countrymen on his hands. He will be blamed for this,
   and he knows it. Even more, his actions have depopulated the country
   and while it is not widely reported, some Ukrainian refugees have been
   portrayed as acting very "entitled" and this has not gone over well
   with the countries and people that have accepted their influx.
   
   Second: He cannot get out of the bind, whether by drug use, and / or
   because he at least partly believes his own rhetoric. For Zelensky,
   even the thought of Russia seems to push him into a frenzy which in
   this interview is exposed, to the point where he begins questioning the
   reporters LOYALTY to Ukraine and accusing the reporter or the
   Washington Post of supporting Russia. This is highly paranoid and
   unstable.
   
   For comparison this link leads to the pre-redacted Washington Post
   piece.

   
   This link leads to the piece as it stands now. At the time of this
   writing, again, these appear to be identical. RT reports that this
   excerpt was deleted.
   
   Whether deleted or not, it shows that the fawning adoration of the
   Ukrainian PR genius (not much of a leader though, in my opinion – not
   that that means anything!) is passing. There are random acts of
   journalism taking place. While it seems (oddly) wised to take a rather
   cynical view of this, given the American ruling elite's penchant for
   serving itself (maybe we ought to rephrase the term "Indian giver" as
   "American giver"), it seems prudent to say that at best, an honest
   journalist's efforts were used to help the People In Charge position
   themselves for the next step in their deadly games.
   
   President Volodymir Zelensky is their latest victim – a man highly
   compromised by his personal passions, a talented actor and a true human
   tragedy. On a personal note, I truly feel sorry for this man. I do not
   know how he can possibly survive his actions and what is being done to
   him.
   
   

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``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

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Elensky visits Pope


Elensky visits Pope & Meloni. WaPo, invade Russia & blow up Hungary pipeline. Turkey elections. U/1
89,099 views • May 14, 2023  • 10K likes
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Sunak hugs Elensky


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86,465 views • May 15, 2023 • 11K likes
Alex Christoforou • 169K subscribers
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``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

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Counter Offensive


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"Trudeau in Kiev. Leopards destroyed. Putin, more than 3 to 1. Elensky
   curse hits Boris again. U/1
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100,632 views • Jun 8, 2023 • 12K likes
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``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778