Putin and the jews

Started by yankeedoodle, December 17, 2024, 02:52:34 PM

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Found on the Gamers Rise Up blog
https://gameruprising.to/thread-59210-post-1008339.html#pid1008339

Discussions about Putin and the Jews tend to veer off in stupid directions when people take their understanding of how Jewish power interacts with the political leadership of the US and assume that it works the same way everywhere else. But different countries have different circumstances.

America's population is thoroughly indoctrinated in Jewish orthodoxies. One of these is that the Jews are fundamentally an innocent people. They're just ordinary people who want to live normal lives and be left in peace. They are all individuals with their own beliefs. They aren't a group that has an agenda. They only come together to protect each other when bad people want to hurt them. And they're a brotherly people to us, our dear little brother who gets picked on a lot and needs someone big and strong to stand up for them.

Every one of those statements is the complete opposite of reality, but this is what the majority of Americans genuinely believe. If you're ever frustrated with people who just won't change their minds no matter how many facts you throw at them, keep in mind that this is how they're seeing the issue.

And if you're wondering how there are people who recognize all the evils that Israel is doing but still defend the Jews in their own country, it's because they're compartmentalizing the two. Jews are a good people, Israel is just a bad government. This was the more typical view in much of Europe, before their political culture became more and more Americanized over the last decade or two.

American politicians defer so easily to the Jews and to Israel because they too genuinely hold these beliefs about them, just as much as the ignorant masses do. The Jews pay them off, just to be sure, but they don't even have to pay these people that much.

Now, let's look at Russia. Those ideas about the Jews that are almost universal here, are almost nonexistent there. Russians don't believe in the special innocence of Jews. Russians don't believe that Jews are their precious little brothers who need to be protected (the Serbs and the other small Slavic nations fill that place in their hearts instead).

Americans who see through the lies of the Jews and turn against them feel a special kind of revulsion towards them. Because America has never done anything to hurt the Jews in any meaningful way. America has showered the Jews with kindness and generosity, and yet they hate us and want to destroy us just the same. How could they be like that?

Russians have suffered far worse under Jewish rule than the Americans have, under the pre-Stalin Bokshevik regime and the post-communist Yeltsin government. And yet, the Russians tend to be less bothered by it. Russian antisemitism is usually more casual and relaxed than its western counterpart. Why is that? Are they dense? Do they just not know their own history?

No, the main reason is that Russians just don't have this idea that the Jews are fundamentally innocent, or that they themselves are. Russia has never been completely hostile to the Jews, but it's never been very kind to them either. No one expects the Jews will be kind to them in return. When Russians are in charge, life will be bad for the Jews. When Jews are in charge, life will be bad for Russians. That doesn't strike them as a grand betrayal and fill them with outrage, it's just the natural order of things. What else could you expect?

For the same reason, Russians live more comfortably with their Muslim subjects than people in the west. They've been to war with them before, they've experienced as much terrorism as anyone, but they aren't seeing those problems through so many layers of lies and denial. It's much easier to stay calm and rational when the truth isn't fighting just to be heard. Russia is far from perfect, but they're a lot better off than we are.

Now, on to Putin. What's his deal? In the west, we have an entrenched system of total Jewish supremacy. We look at our own leaders and ask if they're with the Jews, or against them. We look at it as a binary question, there is no middle ground. And we're not wrong to see it that way, because the Jewish system does not tolerate any dissent. It doesn't allow neutrality or nuance. If you defy them on one thing, they treat you as their enemy on all things.

In Russia, however, Jews don't have that kind of power. They can't just destroy everyone who gets in their way. They're not powerless, don't get me wrong, but they're just one lobby among many, not The Lobby. They have to bargain and compete and trade favors like everyone else, they can't just get their way with orders and threats. Their relationship with power is transactional, in short.

This was true even in the post-Soviet 1990s, when Jewish oligarchs scammed their way into control of most of the Russian economy. The Yeltsin government was subservient to them, but that was never out of devotion, the way it is in the US. It was just because they had all the money. So they could buy the government, and they did, but the Jewish domination did not extend into Russia's schools, churches, entertainment, and other culture-shaping institutions, nor had the Jews filled the ranks of the armed forces, the police, and the security services with their own cadres of loyalists. The Jewish regime in Russia was an octopus with a head but no tentacles, which was why it proved so fragile and short-lived.

Finally, Putin enters the picture as Yeltsin's chosen successor. The leaders of the Jewish oligarchy end up in prison, in exile, or subservient to Putin and stripped of their power. Was this their plan? In some 5D Chess style way? I think those kinds of arguments are just as ridiculous when applied to the Jews as they are when you're talking about Putin or whoever. This was bad for them, plain and simple. They had power, and they lost it. Russia had accepted US world domination, and now it would challenge it again.

Why did they let this happen? Why didn't they arrange an accident for Putin and fight to keep control? The answer is, they knew it was a fight they weren't going to win. Putin wasn't a one of a kind individual, an exception to the rule. He represented the whole power bloc of the Russian security services, and if they got rid of him, someone just like him would take his place. Putin offered them a very generous deal, a comfortable retirement and amnesty for their crimes in exchange for a peaceful handover of power. They could take it, or they could fight. If they fought, they'd lose. The Jews had all the money, but Putin had all the guns and the support of the people. It was as good a deal as they were going to get, so most of them took it, and the rest were easily gotten rid of.

So the real question is, why was Putin so generous to them? He had his own reasons to be. If he'd chosen a more forceful approach, to make no deals, to hunt them all down and serve each of them the justice they deserved, he'd have won in the end. But the Jews would have gone scorched earth first, and destroyed what remained of Russia's economy.

Their compatriots in the US would then have have subjected Russia to the kind of international sanctions regime it's under right now. But back then, China was only just beginning its meteoric rise to power. China today is ten times stronger than China around the year 2000, both militarily and economically. India was five times weaker than it is now. Iran and Turkey weren't even half as strong. There'd have been no BRICS, no alternative partners strong enough to defy the US world order. Russia would stand alone and crippled. It would have been a total catastrophe.

Because of this state of affairs, offering the deal was the better option. Let these Jew criminals off easily to keep the peace with the Jews abroad, so Russia could be free to rebuild and recover from all the damage they'd inflicted. It wasn't ideal, but it was a practical decision.

And the Jews in the US, why did they go along with this? It's easy to forget, but before the liberation of Crimea in 2012, America's media wasn't portraying Putin as the new Hitler. His popular image was more positive than negative, in fact. He was the cool KGB spy who was riding horses and wrestling bears. Badass. Then the Jews flipped a switch in 2012, and by the next year he was the world's most insidious villain. Why didn't that happen sooner?

Reason number one, Jewish power was still its ascendency in America during the 90s. It was substantial, but not yet total. So they could steer America's policy on various things, but they couldn't quite dictate it on everything. Second, Putin was a reasonable figure who could be bargained with. They worried that the alternatives might not be. And thirdly, the Jews elsewhere were honestly sort of embarrassed by the Jew oligarchs in Russia, by just how openly corrupt and criminal they were. It was very embarrassing that Russia was poorer under US style capitalism than it had been under communism. Because they didn't have total power yet, the Jews were not as arrogant. They weren't going mask off and being comic book villains as they are now, they still cared about maintaining a good public image. The ones in Russia had gone full cartoon villain, and it served the interests of the Jews abroad to have them quietly retired and forgotten.

That's the story of how Putin came to power. A pragmatic compromise between the Russians and the Jews. Now how has he ruled since then? He spent a decade or so attempting to negotiate a place of respect for Russia within the US international system, while reaching out at the same time to other rising powers like China and India. Collectively, they hoped to reform the system into one that was fairer to them. The US refused to relinquish its monopoly on power, and went on its insane Jewish rampage through the Middle East. Putin forged a strong partnership with Xi, and they steadily built up a network of other states opposed to the US hegemony.

You can't look at any of that and say that it serves the interests of the Jews. US hegemony is Jewish hegemony. It's theirs, they don't want anybody challenging or escaping it. They're very open and straightforward about that. In the domestic sphere, Putin has encouraged a revival of Russian Christianity, and suppressed the homosexual ideology that all countries under Jewish dominion have embraced. Again, this does not serve the Jew agenda at all.

People like Ukraine's retard-Nazis will zero in on different pieces of evidence. "Look at this thing he said at the Chabad center in 2008" or "look at what he said about Israel in 2012" or "look at the red bracelet he wore at one event and was never seen with again." Look at this and that and that and this, but ignore the bigger picture. What was Russia like before Putin was in charge, and what is Russia like now? What direction is it heading in? What has been the trajectory of Russia's relations with the US and other world powers under Putin? They know the answers to those bigger questions don't line up with their arguments, so they always steer the discussion onto trivia instead.

And finally, how does Putin feel about the Jews, on a personal level? Is he secret Hitler? Or is he secretly taking his orders from them? These are both ridiculous questions. Putin isn't a secret anything, he is just something Americans have a hard time recognizing; he is a liberal nationalist. This strikes us as a contradiction, but this was once a pretty common thing (I'm talking pre-20th century, for the most part). Someone who is genuinely proud and protective of his culture, but still friendly and tolerant to those outside of it, who prefers cooperation over conflict. Liberal nationalism mostly died out in the west as these camps turned on one another and polarized into total retardation ("everyone who isn't in my tribe is an enemy that needs to be conquered or wiped out" vs "borders aren't real and everyone is welcome here, my tribe deserves to go extinct"), and we're only used to seeing the gay and fake version of it here, but there's other places in the world where it's still a thing.

This in reflected in Russia's foreign policy under Putin. Russia has looked beyond Europe and found new partners in China, India, Iran, and Korea. Putin crushed the terrorist Chechen rebel state, but reconciled them as a vassal kingdom under a friendly warlord. Russia tries to maintain cordial relations with both sides in various conflicts.

Sometimes this works out very well for them. Russia has kept both China and India on board with the greater BRICS project in spite of their rivalry with one another, and India's own ties to the west. Both of them came through for Russia when the west imposed its sanctions, ensuring the sanctions plan would fail.

Sometimes this goes badly wrong, like it just did in Syria with Turkey and Israel reneging on the arrangements Russia had established with them.

Putin has a number of different mistakes on his record, but Russia has been resilient enough to bounce back each time, and Putin has slowly but surely learned from them. He eventually realized that nothing but force would halt the US empire's expansion in Ukraine, and he's going to end up coming to that same conclusion on Israel as well.

Putin feels no personal animus towards the Jews, and has preferred to settle Russia's issues with Israel diplomatically, but the Jews just aren't going to leave him that choice much longer. They are out of control and on a total rampage, offering no options to their enemies but submission or destruction.

Putin doesn't need (or deserve) to be praised as a flawless strategist. I will call his mistakes when I see them, and Russia certainly made some in Syria. But all this "Putin is with the Jews" and "Russia is just as bad" talk that is starting to spread around is retarded.


COMMENT
QuoteI am impressed. That is a superb summation of relevant history of Putin and Russia.

I am still concerned that Putin's demonstrably steadfast desire for sanity and rule of law handicaps him in dealing with jews in a timely manner.

Jews are the only group that goes all in on anything they perceive as beneficial to them or as a threat to them. Putin isn't alone with being reluctant to grapple with the implications of the Jewish mindset. All sane leaders are wary of them and just hope that somehow sanity will win out. Good luck with that.

RESPONSE
QuoteValid concerns, Russia has suffered a number of times from putting too much faith in reasoning with the unreasonable, or being too slow to react to a crisis. There are pluses and minuses to Putin's style of leadership.

In general, Internet commentary is very cynical and very driven by the 24 hour and the 2 week news cycles, so people tend to focus heavily upon the decisions that go wrong, and overlook or take for granted the ones that were right.

Russia's relationship with China is one of the most important achievements of Putin's presidency. People act like it's just a thing that happened naturally, but building the alliance with China was very much a personal initiative of Putin's, and pushed forward in spite of a lot of internal skepticism and reluctance from the Russian elites.

Things are slowly changing, especially as the world conflict intensifies, but the Russian people do not harbor a natural love for the Chinese. There's a lot of innate tribalism behind that. Small eyes. Can't trust them. The same instincts the Jews play on to stir up anti-China sentiment in America. Many Russians still look down on the Chinese and believe that their true friends are in the west.

Putin overruled them and placed his bets on Sino-Friendship instead. That has proven to be a very wise decision.