Time to walk the walk: I'm not going to get the forced vaccines they want medical students to get.

[joeblow]

Time to walk the walk: I'm not going to get the forced vaccines they want medical students to get.



I'm a medical student and they've just started to try to force people to get vaccinations. It's one thing saying "fuck off" and another when it's either get the vaccines or don't get your degree.



I've decided that to try to go as far as one can without getting them. What will probably happen is that I won't get my degree and will have to leave school. Oh well...

[sullivan]

I wouldn't give up on the degree just like that. The enforced vaccination can probably be challenged by any competent lawyer wanting to make a name for themselves.

[Ralph Furely]

i have that same hat.

[sullivan]

&c, while I would generally agree with you about lawyers, there are lawyers, however rare, who do put principle before profit and who love taking on cases like this, particularly if they are novel and have potential to make case law. Finding one is the difficult part.

Filing suit yourself can be done, but you need to be able to enumerate every item of your claim, and substantiate it by pointing to current legislation or case law that will support your claim. That's not that easy. Then you've got the court case. Whether right or wrong, some jurists have a distinct bias against those who dare to act as their own defense counsel. Negotiating that particular hurdle can be difficult, even for the most legally-aware and prepared of plaintiffs.

The legal profession is a den of vipers, but don't forget that there are occasional gems to be found. QRSWave over at WUFYS is one.

[nik]

LOL at the third photo.

Good luck with that.

Is it due to part of the degree necessitating coming potentially into contact with pathogens?

Fucked as it is, it sounds like a hard one to win, tbh - perhaps you could modify your the nature of your degree if they present you with a 'get them or get out' ultimatum.

As said, good luck.

[Anonymous]

I doubt very much that the are mandatory. You have to look at the wording of any document they send you. They will need you to sign a consent form of some sort or another usually. I had a similar situation here with friends whose schools sent a letter home to get kids the mandatory vaccines.

Thank you for your enquiry dated 4 November 2008.

Please be informed that in Hong Kong there is no statutory requirement for
students to
complete vaccination before entering schools.  However, children in Hong
Kong are advised to receive vaccines under the local childhood immunisation
programme as illustrated in the following  URL:
http://www.chp.gov.hk/files/pdf/Childho ... 007_en.pdf

for Director of Health  

So you see if you ask them to provide you with the statute that forces you to do something they will tell you it's not mandatory. and even if a statute says must or mandatory it is usually written in such a way that what is mandatory or is a must is actually voluntary. I would ask them for the act or statute and then deconstruct it using a law dictionary. But usually if they have to make you sign something then it is not mandatory.

[kolnidre]

If I had to challenge such a proclamation from a medical standpoint I would collect the mountain of evidence demonstrating that pathogens cannot survive in a healthy body. In other words, refer to studies and evidence proving Pasteur's bogus "germ theory" dangerous and misguided. See the work of Ross Horne, for instance.

Pasteur is said to have recanted on the "germ theory" before he kicked the bucket, saying "The germin is nothing - the milieu is everything." In other words, the balance of the environment or internal ecosystem is what determines health and disease.

[MikeWB]

Living without cancer and mercury is better than graduating. Fuck it.

[QuiteCharming]

My university also requires vaccinations, but we have a waiver form that we can fill out if someone has a medical reason or personal objections to the vaccines. I filled one out and was never questioned nor did I have any issues after that. Really, I'm sure this won't be a problem and surely shouldn't stop you from persuing your education.

[sullivan]

There's a thought... if you cite your objection to the vaccination as being on religious grounds, they'll be far more likely to run scared of it and give you the option of a waiver.

[joeblow]

There's a thought... if you cite your objection to the vaccination as being on religious grounds, they'll be far more likely to run scared of it and give you the option of a waiver.

You're the second person to suggest this to me and I thank you!

I've been reading all the university "policies" and what other people have said on forums, nothing helpful. I then sat down and actually went through ALL the laws as they apply and the filthy, good for nothing, eugenic-loving only stopping in 1985 government says:

http://www.st.org/currentSite/public/we ... /2010B.pdf

LAG OCH AVTAL
LAGAR
för
offentliga sektorn

LAW AND CONTRACT
LAWS
for
the Public Sector

Om ett arbete innebär risk för ohälsa eller olycksfall, kan regeringen eller,
efter regeringens bestämmande, Arbetsmiljöverket föreskriva om skyldighet
att föranstalta om läkarundersökning eller vaccinering eller annan förebyggande
behandling mot smitta av dem som sysselsätts eller skall sysselsättas i arbetet.
Föreskrift kan också meddelas om förbud att till arbetet anlita den som vid
läkarundersökning har företett sjuklighet eller svaghet som gör honom särskilt
mottaglig för en sådan risk.

If a work includes a risk of ill-health or accident, the government can or,
after the government's decision, the Labor Department regulate the necessity
to arrange for doctor-examination or VACCINATION or any other preventative
treatment against infection by those who are employed or shall be employed in work.
Regulation can also be announced of prohibition to work for he, upon
doctor-examination, has shown sickness or weakness which makes him especially
susceptible for such a risk.

P.S.

Sweden seems to be going crazy about forcing all the women to get HPV vaccine and farm animals Blåtunga vaccine, I mean they seem to be EXTREMELY anxious about it?!!!

A human papillomavirus (HPV) is a papillomavirus that infects the skin and mucous membranes of humans. Approximately 130 HPV types have been identified. Some HPV types can cause warts (verrucae) or some types of cancer, while others have no symptoms.

Bluetongue disease or catarrhal fever is a non-contagious, insect-borne viral disease of ruminants, mainly sheep and less frequently of cattle,[1] goats, buffalo, deer, dromedaries and antelope. It is caused by the Bluetongue virus.

There are no reports of human transmission. Although the tongues of human patients with some types of heart disease may be blue, this sign is not related to bluetongue disease.

[MikeWB]

Can you switch majors if they boot you? Like I said, life's worth more than getting eugenics-approved vaccines.

I had a new daughter this past year and they wanted to vaccinate her. I complained and they never went after us. But your case is different and they'll claim that you could infect patients etc...

Claiming that you're refusing for religious reasons probably won't go far because when they start holding a hearing to hear your case, they'll bring in an Imam and some Muslim doctor who will say you're lying.  They're not stupid.

I'd go with "vaccines are unsafe and cause more problems than they help" defense. It's true and you won't be caught lying. You can then bring some papers and try to prove it to them. Truth is on your side... you don't need lies to fight them.

[QuiteCharming]

"But your case is different and they'll claim that you could infect patients etc... "

I doubt that they will start a witch hunt over this because the largest group of nonvaccinated people is the medical community. They know these vaccines are bad so they won't make their future replacements expose themselves to those poisons either.

No need to stir the pot over this one joeblow (unless you want to ) The waiver form I filled out didn't even differentiate between personal, religious or medical objections. It was a simple form and I never heard another word about it once I filled one out.

[§N9sh2bj]

Vaccines are a crock of shit.

Go to a naturopathic school, not a 'we only treat gentiles, not cure them, sez the talmud' one.

[MikeWB]

Joeblow, any updates? Hope you're fighting them! Don't allow anyone to poison you.

[joeblow]

Joeblow, any updates? Hope you're fighting them! Don't allow anyone to poison you.

Thank you kind friend for asking. Right now, I'm focusing on studying for an upcoming test and setting up the Bittorrent tracker. I'm going to bypass the school and attempt to contact local medical establishments where one would do their apprenticeship and see if there is some sort of "waiver".

If that fails, I'll be contacting a local lawyer, if they'll work pro-bono, then it's all good. Otherwise, I'll be switching majors to a non-vaccine wanting one.

[MikeWB]

Joeblow, any updates? Hope you're fighting them! Don't allow anyone to poison you.

Thank you kind friend for asking. Right now, I'm focusing on studying for an upcoming test and setting up the Bittorrent tracker. I'm going to bypass the school and attempt to contact local medical establishments where one would do their apprenticeship and see if there is some sort of "waiver".

If that fails, I'll be contacting a local lawyer, if they'll work pro-bono, then it's all good. Otherwise, I'll be switching majors to a non-vaccine wanting one.

Thank you for the update. We're all here like family so please keep us updated and ask for help if you ever need some!

Just use all the legal avenues you can. You have the truth on your side!

[gurdgieff]

In the UK lots of little girls got compulsory vaccines against some sort of cancer last month.
the company that owns the flu jag hoax that cost the NHS millions.is owned by donald rumsfelt and his jew pals.
They are criminalising the sale of vitamin suppliments and other food suppliments so you can only get them on prescription
I wonder what pharmaciutical corporation will get the contract.
who owns  veolia ?.
who owns the wise group?

[gurdgieff]

our first enemy is the ignorant stupidity of our nieghbours.

[joeblow]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/accidental- ... sible.html

 'Accidental' Contamination Of Vaccine With Live Avian Flu Virus Virtually Impossible

Czech Papers Question Whether Contaminated Baxter Vaccine Was 'Attempt to Provoke Pandemic'



Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, March 5, 2009

Czech newspapers are questioning if the shocking discovery of vaccines contaminated with the deadly avian flu virus which were distributed to 18 countries by the American company Baxter were part of a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic.

The claim holds weight because, according to the very laboratory protocols that are routine for vaccine makers, mixing a live virus biological weapon with vaccine material by accident is virtually impossible.

"The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses," reports the Canadian Press.

Baxter flu vaccines contaminated with H5N1 - otherwise known as the human form of avian flu, one of the most deadly biological weapons on earth with a 60% kill rate - were received by labs in the Czech Republic, Germany, and Slovenia.

Initially, Baxter attempted to stonewall questions by invoking "trade secrets" and refused to reveal how the vaccines were contaminated with H5N1. After increased pressure they then claimed that pure H5N1 batches were sent by accident. This was seemingly an attempt to quickly change the story and hide the fact that the accidental contamination of a vaccine with a deadly biological agent like avian flu is virtually impossible and the only way it could have happened was by wilful gross criminal negligence.

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Accidental Contamination Of Vaccine With Live Avian Flu Virus Virtually Impossible obamadecept_340x169

According to a compiled translation from Czech newspaper stories, the media over there is asking tough questions about whether the contamination was part of a deliberate attempt to start a pandemic.

"Was this just a criminal negligence or it was an attempt to provoke pandemia using vaccination against flu to spread the disease - as happened with the anti-B hepatitis vaccination with vaccines containing the HIV virus in US? - and then cash for the vaccines against H5N1 which Baxter develops? How could on Earth a virus as H5N1 come to the ordinary flu vaccines? Don't they follow even basic precautions in the american pharma companies?" states the translation.

The fact that Baxter mixed the deadly H5N1 virus with a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses is the smoking gun. The H5N1 virus on its own has killed hundreds of people, but it is less airborne and more restricted in the ease with which it can spread. However, when combined with seasonal flu viruses, which as everyone knows are super-airborne and easily spread, the effect is a potent, super-airbone, super deadly biological weapon.

As the Canadian Press article explains, "While H5N1 doesn't easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people."

There can be little doubt therefore that this was a deliberate attempt to weaponize the H5N1 virus to its most potent extreme and distribute it via conventional flu vaccines to the population who would then infect others to a devastating degree as the disease went airborne.

The Canadian Press article states, "That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created," but then claims that there is no evidence that this is what Baxter were doing, despite there being no clear explanation as to why Baxter has samples of the live avian flu virus on its premises in the first place.

However, to reiterate, the key aspect of this story is that it is virtually impossible for live avian flu virus to find its way into a vaccine by "accident".

As health expert Mike Adams points out, "The shocking answer is that this couldn't have been an accident. Why? Because Baxter International adheres to something called BSL3 (Biosafety Level 3) - a set of laboratory safety protocols that prevent the cross-contamination of materials."

As explained on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosaf...):

"Laboratory personnel have specific training in handling pathogenic and potentially lethal agents, and are supervised by competent scientists who are experienced in working with these agents. This is considered a neutral or warm zone. All procedures involving the manipulation of infectious materials are conducted within biological safety cabinets or other physical containment devices, or by personnel wearing appropriate personal protective clothing and equipment. The laboratory has special engineering and design features."

    Under the BSL3 code of conduct, it is impossible for live avian flu viruses to contaminate production vaccine materials that are shipped out to vendors around the world.

    This leaves only two possibilities that explain these events:

    Possibility #1: Baxter isn't following BSL3 safety guidelines or is so sloppy in following them that it can make monumental mistakes that threaten the safety of the entire human race. And if that's the case, then why are we injecting our children with vaccines made from Baxter's materials?

    Possibility #2: A rogue employee (or an evil plot from the top management) is present at Baxter, whereby live avian flu viruses were intentionally placed into the vaccine materials in the hope that such materials might be injected into humans and set off a global bird flu pandemic.

Spreading bird flu would create an instantaneous surge of demand for bird flu vaccines. The profits that vaccine companies such as Baxter International could reap out of such a panic are astronomical.

In addition, as we have previously reported, those that have a stake in the Tamiflu vaccine include top globalists and BIlderberg members like George Shultz, Lodewijk J.R. de Vink and former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

Authorities in both Europe and the U.S. have openly detailed plans for martial law, quarantine and internment should a bird flu pandemic occur.

The other motivation, as we have exhaustively documented on this website for years, is the fact that elites throughout history have openly stated that they want to see a world population reduction of around 80 per cent. Shocking stories like this take the plausibility of that narrative out of the realms of conspiracy theory and into the dangerous reality of conspiracy fact.

"Baxter is acting a whole lot like a biological terrorism organization these days, sending deadly viral samples around the world. If you mail an envelope full of anthrax to your Senator, you get arrested as a terrorist. So why is Baxter — which mailed samples of a far more deadly viral strain to labs around the world — getting away with saying, essentially, "Oops?", Adams concludes.

This is not the first time that vaccine companies have been caught distributing vaccines contaminated with deadly viruses.

In 2006 it was revealed that Bayer Corporation had discovered that their injection drug, which was used by hemophiliacs, was contaminated with the HIV virus. Internal documents prove that after they positively knew that the drug was contaminated, they took it off the U.S. market only to dump it on the European, Asian and Latin American markets, knowingly exposing thousands, most of them children, to the live HIV virus. Government officials in France went to prison for allowing the drug to be distributed. The documents show that the FDA colluded with Bayer to cover-up the scandal and allowed the deadly drug to be distributed globally. No Bayer executives ever faced arrest or prosecution in the United States.