Being Savage # 25 - History - Morozov

[Anonymous]

Being Savage # 25

Readings from the following

http://books.google.com.hk/books?id=Ycj ... n#PPA19,M1

http://www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi101.htm

http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpag ... c_id/13134

http://www.hindawi.com/GetPDF.aspx?doi= ... 3394000109

With regards to Morozov
his life
his scientific work with regards to chronology
his limitations and errors
Translation of Revelations
Morozov states Islam used to be Judaism until the crusades
the medieval empire of the Israelites claims that Islam and Judaism where the same when they were both the monotheism of the byzantine empire.
After the break up of "the empire" and the formation of nation states and mini empires the split off, the judias claiming to be the bearers of the eternal faith

[high_treason]

With regards to Islam and Judiasm, Islam means submission to God/Allah. In the Noble Quran it states that Ibrahim/Ibraham (PBUH) was a Muslim (Submitting to God). I still didn't listen to the show and I don't really know who Morozov is. But Jews fought Prophet Mohammed (SAW) and betrayed him in the battle of Khandaq (the Trench) and for this he declared war on their strongest tribe Khaybar and exiled them from Arabia.

As for the Byzantines they were never monothiests, they didn't follow any cults except in the One Rome era and they staid as Orthodox Christian until their final defeat in 1400s by the Ottomans. Infact the Byzantines rejected Islam and the tribe of Ghassasina (Arab Orthodox Christians) which fought against the Muslims were beaten in the battle of Yarmuk. Before Islam the only two monothiestic religions left were Zoroastarian and Judiasm. For us Muslims we believe that the Torah of Judiasm was corrupted by the "Ahbar" Pharasees (don't know how you spell it) and Zoroastarians was also a heavily corrupted form of Judiasm. The Byzantine empire after its defeat it staid an empire (Greece, Bulgaria, Turkey and Armenia) and the strongest until the crusades, the Muslim empire was also formed so it wasn't a mini empire, it had from India (Sindh) all the way to Andulusia (Spain)...that is hardly a mini empire!

Again as the researchers who wrote that book "Medieval history of the Israelites" focus entirely on the West while ignoring the Orient, they fail to look at all the documents and messages available to us Muslims which were kept since Prophet Mohammed (SAW). There were some Jews who became Muslims and are highly regarded companions. Jews are mentioned by name in Quran as Yahud and Bni Israel.

Also of importance to note that there is a whole volume called Israeliyat written by a Sahaby (Companion) Abdullah bin Salam who was a Jewish Rabbi and reverted to Islam. The volume tells background stories of events and people mentioned in the Noble Quran, however he warns that it is not to be taken as absolute truth since it is taken from the Old Testament. There are also a lot of letters and messages exchanged between Emirs and Khaliphs with Christendom that are available in Musuems across the world. Iraq and Andalusia were the centers of learning before the crusades and for a while after. So it seems strange not to refer back to those areas since its like writting about today's history and events without mentioning USA. So again I'm taking this book with a grain of salt as it seems to ignore a large part of history in the Orient and looks at the entire world as if it was only the West.

[Anonymous]

With regards to Islam and Judiasm, Islam means submission to God/Allah. In the Noble Quran it states that Ibrahim/Ibraham (PBUH) was a Muslim (Submitting to God). I still didn't listen to the show and I don't really know who Morozov is. But Jews fought Prophet Mohammed (SAW) and betrayed him in the battle of Khandaq (the Trench) and for this he declared war on their strongest tribe Khaybar and exiled them from Arabia.

As for the Byzantines they were never monothiests, they didn't follow any cults except in the One Rome era and they staid as Orthodox Christian until their final defeat in 1400s by the Ottomans. Infact the Byzantines rejected Islam and the tribe of Ghassasina (Arab Orthodox Christians) which fought against the Muslims were beaten in the battle of Yarmuk. Before Islam the only two monothiestic religions left were Zoroastarian and Judiasm. For us Muslims we believe that the Torah of Judiasm was corrupted by the "Ahbar" Pharasees (don't know how you spell it) and Zoroastarians was also a heavily corrupted form of Judiasm. The Byzantine empire after its defeat it staid an empire (Greece, Bulgaria, Turkey and Armenia) and the strongest until the crusades, the Muslim empire was also formed so it wasn't a mini empire, it had from India (Sindh) all the way to Andulusia (Spain)...that is hardly a mini empire!

Again as the researchers who wrote that book "Medieval history of the Israelites" focus entirely on the West while ignoring the Orient, they fail to look at all the documents and messages available to us Muslims which were kept since Prophet Mohammed (SAW). There were some Jews who became Muslims and are highly regarded companions. Jews are mentioned by name in Quran as Yahud and Bni Israel.

Also of importance to note that there is a whole volume called Israeliyat written by a Sahaby (Companion) Abdullah bin Salam who was a Jewish Rabbi and reverted to Islam. The volume tells background stories of events and people mentioned in the Noble Quran, however he warns that it is not to be taken as absolute truth since it is taken from the Old Testament. There are also a lot of letters and messages exchanged between Emirs and Khaliphs with Christendom that are available in Musuems across the world. Iraq and Andalusia were the centers of learning before the crusades and for a while after. So it seems strange not to refer back to those areas since its like writting about today's history and events without mentioning USA. So again I'm taking this book with a grain of salt as it seems to ignore a large part of history in the Orient and looks at the entire world as if it was only the West.

Cool any sources to review?

[Anonymous]

High_ Treason

I am looking to what you wrote to see what I can find, but something jumped out at me right off the bat.

that was

battle of Khandaq (the trench) or (the ditch)
The word khandaq is the Arabic form of the Persian word kandah (meaning "it has been dug")

KHAN always peaks my interest when I see it, because it always reminds me of Genghis Khan the Khan of Khans or king of kings. This Khan keeps popping up in places I would hardly expect it to appear. as demonstrated in my previous show with the [Buta Khan or Vatican]. I have come across many over the several past weeks.

from what I can find on the battle of Khandaq, it is claimed to have taken place in 627A.D.

Any ideas on how this battle was dated to the exact date of March 31, 627 A.D.

Other things that have jumped out at me while researching this further are things like

Ishmael and Ishmaelites

These terms seem so close to ISraEL and ISraELITE - that just pops out at me for some reason.

It is also very close to Samuel

from what I read the Arabs were called Ishmaelites because they were progeny of Ishmael son of Abraham and later called themselves Saracens which aligns them to Sarah wife of Abraham.

thanks