The Vegan Conspiracy -- parts I,II,III

[Jenny Lake]

The Vegan Conspiracy
 article by Jennifer Lake
 
Veganism (vee'-gan-is'-m), while hardly catching on in the general population, is promoted more and more by officialized "health" advocates. Only 1 to 2% of the public is claimed by survey to endorse it. The distinct difference betweens vegans and vegetarians is a complete rejection of all products issuing from animal sources. This is a new and unprecedented development in human history, highly dependent on "scientism" and supplements, with a grossly inadequate body of evidence to support it. In fact, the evidence against veganism is gathering like storm clouds. But why should you care if so few people are interested, and not likely to be put off of their usual cuisine? The answer may lie in the interests of governments, policy creation, and the health fascism taking root within the establishment.
 
It's clear that the agricultural heritage of humankind would be greatly impacted by a shift toward veganism, most notably the elimination of small farms producing eggs and dairy, perhaps the last truly independent farmers. Apart from the land-grabbing potential underlying the vegan politic is a question about the impact to health : is it good for you? Reformed fruitarian Arnold DeVries, author of "The Elixir of Life" recounts the experience of the great Mohandas Gandhi and his followers who attempted disciplined experiments in veganism in the 1920s. The group fell into weakness and sickness and despite decades of experimental effort with veganism, Gandhi declared in 1946, "The crores of India today get neither milk nor ghee nor butter, nor even buttermilk. No wonder that mortality figures are on the increase and there is a lack of energy in the people. It would appear as if man is really unable to sustain life without either meat or milk and milk products. Anyone who deceives people in this regard or countenances the fraud is an enemy of India.". Gandhi was compelled to restore himself with fresh goat's milk. [1].  
 
The ruination of milk in our modern times is the result of criminal industrial practices and the many frauds of pasteurization. The health of any animal is indisputably entwined with the quality of its environment and the appropriateness of its food supply. Destroying the goodness of meat, milk, and eggs is a long travail through the horrors of industrialization but the plant kingdom of living creatures has also been deeply subject to forced industrial insult. Genetic modifications notwithstanding, adulterated WATER, contaminated rain, and run-off have poisoned everyone's food for more than a century. Read the online synopsis of "Death by Faucet" on the synergistic health effects of water pollution by researcher Glen Caulkins. [2]. Vegan voices, however, selectively disregard the inconvenient scientific truths and push moral arguments and  foolish ideas in their place. It is propaganda, after all. The main moral argument is self-evident animal abuse which is just no "argument", as in the example of the turn-of-the-last-century public crying out on behalf of the Union Stockyard cattle inmates described by Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle". Chicago's Union Stockyards were financed by the Rothschild banking house of Kuhn, Loeb, and Co. with partnership in the operations and it doesn't go lower than their bottom line. The foolish ideas from vegans about "human design" are dependent on the clinch of moral arguments and the hope that you won't look up the basic facts about the differences in human and animal anatomy. An example is the pervasive  promotion of the idea that humans have long intestinal tracts "like herbivores". Reality. Average cow --130 foot intestine with a special four-compartment stomach called a rumen. Average goat --100 foot intestine with a four-compartment rumen. Average human --25 foot intestine with a single stomach. This is like selling candied cereal to children, and perhaps that is exactly the intent. [3].
 
So, who are these vegan voices, and what's the angle? Dr. Peter Singer is one of the more prominent spokesman for veganism in the U.S., endorsed by PETA, also a vegan promoter. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) maintains a large organizational presence on the internet and has inserted the word "cautious" into their official endorsement of Peter Singer ever since he publicly enunciated his comfort with the practice of bestiality. Singer, author of the book "Animal Liberation" and much more, ranks in the highest strata of academia as a medical ethicist. His views have been deemed anti-human especially in the characterization of infants as "lacking essential personhood" and therefore "simply killing an infant is never equivalent to killing a person". Singer writes for the Greater Good Science Center at UCBerkeley and the journalistic Zionist think tank, Project Syndicate, among other professional outlets, and decries the posturing of "speciesists".[4]. PETA, in their promotion of vegan nutrition, has posted a webpage of acceptable snackfoods at www.peta.org/accidentallyVegan/ to encourage the faint of heart that potato chips, cookies, and soft drinks are good products for vegans too. Ironically, the fine print warns that ingredients derived from animal sources may be present in the listed foods. It's okay! , says PETA-- it's about the MESSAGE.
 
McDonald's could have used the help of PETA publicists before it was sued in a class-action lawsuit by six religionists who were in part members of the North American Vegetarian Society in Oppenheim, New York. The "class" ate McD's french fries tainted by an animal substance and won six million dollars, having to battle over the loot with other vegetarian organizations who felt entitled to share. All of the organizations are designated as educational non-profits and need funds to expand their "awareness campaigns" --maybe they started by educating their members on the hazards of schmoozing around Big Macs after the cash cow goes dry. Less controversially, but more expensively, I heard Reggie McVeggie needs a new tour bus. Fortunately for Reggie's friends, they won't have to put up a legal defense fund for an infringement suit by McDonald's. The matter was already legally challenged, settled, and Reggie won the right to exist. While review of this case seems oddly hand-in-glove to this researcher, the "message" that PETA is encouraging happy snackers to send to food manufacturers appears to be "it's okay to sell animal-derived ingredients in products to vegans".  It smells like another lawsuit and it looks like another Hegelian construct of controlled opposition. What up Veggies?
 
Beyond the legal hi-jinks are the sincerely practicing vegans who wouldn't be caught dead in McDonald's. Their history begins with the founding of the British Vegan Society in 1944 by Donald Watson. Watson, born in 1910, is typical of a vegan who is converted in adulthood, but atypical for being raised on a family farm eating fresh milk, eggs, and meat until the age of 32. Watson's longevity into his 90s is credited to veganism. Searching for other geriatric vegans grew into a daunting task, however. Dr. Stanley Bass illustrates the dilemna on his website in a particular interview with the Essene Brother John. Brother John is now a contented lacto-vegetarian after losing his health from 5 years of veganism with a cautionary tale to tell. Once a professional vegan proponent, Brother John relates the rampant cheating he witnessed among other professional vegan proponents, people who write and sell books on the benefits of veganism, sneaking around to eat pizza and other savory unmentionables. He wouldn't name names, as a sort of professional courtesy, but his story certainly troubles the waters. More testimonials on Dr. Bass' website from non-cheaters, like Greg Westbrook and his fellowship on the Hallelujah Diet attest to the health crises confronted by aspiring vegans. They echo in form and substance the experience of Gandhi and the authenticity of people striving to practice their beliefs.
 
The environmentalism of the 1970s provided ethical twinship to the vegan cause as could no other time in history, hence its appearance in pocketed groups within the schema of Earth activists. It is largely an environmental platform that floats the vegan ideology today and the concern over animal "footprints" ( flatulent bovines are contributing to Global Warming, dontcha know?!)  Food informationists in the 70s, who issued the booklet "You Are What You Eat", capitalized on the world's hungry and  informed a wakening public of the unbalanced exchange of food calories in grain and water into meat and milk which is still the current positioning. But, it was true then as it is now that modern agriculture has produced enough grain and plant-based foodstuffs to provide over 4 pounds of food per person per day to everyone on the planet and still feed the animals. Hunger in the modern world has never been about food production shortages in the same way that petroleum Oil has never been in shortage. The problem is abundance and corruption. Or has been, but who can say now, with weather weapons, distribution breakdowns, and genocidal maniacs on top of the game? Veganism is one more weaponized food program in the battle of nutrition information, an extreme example of the ideals enshrined in the Food Guide Pyramid.
 
The International Vegetarian Union was founded in 1908 and set out to become a template of high-minded global governance, its membership going on to establish offshoot organizations like the World Union of Vegetarian/Vegan Societies, founded by Alex Hershaft, who claim  of their "promoting vegetarianism worldwide since 1908". Interesting year, 1908. The U.S. federal government passed the draconian Quarantine Act, the first human virus, poliovirus, was "discovered", and Eugenics was legalizing its criminal practices. Feeding experiments on animals in private laboratories were proving that meat and fresh milk would help the animals recover from the traumatic treatments of surgery, irradiation, and chemical poisoning. Victorian hospitals had already noted the added susceptibility of patients to drug uptake when deprived of fat and protein-rich foods, which must have delighted the charity institutions who could feed people cheaply and get a bonus of better drug response. It surely plays a part in the institutional human experiments covertly carried out with vaccines and pharmaceuticals and explains much about the reasons why healing foods were not served in hospitals. By extension, it explains much about why drug-pushing doctors finish medical school ignorant of nutrition.
 
Critics of veganism mince no words in identifying the practice as a religion. William Jarvis of the National Council Against Health Fraud calls veganism "an hygienic religion that meets deep emotional needs of its followers who revel in self-denial and wars against pleasure". Examples of spiritual cults provide the only historic background for the antiquity of vegetarianism, largely a proscription against eating anything that copulates. These monastics sanctioned the eating of fish because fish don't Do It, not for any perceived benefits of health. Jewish vegetarianism is a teaching intended to usher in the messianic age, also not for reasons of health or animal welfare. It's intriguing to read that "according to some Kabbalists, only a mystic, who is able to sense and elevate the reincarnated human souls and 'divine sparks' is permitted to consume meat..." [5].
 
 
Notes and References
[1]website of Stanley Bass at www.drbass.com, and read about the Hallelujah diet experience at www.naturalhygienesociety.org/diet3.html
[2] Death By Faucet, readable info on water contamination and health effects, found at www.youarebeingpoisoned.com
[3] share this with the kids on anatomy, http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Anatomy_an ... _Digestion
[4]the wikipedia, on Peter Singer, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer
[5] www.reference.com/browse/vegetarians/ for a general overview and the quote above
 
 
 
Part II
 
Time, experience, and tradition have been humanity's greatest teachers. The flowerings of all human thought and endeavor rely on the durability of this simple formula for success. Our ancestors may have lacked scientific explanations for their practices but our existence is a testimony to their experience, for good or ill. Nothing is more biologically basic or essential than eating; food knowledge and food access being a fundamental human right and not a discretionary privilege. Tampering or altering of the food supply, for any species, is a chemical redirection of adaptive evolution. Ever since "Better Living Through Chemistry" trivialized our delicate biological relationships, we've allowed a priesthood of chemists to minister from the top of the food chain and donate our bodies to science. With a timely "wink" and a "nod" to our penchant for love-of-intoxication, veganism is one more experiment of the scientific infantilists. It may be the last Big Squeeze between mankind of the past and mankind of the future, the vegan ideal being such as to wipe away the perceived Primitive of human origins.
 
In 1957, as nuclear weapons fallout was peaking around the globe, the International Vegetarian Union held its 15th World Vegetarian Congress.  An address to the convention by Daniel P. Hoffman demonstrates a triumph over primitivism thusly, "Not long ago in Life Magazine there was a picture of a docile vegetarian lion who was a favourite household pet; it showed the change in attitude and actions of an animal that has ceased to be flesh-eating..." . The text of Hoffman's speech purports to be an examination of  "a few pertinent facts relating to meat consumption and the reaction on American life which most of us will appreciate is principally caused by unhumane flesh eating", but I leave it to the reader to play spot-the-science in Hoffman's remarks. In his own words, "Great dieticians like Dr. E.V. McCollum and W.C. Sherman, while not advocating an exclusively non-meat diet, have stressed the necessity of making at least half the diet from vegetables and fruits, and have upheld milk and eggs as high quality body-building sources..." [1]. Amusing, it is, to find embedded contradictions within the very words of the nay-sayers, though unfunny to consider that incremental conditioning is prepared in this way.
 
Psychobiologist Robert Cohen, author of www.notmilk.com, is another incremental "conditioneer" who embeds contradictions within his message. In Cohen's case, there is ample evidence from this disingenuous vegan to surmise that notmilk.com is an active psy-op. Citing Gandhi as the "NOTMILKman", in the "Second Opinion" column of the homepage, Cohen writes his concluding line as, "...shortly before he was assassinated, Mahatma Gandhi dined on cooked vegetables, oranges, and goat's milk." Gandhi, the NOTMILKman? Go figure. Cruising around the site provided other splendid examples of hypocrisy such as this: (in the Second Opinion section) under "Goat's Milk", Cohen criticizes the NewYorkTimes for an article by Joseph D'Agnese for writing, "If your body can't tolerate cow milk, goat's milk often makes a suitable alternative." Cohen responds, "Such a statement might very well be considered medical advice, and could result in a deadly prescription for one or more NewYorkTimes readers." Cohen himself seems to have no problem dispensing medical advice: in the right-side alphabet section under "Eggs", Cohen tells an aspiring-to-be-vegan inquirer, "I am primarily concerned with your body and your health....here is the order that I would advise seeing you give up food groups: First--eliminate all milk and dairy, Second--eliminate all poultry and eggs, Third--eliminate all seafood, Fourth--eliminate all pork, Fifth--eliminate all beef ".  According to his own qualifications, Robert Cohen is a NOTdoctor and the "hundreds of surgeries" he has performed were dissections on NOTpatients, but sacrificial lab rats. [2]. Reading the post "Alex Hershaft, animal rights" and imagining that Cohen suddenly grew a conscience about the lab work he loved is as plausible as Gandhi rejecting milk yet drinking it on his last day. Cohen posts NOTnutritionist Mr. Rogers peddling soymilk to kids on TV-- Rogers died from stomach cancer (read the soy hazards from notmilk on the soy-stomach cancer connection in Japan which Cohen diverts to the role of alcoholism and smoking). Lest we forget, the U.S. irradiated the Japanese. Get 'em while they're young, huh fellas? That's the psychobiology way. Robert Cohen's website is a battleground of propaganda. He uses science that both helps and hurts his cause. What's that --"fair and balanced" reporting? He would like you to believe that his forte equips him to "communicate with scientists, understand complicated scientific data, and I can translate scientific experience into concepts easily understood by non-scientists."[2]. Hmm...can someone just explain to him the meaning of "not"? This wouldn't be so irritating if people like Cohen, who use the same old game of fractured reductionist science, weren't trying to get EVERYBODY's goat!
 
Andy Mars, founder of Camp Exploration in California, knows the value of getting them young. He proudly tells of veganized campers going home and demanding  their parents go vegan. Mars himself didn't go vegan until graduating from college, but he specializes in converting children in elementary school with "enrichment programming". Dr. Andy has a PhD in Education and among his activities, Mars organizes Los Angeles  "World Vegan Day", the "Kids World" at L.A."World Fest", and is a founding member of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, www.physicianscam.com/ having a few choice words about the Physicians Committee as a functioning arm of PETA. The actions of vegan promoters look like they're straight out of the Zionist Protocols playbook. Interestingly enough, an article from www.americanvegan.org footnoted below, highlights a vegetarian/vegan school lunch program endorsed by the DoE-- our former Atomic Energy Commission and sponsor of the Human Genome Project. [3]. The DoE deserves a very special section on its role in our national and global health --which it will duly receive!
 
This is not about scientific sounding trumps. It's about changing the biological basis of life and inducing "low-intensity conflict" into human communities. It's about buying time and diverting our attention away from protecting our lands, our food traditions, and our rights, what's left of them. It's about covering-up more than a century of crimes against humanity and nature. And it's not clever-- just persistent, loud, and intentionally confusing. Citing Robert Cohen the researcher again, he says,"It's usually a good idea, when treating one group of animals with a drug or device, to use a control group. Without a control group, one can never know what the effects of that drug would be on the 'untreated' group." [2]. Turning real foods into drugs and nonfoods into foods has been a very long and complicated experiment of controlled groups, namely on the very young and very old. In the face of monumentally contrary evidence, the notmilk minion dares to post, "I met with top scientists at the FDA in Rockville, Maryland, discussing among other things, breastfeeding. It was their collective opinion that breastfeeding offered psychological nurturing benefits, but nothing more...". The article continues in support of breastfeeding based on a four-month study, but why would "top" scientists anywhere come out against the physical value of breastmilk? Might this be construed as medical advice, Robert? ..Robert? The attack on human milk strikes at both young and old in a fell swoop, this being a good place to mention that 2 years of breastfeeding is recommended for a healthy life, and the "6 months" now promoted by the WHO throws another kink into the flow of human development. At the tender age of 6 months babies are forming their ability to trust and rely on the maternal bond for their life-long social outlook.
 
For the millions who never tasted their mother's milk, the squawkbox goes mute. You folks are on your own. You're part of the experiment. But there is lots of help with dozens of well-documented websites on the benefits of fresh raw milk for people facing lifelong gastrointestinal disease, or worse. The www.realmilk.com website introduces readers to the many-faceted benefits of real foods, humane agriculture, and the political trials of people seeking to reclaim their health through natural means.[4]. A bottom line in nutrition is "You are what you assimilate" which can be a severe challenge to adult bottle-babies. The standard veganized inducement to eat high daily levels of  fiber and drink 8 glasses of water could be your ticket to doom --back to the ruse of "human design", actually looking nothing like a toilet. Malabsorption, demineralization, and degeneration await the chronic scrub-n-flushers-- did I mention water contamination? In the U.S., bottled and filtered water prepared for interstate commerce is allowed the highest level of added fluoride approved by federal standards, even in states that forbid fluoride. That said, an additional danger for the intestinally compromised is that fiber and water in quantity can mask a true dysfunction for a long time.
 
"Intestinal agents" are the darlings of bioweapons, witnessed in the development of poliovirus within the scope of this research. Pasteurized milk was rolled in like a Trojan Horse past the gates of our internal defenses disguised as a gift, disarming the public body. Oddly enough Nathan Straus,"the Milk King" had another nickname, "the Horse". This is trouble. Big trouble. 80,000 untested commercial chemicals stream into the river of life as an invisible infantry of marauding microbes. The real "milk of human kindness" is an irreplaceable source of living flora and fauna, our microscopic allies. In our times, maintenance of life and health is redefined under the threat of constant seige from relentless pollution (and misinformation!) calling for a full-time construction crew to rebuild and repair our delicate but amazingly responsive body-temples. Marshal your resources and circle the wagons. War is upon you, arrayed and displayed most aptly in a quote from historian E.L. Doctorow in the preface of physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer's biography, "The great golem we have made against our enemies is our culture..." [5].
 
 
Notes and References
[1]the International Vegetarian Union archive from 1957, www.ivu.org/congress/wvc57/souvenir/hoffman.html
[2]meet Robert Cohen of NotMilk, in this brief sketch of his psychobiology profile, www.living-foods.com/festival/speakers/cohen.html
[3]Andy Mars testimonial and the newsletter of American Vegan, www.americanvegan.org/AV0802.pdf
[4]the "real food" advocates share www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html, Dr. Mercola supports eating raw eggs, www.mercola.com/2002/nov/13/eggs.html and the Primal Diet offers therapeutic use of raw meat, milk, and eggs. www.PrimalDiet.com, plus a wealth of sane and traditional food information from www.westonaprice.org
[5]from the book, "American Prometheus: the Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer" by Kai Bird and Martin Sherwin, 2005, Alfred A. Knopf publisher, New York
 
 
Part III
 
The Talmudic tradition of a "golem" is the magical creation of a pseudo-lifeform that is "souless" and bound to follow the direction of its master. Shelley's Frankenstein was a literary demonstration of one possible golem attaining an autonomy beyond predictable control, breaking free, and returning to ultimately destroy its creator. Not nice to fool mother Nature --lesson taken. Genetically modified Frankenfoods make it impossible to discern between The Foods and The Drugs, or drug-bearing foods, requiring special labels and the oxymoronic infallible regulation of industry to identify and separate. Set upon this path, the entire food chain, us included, is undergoing a sub-visual reconstruction of life's biochemical foundations --the end of the world as we know it. In a quasi-religious sense perhaps, this is desirable and supported in vegan ideation.
 
The unified Eastern counterparts of the Western vegan organizations stem largely from India and Hindu culture. Within these traditions come the "breatharians" who aspire to ascend beyond all animalism and transform their meaty substance into that of Divine Light by eating nothing. Veganism is remedial to these folks presumably, and may be an example in the west of the "Garden of Eden" which implies a certain level of embodiment from dust. In the historical book "League of the Iroquois", it appears that a pervasive belief among early North Americans was that after death the liberated spirits of the People would inhabit a land far to the East where they would dine eternally on ready, sweet fruits. In the misty dawn of "spiritual Man" is where veganism draws its hypothetical history, not to lay claim on a terrestrial dwelling but to recapture a spiritual one. And a spiritual planet is what vegans most claim to want, exposing both weaknesses and strengths in the contradictory positioning of general veganism that uses Moral High Ground for a carnal pulpit. Even in the most extreme teaching of a breatharian believer, Paramahansa Yogananda, the great guru who established the Self-Realization Fellowship in California, enjoined his followers to "drink daily milk", equating it with the experience of personal miracles. [1].
 
Some people would just call veganism another New Age manifestation --precisely the point. The low-intensity conflict potential of this newness is one primarily imposed in scientific circles, but the divisions it engenders are felt among committed self-healers rising to the call of Hippocrates to let "food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food". Representing a People's Science of ad hoc experimenters, the healers fall on both sides of the "animal" divide --or all sides more accurately, vegetarians being the valuable demographic in debate about veganism. Vegans and vegetarians are an idealogical world apart. It's an insidious deception of propaganda to mix these two groups of foodists together. Meta-studies that pool statistics to find large trends rate "vegetarians that eat fish" in the highest categories of health and longevity, even though vegetarians don't eat fish or any flesh. But, that's the way it goes in the time-honored, experience-driven tradition of propaganda where words, phrases, and redactions have a subliminal value beyond their context. Straightforwardly, however, vegans ranked the lowest alongside heavy meat-eaters. [2]. Pressed for the scientific evidence, vegans admittedly come up short (from the more honest ones anyway) which is how this debate ends up becoming about cow farts and footprints.
 
In the real world, chemical agriculture and bacteria-laden produce are causing more environmental and human havoc than livestock. Row-crops, the vast fields of waving grain, are inducing a never-before-seen erosion crisis summarized as "Peak Soil". [3]. To his credit, prize-winning journalism professor and author Michael Pollan profiles a small farm in his book "The Omnivore's Dilemna" that illustrates a practice of restoring a denatured landscape through the wise application of animal-grazing. He also gives an eye-opening review of the hidden "corn" used in processing, from foodstuffs to building materials. Getting the most out of the least is the epitome of the commercial  and military objective. It goes without saying in the western model of industrial economics, that efficiency always wins the day --when governments stay out of it, of course. The Report From Iron Mountain, legitimate or not, is a telling expose on the government model with the incentive to create waste and more waste. Feeding the whole world with a cheap, versatile plant food is the most logical of economic drivers to satisfy both of these large invested parties. Enter the lowly yeast, mycological wonder extraordinaire. The cropping of yeasts has already proven its monetary value as medicine and food (antibiotics, additives of MSG, brewer's yeast, etc.) The Int'l Vegetarian Union conventioneers back in 1957 were regaled with a vision of yeast protein feeding the starving masses. Grown in vats by the likes of Pfizer, Monsanto, and Fleischmann, yeast may be the up-and-comer of all future food. A forecast of the uses of yeasts was demonstrated in the 1930s when food scientists began "fortifying" basic products like milk and bread. "The addition of vitamin D to milk was originally accomplished by irradiating milk or by feeding the cows irradiated yeast."[4]. Currently available books such as "Use of Yeast Biomass in Food Production" suggest this is true, but alarming in the troubles already presented by mutant yeasts that are implicated in prion diseases and cancers as well as more familiar conditions. [5]. Is this the new golem?
 
Food issues of all stripes have been a major military concern in America. The "recommended daily allowance" (RDA) and the later Food Pyramid were outgrowths of the 1941 National Nutrition Conference for Defense under the auspices of the Office of Defense, Health and Welfare. Representatives at the conference, charged with preparing the public for war, were distressed to learn that the department of Selective Service was forced to reject one-third of the young draft-age selectees on grounds of malnutrition and decided that the U.S. government be pressed into action. The imperative of wartime food-rationing, with new-science substitutes and madeover staples, required a sponsored "buyers' guide" to prevent a national nutrition disaster from becoming an even bigger catastrophe. The actual USDA Food Pyramid did not become a curricular enterprise until 1992 when it was adopted as official U.S. authorized policy. If the government was so interested in national health, would it have waited until 1992 to make a statement? Is this curious timing coincidental with the Iraqi Gulf War (new-era perpetual war?) and the incoming Clinton administration? [6]. The Food Pyramid of 92, updated in relative sameness in 2005, was an anachronism prior to its debut and is the subject of endless medical "debate". Low-intensity conflict? The book mentioned in the previous paragraph on yeast biomass was published in 1991 as instructive for industry.[7]. Coincidence? Checking around for a "book-launch" to match government policy always seems to turn up something pertinent. Additionally, the user-friendly updated version (2005) Food Pyramid interpreted by http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Food_Pyramid includes "dairy not essential" and "fats, sweets, and alcoholic beverages as unnecessary". Fats unnecessary?! Yikes!!
 
Supplement dependency is a hallmark of the vegan lifestyle. Author Brenda Davis says "Don't forget the vitamin B12!...There are no reliable plant sources of vitamin B12. Use a supplement or fortified foods...a lack of vitamin B12 can result in muscle wasting, weakness and irreversible nerve and brain damage." [8]. Sounds like polio. An important read on B12 and its relationship to intestinal and bone marrow deficiencies (radiation illness!) is highlighted at www.hhs.gov/asl/testify/2008/02/t20080212a.html. DoE interest in the vegan experiment is emerging into a clearer light. High profile Cold Warriors were big investors in vitamin manufacture. Paul H. Nitze, Sec.of the Navy and Deputy Sec. of Defense, cofounded the U.S. Vitamin and Pharmaceutical Company that made him rich. Nitze was a team leader surveying A-bomb damage at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. There is little wonder in finding tell-all library books like "Natural Causes: Death, Lies, and Politics in America's Vitamin and Herbal Supplement Industry". Statistics from author Dan Hurley reveal a 22 billion-dollar-a-year market in U.S. supplements (2006), mostly manufactured or administrated from Utah and California. This industry is at the apex of loophole exploitation and lobbying finesse, hand-holding its big brother Pharma. A salesjob webpage for B12 suggests the best way to get yours is by injection or transdermal patch. [9]. Pharmers love the patch! It's a great way to get drugs into the very young and very old. Transdermal biotechnology is so promising that someday soon we could all just wear the drugs in our shoes and clothing. Maybe we already do.
 
Plastic food packaging today comes with the pesticides included as an ingredient of the plastic--can't say if this violates "organic" rules or not, but medical grade drug-releasing plastics have been around since at least the 1960s. [10]. PET packaging, polyethylene terephthalate, is another contentious pollutant of processed foods that releases its chemical constituents on contact just because it does. It's in the nature of lipid-like plastics to be classifiable drugs. If your body is lean on lipids for nerve repair it will make the best use of what's available. This new emphasis on becoming casually vegan, beyond the vigilant naturalist types, could be setting these people up. Yup. You're part of the experiment. Physiologically speaking, it could take 5 to 10 years for vegan deficiencies to become problematic. Smart supplementation can stave off those effects for an undetermined extension, but nobody can say empirically how this is going to work out. The lab animals didn't fare well. Oh yeah...getting rid of lab animals, I mean liberating them...well, any volunteers?
 
 
 
Notes and References
[1] ParamahansaYogananda, author of Autobiography of a Yogi, sayings about food and more http://oaks.nvg.org/mas-yogananda.html
[2] meta-studies, listings at www.beyondveg.com and "The Vegan Health Study"
[3] Peak Soil www.energybulletin.net/node/28610
[4] quote from the document www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/DRI/DRI_Guiding_P ... /45-55.pdf, and a romp on making bread yeast from www.breadworld.com/Science.aspx
[5] yeast and prion disease www.mad-cow.org/chaperones.html
[6] the most change-making event of 1991-1992 is given as the Information Revolution www.channelingreality.com/NWO_WTO/1991_ ... hanged.htm
[7] Yeast Biomass in Food Production, buy it from Amazon! www.amazon.com/Use-Yeast-Biomass-Food-P ... 0849358663
[8] Brenda Davis, author of Becoming Vegetarian in 1992 and Becoming Vegan in 2000, quote found at www.vegfamily.com/babies-and-toddlers/w ... ddlers.htm
[9] B12, buy the patch www.b12patch.com/vitaminb12/vitamin-b12-benefits.html
[10] drugs in plastics, early silicone implants by Judah Folkman http://dms.dartmouth.edu/news/2004_h1/p ... lkman.html and developed by virtually all pharmaceutical companies as transdermal deliveries and "micro-gels"

[targa2]

Jenny.  Have you ever seen any research that would correlate  anti hunting/ veganism /marxism as having a common denominator?  Possibly some elite money behind it ?

[Jenny Lake]

Targa2--
I just lost the lengthy reply I wrote to you for some reason...but yes, lots of major money, marxists, and zionists with vegetarians --haven't tracked them behind the Vegans though because I take it for granted that they are there. Vegans are riding on the tail of the vegetarian societies. I'll add more to this later but the first western vegetarians I found were in Britain (The Vegetarian Society) established in 1847 at Ramsgate, home of the Montefiores and timed with the wave of communist revolutions...
--J--

[Jenny Lake]

The Montefiores were funding the agricultural development in Palestine, in part through a man named Moshe Sachs who was setting up the Yishuv in Jerusalem. They were interested in growing fruits (citrus and avocado) and nuts, the same type of development that took hold in California and Florida. In addition to dairy farming, these became great economic farm cooperatives.

Leo Tolstoy was famous for his vegetarian promotion but never could personally support the whole lifestyle paradigm. He influenced thousands of people in Russia to band together as a vegetarian commune, called the Doukhobors, who emigrated to Canada en mass to create "a new social order". I don't know who funded them as a start-up colony, but in keeping with other colonies no doubt they were required to generate their own income and profits. Tolstoy's platform was the ideal of a human diet based on fruit. Here's a quote from www.ivu.org/congress/wc32/bulgakov.html "During the last twenty-three years of his life [Tolstoy] was a vegetarian. Most assuredly, it was the ethical standpoint that influenced him...[Tolstoy said]'one and the same soul is common to all...through abstemiousness and self-denial lies the true road to the perfectionment of the individual...The ideal of nourishment is that this should be obtained only from fruits. As to noisome insects our aim should be so to act as to free ourselves from them without having recourse to killing them, and be rid of them by means of cleanliness'...

There is an early western 'axis' of vegetarianism from the English cities of Manchester and London to the area around Berlin. About 1890, a community called 'Eden' was founded at Orianenburg as a fruit-growing colony that was supposedly a demonstration of economic and land reform. They made money for the settlement processing "Eden Reformbutter" --margarine. During WWI, I think, Orianenburg became an important locale for the future Farben cartel. The residents of Eden were given the first "cinderblock" housing designed by Gustav Lilienthal, and they built a hotel and convalescent home where they developed a cuisine known as "Gesunde Kraft" (God's work).

Some notable Vegetarians:
Miriam Louise Rothschild --zoologist, eccentric
Frederick A. Lindemann --Lord Cherwell, Churchill's science advisor and a physicist
Albert Einstein --convert as an elderly man, died one year later
Dr. Walter Kempner --fled the Nazis, created the "Rice Diet", an institution in Durham, No. Carolina (within a huge medical/research co-op called the "Triangle" encompassing Durham-Raleigh-Chapel Hill and dominated by Big Pharm!)
Nathan Pritikin --former X-ray experimentalist with Bendix Aviation, not a doctor but founded two research establishments in the years before his suicide from severe depression and leukemia

...I didn't go looking for links/funding to anti-hunters, but I like your question targa2!

[evanlong]

@ Jenny Lake:

What's the ideal diet?

[Jenny Lake]

evanlong--
Allowing "ideals" to drive blanket policy IS the problem and how you get lost as an individual. We're all in need of a personalized approach. If you were bottle-fed as an infant, or got dozens of vaccines, or raised next to a SuperFund site, etc.,etc., then your requirements are specialized. What I'm finding in general is that modern nutrition standards and recommendations grossly underestimate protein and fat needed for cell renewal and chelation. Nutrients get "equalized" by reductionist chemistry, synergies are ignored, additives are unaccounted for, and the list goes on....

Looking for your own ideal is something you'll have to experiment with. The best idea is to know where your food came from and how it was raised, and pay close attention to how you're feeling, especially that first hour or so after you eat. How's your sleep?..endurance?.."regularity"?..clarity of thought? Work with those questions and be consistent with your experiment like a scientist. Try smaller amounts more often. Try simpler combinations. Eliminate or add one thing at a time. Get the best quality you can afford and strive to not overcomplicate your body chemistry. Think of everything in your environment as an "inoculation" because you're ingesting what you breathe and apply to the skin.

The long-held common thought among academics about our ancestors from thousands of years ago was that they had very limited diets causing deficiencies. This is proving out untrue. Ancients had very good plant knowledge which they appear to have eaten in medicinal quantities --that is, like "condiments". I'm getting the idea that modern customs have turned this upside-down. I'm including the not-modern (to us) development of grain agriculture as "modern" in this sense. The staples were eggs and meat/fish, adding dairy, and then plants as supplements in variety. Plants are so depleted by and large, organic or not, that Juicing them seems like a good idea. Raw fish eaters, past and present, show up as healthier populations overall. Beware pollution in seafood.

I'm interested in the whole subject, so will be posting on it as time rolls on...

[Anonymous]

evanlong--
Allowing "ideals" to drive blanket policy IS the problem and how you get lost as an individual. We're all in need of a personalized approach. If you were bottle-fed as an infant, or got dozens of vaccines, or raised next to a SuperFund site, etc.,etc., then your requirements are specialized. What I'm finding in general is that modern nutrition standards and recommendations grossly underestimate protein and fat needed for cell renewal and chelation. Nutrients get "equalized" by reductionist chemistry, synergies are ignored, additives are unaccounted for, and the list goes on....

Looking for your own ideal is something you'll have to experiment with. The best idea is to know where your food came from and how it was raised, and pay close attention to how you're feeling, especially that first hour or so after you eat. How's your sleep?..endurance?.."regularity"?..clarity of thought? Work with those questions and be consistent with your experiment like a scientist. Try smaller amounts more often. Try simpler combinations. Eliminate or add one thing at a time. Get the best quality you can afford and strive to not overcomplicate your body chemistry. Think of everything in your environment as an "inoculation" because you're ingesting what you breathe and apply to the skin.

The long-held common thought among academics about our ancestors from thousands of years ago was that they had very limited diets causing deficiencies. This is proving out untrue. Ancients had very good plant knowledge which they appear to have eaten in medicinal quantities --that is, like "condiments". I'm getting the idea that modern customs have turned this upside-down. I'm including the not-modern (to us) development of grain agriculture as "modern" in this sense. The staples were eggs and meat/fish, adding dairy, and then plants as supplements in variety. Plants are so depleted by and large, organic or not, that Juicing them seems like a good idea. Raw fish eaters, past and present, show up as healthier populations overall. Beware pollution in seafood.

I'm interested in the whole subject, so will be posting on it as time rolls on...

What do you mean by Ancients?

Any thoughts on Weston Price

http://www.westonaprice.org/

[Jenny Lake]

John-- It looks like the definition of "ancients" refers to the divide marked by the fall of the Roman Empire --that works. So I'm looking at cultures that carried their knowledge through this period unaffected by Romans, or cultures that are now known to have existed 1500 and many thousands more years ago. Some of the peat-bog bodies found in the UK, which were either accidental deaths or murders, were in amazingly good shape with digestive contents still identifiable.

Weston Price ,imo, did what science should uphold as an ideal --look at real world experience. He had an amazing advantage of timing, when there were enough "traditionals" around to make a valid comparison to traditional versus modern ways of eating, and he followed it up by documenting the results in the next generations who abandoned their regional food-culture for processed commodities. It's in the photographs --smart fella.

[Anonymous]

John-- It looks like the definition of "ancients" refers to the divide marked by the fall of the Roman Empire --that works. So I'm looking at cultures that carried their knowledge through this period unaffected by Romans, or cultures that are now known to have existed 1500 and many thousands more years ago. Some of the peat-bog bodies found in the UK, which were either accidental deaths or murders, were in amazingly good shape with digestive contents still identifiable.

Weston Price ,imo, did what science should uphold as an ideal --look at real world experience. He had an amazing advantage of timing, when there were enough "traditionals" around to make a valid comparison to traditional versus modern ways of eating, and he followed it up by documenting the results in the next generations who abandoned their regional food-culture for processed commodities. It's in the photographs --smart fella.

Hi Jenny

I agree with you  about Weston Price.

When you say Romans are you referring to empire 1, 2 or 3?  I suppose since you are stating 1500 and Many thousands more years ago you are referring to empires 2 and 3. These were invented in the 15th century.

My research indicates that "The Roman Empire" is "the Byzantine Empire" is "the Israelites" is "the Anglo-Saxons"

you will see below some of the strange correlations between the different empires



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[Anonymous]

Jenny I suspect the vegan and vegetarian agenda stems from Agenda 21 and the club of Rome The limits to growth

http://www.greatchange.org/ov-simmons,c ... visted.pdf

http://www.clubofrome.org/docs/limits.rtf

[targa2]

Jenny mentioned something about yeasts in the piece she wrote.  In Kevin Trudeaus book Natural Cures he attributes Candida as having some relational contribution to over half the health disorders.  Of course there are other writers more versed on the subject such as Dr John Trowbridge , who wrote " The Yeast Syndrome "  Funny though, the main stream medical doctors won't give you the time of day on the Candida issue.

[evanlong]

Plants are so depleted by and large, organic or not, that Juicing them seems like a good idea.

I second.

[Free Truth]

Good work, Jenny.

Veganism is just another ism to control the goy. And the isms overlap...
Hardcore vegans are ridiculously depriving themselves (For ethics?! Don't talk to us about ethics?!)...most must be unwell too...

Vegetarians... I do see an argument for at least cutting down the meat with what the finished product you get at the supermarket is...with all the hormones and anti-biotics the animals are probably given. We should all just eat more fruits and veg., don't have to be an all out vegetarian, let alone vegan!

You quickly mentioned soy... Soy is hand in hand with vegetarian and veganism (and is on the ingredients in all kinds of food now).

A thread here, 'Good soy is no soy':
 
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2689&p=14618&hilit=soy#p14618

I recently sent this to a vegetarian fried that believed soy:

...the soybean contains large quantities of natural toxins or "antinutrients". First among them are potent enzyme inhibitors that block the action of trypsin and other enzymes needed for protein digestion. These inhibitors are large, tightly folded proteins that are not completely deactivated during ordinary cooking. They can produce serious gastric distress, reduced protein digestion and chronic deficiencies in amino acid uptake. In test animals, diets high in trypsin inhibitors cause enlargement and pathological conditions of the pancreas, including cancer. Soybeans also contain haemagglutinin, a clot-promoting substance that causes red blood cells to clump together. Trypsin inhibitors and haemagglutinin are growth inhibitors. Approximately 25 per cent of bottle-fed children in the US receive soy-based formula - a much higher percentage than in other parts of the Western world. Fitzpatrick estimated that an infant exclusively fed soy formula receives the estrogenic equivalent (based on body weight) of at least five birth control pills per day. Scientists have known for years that soy-based formula can cause thyroid problems in babies.

AND

Beware of The Toxicity of Soy Products
Hundreds of epidemiological, clinical and laboratory studies link soy to malnutrition, digestive distress, thyroid dysfunction, cognitive decline, reproductive disorders, cognitive, immune system breakdown, and even heart disease and cancer. Contrary to popular belief that soy is a health food, evidence reveals that soy consumption has been linked to numerous disorders, including infertility, increased cancer and infantile leukemia, Type1 diabetes, and precocious puberty in children have been fed soy formula. (early maturation, such as breast development and menstruation as early as 6 years of age). Scientists have known for years that the isoflavones in soy products can depress thyroid function and cause goiters in otherwise healthy children and adults  

http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/

The goy will say, "soy is good for me." (Along with fluoride and much more)
Black and white.

[Jenny Lake]

Great input y'all --the "good soy is no soy" link being one of the best I've seen. The situation with yeasts is a real concern to me since it seems so tailor-made as a globalists solution to everything --food, drugs, chemicals, environmental pollution and remediation, etc. Anyone seen mycologist Paul Stammets speak? --he's a 'Bioneer' offering up fungi as the global solution.

This is one possible consequence of re-naturing yeasts and altering our diets in addition to the more directly grasped harm:
 

Human Gut Flora and Gluten and Casein Intolerance in Autistic Children

Yeasts, including Candida albicans are known to secrete a number of enzymes. These may include phospholipase, which will break down phopholipids and proteases such as secretory aspartate protease which break down proteins. These enzymes may partially digest the gut membranes and lining itself. Furthermore, it is known that the mycelium and chlamydospore are capable of tissue invasion (Nolting et al, 1994). It is likely that such factors could increase the permeability of the gut. This has important consequences in terms of food absorption and digestion. In terms of autism symptoms this may be highly relevant. It has been shown that incompletely broken down portions of gluten and casein may be crossing the gut into the blood and having an opioid effect in autistic children. Their symptoms being a consequence of this opioid action (Reichelt, 1981; Shattock et al, 1990). While many mechanisms have been suggested for this incomplete breakdown, it seems key that a yeast and/or clostridia overgrowth would affect this in some way.v

I moved this quote over from the thread "Throwing Children Into Oncoming Traffic", posted by CrackSmokeRepublican.

Concerning soy, and its beginnings as 'green manure', then expected to be the original biodiesel and subsequently turned into a dairy substitute, one of the benefactors being Arthur Ling who became president of the UK Plant Milk Society
www.plamilfoods.co.uk/arthurling.htm

By the way, World Vegan Day is yearly 11- 01. After looking at the freaky kaballist occult stuff, like Nobodaddy's Occult 9-11/Charles Giuliani post, ya think this is purposeful or are these guys just trying to get the jump on Thanksgiving?

[kolnidre]

Jenny mentioned something about yeasts in the piece she wrote.  In Kevin Trudeaus book Natural Cures he attributes Candida as having some relational contribution to over half the health disorders.  Of course there are other writers more versed on the subject such as Dr John Trowbridge , who wrote " The Yeast Syndrome "  Funny though, the main stream medical doctors won't give you the time of day on the Candida issue.

Based upon my limited research I learned that yeast is permitted to propagate by heavy metals in the system, which kill good bacteria. When yeast is present in large quantity it causes a craving for simple sugar (starches, refined sugar), which is bad enough for the body on its own. But to add insult to injury, what is the by-product of simple sugar digestion? Since the starch essentially ferments, it's alcohol! So in effect, in addition to craving sugar and starch to feed the yeast colonies inside us, we're intoxicating ourselves from the inside-out.

[kolnidre]

Jenny I suspect the vegan and vegetarian agenda stems from Agenda 21 and the club of Rome The limits to growth

http://www.greatchange.org/ov-simmons,c ... visted.pdf

http://www.clubofrome.org/docs/limits.rtf

That's surely part of it. Just look at quotes from the top promoters of Agenda 21 and the "green" movement, and it's clear they'd rather save a microbe than a human life. The interviews with Lierre Keith recently posted to ConCen, show exactly how those earth first types are all radical eugenicists at the core. Although she is no longer a vegetarian (and no wonder, if all you eat is processed soy and fatty nuts, pasta, and seeds), she even said she thought a population of around 300 million is all that is "sustainable" because agriculture to her is evil.

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?"
- Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme


"A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation."
- Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies


"The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can't let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are."
- Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund


"Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control."
- Professor Maurice King


"We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of presently settled land."
- David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!


"Complex technology of any sort is an assault on human dignity. It would be little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy, because of what we might do with it."
- Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute


"The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet."
- Jeremy Rifkin, Greenhouse Crisis Foundation


"Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun."
- Prof Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University


"Our insatiable drive to rummage deep beneath the surface of the earth is a willful expansion
of our dysfunctional civilization into Nature."
- Al Gore, Earth in the Balance


"The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many, doing too well economically and burning too much oil."
– Sir James Lovelock, BBC Interview


"My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it's full complement of species, returning throughout the world."
-Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!


"Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class - involving high meat intake,
use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing - are not sustainable."
- Maurice Strong, Rio Earth Summit


"All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and
behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."
- Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution


"Mankind is the most dangerous, destructive, selfish and unethical animal on the earth."
- Michael Fox, vice-president of The Humane Society


"Humans on the Earth behave in some ways like a pathogenic micro-organism, or like the cells of a tumor."
- Sir James Lovelock, Healing Gaia


"The Earth has cancer and the cancer is Man."
- Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point


"A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells, the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions."
- Prof. Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb


"A reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society at the present North American material standard of living would be 1 billion. At the more frugal European standard of living, 2 to 3 billion would be possible."
- United Nations, Global Biodiversity Assessment


"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
- Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor


"... the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence more than 500 million but less than one billion."
- Club of Rome, Goals for Mankind


"One America burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladeshes. This is a terrible thing to say in order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it."
- Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier


"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels."
- Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, patron of the World Wildlife Fund


"I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems."
- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal


"The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing."
- Christopher Manes, Earth First!


"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."
- David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club


"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill."
- Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution


"We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public's imagination... So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."
- Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports


"Unless we announce disasters no one will listen."
- Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC


"It doesn't matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true."
- Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace


"We've got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy."
- Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation


"No matter if the science of global warming is all phony, climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world."
-Christine Stewart, fmr Canadian Minister of the Environment


"The climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity. It is also our greatest opportunity to lift Global Consciousness to a higher level."
- Al Gore, accepting the Nobel Peace Prize


"The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe."
- emeritus professor Daniel Botkin


"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis."
- David Rockefeller, Club of Rome executive manager


"Humanity is sitting on a time bomb. If the vast majority of the world's scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a major catastrophe that could send out entire planet's climate system into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods, droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have ever experienced - a catastrophe of our own making."
- Al Gore, An Inconvenient Truth


"By the end of this century, climate change will reduce the human population to a few breeding pairs surviving near the Arctic."
- Sir James Lovelock, Revenge of Gaia


"Climate Change will result in a catastrophic, global seal level rise of seven meters. That's bye-bye most of Bangladesh, Netherlands, Florida and would make London the new Atlantis."
- Greenpeace International


"Climate change is real. Not only is it real, it's here, and its effects are giving rise to a frighteningly new global phenomenon - the man-made natural disaster."
- Barack Obama, US Presidential Candidate


"We are close to a time when all of humankind will envision a global agenda that encompasses a kind of Global Marshall Plan to address the causes of poverty and suffering and environmental destruction all over the earth."
- Al Gore, Earth in the Balance


"In Nature organic growth proceeds according to a Master Plan, a Blueprint. Such a 'master plan' is missing from the process of growth and development of the world system. Now is the time to draw up a master plan for sustainable growth and world development based on global allocation of all resources and a new global economic system. Ten or twenty years from today it will probably be too late."
- Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point


"The concept of national sovereignty has been immutable, indeed a sacred principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation."
- UN Commission on Global Governance report


"Democracy is not a panacea. It cannot organize everything and it is unaware of its own limits. These facts must be faced squarely. Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature of many of today's problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time."
- Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution


"In my view, after fifty years of service in the United National system, I perceive the utmost urgency and absolute necessity for proper Earth government. There is no shadow of a doubt that the present political and economic systems are no longer appropriate and will lead to the end of life evolution on this planet. We must therefore absolutely and urgently look for new ways."
- Dr. Robert Muller, UN Assistant Secretary General


"Nations are in effect ceding portions of their sovereignty to the international community and beginning to create a new system of international environmental governance as a means of solving otherwise unmanageable crises."
- Lester Brown, WorldWatch Institute


"A keen and anxious awareness is evolving to suggest that fundamental changes will have to take place in the world order and its power structures, in the distribution of wealth and income."
- Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point


"Adopting a central organizing principle means embarking on an all-out effort to use every policy and program, every law and institution, to halt the destruction of the environment."
- Al Gore, Earth in the Balance


"Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced - a major shift in the priorities of both governments and individuals and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences of every human action be integrated into individual and collective decision-making at every level."
- UN Agenda 21


"The earth is literally our mother, not only because we depend on her for nurture and shelter but even more because the human sepcies has been shaped by her in the womb of evolution. Our salvation depends upon our ability to create a religion of nature."
- Rene Dubos, board member Planetary Citizens

[Free Truth]

Those quotes--being insight into the minds of the owners--are scary!

I was going to quote my favs, the extreme ones, but there's too many...

Absolute contempt for us, the masses (and life itself, really).

[LordLindsey]

I find this to be extremely well-done research and it fits in nicely with what "I" have experienced personally when I tried to be a vegetarian.  There was simply no way that I could sustain a diet so devoid of true protein because the feeling of weakness was simply too great for my body-type.  When I was in Bangkok, I had an English friend who was teaching with me who was a strict vegetarian and he seemed to do well, but he told me that there was absolutely NO WAY that he could ever go to the extreme of being a vegan as the complete lack of any animal-derived nutrition was simply too hard on the human body and system at-large.  

A well-balanced diet works for ANY culture, unless an INDIVIDUAL has a particular reason to not be physically ABLE to eat a certain food for a specific reason having to do with complications from ingestion.  To just get straight to-the-point...BEING A TRUE VEGAN IS JUST ABOUT AS STUPID AS EATING NOTHING BUT MEAT--and the effects are generally disasterous in both instances.   :ugeek:

 :LINDSEY

[evanlong]

I understand speaking against living on processed soy "meats" and so on.  However, I am aware of are extremely long-term vegans who are reportedly in excellent condition.  Take Jay Kordich, for example; Kordich is the guy who did all those infomercials in the '80's and '90's for the juice machines.  He also wrote The Juiceman's Power of Juicing.  His web site is http://www.juicedaddy.com.

Kordich's story, assuming it's true (although I see no good reason to believe it isn't), is that he was going to be a pro football player until he came down with bladder cancer in his late 20's.  He is now in his late 80's and the treatment which rid him of the cancer, he says, was the therapies of Max Gerson and Norman Walker which rely on raw foods and especially juicing.  Kordich advocates a 75% raw and mostly juiced diet, all vegan.  So essentially, he has been living on 15+ pounds of juiced raw fruits and vegetables daily, including large quantities of leafy greens, for the last sixty years and by his reports, he is thriving and still making public appearances.

So that, to me, seems to be evidence that a diet with 0% animal products can be very healthy.  However, this type of veganism goes against the promoting-veganism-for-global-resource-management hypothesis as I'm sure that supplying everyone in the world with 5+ pounds of nutrient-dense, organically grown leafy greens per day plus ten pounds of apples, carrots, celery, pineapples and so on would not be a priority for a world dictatorship.

[LordLindsey]

You can give one (1) example of a man for whom veganism works, and even Ghandi HIMSELF says that he and his followers became PHYSICAL INVALIDS due to the deterioration of their body's systemic functioning because of it; I go for common sense and veganism goes against common sense in all aspects as far as I am concerned.  Look, I EXPERIENCED the ill-effects from even trying to be a vegetarian, and the same goes for the "Atkins Diet."  My body is able to digest meat MUCH better than most people, and the ONLY reason that I didn't develop renal failure after being on less than 20 carbohydrates a day for more than two (2) months is because of my blood type, and this came FROM MY DOCTOR WHO WAS SERIOUSLY ANGRY at my stupidity in order to lose weight.  

Every person's body is designed differently; HOWEVER, human beings are designed to eat BOTH vegetables AND meats.  EOD.

LINDSEY

[kolnidre]

Great post, Evan. Thanks.

There are plenty examples of mostly raw food vegans who have reversed chronic disease and maintained gret health and energy through very long lives. Ann Wigmore is another one that comes to mind. Had she not died in a fire I am certain she would be celebrating her 100th birthday this year and still probably working full time.

You can give one (1) example of a man for whom veganism works

Um, that would be me.

I agree that everyone's body works differently, and I don't have any philosophical problem with eating meat. In fact, although I adhere to a mostly raw vegan diet I keep fishing equipment around and would have guns for protection and hunting in case food disappears from the shelves if guns were legal in this country. When it comes to survival I'm not going to pity a Bambi that gets in my way.

This isn't directed at Lindsey, but I find it laughable that so many people in the modern world get all high and mighty about the dangers of a meat-free diet when they don't take the time to analyse what humans are actually eating. If they did, they'd have to address a whole host of other issues that have removed us from our natural diet before blaming greens. In my view, anyone whose diet consists of industrially produced, processed, packaged, shipped and preserved "foods," that barely resemble what our anscestors ate, doesn't have a leg to stand on when criticising all-natural diets.

I don't have the time or energy to get into a thick and heavy dialogue on this topic at the moment, but I do offer that protein is not the elixer that medical and nutritional science once believed (and still largely do) it was. What the body needs for rebuilding are amino acids, the constituent parts that protein is broken down into. Excess protein in the diet beyond 10-20% has been shown to greatly increase the risk of cancer, especially in the form of animal protein. I bet most people never knew that protein is actually found in perfectly adequate amounts in such fruits and vegetables as cucumbers, romaine lettuce, and brocolli.

I was a vegetarian for 20 years, eating all kinds of processed food, soy, and starch as long as it wasn't meat, and I finally gave up in disgust. I ate meat for the next six years, to slightly better effect, but when I switched to only whole, fresh, natural, unprocessed fruit and vegetables, without reliance on huckster David Wolfe's "superfoods," life became immensely better for me and my performance as an endurance athlete has gone through the roof. Unless the world completely falls apart and Mad Max ensues, I expect to challenge lifetime bests this year in several events, over 25 years since my benchmarks were set.

Again, I agree there is a "vegan agenda" that is part of Gaia worship, but that doesn't mean a plant-based diet free from processed and depleted foods doesn't work great. I'm sure a diet based largely on fresh fruit and veggies that includes meat not pumped up with steroids, hormones, and even cloned animals, and not slaughtered when the animal is at the peak of terror, resulting in high cortisol levels in the blood, would also work great. I find it easier to grow my own veggies than raise my own animals for slaughter, though.

Check this guy's site out.
http://www.runningraw.com

It's not me, but our diets and stories are very similar, except I've been a life-long athlete and he's only started running recently. He actually can't keep the muscle off his body as he keeps putting it on.

[LordLindsey]

Every human body is different, and I know from my personal experiences that this does not work for "ME."  Balance is important in everything, and food is no exception.  I am curious as to how the results espoused by the website are possible because it goes against everything that science tells us about our bodies and nutrition.  I will not allow my body to go through what it went through with my negative experiences with vegetarianism by trying this vegan program, but if it works for YOU, then more power to you.

LINDSEY

[kolnidre]

Every human body is different, and I know from my personal experiences that this does not work for "ME."  Balance is important in everything, and food is no exception.  I am curious as to how the results espoused by the website are possible because it goes against everything that science tells us about our bodies and nutrition.  I will not allow my body to go through what it went through with my negative experiences with vegetarianism by trying this vegan program, but if it works for YOU, then more power to you.

LINDSEY

I would counsel anyone interested in nutrition and health to think twice about how that "science" has been massaged, directed and filtered. We at this site are all certainly aware of the information Eustace Mullins and our own Jenny Lake have presented on the control of modern medicine by the likes of the Flexner brothers and Rockefeller Foundation. Where has the funding come from for scientific research in general since the time of Rocky and his snake oil?

I highly recommend anyone interested in nutritional science to give The China Study a good read. I arrived at my choices on my own volition, but that book's research backs them up. The author, T. Colin Campbell, has been a mainstream nutritional scientist for his entire career and worked on countless studies under the premise that protein was the key to good health and feeding the world. But eventually his findings took him in the opposite direction.

I'm glad your dietary choices are working well for you. If it came down to it, I'd be proud to hunt with you and share a freshly killed meal together.

[Jenny Lake]

from the Better Humans website
http://www.betterhumans.com/forums/thread/21338.aspx
in response to the proposed costs of livestock on climate change

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 Gerda99 wrote 03-20-2009, 6:46 AM
These are dramatic figures: If we do not reduce our meat consumption, it will cost us US$ 20 000 000 000 000 by the year 2050!! That's the conclusion of a study by Elke Stehfest and colleagues of the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency, see http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1 ... could-cu...

$20 trillion or $20000 billion, this is the share of the costs of fighting the consequences of global warming that we could save by reducing meat consumption globally - or pay the price! For a purely plant based diet the savings go up to approx. $32 trillion! With the current economic crisis in mind, we simply cannot afford to ignore this situation. Let's contribute to a change in our diets, away from animal products, away from livestock, let's explore alternatives (vegetarian meat, in-vitro-meat, alternatives to egg-products, ...)!

[Father Brown]

We've found a source for Raw Milk and have been purchasing it for about 5 months. My wife suffers from Rheumitoid Arthritis and that was the reason I wanted her to start drinking it. Now I also realize it is good for the children to get Vitamin D to help with the Flu we are expecting and also I think those real enzymes may help.

So get this. This service, or co-op went down from 10 private locations to 4 and we can no longer use a credit card to purchase our milk. We now have to send a private email and bring cash to pick up our orders. I don't know the entire story, but it sounds like it was reduced in size by the credit card companies no longer allowing payment to this little co-op. Or that they had to decrease in size and scope in order to avoid detection. It was already hard enough, now they have made it harder.

I can't help but think that now that the government owns, or supports many of these banks, that they have cracked down on these activities in one way or the other. Didn't the goverment recently introduce legislation concerning organic gardening and farming? Very suspicious.

I do believe that anyone's credit card is still good for purchasing on-line porn, or sometimes even a prostitute. But not Raw Milk.

[Free Truth]

Codex Alimentarius is on the way, my friend.

If it came down to it, I'd be proud to hunt with you and share a freshly killed meal together.

LOL
Count me in too.
But maybe just fresh fish...

[§N9sh2bj]

We've found a source for Raw Milk and have been purchasing it for about 5 months. ...

So get this. This service, or co-op went down from 10 private locations to 4 and we can no longer use a credit card to purchase our milk. We now have to send a private email and bring cash to pick up our orders. I don't know the entire story, but it sounds like it was reduced in size by the credit card companies no longer allowing payment to this little co-op. ....

... that they have cracked down on these activities in one way or the other.

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First, thanks for your work, Jenny.

Father John:      Look up the crackdown on Manna Storehouse. Some vids on youtube also. All-out raid on a local buying club/coop run out of a family home. Wonder if that's related brainiac (it's the avatar)?

My family also, through a local, private coop -  more a kind of buying club, how most coops start - got to know about a local farmer who delivered fresh milk in 20 liter standard dairy containers with a minimum order. I guess those days of a few quarts on the doorstop are long gone? At first I was really suspicious that people were drinking raw milk. As it happens now, I believe raw milk is safer - anything which inoculates the milk will grow rapidly, and the most common types of whatever gets in the milk, turn it sour or into curds.

We are careful to clean all of our equipment. And evacuating all the air is important!  We get the 20 liter container now every so many weeks, and using boiling water to clean tubes and such, siphon off the milk into these water-carrying bladders you can get at outdoor shops. The advantage is these shrink as the milk is let out, and it is easy to keep air from going in. It seems like it's the O2 in the air which causes the milk to rapidly sour. At nearly 0 degrees centigrade, raw milk stays fresh in the fridge for about 12 days. My pregnant wife had it all throughout her pregnancy, and my young child drinks it daily.

A lot of this depends upon what kind of conditions or treatment the cow gets. I would absolutely never get raw milk from an industrial cow. Without much time to consider, I could only compare industrial cow milk to drinking from the sewer line instead of spring water. I met with a certain younger man, with a long family history of being dairy rancher-types in the states. He stayed on a dairy farm property - in a house next to his parents and grandparents. He was candid with me, and said some things which I won't repeat - the summary is the milk is *not* safe to drink from UDA or other such commercial dairy sources in the states. Get your milk privately, from a real living man who is the farmer, otherwise it is simply undrinkable sewage.

I believe raw milk sources from healthy cows, cannot have any contamination - unlike pasturized milk where more during the pre-pasturization period, the milk handling can be sloppy. The farmer must be much more careful to make sure the raw milk does not come into contact with anything which could start it on the process of turning into cheese or something else. It's like a petri dish in a lab: add anything to it, and it grows. This is a good indication for the health-giving benefits of drinking it.

[Jenny Lake]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleash ... vegan.html
PETA's asking Vatican City to go vegan.

[§N9sh2bj]

and the ONLY reason that I didn't develop renal failure after being on less than 20 carbohydrates a day for more than two (2) months is because of my blood type,

The result of such high protein intake to be aware of is loss of calcium. If sustained it can have very bad results.

I've seen the x-ray-photos and talked with the man himself: he had hunted deer on his property and eaten a slab of it on a daily basis. Now, he takes over 500 millgrams of morphine (a day, a week, can't remember). Anyway the number is so high no one could handle it without years of acclimation. He sleeps three days a week. The whole day, he just sleeps. Other than the days he sleeps he can handle mild chores. This was a guy who was very strong and able for years.

The x-ray reveals no bone mass of the spine; it's as transparent as soft-tissue. Only the faintest of outlines allows one to determine the location of the vertebrae.

My summary is rothschild (et al) want to hijack a movement they can't get rid of (like environmental concern), and hitch people onto such stuff as GMO-soybeans unfermented, having disastrous results on the health. I recently read canola did not exist until the 70's; rape-seed-oil is naturally poisonous and even as 'canola', once heated it transfers poisons to the food; it may require more research although it jives. Then there is hydrogenated oils in place of butter.

The hijacking of vegetarian/vegan diets choices headed clear away-from the 'kosher-slaughter (TM) meat'-program, which has the highest levels of fear and pain, is an another effort to control. A young adolescent or child not knowing any better, may not find the natural 'golden path' as easily when it's crowded with false choices such as 'soyburgers' and 'soymilk' and the like. Going back in time, soy-products did not widely exist in such circles; vegetarian and vegan nurishment paths are at least as old as the stories of jesus - one of the elements of pre-christianity edited out of the new testament (this from several sources). As moses originally had the law as 'thou shall not kill', it was twisted into 'thou shall not commit murder', essentially by the same group of false scribes (again...) - jews.

[Jenny Lake]

SN9-- this sounds like leukemic or bone cancer that I've heard of. hmm. I know someone who experienced spinal metastasis and it was just exactly like this by your description of the x-rays. I don't yet know much about cancers -- learning about the genetics -- and how fallout and chemicals concentrate. Something I intend to undertake is the breeding process of 'knock-out' types to learn how calcium deficit is actually programmed genetically.
But, you're so right about the relative nonexistence of special health foods before the 1960s. Now we have a new generation of "micro plant powders" --nano additive silica and more --very alarming to me as I get further into the physics of organic chemistry and how these artificial platforms set up. I'm wondering if the form of the silica in this case can replace calcium deposition, raise the free calcium excretion, etc. This should also have a very significant impact on brain function.