Being Savage # 52 - Arab Sources for the 13th Tribe

[Anonymous]

Here are the sources used by Dunlop and Others
Although the two main sources of the Khazar Chagan's conversion to Judaism are Ibn Fadhlan and Ibn Rostah, the following list are listed by Dunlap, Bury, and Koestler.

As I have already demonstrated that the sources for Ibn Fadhlan and Ibn Rostah are not original sources but copies of their work by others in a later period of time.
for Fadhlan was discovered in 1923 and dated to 13th century and Ibn Rostah is dated to 15th century. Of coarse you may feel free to research it and prove it for yourself. You will notice that all these guys writing about the Khazars act as if these sources are the original writings of these supposed authors. It seems misleading and dubious not to mention that the original sources are actually third party hearsay written in a much later period of time if we are to accept the dating of these documents.  

Istakhri
Ibn - A Tham
Ibn - Al - Athir
Ibn - al - faqih
Ibn Hajar
Ibn - Hawqal
Ibn - Isfandiyar
Ibn - Khaldun
Ibn - Khurdadhbih
Ibn - Qutaybah
Ibn - Sa'd
Masudi
Bakri
Gurdizi
Ibn Haukal

[Anonymous]

Istakhri

http://www.geocities.com/pieterderideaux/istakhri.html

Full name: Ibrahim Ibn Muhammad al Istakhri
He was a contemporary of Ibn Hawqal, they actually met in India and not only have their books  the same name, they also use many times the same phrases.

al-Istakhri's world map, Arabic, 977/1570 A.D.*
oriented with South at the top

http://www.henry-davis.com/MAPS/EMwebpages/211.html

http://www.henry-davis.com/MAPS/EMwebpages/211mono.html

Al-lstakhri was virtually unknown apart from his one work. He does not appear in any of the standard Arab biographies, and all we know about him personally was his meeting with Ibn Hawqal

In the Balkhi-Istakhri-Ibn Hawqal set of writings, there are four distinct recensions of what is basically one set of maps. For these this monograph shall follow Kramers's example and call the four types Istakhri I, Istakhri II, Ibn Hawqal I, and Ibn Hawqal III. The manuscripts of Ibn Hawqal III, though all undated, are much later than the other texts, probably from the late 13th or early 14th century A.D. The regional maps are nevertheless copies of the earlier versions. The world map of Ibn Hawqal III, however, is so different from the other world maps that it warrants special consideration.

http://www.henry-davis.com/MAPS/EMwebpages/211A.html

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/a ... wgdugcu769

Lot 26 : AL-ISTAKHRI, Abu-Ishak al Faresi (known as). Liber Climatum...codicis Gothani..curavit J.H. Moeller. Gotha: libraria Beckeriana, 1839.

Description:

4o (256 x 195mm). Letterpress title in arabic, coloured lithographic maps on 18 leaves, 2 folding, pp.1-126 of arabic text printed in black/brown and red, pp.127-132 letterpress addenda, 1p. index, 23pp.text; 2pp. 'Benevolo Lectori'; title in Latin. Original boards (lightly stained and scuffed at extremities). A very rare lithographic facsimile of the Al-Istakhri manuscript in the Forschungs bibliothek, Gotha, dated 569 (1173), the earliest surviving manuscript of Al-Istakhri's famous Atlas of Islam. Al-Istakhri's work forms one of the Balkhi School of geographers, but of his work and life little is known. His maps of the Islamic world soon became popular and several later versions in Persian have survived. With the absolute rarity of all manuscript Islamic maps, facsimiles such as this have become the surviving relics of a fascinating period of cartography. Despite the relatively early date, this lithographic work by J.I.Uckermann, is of the highest quality with the page numbering in roman the only obvious variation from the manuscript original. Graesse III, 438; Lexikon z. Geschichte der Dartographie I, 341 (giving date as 1849).

[Anonymous]

[Picture of the Earth] of Abu al-Qasim Muhammad ibn Hawqal [Haukal] in the manuscript dated 1086, found in the Topkapi Sarayi Müzesi Kütüphanesi in Istanbul.

http://www.henry-davis.com/MAPS/EMwebpages/213mono.html

The Topkapı Palace (Turkish: Topkapı Sarayı)

Topkapi Sarayi Müzesi Kütüphanesi translates into Topkapi Palace Museum Library

Initial construction started in 1459, ordered by Sultan Mehmed II, the conqueror of Byzantine Constantinople.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categ ... ace_Museum

[Anonymous]

Map of the Persian Gulf from a 8-9th century AH (14-15th century AD) Persian translation by al-Istakhri at the Central Library, Tehran University.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry!!!

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... n_Gulf.jpg

[Anonymous]

It's a limited view, but some of the info it contains is valuable

Cartography in the Traditional Islamic and South Asian Societies

like the following