jim willie "thousands dead in mexico from swine flu"

[Large Sarge]

I get his newsletter, I will not post the entire thing.

but I do think this little snippet deserves some attention, jim willie has an excellent track record & his sources are outstanding!


◄$$$ CONDITIONS IN MEXICO CITY ARE WORSE THAN REPORTED $$$. A very reliable source on banking and gold trade matters, with associations across the globe on commercial matters, contacted me early in May. He prefaced his remarks by saying the source of his information was a person in the medical field whom he has known for almost 20 years, of high integrity. The man spent a week in Mexico City gathering information about the hospitals, official response, and the disease spread. He has been in touch with many people directly, and has made his own personal observations. As best as can be transcribed from the conversation and my notes, here are his main comments from May 2nd:

"Mexico City has 26 inhabitants across the entire metropolitan area. No cellphones work in the entire city. People are hiding in their homes. The social fabric is breaking. A total of 10 to 20 thousand cases of Swine Flu have been realized, with actual numbers difficult from lack of verification except for symptoms observed. In all to date, several thousand are dead from the virus, not the mere 8 cited by the Mexican Govt. One case is an Obama secret service guard. There are 50 thousand restaurants in Metro Mexico City, which do $200 million in business volume per day. They are ALL closed. Numerous major prisons are located in the Metro Mexico City area. They are the site of violent riots right now, with fires and numerous deaths. They have been denied food & water for one full week, and are now surrounded by military soldiers. Chaos has broken out in the prisons."

◄$$$ THIS SWINE FLU HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SWINE $$$. Some technical information on Influenza Swine Genetics is cited below, with medical and biological professionals offering dissent to counter the official information given to the public. Their account supports indirectly the viewpoint that this Swine Flu was created in a laboratory. See the following article from the New York Times entitled "Virus's Tangled Genes Straddle Continents, Raising a Mystery About Its Origins" for much more information (CLICK HERE). An excerpt is provided, with quotes within the segment underlined:

"The flu that is moving through humans appears to have a combination of genes from two normally separate sets of pigs, those from the Americas and from Eurasia, scientists say. However, it is unknown how those pigs met, and there is not yet any genetic proof that this particular flu was ever in a pig... The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced last week that the new virus had pieces of North American swine, bird, and human flus and of Eurasian swine flu. Although rumors questioning that are circulating on the Internet, most geneticists believe it is correct. It is essentially a blend of Eurasian swine flu and North American swine flu, but Western hemisphere strains have had an avian segment on the PB2 gene for at least 10 years and a human component on the PB1 gene since 1993, said Henry L Niman, a biochemist who tracks flu mutations. 'The original report is correct,' Dr Niman said of the CDC's analysis. The rumors, he added in an e-mail message, stem from 'someone who really doesn't know how to analyze sequences (or is being misquoted.)' It presumably is in pigs somewhere, perhaps in Mexico. The 1918 human H1N1 established itself in pigs by 1930. But, as Dr Niman pointed out, it could be only in humans now, or even in a ferret. The next question, said Dr Robert G Webster, a virologist at St Jude Children's Research Hospital, is: "How did this virus get in? Is Mexico importing swine from Europe?" While movement of live pigs between Canada, the United States, and Mexico for fattening and slaughter is routine, legal movement of pigs across oceans is rare. Pigs carry many diseases, so importation requires expensive tests and quarantines. The only reason to bother would be for breeding, not meat."

[Jenny Lake]

The 1918 human H1N1 established itself in pigs by 1930. But, as Dr Niman pointed out, it could be only in humans now, or even in a ferret. The next question, said Dr Robert G Webster, a virologist at St Jude Children's Research Hospital, is: "How did this virus get in? Is Mexico importing swine from Europe?" While movement of live pigs between Canada, the United States, and Mexico for fattening and slaughter is routine, legal movement of pigs across oceans is rare. Pigs carry many diseases, so importation requires expensive tests and quarantines. The only reason to bother would be for breeding, not meat."

Smithfield founded itself on special European swine breeds from a UK Royal breeding program, and all bred for meat. Can you think of other reasons for breeding swine? This is alot of nonsense. Livestock breeding programs have been mixing genes for a long time. Ferrets are the influenza test animal of choice because they are ultrasensitive to human flu --it usually kills them, so they made very good subjects for vaccine study, done now for decades also. The Mexican hog farm where this is said to have begun vaccinated the animals there in addition to massive pesticide fumigation of the site before the outbreak --perhaps as much as 2 months before. That alone is a prime set-up for novel infection.

[Travis]

Could these be scenes from Mexico city?





Mexico city hospital?

[Jenny Lake]

...lest we undervalue the investment in progress, the CDC ranks high on the "opportunities to watch for" list with stock-mavens.

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The Deadliest Fall

By Larry Baum

An introduction to influenza was published in the previous issue.

A bout of the flu can be mild. In young, healthy adults, many infections pass unnoticed. But sometimes the influenza virus evolves into a strain that decimates its victims. The worst known strain swept the world in the Fall of 1918, infecting 500-1000 million and killing 40-100 million, about 2-5% of people.

There are several theories about where the pandemic began, but the likeliest origin was in Haskell County, Kansas, in the United States. People in the sparsely populated county, where farmers raised pigs, poultry, cattle, and grain, began suffering from influenza in late January 1918. Unusually for flu, it was young, healthy adults who were hardest hit. Victims fell ill suddenly, many progressing to pneumonia and dying, often within days. Within weeks, however, the epidemic ended. The natural geographic isolation of this community normally might have contained the fatal flu in a sort of unintentional quarantine, but the First World War intervened. Men were uprooted from their home towns and congregated in huge numbers in army camps for training and then shipping out to other camps or to fight in Europe. The destination for men from Haskell County was Camp Funston, part of Fort Riley, Kansas, where the first influenza case was reported in early March. As soldiers moved among camps, the virus spread. Within two months, the epidemic spread to most of the army camps and most of the largest cities in the United States. As American soldiers went to France, so did the virus, spreading first from the port of Brest.

The flu then spread worldwide. The pandemic reached its height in the Fall of 1918. Spain was affected early, and because Spain was not fighting in the World War, there was no wartime censorship, and news of the outbreak became widely known, leading to the flu being called the Spanish Flu in many countries. In Spain, however, it was called French Flu or the Naples Soldier. In India, about 12 million people died of flu. In some US cities, people died so quickly that morticians couldn't cope with the bodies. According to Jessie Lee Brown Foveaux, who worked in the Fort Riley laundry during the epidemic: "They were piling them up in a warehouse until they could get coffins for them."

The disease started with cough, then headache. Temperature, breathing and heart rate increased rapidly. In the worst cases, pneumonia came next, the lungs filling with liquid, drowning the patients and turning them blue from lack of air. Patients bled from every orifice: mouths, noses, ears, eyes. Those who survived often suffered temporary or permanent brain damage. Several million developed encephalitis lethargica, in which victims were trapped in a permanent sleeplike and rigid state, as portrayed in the 1990 movie "Awakenings." In others, normal thought processes were impaired. During negotiations to end World War I, US President Woodrow Wilson was struck with flu, and people around him noted that his mental abilities never fully recovered. The French leader George Clemenceau had wanted harsher punishment of Germany than Wilson had desired. Clemenceau may have convinced Wilson in his weakened state to accept such harsh terms, which may have been one of the factors causing World War II.
 

[Jenny Lake]

LS --isn't Jim Willie feeding the Mad Maxian chaos we're supposed to be heading for? Like the years of lubricating spin to make a connection to 1918 flu (as in the post above), this message from Willie is reinforcing that association and his own view of social breakdown. Boy, these guys are trying hard!!

From my own city newspaper, the San Diego Union-Tribune, over the last few days updating the flu-- on Thurs. May 21, reporting the U.S. national death toll from swine flu at 10, the latest victim a 21 year old man who died at a Salt Lake City, Utah hospital.

As a Border city with Mexico, and home to thousands of Mexican nationals traveling to all points south, if any of this was true, how could it be suppressed? There's just too much local awareness and interest, with routine travel going on among regular people.

[LatinAmericanview]

Could these be scenes from Mexico city?





Mexico city hospital?

Travis it is actually much worst then that in Latin America. Reports are coming out suggesting that the Mexicans are eating the dead!

[Large Sarge]

I tend to trust Jim Willie, he has been way out in front on a lot of things in the past.

regarding this swine flu issue.

I had a conversation on this with another friend early into this, and my point was "what if the govt is downplaying the seriousness of this flu"

"like they made the phoney 9/11 into something big, and this thing is serious, but they make it appear less dangerous"

I am not sure, there are a lot of variables involved, but Jim Willie gets really good info, good enough to get personally threatened by the mossad... and to give up all public speaking engagements.

jim willie is an MIT graduate, guy is a real genius.

I do not agree with his "take the vaccine later" concept, to me all vaccines are junk, but he has some good contacts, and can really string together analysis and events, paint a real picture.


Henry Niman paints a pretty grim picture for this flu as well, you need to listen to this one twice.

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/spe ... 052109.mp3


please note when he says "in 1918 a number of people starved to death, because no one healthy would come close enough to bring them food"

he touches on the shift in psychology of the mob/crowds...

very good interview

Regarding Jim willie, I do not think he would lie, he said it came from a good source..

then add in all the dead microbiologists, etc

I give him the benefit of the doubt, but even Jim willie can be fed some dis-info

have to wait and see.

I will tell you this, they classify a mild case of swine flu as "not requiring a ventilator to keep you alive"

that does not sound real mild to me...

and I agree this stuff came out of a lab, not off some pig farm...

they have had years and tons of money to make it as nasty and contagious as possible...

[LatinAmericanview]

I tend to trust Jim Willie, he has been way out in front on a lot of things in the past.

regarding this swine flu issue.

I had a conversation on this with another friend early into this, and my point was "what if the govt is downplaying the seriousness of this flu"

"like they made the phoney 9/11 into something big, and this thing is serious, but they make it appear less dangerous"

I am not sure, there are a lot of variables involved, but Jim Willie gets really good info, good enough to get personally threatened by the mossad... and to give up all public speaking engagements.

jim willie is an MIT graduate, guy is a real genius.

I do not agree with his "take the vaccine later" concept, to me all vaccines are junk, but he has some good contacts, and can really string together analysis and events, paint a real picture.


Henry Niman paints a pretty grim picture for this flu as well, you need to listen to this one twice.

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/spe ... 052109.mp3


please note when he says "in 1918 a number of people starved to death, because no one healthy would come close enough to bring them food"

he touches on the shift in psychology of the mob/crowds...

very good interview

Regarding Jim willie, I do not think he would lie, he said it came from a good source..

then add in all the dead microbiologists, etc

I give him the benefit of the doubt, but even Jim willie can be fed some dis-info

have to wait and see.

I will tell you this, they classify a mild case of swine flu as "not requiring a ventilator to keep you alive"

that does not sound real mild to me...

and I agree this stuff came out of a lab, not off some pig farm...

they have had years and tons of money to make it as nasty and contagious as possible...

I have no opinion on Jim Willie. All information is very difficult to verify and quite frankly very few of us could do the biological testing required to verify that the "alleged" flu victims were in fact victims of the swine flu and not some other cause. In that respect we all at the mercy of the information channels that are available to us. What I tend to focus on is the way the information disseminated among the general population. Who many news stories are carried in various large News Hubs. What is the placement of the various stories in relation to other stories.  I have dozens of way of measuring what I term propagandist value. The swine Flu story is set up for another stage in the on going "killer virus" global threat scenario. With the advent of the internet you don't really have to have real events. Actually a great example is the Orson Wells "War of The Worlds" experiment. People thought it was real and a panic ensued. People died.  Most recently the Y2K scenario or the Military intelligence  inspired Peak OIL story. Remember with Terror it is not the action but the reaction that matters.

[Large Sarge]

Jim Willie said his source went "on the ground" and spoke to all the medical folks he could find.


I can speculate none of us have done that.

scoured a city of 20 million...

Jim Willie is not ignorant, and I do not feel he is an agent.

boots on the ground say a different story.

and all those dead microbiologists...

[Travis]

Travis it is actually much worst then that in Latin America. Reports are coming out suggesting that the Mexicans are eating the dead!

Is that just how it is irrelevant of a swine flu outbreak?
You want to what things are like here in London, below is a picture of London's Mayor Boris Johnson,

[LatinAmericanview]

I had to update this to be fair to Jim Willie. Here in Managua, Nicaragua the government has made protective respiratory mask wearing mandatory in public places. With only one confirmed case of Swine Flu the Sandinista government has mandated certain health measures. People using public transportation are forced to wear the protective garment. Additionally, public transportation has limited the number of riders that can be transported on public buses.

[Large Sarge]

Manitoba has major outbreak

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/06100 ... tical.html


Commentary

Critical Swine H1N1 Cases In Canada Raise Pandemic Concerns
Recombinomics Commentary 00:25
June 10, 2009


Currently, there are 26 people - 23 adults and three children - in intensive care units of Manitoba hospitals, using ventilators to aid their strained breathing from flu-related reasons.

It is expected many of them will be confirmed as cases of swine flu, or the H1N1 influenza A virus, Manitoba's chief medical officer of health, Dr. Joel Kettner, said at a press conference Monday afternoon.

Another 25 children are in hospitals with respiratory illnesses and are being tested for swine flu, according to health officials.

Typically, at this time of year, there are very few - if any - cases of severe flu, said Kettner.

The above comments describe the deteriorating situation in Manitoba. Yesterday, 15 more ventilators were requested as the number of serious swine flu victims grows,  Media reports indicate hundreds more are sick with mild illness and large numbers of confirmed cases have also been announced in adjacent Nunavut (see updated map).  Patients on ventilators are typically in critical condition, raising concerns of a significant increase in the swine fu death toll in Canada.

The sudden jump in serious cases raises concerns that as the virus spreads and cases grow, other communities around the world may face similar episodes.

The serious cases have increase pressure on WHO to raise the pandemic phase level to 6, signaling the worldwide spread of the virus.  Although many countries outside of North America are attempting to limit spread through border checks, the virus has already spread worldwide and community spread is largely undetected because resources and testing is concentrated at airports.  

As countries focus attention on community spread, the number of confirmed cases will rise dramatically, increasing pandemic concerns.

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[rmstock]

How about malnutrition and tampered water .... ehh untampered water in
Mexico? That's like liquid gold. This should be enough to describe the
situation.

Pictures from stagnightofthedead.com are only cheap amusement. Today
you might laugh from behind your Internet PC, but these types in
control, who are NOT human, which is what I would like to emphasize
here, have no problems to start this game in Western Europe and
America, when the time has come.

Robert
--
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  mailto:stock@stokkie.net">stock@stokkie.net

[LordLindsey]

I agree, Robert, and I have and I WILL CONTINUE to stand on what I know in my heart to be true:  This is a recombination of the virus extracted from the miners in Alaska some years ago to create THIS--the beginning of something that will become nightmarish once the vaccine program commences.  People who want to laugh at this are not understanding OR remembering that we are dealing with psycho/sociopaths who have lose whatever humanity that they MAY have once had and KNEW that, by creating this new and improved version of the 1918 organism, a level of death and misery would be unleashed upon this planet unlike anything seen since The Black Death.  

We can ALL feel that everything in our lives and the events that we see are literally SURREAL at this point, with both the media and governments of the world fiddling while everything that people have spent, worked, and built for generations is crumbling around humanity--ACROSS THE WORLD.  I am not being pessimistic; I am being REALISTIC.  How dare you people laugh, make jokes, and put-up movie clips of "zombies" while possibly thousands of people have been MURDERED and children lay dying on ventilators as this viral nightmare begins; will you fucking be laughing after THE COMPULSARY VACCINATION PROGRAMS BEGIN?  I am really angry now as what Robert has really struck a nerve with me because he is RIGHT.  Jim Willie is NO fool, nor is he a liar; if he said that THOUSANDS are dead in Mexico in just a couple of weeks or so from this FIRST STAGE of the new-and-improved lab-created 1918 organism, then maybe you will wish that more people took this seriously once you, your families, and everyone else you know is literally forced to take the vaccine after a sustained "Level 6" is reached according to the CDC and WHO.  I can only wonder what the repurcussions will be if you DO NOT take the vaccine that is forced upon you, ESPECIALLY in France as this has been admitted to be what will happen--FORCED VACCINATION PROGRAM FOR THE ENTIRE NATION.

Those of you who take what these maniacs are doing seriously, this rant is not directed at you.  Those of you who continue to think that this WILL become nothing at all, you have forgotten everything that you have spent your lives learning about the madness of these people and that HUMANITY IS NOTHING TO THEM, especially at this point.  The Zionists and their bretheren separate themselves from humanity, and I am truly left shocked at how gullible so many people have become when it related to THE BEGINNING of this new viral nightmare--ONCE THE VACCINATION PROGRAMS ARE INITIATED, we will see what they really have planned.  I have said this from DAY ONE, and I will continue to stand-by this.

Thank you, Robert, for spitting in the eyes of those who use cheap humor to make themselves feel better while children are on machines to MAKE them breathe because they can't on their own.

You people should be ashamed of yourselves.

LINDSEY

[LatinAmericanview]

Bravo bravo!!! This years award for the most melodramatic Drama Queen award goes to LordLindsay! Best Support Soap Box performance goes RMSTOCK. Firstly the question is is Jim Willie a legitimate news source? Granted there are so many bad fountains of information out there but question remains is Mr. Jim Willie credible? LargeSarge vouches for him but forgive my skepticism  that is not enough for me. Apparently Jim Willie has a degree from MIT. I remind the careful reader that Noam Chomsky has one also. So the next thing I did was call a few of Homeboys and Vatos in Mexicali to ask them about things on the street! My Boys and crazy Vatos knew nothing about the PIG Flu. Apparently  "little Jose" had the sniffles but that was about it. It turns out that my Vatos Locos don't spend countless hours surfing the net looking for the latest conspiracy information. The Vatos are out there doing Vato Loco things. I asked some non-Vatos and they seemed sure that there was a Flu thing but it was more or less under control. They however did not have internet access 24/7 so thy were not reactionary as say LordLindsay. My friends being good Roman Catholics basically said it was all god plan and he would handle it all. So why worry? Needless to say none of these answers satisfy. So I went and asked a few doctor  and they told me that there new safety protocols being implemented to reduce the spread of the Flu. I asked them if they had seen or heard of any cases personally and they said no. I asked them if they could verify the one case reported in Nicaragua? They said that they received a written communication informing them of the case. However there was no way to do a first hand verification. In other words, all we have is the experts from the CDC and the W.H.O. disseminating the details pertaining to this emerging pandemic. Shit! We all so have the Jim Willies of the world gives updates from far way lands. Shit again! We also have the LordLindsays of the worlds telling us that

I have and I WILL CONTINUE to stand on what I know in my heart to be true: This is a recombination of the virus extracted from the miners in Alaska some years ago to create THIS--the beginning of something that will become nightmarish once the vaccine program commences.

So here is the bottom line. Compare notes with people in different countries. Slowly you will begin to see the nature of things. The people that are mostly likely to scream the sky is falling are people that are addicted to information.  Propaganda has a coercive effect on critical thinking skills. Unfortunately, all the news sources are propaganda and internet is full people that just parrot what they heard.

[Large Sarge]

let me add a few variables to the equation.

1. we are very early into this, so to decide "its a small brush fire" is premature IMO

2. Manitoba has had to request 15 ventilators from different provinces.... Hmmm. Manitoba Canada is not third world.

3. the deaths will really start when the hospital/infrastructure is overwhelmed, if you are one of the lucky one that gets a ventilator, you might make it, or you might not get a ventilator.

this is the first wave, and you can see that Manitoba is overwhelmed.

its not about the first wave guys, never will be.

this thing has such a high infection rate (estimates of 50%+), the 1918 flu only had a 30% infection rate

so of the 50% infected, if .01% are really really ill (need ventilators), well in the U.S. that could be 150 million * 0.01 = 1.5 million

during the 1918 flu, 1-3% of the infected died

so my estimates are very very conservative


not enough ventilators on wave 1, wait till the fall....for wave 2 and 3

[§N9sh2bj]

did you go to the hospitals and confirm this? or are you reading it from a (rothschild) AP news-feed? Those are as twisted as any old snake and not worth my time.

[Large Sarge]

(CANADIAN GOVT RELEASE)


http://news.gov.mb.ca/news/index.html?a ... &item=6046



Most cases have been mild, and the spread of the virus has been largely silent.  However, deaths are beginning to mount with five announced today (PA, OK, QB, OR, CA), in addition to three on Friday (TX, WA, NY), six on Thursday (AZ, PA, UT, IL, CA, WI) and seven on Wednesday (3 NY, MI, CT,VA).

[LordLindsey]

You can talk all the shit that you want, but I am not the one who, in a "fog" of mind, deleted every single one of my audios and ran away to stay in Nicaragua.  Stick to what you know and don't try to insult people who can go toe-to-toe with you if that is what you REALLY want.  Not all of us like to stay in a "fog of smoke," if you know what I mean...

LINDSEY

NB:  Since this is the literal "First wave," or beginning of the orchestrated re-emergence of something much worse than the 1918 strain, all of you had better decide right now what you are going to do regarding the vaccination programs that have already been planned and WILL BE implemented.  People like Latin may be right on many things, but can't see that this bag of tricks also contains something that most people would never believe possible:  A viral contigency that will ensure total chaos and break-down of society once it goes into full force and the panic that inevitably will follow.

[LatinAmericanview]

You can talk all the shit that you want, but I am not the one who in a fog of mind deleted every single one of my audios and ran away to stay in Nicaragua.  Stick to what you know and don't try to insult people who can go toe-to-toe with you if that is what you REALLY want.  Not all of us like to stay in a "fog of smoke," if you know what I mean...

LINDSEY

Know I don't know what you mean Jelly Bean. I lived in Nicaragua long before I started making audio files. I work for a non-profit. However, the reason I deleted the audio files is because I did not want them to be used to push an agenda that I disagree with. For example, Prothink has used my voice to push his Missing Links Video. I do not agree with him in the least. The really point is can you verify your opinions?

For example:

This is a recombination of the virus extracted from the miners in Alaska some years ago

LordLinsay

Do you have a sources? Where did you get this information?

[LordLindsey]

Jesus Christ, and I am NOT joking, Latin...you know absolutely NOTHING about this, do you?  I am being serious as I say this because I actually pity you in your abject ignorance on this most important issue.  I will not hold your hand through this, but I will give you this to begin your search for what MOST of us at TIU already know...

http://www.sitnews.us/1005news/102805/1 ... ience.html



Forty-six years later, Hultin read an article in the journal Science written by Jeffery Taubenberger, a molecular pathologist who was looking for samples of the flu virus to supplement tiny samples saved from two young soldiers in 1918.

Using $3,200 from his savings account, Hultin at age 72 traveled back to Brevig Mission in 1997. There, with the help of four Native boys, he once again opened the mass grave. He removed the preserved lungs of a woman who had died from the flu, and shipped them to Taubenberger's lab in Washington, D.C.

Using the samples, in 2005 Taubenberger and his colleagues reconstructed the 1918 virus and revealed that it originated in birds and mutated to infect people. Virologists have called it the largest breakthrough in years, a discovery that could save many lives. Hultin remains humble about his role.

October 28, 2005
Friday


The recent revival of the virus responsible for the 1918 Spanish flu, the killer of millions of people, was the end of a long journey for retired Pathologist Johan Hultin. Hultin, 81, twice retrieved samples of the virus from the lungs of flu victims preserved by permafrost in an Alaska village. Molecular pathologists used the latter of those samples to reconstruct the virus and discover that it jumped from birds to humans, which led to concerns about the current bird flu in Asia.

LINDSEY

NB:  Things have only gotten much, much worse as the virus has grown in virulence as its recombination has increased in efficiency.  I honestly to God can not believe that you are not aware of the facts, Latin, since Noel has spoken about this many times and it is very well-known the facts surrounding this entire episode of virological evil being wrought upon humanity.

[LatinAmericanview]

Thank you for bringing me up to speed. Lets agree to disagree. Cheers

[Large Sarge]

I think we should all be cautious with this, the stories from 1918 tell awful tales, of people dead within hours of symptoms

when you look at the level of contagion (very high), potential infrastucture overload, the forced vaccines, travel restrictions, and ??

I will add one thing, the bird flu loose in Egypt (H5??) is reporting a 18-30% kill rate, now admittedly Egypt really is a third world $hithole (next to the zionist tumor)


but if these viruses were able to join/mutate (by accident or design)

but when the 1918 started, it started exactly like this, weak first wave, no one paid much attention, then by the fall/winter it was devastating

so I am in the "wait and see", I think it is very serious myself.

the story of them dumping the vials of the virus on that train in switzerland (think it was switzerland?, somewhere in Europe for sure)

anyway, it tells me that even if wave 1 does not really catch fire, they are not going to stop, and this event is not natural...

so just because the guy shooting misses you the first time, does not mean he is out of bullets, or done for the night...


LL is correct in his analysis, these people are cold blooded psycho/sociopaths.


I remember a year or so back DBS was screaming on a show "I am running around like my hair is on fire trying to warn people what is coming"

A lot of folks laughed at DBS, I did not...

DBS knew enough zionist history, to understand what is coming down the road.... and he was rightly terrified....

if we were determined enough, I guess we could find the shippping and tracking numbers for the ventilators, I imagine they were sent overnight delivery...

that would verify the story

[LordLindsey]

All right; I apologize for being so rude, but this is very serious for me as there are too many facts that are very troubling for this to be nothing.  If you can see the progression of this biological weapon in its many incarnations as the progress was being tracked, you would be as angry as I am because all of us can feel that things are very wrong, but we don't know exactly what is being planned against humanity; however, THIS is a pretty God damned good clue as to what is being planned to create complete chaos because the vaccination programs are ALREADY ADMITTED TO BE IN PLACE AND MANDATORY.  

Latin, you are not a bad guy, but you just don't know as much as some of us about the history of this viral program, nor what a full-fledged pandemic will mean to the stability of an already completely un-stable world if they get away with this forced innoculation program.  It is looking more and more like all of the stops are being pulled because people ARE waking-up and realizing what is happening, but not enough to do anything to stop it in the NEAR future...that's the POINT--the Zionists can NOT let tens of millions more people learn the truth because THEN they may be stopped at any point in time, and this viral program that is in its beginning wave scares me because the people, in their fear, will take the vaccines that will ensure an even worse repeat of what happened in that period of 1917-1920.

LINDSEY

[LatinAmericanview]

All right; I apologize for being so rude, but this is very serious for me as there are too many facts that are very troubling for this to be nothing.  If you can see the progression of this biological weapon in its many incarnations as the progress was being tracked, you would be as angry as I am because all of us can feel that things are very wrong, but we don't know exactly what is being planned against humanity; however, THIS is a pretty God damned good clue as to what is being planned to create complete chaos because the vaccination programs are ALREADY ADMITTED TO BE IN PLACE AND MANDATORY.  

Latin, you are not a bad guy, but you just don't know as much as some of us about the history of this viral program, nor what a full-fledged pandemic will mean to the stability of an already completely un-stable world if they get away with this forced innoculation program.  It is looking more and more like all of the stops are being pulled because people ARE waking-up and realizing what is happening, but not enough to do anything to stop it in the NEAR future...that's the POINT--the Zionists can NOT let tens of millions more people learn the truth because THEN they may be stopped at any point in time, and this viral program that is in its beginning wave scares me because the people, in their fear, will take the vaccines that will ensure an even worse repeat of what happened in that period of 1917-1920.

LINDSEY

Dear Lindsey,
My point is a little different then yours. I think we can agree what might be the intended end game- Mass inoculations, Quarantine Camps and rendering sites. However, you and I disagree on one major point. THE POINT IS THAT GIVEN THE STATE OF PROPAGANDA TODAY NOTHING HAS TO BE REAL. IF THE MEDIA AND INTELLIGENCE APPARATCHIK CRANK UP AN AFRICANIZED BEE THREAT THEN EVERYBODY WOULD PURCHASING PROTECTIVE GARMENTS. IF THEY DECIDED TO CREATE A ALIEN INVASION THREAT THEN EVERYONE WOULD BE WEARING TIN FOIL HATS.  The point is that reality is all in your head. You may recall the Orson "Wells War Of The Worlds" reading that incited a panic in New Jersey in 1936? Well's reading actually cause some people to commit suicide. Threat was not real but they believed and died. I don't know if the Pig Flu is real but I know that the reaction of behalf of most people will be real and with it comes a whole host of terrible consequences. Additionally with the advent of the Internet propaganda goes viral at light speed. In the end I see what  you see but I am not sure it has real causes or it was an intelligence fabricated panic.

[LordLindsey]

You know, you are absolutely RIGHT about Daryl; I remember one show in particular where he said just that, Sarge, and he was raising Hell because the whole fucking economy was long gone and the stupid goyim had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHATSOEVER what had been done to them...and why.  My God, I remember listening, and now reflecting, on those ALL-IMPORTANT shows with Raffeq from 2007 as things were entering the point of NO return, and then passing that point.  There was real panic in Daryl's demeanor because Rafeeq and he knew exactly WHAT was going to happen, but not exactly WHEN, and he knew in his heart that very few people listening would do anything at all to stop it or even help themselves and their families.  Can you imagine how that feels, trying to tell people what you can see to be happening to them in the VERY near future, and all that they do is laugh at you and just listen as entertainment?  

Sarge, I HATE to fight with people who I know in my heart are on the same side as we are, and that is why I apologize if I know that I am hasty in my heated retort; however, we have reached a point in time where we simply can not ignore the evidence as it is any longer and we MUST prepare for the worst possible scenarios because if we are wrong...OK, but if we are right about the things that we say, we will not have the luxury this time around of being like Daryl and saying, "I told you so!!  Now don't you wish that you would have listened to me two (2) years ago!?"  These people have shown that they mean to use every means possible to cause absolute chaos, and when those MICRO-BIOLOGISTS WERE BEING MURDERED, God damned it, people, that should have been your cue to keep an eye on ANYTHING that would have tied the murders to a pandemic-level catastrophe or false-flag assault using bio-weapons.

We are in their End-game scenario now, folks, whether you want to hear this truth or not.  You can say whatever you want, but it will not change that fact as it stands.  America has a man as the head puppet who is NOT an eligible leader, hence his REAL name is Soetoro, a "former" Indonesian citizen, the ENTIRE economy is completely destroyed...yet we have "green stalks" sprouting-up everywhere  :roll:  :x , we have MILLIONS maimed and dead over a conflict of lies where the people responsible are STILL not in any fear of being brought to justice, our money across the world has been stolen and given to the same people responsible for all of this and there is no REAL outrage from the people openly, and on and on and on and fucking on.  I have NEVER, EVER in my life seen such a complete fucking disaster of "Biblical" proportions as I am seeing RIGHT NOW, as it is not simply DOZENS of problems that we face, but THOUSANDS at this point.  I know exactly how you feel, Daryl, because I, too, am tired of screaming into the wind of the hot air that spews forth from the people who have no idea about which they speak, and I am referring to the people who still believe in the left-right paradigm, NOT anyone here at TIU.  

Look, guys and gals, this "flu" thing is a real wake-up call for all of us because we are seeing first-hand a nightmare being put-into motion, and we truly ARE powerless to stop it at this point; I understand that.  But that does not mean to just accept it and wait for the next few months to pass until its TRUE potential is seen and our loved ones are sick because they were afraid and took the vaccine.  We do what we can do, and telling EVERYONE we can the TRUTH about this and many other issues is the only thing that we can do because folks, I am afraid to say that we are out of time.  I can feel it, and many others who will remain nameless here can feel it; I am just man enough to ADMIT it, but NOT GIVE-UP.  Find out the truth, TELL IT, and prepare for whatever you THINK may happen; I have never felt this sense of fore-boding as I do now, folks, and that scares me more than anything else because everyone else with whom I have spoken feels that things have reached a point where there is nothing but un-certainty, and this is coming from "average Americans" who know Jack-shit about what is really happening.

LINDSEY

[LatinAmericanview]

they were afraid and took the vaccine.

I think the threat is the vaccine itself. I know lots of people like Dr. Carly but Peter Kawaja outed her as an agent. My point is that Kawaja suggested that any major vaccine would at like a catalyst for existing dormant infections. I feel that people are being steered to taking something that will ultimately be the root of their illness. Anyway food for thought. Nobodaddy had a lot of research on this topic.

[LordLindsey]

Actually, Latin, I WOULD agree with you if it were not for the history of this viral program, my friend.  THAT is what separates this from the other things that "I" said were bullshit, like the bird flu; I KNEW in my heart that it was nothing because it just didn't have timing and virulence AND forced innoculation programs being set-up across the world as THIS does.  I didn't agree with Daryl about the bird flu because it didn't "feel" like THIS feels for me, and while that may not be much for anyone else, it means everything to me.  I KNOW that virii were always going to be used by the Zionists in one way or another for something very big and I have been waiting for them to do something big because they got rid of the micro-biologists who either were involved in the program or would have become a problem as their plans become much more obvious as things progress.  

There are many things that separate this from other events in the recent past, and the innoculation programs was what sealed it for me, if you really want to know what made me feel in my heart that this was the real deal about which to worry.

LINDSEY

NB:  Folks, I want you to understand that if you go back and research what happened after the bodies were recovered from Alaska and the viral program created the most virulent virus ever created--based upon the 1918 flu; their EXCUSE for the creation of this virus was to create a vaccine in case something like this ever came into nature, and THAT WAS REPORTED IN THE USA TODAY SEVERAL YEARS AGO.  The scientists created the DEADLIEST virus EVER from the 1918 strain, and, I REPEAT, the excuse was to create "a vaccine in case this ever occurred in nature."  I KNEW at that point that we were fucked eventually, and ever since then I have been waiting for when they would unleash this nightmare across the planet...well, I guess that we don't have to wonder any longer, do we?  NOW...follow the lead and research the "curiosities" that have occurred since the creation of this virus and you will understand why I feel that way that I do.  Again, you have to have seen what I have seen to understand that was is in the beginning stage right now was openly bragged-about in the newspapers four (4) years ago or so...actually it may be closer to five (5) years ago now.

[LordLindsey]

Latin, I have been saying that the VACCINE IS THE REAL VIRUS ever since things first began; THAT is why they are hyping this because once the vaccination programs begin, then people will be presented with THE REAL DEAL and then God help us all.

NOW do you understand me a little bit better?

LINDSEY

[LatinAmericanview]

Latin, I have been saying that the VACCINE IS THE REAL VIRUS ever since things first began; THAT is why they are hyping this because once the vaccination programs begin, then people will be presented with THE REAL DEAL and then God help us all.

NOW do you understand me a little bit better?

LINDSEY

I suspect that is true but I have no proof of it. I see your point. But why not say they are using propaganda to pedal a problem solution vaccine that will surely be the death of you?