There is more here than meets the 'Eye'

[GodSend]

Hi!

911 is a very special and very important piece of The Puzzle. However, there are MANY more (and a few more important) pieces of The Puzzle. You can SEE! all the very important pieces of The Puzzle on my Blog http://www.sol-godsend.blogspot.com or on my website: http://www.novalight.org

Regarding ZIONISM, remember what Joseph Biden said: "You don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist". Non-'Jewish' Zionists are called "Auslege Goy" They are "window dressing", appointed by 'Jewish' Zionists (Israeli Zionists) to conceal their true colors from the sheeple.

Judaism and Zionism are NOT the same!

Be prepared for "Shock & Awe"

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Welcome

[Ognir]

"Neturei Karta" if you look on youtube,  they seem to support the talmud as well

Welcome

[GodSend]

Neturei Karta primarily advertise themselves as 'True Torah' Jews, rather than Talmudic Jews (as far as I know). I did see one of their (protest) signs read 'Talmud' as well, so I'm not sure what distinction, if any, they make. I think all of us here know that Talmudic 'Jews' are just about as bad (Racist, AntiChrist, Reptilian, etc.) as Zionists. I would lump Talmudic 'Jews' in with Zionist (Slimeballs) rather than 'True Torah' Jews. In any case, all pro-Zionist Israel ("New Khazaria") 'Jews' and Goyim are BAD NEWS for America and Humanity.

[Ognir]

What makes you think that "Neturei Karta " haven't been infiltrated?

Seems fairly obvious to me or the chsen jews have their own "Neturei Karta " mixed in the mix

[memory hole]

welcome to the board Godsend, enjoy your stay)

gonna check ya blog out....

[GodSend]

Ognir

I never heard of a Neturei Karta Jew who supports Zionism or the State of Israel ("New Khazaria"). In fact, they once carried a sign around in their protests against Israel which said: ZIONISM IS NAZISM. (see my Blog for the photo). My sentiments, precisely! The fact that Judaism is a dead (and AntiChrist) religion is another issue, altogether (SEE! my website for an explanation).

THEY (who LIVE!) in "New Khazaria" are America's and Humanity's ENEMY #1!

According to Biblical Prophecy, real Jews will lead a spiritual movement to Christ (Truth) within Jewry in the End Times (NOW!). Many former Jews have already traveled that road to Damascus (Paul and several other apostles). Only a remnant of Jews will SEE! the Light at the end of the tunnel which Humanity has now entered.

[gurdgieff]

Hi!
Judaism and Zionism are NOT the same!

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yes they are.

[thirdeyewise]

"Neturei Karta" if you look on youtube, they seem to support the talmud as well



exactly, i don't trust any of them, they play their own opposition!

[thirdeyewise]

I'm confused There is so much contridictary information floating around that it is starting to make me mad. Here is an enemy that is Proven to be ruthless and considers me no better than an insect but i have to watch my manners as to not offend the wrong Jew. The jews admit themselves that In Modern judaism the main focus is the talmud. The same talmud that says all gentiles are animals to be used for whatever

It was Jews not zionist Jesus called "children of the devil"
It was Jews not zionist Cicero called "rascals and deceivers"
It was Jews not zionist Cicero called "a dark and repulsive force"
It was Jews not zionist Seneca called "a criminal nation"
It was Jews not zionist Schopenhauer called "The Great Master of Lies"
It was Jews not zionist Voltaire called "ignorant and barbaric"
It was Jews not zionist Voltaire called "the most hateful and shameful nation."
It was Jews not zionist Napoleon called "the vilest nation"  
It was Jews not zionist Napoleon called "The carrion birds of humanity"
It was Jews not zionist George Washington called "societies greatest enemies"
It was Jews not zionist Nesta Webster called "a rebellious element in every state"
It was Jews not zionist Martin Luther called "the Devil's children & a satanic breed"
It was jews not zionist Samuel Roth called "the most deadly persecutors of man "
It was Jews not zionist who were thrown out of 80 countries, 109 times

Hardly a major Jewish community has not been expelled by its Host Country. Only to be let back in again, later to be expelled once more." (Jewish Almanac 1981, p. 127)


"We Jews, we are the destroyers" - Maurice Samuels
"Wars are the Jews harvest " - Chief Rabbi Reichorn
"We Jews regard our race as superior" - Goldwin Smith, Professor
"We Jews, who have posed as Saviors of the World" - Oscar Levy
"Jews are ontologically exceptional" - Professional Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel      
"Jewish soul stems from holiness." --Lubavitcher Rabbi Mendel Schneerson


not one person has ever said, "we zionist "


Benjamin Freedman didn't stop being a zionist, he stopped being a Jew.

Brother Nathaniel kapner didn't stopped being a zionist, he stopped being a Jew.As a matter Of fact he was never a zionist, yet he is very familiar with Jewish treachery.

[anarchore]

Thirdeye, you ever consider the Zionists are just the Pharisees renamed?  We should avoid the use of the word "Jew", as it leads to logical retardation!
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[thirdeyewise]

see the problem with the word zionism is that it only came into existence in 1897, and the problems affecting mankind have been around way before then.
so yeah , i do have a problem only saying zionist, when it is obvious that talmudic judaism is the problem and that by definition modern judaism is based on the talmud. so yeah, lets stick to the jews and not the zionist!!

[thirdeyewise]

by the way, according to many sources when it is all said and done only the jews will be spared from the evil that awaits us, so where does your "only zionist"
excuse fit in:

http://www.biblestudysite.com/tyranny.htm    

and like i said before, people like benjamin freedman and myron fagan did not stop being zionist, they stopped being Jews, but i'm sure you will have an excuse
for that also, like always

[thirdeyewise]

"We should avoid the use of the word "Jew", as it leads to logical retardation!"



why should i avoid using a word that they themselves use, as a matter of facts most of those statement were from jews themselves using that very word!!

[anarchore]

"We should avoid the use of the word "Jew", as it leads to logical retardation!"

why should i avoid using a word that they themselves use, as a matter of facts most of those statement were from jews themselves using that very word!!

I just told you - it leads to logical retardation, makes you look like a bigot to most people(for good reason), tends to make people rely on reflex instead of fact, and gives the ZIONIST power configuration through groups like the ADL a free ride... why use imprecise terms, when we have specific ones?

The problem is the Zionists and it always has been.  They have just changed the names.

"by the way, according to many sources when it is all said and done only the jews will be spared from the evil that awaits us, so where does your "only zionist"
excuse fit in:

http://www.biblestudysite.com/tyranny.htm

and like i said before, people like benjamin freedman and myron fagan did not stop being zionist, they stopped being Jews, but i'm sure you will have an excuse
for that also, like always"

Freedman said Judaism was dominated by Pharisaism.

When you run around going JEWJEWJEW, what kind of response do you get from the average person?

Why do you want to give the ADL a free strawman argument to use against real anti-Zionists?

[thirdeyewise]

i get your point.

[Yo Mama]

...and gives the ZIONIST power configuration through groups like the ADL a free ride... why use imprecise terms, when we have specific ones?

You should stop using the term "Zionist", because whenever the average person hears this term, they automatically associate it with idiotic conspiracy theories.  So when you use this term, you just end up making all of us look bad and discrediting the whole "movement".   :roll:

[thirdeyewise]

wow, so we can't call them Jews, we can't call them zionist........i give up, what do we call them?

[GordZilla]

wow, so we can't call them Jews, we can't call them zionist........i give up, what do we call them?

Talmudic Jews, that's what to call them.

[thirdeyewise]

"Talmudic Jews"?!,......... somehow i don't see people swallowing that any better the Jews or Zionist

[Yo Mama]

wow, so we can't call them Jews, we can't call them zionist........i give up, what do we call them?

Call them vague, nondescript terms like "Globalists", "the Elite", "New World Order", "Luciferians", etc.

That way you won't offend anybody and everybody will be happy, because you won't be singling out any particular group.  This is the best tactic to use.  By employing this clever strategy, we will propel ourselves to victory over these Evil Racist White Nazis.

 

[thirdeyewise]

all i know is, i personally won't be worried about offending anyone, period!

[thirdeyewise]

jews, zionist, whatever,.... never want to address any of the valid facts presented to them, to me,  that makes them complicit.
while the zoharist/sabbateans may be the propelling force, Judaism as a whole is the glue that binds it all together!



"There is not a single Ghanaian who is not excited by your visit," he enthused. "The good Lord has heard our prayers, and you have come." ........Amen!!!!

[Yo Mama]

all i know is, i personally won't be worried about offending anyone, period!

No, we don't want to offend anyone.  That way we will be able to maximize our business revenue from advertizing and merchandise sales.

 

[anarchore]

jews, zionist, whatever,.... never want to address any of the valid facts presented to them, to me,  that makes them complicit.
while the zoharist/sabbateans may be the propelling force, Judaism as a whole is the glue that binds it all together!

That's pretty good, it explains how ostensibly good people can get sucked into the vortex.

But when people of J-w and gentile persuasion get sucked into the Rothschild's gravitational pull, then the J-ws that follow their pharisaic edicts, as we witness manifested in the ADL, the neocons, and the Bush administration; the Shabbat Goyim class as described by Eustace Mullins ( http://www.scribd.com/doc/13590623/Biological-Jew-eustace-mullins )also must include these secular, atheist Zionist J-ws.

If Benjamin Freedman can be trusted, he said that Judaism has been dominated by Pharisaism for centuries.

Likewise the Christian Zionists.

In a world where various groups of people are servicing a world empire that uses various ethnic group antagonisms to keep themselves in the shadows, it doesn't make sense to say "it's the Jews", or "it's the Zionists".

Those that say "it's the Jews", think they have the bigger picture, but they don't.  They are right about one thing though; that Zionism is not the only pernicious movement to come out of the J-wish hierarchy.  

Those that say "it's the Zionists", are closer but Zionism is merely one of the means through which Rothschild and banker power has carved up the world.  

Those that say "it's the Pharisees/illuminati/whatever", are closest to the truth, but arguably crazy-sounding - still better than evoking everyone's deeply embedded mental triggers of sympathy by calling out "the Jews".

[thirdeyewise]

"If Benjamin Freedman can be trusted, he said that Judaism has been dominated by Pharisaism for centuries."


it's not whether he can be trusted, it's the total sum of evidence against judaism. other sources have re-verified, the exact same viewpoint, over and over.



The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia (1943) lists under "Pharisees":
"The Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent without a break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent...The Talmud is the largest and most important single
member of that literature..."

 

Henceforth Jewish life was regulated by the teachings of the Pharisees; the whole history of Judaism was reconstructed from the Pharisaic point of view, and a new aspect was given to the Sanhedrin of the past. A new chain of tradition supplanted the older, priestly tradition, Pharisaism shaped the character of Judaism and the life and thought of the Jew for all the future..." (Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 665 - 666)



"...Judaism...Pharisiasm became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes in name...the spirit of the ancient Pharisees survives, unaltered...ancient Pharisaism has wandered..."    The Pharisees, Foreword, Vol. 1
-Rabbi Louis Finkelstein, the head of The Jewish Theological Seminary of America      


"The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud" – Michael Rodkinson, in the preface of Babylonian Talmud, page XI


"The Talmud has been the banner which has served as a rallying sign to the Jews,
dispersed in diverse countries; it has maintained the unity of Judaism." (Graetz, History of the Jews).


"The Talmud: Heart's Blood of the Jewish Faith..." (November 11, 1959, New York
Herald Tribune, based on The Talmud, by Herman Wouk).

[thirdeyewise]

and as far as i'm concerned Christian Zionist, while also complicit, can be considered victims. the Jews orchestrated the infiltration of christianity and
should be held responsible for the mis-guided christian zionist, there leadership (christian, ie:hagee) is a whole different story, they know what they are doing.

[GordZilla]

"Talmudic Jews"?!,......... somehow i don't see people swallowing that any better the Jews or Zionist

Who cares? It is the most descriptive and accurate thing to call our enemy, as any and every Talmudic jew is our enemy.  No matter what WE call THEM , WE will still be called Nazi's , anti-Semites etc etc., so call them what they are;  Talmudic Jews. They are not Zionists, as this is older than Zionism, they are not Jews as not all Jews are involved (apparently) SO call them EXACTLY what they are!

If they can't 'swallow it', and that is your concern, prepare to be disappointed no matter what you call them, except for maybe 'pretty little pink bunnies that never hurt anyone'.  They are what they are, you fear how people might take that label ?!??!?

We are beyond the softening it down part here at this forum. This is not the place for fresh off the mill goyim. Those people have to start at the bottom; Alex Jones & c, and work their way up to us. By the time they get to this forum, are they not ready for the truth? Or do they want even more marketing?

[thirdeyewise]

you said:"We are beyond the softening it down part here at this forum. This is not the place for fresh off the mill goyim. "


that is obviously not the case, as it is quite apparent there is alot of disagreement in this forum as to the proper protocol concerning the jews....so please!

[GordZilla]

you said:"We are beyond the softening it down part here at this forum. This is not the place for fresh off the mill goyim. "


that is obviously not the case, as it is quite apparent there is alot of disagreement in this forum as to the proper protocol concerning the jews....so please!

Yeah its the case, we don't blame it on phantoms here, we already blame Zionists (mostly) ... for the novice truther this is already a very scary leap, Which is why people that are newly into this are NOT here. The people that come here, mostly, have already run the gamut of Alex and Co, till finally (again; mostly) come to this site and really see the whole truth. That's  is what I meant when I stated that. I'll assume  everything else I stated you concur with then, or you have yet to comment on the rest of my post?

Never –the-less;

 Read what I said. Was I saying there's not a lot of disagreement concerning the proper protocol concerning the Jews?? What? No I was not.  If anything a forum with this kind of disagreement taking place is CERTAINLY NOT for the neophyte to this grand conspiracy, now is it? This site is a step up- to say the least. You have to first introduce them to so many other facts before you can get them to participate in an intelligent debate on the evil nature of Zionism. You have to start small; the Fed, the medias bias, 9/11 and other false flags (which, you'll notice, we don't spend too much time on here at TiU -anymore)  So I have no idea what you we're going off about there, but it actually helps illustrate my point, so thank you.

On second thought perhaps it was the 'softening it down' part you disagree with, if so then again -see above. To the newbie, there's no way we can have this conversation and 'soften it down'. No matter what we eventually agree to call them in return -most assuredly- we will be labeled Nazi's and anti-Semites just the same. That is the vain of my point; we are beyond trying to 'soften it down' here, we cannot, because to the outside world – the sleepers- we are what they will label us, and all the evils associated with those villainous buzz words are implanted in their minds when they think of our message. So softening it up is pointless, at least here, as this is the place for people who are ready for cold hard facts, with no bull sh*t – no marketing and no sugar coating, not for people new to it-it's simpley too much and too soon for them(see above-start small). You can hardly find a formal introduction to the grand conspiracy on this site.  (We know who, what, where, when  and why.  We're now all about the finer details, name taking etc.)  So having this debate is good (about what we should term them) let's take the next step, but let's also be accurate about it.

-   A rose by any other name.