Holocaust Museum shooter James Von Brunn's ex-wife says his

[Free Truth]

Whoa! Over 8,700 articles on this!?

If this whole incident did actually go down as reported, oh how I wish he would have gone after a member of the Zionist mafia (almost any politician, anybody selling out populations, anybody that has links to crimes like 9/11, billionaires and/or any big bankers) that really deserve it.
...one of the big names.

What would shooting anybody in that building accomplish?! -esp. a security guard... i don't know if he has much of one, but does anybody think his extended family could be sitting well ($) for some time because of this? Who knows...

I do not advocate mindless violence. Though I damn sure advocate hastening the deserved justice and punishment the real criminals in the world have coming to them.

[LatinAmericanview]

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[LatinAmericanview]

Shootings show threat of 'lone wolf' terrorists
The Associated Press - ‎36 minutes ago‎
WASHINGTON (AP) - An elderly man enters a crowded museum carrying a rifle and begins shooting. A young man in Arkansas pulls outside a military recruiting office.
Video: Museum to Reopen After Tribute to Fallen Officer The Associated Press
'Act of cowardice' says museum shooter James von Brunn's son New York Daily News
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[AntiPharisee]

Item #4:  A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE by Eli James:
 
Was von Brunn set up?  
 
Dear friends,
 
The holocaust shooting incident was very likely set up this way.
 
Mossad kidnapped the old man Von Brunn from his house, brought him in a backroom of the museum, and when the time was right, the mossad either killed him in the room and dragged out his body, or they quickly tossed him out in the museum and shot him, and then shot the unbriefed security guard, whil the other security guard, injured by glass, avoided a bullt since he was an agent of theirs as well, AND they needed a WITNESS.
 
The story is that the old man went after the guards is nonsense, a senseless act of violence on a non Jew security guard, who was most probably not the target, because if Von Brunn was after the Jews, he would have targeted the closest Jew around him and not waste his time with a guard. The mossad had chose the guard as the victim because he was the one that witnessed the set up, and Mossad needed a victim. Now, an 88 year old man bootlegging/fastwalking a gun in and quick triggering it is a fantasy that would probably fly in a Dirty Harry part 70 movie, but not in reality.
 
Yet, nobody saw the incident, but everybody heard it, and the Jews way out where made the story colorful. Nobody saw it. That means that mossad waited for the right opportunity, waited for the entrance and hallways to be cleared, then mossad executed the set up, either killing him in the back room or tossing him out in the musuem and shooting him there. Where is the videotape of this incident? Someone doesn't want to roll back the tape, because there was ANOTHER incident on that tape, MUCH different than what the witnesses and media portrays.
 
The media story doesn't add up. This old man Van Brunn was spied on and set up. An 88 year old man in a maximum security facility is not capable of blazing glory. What does this cause? Hate Bills, intrenet censorship, and Obama's pet project: race war that leads to Martial Law. NOW, here is the low down filthy shocker: the Jews tried as hard as possible to connect Von Brunn's "actions" to the USS Liberty Anniversary, in order to make it look like he was inspired by "internet talk radio/internet" to do the crime. The Jews and government will begin to bring up this issue in the coming days, and censorship of internet, and crackdowns and imprisonments of patriots and veterans will most probably follow. That is the object of Mossad's plan in that incident.
 
By the Way, the Black Panthers and La Raza murder whites and each other everyday. Do we hear it on tv? No. Like usual, it is Satan's plan of elminating True Israel, the white people, not the Beasts of the Field. Same old same old age old story, but nobody understands it, because they are brainwashed into being ashamed and afraid of understanding the facts and admitting the truth in them.
 
However, the Jews turned on the spotlight. One half of society will notice that the Jews have put the spotlight on themselves, for #1 their story of the incident doesn't add up and #2 Von Brunn was frustrated for a reason, and the reason broadcasted was his unhappyness with the Jewish Federal Reserve and their plan of destroying the economy. Von Brunn's will stay in the subconciousness of half the population, and with the economy, sovereignty, and constitution/Bill of Rights over the cliff, they'll put 2 and 2 together and figure out the JWO system. Now, the other half of the people, the sheeple, they'll buy the story wholesale, and that's part of Yahweh's punsihment on us, through our ancestors' sins, something the Jews don't wat you to understand either.
 
We can't change the fate Yahweh has put on this world and on us, but we can open up our eyes to it, living our lives with the truth, for peace and balance can only be achieved through the truth. "Be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."  That's the only way to survive, not falling for the Jews' multiple guised traps.

Correspondent from Florida
(Is an 88-year-old Nazi REALLY going to storm a holocaust Museum and not even kill a single Jew?   Oh, my aching joints!!!!   Where's the security cam video? - Eli.)
 
Item #5:  Stormfront Also Smells a Jew Rat!!
 
Is this story a hoax?
 
I realize that this may be viewed as insensitive by some, but my objective is to be objective.

My point is that the timing, location, target and facts sprrounding this incident are exceptionally suspicious, given the zionists penchant for "producing" these type things at the appropriate moment in time, to further their ambitions.

1) Timing: Congress is debating hate-crime legislation which israelis and jews are particularly interested in, due to their desire to destroy freedom of speech.

2) Location: The District of Criminals, close to congress' doorways, sending the clear message that the hate crime legislation is necessary for them to protect themselves, giving more weight to the zionists in congress' rants.

3) Target: The holohoax museum, which is the jew/israeli focus and that which they wish congress would focus on too. Obviously Von Brunn wasn't there to shoot a black armed guard, he must have been after jews. Fortunately, all the jews were unavailable for target practice.

4) Facts: Here is Von Brunn, supposedly a well trained white supremacist, who, without any real preparation, walks in off the street, carrying a rifle, and shoots and is shot by a security guard.
a) He wasn't challenged for the rifle.
b) He had no idea whether jews would be available to shoot.
c) There are 70 armed security guards (cameras?) and countless visitors, yet nobody saw anything.
d) Immediately, he is labeled by the media as a white, anti-semitic, supremacist, bent on making his own holocaust (a real one).

Argument:
This is far too pat, it is too perfect, just like so many mossad false flag ops. It is timed to affect members of congress at a critical time in history, when they are debating limitations on free speech and thought.

We may never know the truth, but I personally don't buy it. These are the same people who murdered JFK, Lincoln, and brought us 9/11. The same people who brought us into WWI & WWII, and who now seek WWIII and world domination. This legislation has no purpose but to limit criticism of their criminal acts and plans.

If anyone is offended by this post, I appologize.

[LatinAmericanview]

By the Way, the Black Panthers and La Raza murder whites and each other everyday. Do we hear it on tv? No. Like usual, it is Satan's plan of elminating True Israel, the white people, not the Beasts of the Field. Same old same old age old story, but nobody understands it, because they are brainwashed into being ashamed and afraid of understanding the facts and admitting the truth in them.

LA Raza is a political lobby organization in Washington. Do you have any proof that they murder people?  They push race base social agendas of socialist nature but murder? Where is the proof.
 

We can't change the fate Yahweh has put on this world and on us, but we can open up our eyes to it, living our lives with the truth, for peace and balance can only be achieved through the truth. "Be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."  That's the only way to survive, not falling for the Jews' multiple guised traps.

 This is another bullshit brained washing technique. it is GODS HANDS therefor we can't do anything.

1) Timing: Congress is debating hate-crime legislation which israelis and jews are particularly interested in, due to their desire to destroy freedom of speech.

2) Location: The District of Criminals, close to congress' doorways, sending the clear message that the hate crime legislation is necessary for them to protect themselves, giving more weight to the zionists in congress' rants.

3) Target: The holohoax museum, which is the jew/israeli focus and that which they wish congress would focus on too. Obviously Von Brunn wasn't there to shoot a black armed guard, he must have been after jews. Fortunately, all the jews were unavailable for target practice.

4) Facts: Here is Von Brunn, supposedly a well trained white supremacist, who, without any real preparation, walks in off the street, carrying a rifle, and shoots and is shot by a security guard.
a) He wasn't challenged for the rifle.
b) He had no idea whether jews would be available to shoot.
c) There are 70 armed security guards (cameras?) and countless visitors, yet nobody saw anything.
d) Immediately, he is labeled by the media as a white, anti-semitic, supremacist, bent on making his own holocaust (a real one).

Any ruling groups has an interest in quelling dissenters. However, is there really a need to crush voices if the loudest voices are from agents? Additionally, why would anybody hush people who have no clue as to what is going on? The majority of the world population have worthless opinions. Why stir th hornets nest if it can harm those in power?

NUMBER 4 Fact is thought provoking anymore observations?

[jai_mann]

Item #4:  A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE by Eli James:
 
Was von Brunn set up?  
 
Dear friends,
 
The holocaust shooting incident was very likely set up this way.
 
Mossad kidnapped the old man Von Brunn from his house, brought him in a backroom of the museum, and when the time was right, the mossad either killed him in the room and dragged out his body, or they quickly tossed him out in the museum and shot him, and then shot the unbriefed security guard, whil the other security guard, injured by glass, avoided a bullt since he was an agent of theirs as well, AND they needed a WITNESS.
 

I find this line of thinking highly plausible _IF_ an event occurred with this man. We are living in 1984 and I wouldn't put it past these SOBs to stage "War of the World" type operations which are purely scripts. It is understood that patsy's are an essential part of psyops. I do not see any reason why individuals with a given history of behavior wouldn't be selected as fall guys even if it requires stealthily absconding with them and shooting them and them planting them as evidence with the story line to boot. The only problem is that we can deal in speculation for a LONG time regarding intel methodology.

Here are some things I would like to add:

1) Can we confirm this guard existed and actually worked at the site?
2) If so, can we confirm what his schedule was?
3) if so, was he adhering to a normal schedule at the time of the shooting?
4) What other potential cameras were trained in the area where the supposed shooter traveled?
5) Can a .22 penetrate human rib cage or is it more likely to follow the path of least resistance along the bones (I have heard this is what happens with 22's whereas larger rounds have penetration)?
6) Were the .22 rounds hollow point (even less likely to penetrate bone)?

[LatinAmericanview]

In museum shooting, echoes of a wicked time
Philadelphia Inquirer - ‎4 hours ago‎
By Harold Jackson That was my first thought when I heard that an 88-year-old racist was the alleged gunman in Wednesday's shoot-out at the US Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.
Video: Museum to Reopen After Tribute to Fallen Officer The Associated Press
Museum Shooter's Son Condemns Father's Violence Washington Post
The Associated Press - New York Daily News - CNN  - Wikipedia: United States Holocaust Memorial Museum shooting
all 9,252 news articles »

[rmstock]

Off the bat, we must today conclude that the Holocaust has evolved into
a Myth.



Besides Mr. James von Brunn much more reputed persons like
Bishop Williamson have asked funded questions about what happened in
Poland. Strangely enough many countries in Europe have enacted specific
'Holocaust' legislation which blocks independent investigation into the
matter, without any discussion allowed. Do the authorities have
something to hide here?

Mr. von Brunn, who apparently is a mensa member, a highly intelligent
person, who is a WWII veteran and actually saved Jews from their
hazardous situation, makes a 180 degrees turnaround in his opinion and
becomes ... a white nationalist. How could that happen?

In 1981 he attempted to make a citizen's arrest of Federal Reserve
board members and is jailed for 6.5 years. Strangely enough, today, Mr.
von Brunn is not the only one who questions the Federal Reserve, as
House Rep. Dr. Ron Paul has recently filed a Resolution H.R.1207 , The
Federal Reserve Transparency Act which enacts Congress to start a
investigation into possible misconduct and financial criminal activities.

So Mr. von Brunn already knew where the real problems were in America.
The only issue which is in my opinion off the scale is to add racism into
the issues at hand. But then again, The Jewish community itself is
reportedly a supremacist body, which places Jews first. This is however
not uncommon these days as the fresh nominee for the Supreme Court
Sonia Sotomajor is reported to be a member of La Raza, which places
Hispanics first without consideration for other groups. And it is
President Barack Obama, who apparently has no problems with such a
Candidate openly adding Hispanic supremacy in her Court rulings.

When Mr. von Brunn then concludes that America has a severe problem
with Obama, who recently allowed economic healthy Chrysler Dealerships
to be closed because of campaign contributions to the Republican party,
I can imagine that with Mr. von Brunn some vains snapped and did what
he did.

If its a psy-op i dunno. But if James von Brunn had been really smart
be would have stayed home, and watch the clock ticking ... as the
tide is turning on this crap, very very fast.

[LatinAmericanview]

Off the bat, we must today conclude that the Holocaust has evolved into
a Myth.

I am not really sure what you mean by myth? Here is the definition.

myth
  /mɪθ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [mith] Show IPA
–noun
1.    a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, esp. one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
2.    stories or matter of this kind: realm of myth.
3.    any invented story, idea, or concept: His account of the event is pure myth.
4.    an imaginary or fictitious thing or person.
5.    an unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social institution.

Here is my perspective. The Von Brunn shooting may or may have not occurred. I have no way to verify the event. However, the countless media stories which I have been tracking can be verified. If Google is a fair barometer of activity then the story has reached a high level dissemination among the general population. I suspect that it will reach the peak with the burial of the fallen officer. Again I want to be clear, the story can not be verified but the physical number of articles and news outlets carrying the story can be verified. What more is the attitudinal shift that occurs in the target population. Read the comment section in some of the articles. Most of the comments express some sort of sympathy toward the Jews and disdain toward the shooter and his views. Social engineering is an art form. Careful manipulation of people attitudes is the basis of creating the socially desirable behavior. If you are interested in this type of analysis then watch Dr. Barnett- Pentagons New Road Map.

Mr. von Brunn, who apparently is a mensa member, a highly intelligent
person, who is a WWII veteran and actually saved Jews from their
hazardous situation, makes a 180 degrees turnaround in his opinion and
becomes ... a white nationalist. How could that happen?

This is simple access to information that the Jews actually orchestrated WWII.

In 1981 he attempted to make a citizen's arrest of Federal Reserve
board members and is jailed for 6.5 years. Strangely enough, today, Mr.
von Brunn is not the only one who questions the Federal Reserve, as
House Rep. Dr. Ron Paul has recently filed a Resolution H.R.1207 , The
Federal Reserve Transparency Act which enacts Congress to start a
investigation into possible misconduct and financial criminal activities.

Von Brunn is sos smart that he still clings on to the idea that America is not completely corrupt. This reminds me of the Ron Paul crowd that Prays for Paul. Dr. Paul's integrity will save America and restore her former glory. Dr. Paul could have used the millions of dollars collect during the campaign to educated his followers as to the nature of the problem. He did not.

So Mr. von Brunn already knew where the real problems were in America.
The only issue which is in my opinion off the scale is to add racism into
the issues at hand. But then again, The Jewish community itself is
reportedly a supremacist body, which places Jews first. This is however
not uncommon these days as the fresh nominee for the Supreme Court
Sonia Sotomajor is reported to be a member of La Raza, which places
Hispanics first without consideration for other groups. And it is
President Barack Obama, who apparently has no problems with such a
Candidate openly adding Hispanic supremacy in her Court rulings.

This is projection and speculation. Additionally, what does Hispanic supremacy mean? La Raza is aggressive pro-Hispanic advocacy group. They are puppets of some other group which are using Hispanics as a way to push a socialist agenda. The ADL has given material support to La Raza.

When Mr. von Brunn then concludes that America has a severe problem
with Obama, who recently allowed economic healthy Chrysler Dealerships
to be closed because of campaign contributions to the Republican party,
I can imagine that with Mr. von Brunn some vains snapped and did what
he did.

Again speculation. Where did get this insight about Von Brunns motives? Where did you get any information about this? The FUCKING INTERNET?! Again, the only claim that I make is that this "story" created n attitudinal shift in the target population.

[Yammitor]

What puzzles me is, we know von Brunn isn't stupid being a member of Mensa.

If we can agree on that, then we must ask why did he choose to attack the Eternal Victims on their self proclaimed mythical holy ground. Thereby allowing them to can gain maximum sheople sympathy AGAIN. Surely he would have known better, unless he was either set up or an agent from the start.

The fact that only a black guard was killed also says alot. The criminal Jews have a pattern of creating terror attacks that seem to target Jewish people, but if we look for details we can discover that no REAL jews were killed at all.

I can't think of the particular example now, maybe some one else can help me.
Remember those bus bombings by suicide bombers in Israel a few years back. One such instance was where a bus was bombed, alot of dead but there were no 1st class Jews on the bus. All the people on the bus were expendable 2nd or 3rd class (arabic or black) jews or migrants to Israel working as slave workers. The bus that was bombed subsequently did a world tour to gain more sympathy for the devils children  :evil: and show how evil the Palestinians were   :x  .

A more logical step for von Brunn who might have wanted "to slam the door with a bang on the way out" would have been to target the FED itself or one of the criminal banks like Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan perhaps.
If he had done this he would have in my opinion gained more sympathy from the public. The FED and Wall St bankers are not popular. The levels of public dissatisfaction with them are high at the moment especially with all the media nonsense of Auditing the FED Baloney courtesy of that Paid off Liar RON PAUL  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Von Brunn already has a history of taking action by himself, trying to arrest FED employees going back to 81.
An attack on the already known criminal elite bankers would have been the natural step I believe.
He had a pea shooter rifle (must have been hollow point), why not get into a sniper position (he is a veteran) and cover the entrance and exits ? No try to use your rifle as a pistol instead  :oops:  :oops: come on who is that dumb really ??
Guns in America are easy to get hold of. He could have went with a shotgun or anything really but he chose the worst weapon next to a knife for the job he tried to pull off.
When you include the timing and rash of other shootings its easy to see that whole business stinks and was a total setup job.

[Yammitor]

We can't change the fate Yahweh has put on this world and on us, but we can open up our eyes to it, living our lives with the truth, for peace and balance can only be achieved through the truth. "Be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."  That's the only way to survive, not falling for the Jews' multiple guised traps.

This is another bullshit brain washing technique. It is in GODS HANDS therefore we can't do anything.

I don't think its fair to label belief in God as bullshit just because it dosen't fit into your views. He is not saying to go home and do nothing. He was advising people to:
1. Keep faith in God
2. Live better lives in the truth
3. Be non-violent
4. Be wise and do not fall for the lies of the media, seems fine to me.

Religious belief is not for everyone, I do not seek for force your agreement. Gods existense as referenced in Bible has not been disproved yet to my knowledge. Personally the more knowlwdge I gain the more I have found the opposite to be true.

Your knowledge of chronology is very interesting. I am not yet convinced as i need to study chronology in more detail, untiI then I am not going to call your views bullshit   .

"The just shall live by faith alone" and for those who choose to deny God (christian god ) he says: "For this cause God shall send them strong delusion. Because they do not receive the truth." Thessalonians 2:11 & Romans 1:17

[LatinAmericanview]

We can't change the fate Yahweh has put on this world and on us, but we can open up our eyes to it, living our lives with the truth, for peace and balance can only be achieved through the truth. "Be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."  That's the only way to survive, not falling for the Jews' multiple guised traps.

This is another bullshit brain washing technique. It is in GODS HANDS therefore we can't do anything.

I don't think its fair to label belief in God as bullshit just because it dosen't fit into your views. He is not saying to go home and do nothing. He was advising people to:
1. Keep faith in God
2. Live better lives in the truth
3. Be non-violent
4. Be wise and do not fall for the lies of the media, seems fine to me.

Religious belief is not for everyone, I do not seek for force your agreement. Gods existense as referenced in Bible has not been disproved yet to my knowledge. Personally the more knowlwdge I gain the more I have found the opposite to be true.

Your knowledge of chronology is very interesting. I am not yet convinced as i need to study chronology in more detail, until then I am not going to call your views bullshit   .

"The just shall live by faith alone" and for those who choose to deny God (christian god ) he says: "For this cause God shall send them strong delusion. Because they do not receive the truth." Thessalonians 2:11 & Romans 1:17

Why reference the Jewish name for God and not Jesus Christ or Allah? However, your point is well taken.  The Chronological perspective explains the immortal Jewish Question without an appeal to religion or mysticism. I would hasten to add the New Chronological annalists have been co-opted by the various groups pushing  a one world government solution.  They do a marvelous job destroying religious beliefs but they do this because they have a particular agenda. Personally, I have no desire to attack or destroy anybodies beliefs. However, it is clear that religious beliefs are huge part of the people that tend to be attracted to the Jewish conspiracy. Here is a great example: Jews are God's Chosen People. The Jews must one day return to Holy Land  when they repent for their rejection of Christ. Jews have returned to Palestine and disposed the Palestinians of their lands. This is not Gods will since these Jews are not real Jews. This Jews are Khazars and therefore impostures; Moreover, these Jews are from the Synagogue of Satan. These Jews are not of the blood of Abraham therefore they do not have a covenant with God. For me it is simple, someone is using religion to justify colonialism to project their military power in the region. The Geopolitical explanation rings more true to me.

[Yammitor]

Another possibility coming from Edgar J. Steele which goes with the "Lone Wolf" scenario.

http://reasonradionetwork.com/_archive/EJS_20090610.mp3

I think this scenario could hold some water as it explains some what why the attack was so badly planned and executed.
Might explain the choice of location.
Assumes Von Brunn was acting as a lone wolf. Edgar J. Steele maintains that organized resistance will not break out in the foreseeable future as groups are infiltrated by the FEDS to the level of, 1 in 3 being an agent.

Von Brunn was preparing for a race war that never came, so instead he wanted to go down in history and and make a statement to the world.

I will try to explain his actions assuming he was trying to make a statement and not kill people.
The statement he was trying to make was.... i am guessing something to do with the holocaust being lies. He was also trying to draw attention to the criminal jews who control america and their weakest spot the holocaust- why else go to the holocaust museum.
He wanted to shoot the building full of holes as if in a way shooting the holocaust myth full of holes.
He is a racist, but not a mass murderer. He choose to kill a black man due to his racist views. In von Brunn's mind a death was necessary for the story to become big so its ok for him kill a black man.
Gun choice didn't matter he wasn't out to kill, just making a statement.
He didn't have to kill many people as one would be enough. He certainly did not want to kill any civilians.
He choose to execute his plan in a way that would fail unless he was not intent on mass murder from the beginning. That is why he went in the front door and had no plan to escape.

His motives were totally selfish. He wanted to go down in history.
He wants to force a race war ASAP.

He doesn't care about exposing the criminals. He has chosen a different road.
Force the sheople to fight back by forcing the situation to deteriorate as fast as possible.

Allow government to implement their plans sooner, make the sheople fight back sooner, by taking their rights ASAP.
Give more power to the criminal jews by attacking their fortress or weakest link depending on how its spun, in a futile effort.

[LatinAmericanview]

Another possibility coming from Edgar J. Steele which goes with the "Lone Wolf" scenario.

The techinque of Tyranny is to create a lie and then have people debate the truthfulness of that lie. I do not have a clue what Von Brunn's motivation might be.  However, given the profile generously provided by the media I know I should have certain ideas about what motivated Von Brunn. I say stick to what can be observed. Look at how the event was propagandized. Staged or not staged the event was propagandized and it has had certain effects on the target population. Stick with measurable outcomes.

[Yammitor]

I would hasten to add the New Chronological annalists have been co-opted by the various groups pushing  a one world government solution.  They do a marvelous job destroying religious beliefs but they do this because they have a particular agenda.

Could you please mention here or send me a pm with a few of the names that you feel have been tainted so I can avoid their material until i have a better understanding. This would save me alot of confusion.
There is nothing worse than beginning to look at an area and going to all the wrong places. I have found that this just helps to in enforce an idea that the new topic must be a load of rubbish, simply because I had looked at a group of dis-info sites from the beginning and did not have to knowledge to tell the difference.  :oops:

You are 100% correct religious beliefs of people are a huge problem as they are unwilling to look at ANY information which might contradict their version of GOD  

He referenced Yahweh because he is a christian identity pastor. He believes that jews have stolen the identity of the Israelites and their religion, therefore he references Yahweh as god.

[Tomas O'Crohan]

How about the fact that within moments of the "attack," the propaganda press was reporting at length about the alleged perp's history, writings, website, prison term and quoted an ex-wife ad nauseum, the "quotations" derived from her exactly fitting the bill for the object of the psy op. It had a decidedly 9-11 flavor to it. The only way the truth about any of these things can ever be established with certainty is to have a real investigation undertaken with a real, as opposed to a quisling, judge. We haven't had a real investigation of anything in this country in at least 100 years. Real investigations are going to take place for the first time in a long time after the head of this snake has been severed.

[LatinAmericanview]

This story is being used as obvious propaganda. I find the whole thing comical. Here is an observation. The story started about two hours ago with just over 200 articles cited in Google. Just watch it go viral. 2200-2500 Articles is the saturation point. If it goes about 5000 then it is a major psyop.

today's numbers

Some say Holocaust Memorial shooting signals a broader war
Philadelphia Inquirer - ‎11 hours ago‎
By Jesse Washington AP Crazies. Lone nut jobs. Isolated loonies. Those are frequent descriptions of people like James von Brunn, the 88-year-old white supremacist accused of opening fire at the US Holocaust Memorial Museum and killing a black guard.
Museum Shooter's Son Condemns Father's Violence Washington Post
Holocaust Museum reopens after shooting Atlanta Journal Constitution
CNN - New York Daily News - The Associated Press  - Wikipedia: United States Holocaust Memorial Museum shooting
all 9,366 news articles »

[rmstock]

The possibility that it was a staged psy-ops should not be ruled out,
according Michael Hoffman, von Brunn was a noted anti-Christian
and could very well be a Jew who was outcasted, because of
reporting truth. It looks like von Brunn was setup.

http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2 ... -race.html
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2 ... anity.html
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2 ... -lone.html

Has James von Brunn a Jewish heritage?

[LatinAmericanview]

The possibility that it was a staged psy-ops should not be ruled out,
according Michael Hoffman, von Brunn was a noted anti-Christian
and could very well be a Jew who was outcasted, because of
reporting truth. It looks like von Brunn was setup.

http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2 ... -race.html
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2 ... anity.html
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2 ... -lone.html

Has James von Brunn a Jewish heritage?

Hoffman is a very bright guy. I have read some of his work and find certain aspects of it compelling. The links provided were a bunch arguments based on innuendo. I thought this was rather weak. The real problem is lack of access to facts. Some have suggested that we compare one newspaper article to another article in order to data mine for facts. There one major problem with that approach it assumes that articles are not completely fallacious. We can only measure responses to the stories. In that respect, the Hoffman articles were thought provoking. We the propaganda create a bonding point for two "oppressed" peoples. Will Jews and Black find common ground? These are observations worth tracking.

[rmstock]

LatinAmericanview wrote :

Read the comment section in some of the articles. Most of the
comments express some sort of sympathy toward the Jews and disdain
toward the shooter and his views.

My sympathy goes out to Jews, Hispanics and anyone who have the
courage to report truth. Because if we don't the (B)liars (**) will
be able to maintain their sins, with the inevitable result that our
Orwellian World will self-destruct.

(**) Eric Arthur Blair (pen name George Orwell) :
     'In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.'

[LatinAmericanview]

World reacts to Iranian election result
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and the dramatic drop in stories is revealing

Son of suspect says museum shooting unforgivable
The Associated Press - ‎7 minutes ago‎
WASHINGTON (AP) - The son of a white supremacist accused of killing a guard at the US Holocaust Memorial Museum said Monday the shooting was unforgivable and he wished his father had died instead.
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[LatinAmericanview]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/frnkba

[jai_mann]

Von Brunn already has a history of taking action by himself, trying to arrest FED employees going back to 81.
An attack on the already known criminal elite bankers would have been the natural step I believe.
He had a pea shooter rifle (must have been hollow point), why not get into a sniper position (he is a veteran) and cover the entrance and exits ? No try to use your rifle as a pistol instead  :oops:  :oops: come on who is that dumb really ??
Guns in America are easy to get hold of. He could have went with a shotgun or anything really but he chose the worst weapon next to a knife for the job he tried to pull off.
When you include the timing and rash of other shootings its easy to see that whole business stinks and was a total setup job.

Can the "history" of his attempts on the FED be CONFIRMED? Are we CERTAIN that these attempts occurred or is it possible that this is merely back story to associate a "lone nut" with the FED and hence forth establish a conditioned attitude in the general populace toward those who point out the criminality of the FED? Are we to believe that a "lone nut" who MIGHT have (need confirmation!) attempted to confront extremely powerful men w/ a sawed off shotgun was not under 24-7 surveillance there after? We are only talking about men who operate the greatest counterfeiting operation in the history of the world here... The more I examine some of the arguments here and think about the scenario myself, the more I am convinced that this is a psyop. It is at this juncture that, as LAV has pointed out, we MUST, MUST, operate based off of what is observable and not simply the information we are being provided (from his supposed website and from the media). We can use the scientific method here to draw strong conclusions rather than speculate.

[LatinAmericanview]

MUST, operate based off of what is observable and not simply the information we are being provided (from his supposed website and from the media). We can use the scientific method here to draw strong conclusions rather than speculate.

                       
agreed

[jai_mann]

Another possibility coming from Edgar J. Steele which goes with the "Lone Wolf" scenario.

http://reasonradionetwork.com/_archive/EJS_20090610.mp3

I think this scenario could hold some water as it explains some what why the attack was so badly planned and executed.
Might explain the choice of location.
Assumes Von Brunn was acting as a lone wolf. Edgar J. Steele maintains that organized resistance will not break out in the foreseeable future as groups are infiltrated by the FEDS to the level of, 1 in 3 being an agent.

Von Brunn was preparing for a race war that never came, so instead he wanted to go down in history and and make a statement to the world.

I will try to explain his actions assuming he was trying to make a statement and not kill people.
The statement he was trying to make was.... i am guessing something to do with the holocaust being lies. He was also trying to draw attention to the criminal jews who control america and their weakest spot the holocaust- why else go to the holocaust museum.
He wanted to shoot the building full of holes as if in a way shooting the holocaust myth full of holes.
He is a racist, but not a mass murderer. He choose to kill a black man due to his racist views. In von Brunn's mind a death was necessary for the story to become big so its ok for him kill a black man.
Gun choice didn't matter he wasn't out to kill, just making a statement.
He didn't have to kill many people as one would be enough. He certainly did not want to kill any civilians.
He choose to execute his plan in a way that would fail unless he was not intent on mass murder from the beginning. That is why he went in the front door and had no plan to escape.

His motives were totally selfish. He wanted to go down in history.
He wants to force a race war ASAP.

He doesn't care about exposing the criminals. He has chosen a different road.
Force the sheople to fight back by forcing the situation to deteriorate as fast as possible.

Allow government to implement their plans sooner, make the sheople fight back sooner, by taking their rights ASAP.
Give more power to the criminal jews by attacking their fortress or weakest link depending on how its spun, in a futile effort.

Pure speculation based upon information which has not been confirmed. It can't even be confirmed that this event occurred yet. If we can not confirm that we are or are not dealing with an Orson Welles broadcast of War of the Worlds scenario, then it is a poor use of time to speculate upon the intentions of the proclaimed villain. We can call into question elements of the scenario but personal "motivation" theories are merely theories. What is abundantly clear is the manner in which the story (real or fake) is being conveyed and the attitude conditioning which is being attempted via the manner in which the story is being conveyed.

[THE AQUARIAN 1]

Have any of you been reading Von Brunn's book "Tob Shebbe Goyim Harog," which translates as "Kill The Best Gentiles?"

He definitely did his research, as shown here:

"Under Wilson, DEMOCRACY replaced our republic; America's monetary system was placed in ILLUMINATI hands; and JEWS received the Balfour Declaration (guaranteeing a Jewish "Homeland"), quid pro quo, for bringing America into WWI.  Under Roosevelt, LIBERALISM/MARXISM/JEWRY triumphed over Western Civilization.  JEWS were guaranteed the state of ISRAEL quid pro quo for again bringing America into war against Germany (WWII)."  Page 19.

And this is kind of interesting:

"It is inconceivable to JEWS that any race but GOD'S CHOSEN should have its own State." Page 24.

However, it's made very clear, with quotes like the one below, that this man, somewhere along the line, turned like Mike Delaney, who, by the way, has openly praised James Von Brunn's "actions," whether he was responsible for them or not, on prothink.org.

"The once productive White civilization of Rhodesia and South Africa, extorted by the ILLUMINATI and its enforcement unit, the United States, have been forced into DEMOCRATIC governments, thereby surrendering their White families to the mercy of numerically superior and mentally inferior Negroes whose ancestors were incapable of inventing even the wheel." Page 14.

He makes it very clear.  Whether he is right about Rhodesia and South Africa being forced into democratic governments isn't the point.  The man is a racist.

Now, I can say unequivocally that the person who wrote this book, as misguided as  I believe much of it to be, was trying to make things better for the human race.  Could he have been the person who shot people in the Holocaust museum?  Yeah, he could have been, and he probably was.  This does not mean all of his views are wrong, it means he got lost in the riddle and went crazy.  It's hard for some people to see passed the idea that all Jews are evil in some way.  Personally, I do not understand this.  It's incredibly obvious that Jewish people, in general, are great people.  The human race, in general, is a great species.  When a person hates other people, that hatred is more often than not a consequence of self-hatred.  In this particular case, if Von Brunn was responsible for the shooting, he was well studied and had tons of evidence to fuel his hatred.  

Almost all the major power channels in this world are controlled by criminals.  These people must be identified, their motives exposed, and their crimes punished.  But, it's not the Jews.  Is it Jewish people?  Yeah, there are Jewish people.  The Talmud is completely fucked, and those who follow the tenants of the Jewish faith that project the "Chosen People" myth have a completely insane view of reality.

Are all Jews evil?  No.  Can we at least agree on that?  On this forum?  I can name plenty of Jews that I respect greatly:

Stanley Kubrick
Philip Glass
Woody Allen
Errol Morris
Elmer Bernstein
Danny Elfman
Andy Kaufman
Mel Brooks

Whenever I post, I find myself trying to make sure this place doesn't derail, cause I think it's a very good source of information.

You should probably check out this book.  It's quite interesting, even if much of it is off the rails.

Yours,

THE AQUARIAN 1

[LatinAmericanview]

Edgar J. Steele is also a lawyer. So why would he go down this road?

[jai_mann]

Could you please mention here or send me a pm with a few of the names that you feel have been tainted so I can avoid their material until i have a better understanding. This would save me alot of confusion.
There is nothing worse than beginning to look at an area and going to all the wrong places. I have found that this just helps to in enforce an idea that the new topic must be a load of rubbish, simply because I had looked at a group of dis-info sites from the beginning and did not have to knowledge to tell the difference.  :oops:

You are 100% correct religious beliefs of people are a huge problem as they are unwilling to look at ANY information which might contradict their version of GOD  

He referenced Yahweh because he is a christian identity pastor. He believes that jews have stolen the identity of the Israelites and their religion, therefore he references Yahweh as god.

It would behoove you to work on assessing the validity of what LAV, myself, Ognir, and every one else says. It would not be in your best interest to mistakenly place faith in one of us if we turned out to be disinfo agents ourselves or honestly mistaken. Unless you have already spent time assessing the statements made by an individual and confirmed that the statements are trustworthy you should be careful. This should become second nature to you as an independent researcher. It will help in nailing disinfo artists or in correcting other honest researchers who may make their own incorrect observations. "You shall know them by the fruits of their labor." Right?

 At any rate, it would also behoove you to actually check out noted disinfo artists in order to learn the techniques which they employ to promote false information or to deflect those who may question their integrity. Your exposure to the known disinfo agents will help you out in picking up "red flags" from new disinfo agents. As credibility is lost with certain agents they will fade into the woodwork (al gore-global warming, Hal Turner-leaked emails between him and FBI handlers thanks to some hackers, etc.) and the new agents will gain exposure via controlled propaganda mechanisms. Some of these agents will completely drop off of the map, others will wait for the memory deficient masses to forget and then reappear (H. Turner).

I think the work of most of the people on this site speaks for itself but I just want to reinforce the importance of certain methodology to strengthen one's independent skills at observation. If you can eventually become a sheep dog then the wolves we are fighting against will have one more thorn in their side.

[jai_mann]

How about the fact that within moments of the "attack," the propaganda press was reporting at length about the alleged perp's history, writings, website, prison term and quoted an ex-wife ad nauseum, the "quotations" derived from her exactly fitting the bill for the object of the psy op. It had a decidedly 9-11 flavor to it.

That's a key observation. If a "terror" event is to be reported then the information immediately paired with it will be the most salient attitude conditioning factor. It is not in the best interest of those conducting a psyop to report a terror event, allow a massive lapse in between the event and the factors to be conditioned, and risk having independent sources question the story before attitude conditioning has occurred.

For those unfamiliar with behavioral conditioning please research Ivan Pavlov and BF Skinner (respondent and operant conditioning respectively).

[Anonymous]

The guards shot each other! :roll:
http://www.newsnet14.com/2009/06/witnes ... von-brunn/