COMPLETE Degradation of Japanese Society...

[LordLindsey]

Having lived in Thailand and travelling to seven (7) Asian countries in 19 months, I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE that Asian society is changing very quickly to something that, I can promise you, you don't want to have happen across the world; the absolute feminization of men is A FACT that I have seen with my own eyes and is ENCOURAGED in the schools by many of the other students and even teachers to those who have even a hint of being effiminate.  

The weaker a man is naturally to the male instincts of a strong father, the "bread-winner," and aggressive against those threatening his and his family's well-being, the much easier it is for the nation to be completely enslaved and raped as the majority--or VERY LARGE PERCENTAGE--of men have lost what makes a man a man.  Putting on make-up and being afraid to get dirty is EXACTLY how the oppressors of humanity NEED for men to behave so there is no resistance.  People, I have experienced first-hand this sickening collapse of the strength of the "man-hood" of Asian society, and it is one of the reasons that I became completely dis-illusioned by what I saw.  Japan, and SE Asia in general, are already done with regard to the path that a very large percentage of men have chosen in their lives; it pains me to realize that the exact same thing will end-up happening across the world because a weak man becomes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but a slave.

LINDSEY

The Independent (UK)

"Japan's Generation XX

They are known as the grass-eaters: effeminate young Japanese men more interested in perfecting their looks than finding a job or starting a family.

Saturday, 13 June 2009

In Japan some call them herbivores, and on Saturday nights they come out to graze: a perfumed army of preening masculinity. Groomed and primped, hair teased to peacock-like perfection and bodies wrapped in tight-fitting clothes, their habitat is the crowded city where they live in fear of commitment, and the odd carnivorous female who preys on them.


For much of this decade, the older men who drove this country to the top of the economic league tables have looked on in bewilderment at the foppish antics of the generation below.

Japan's twenty- and thirtysomething males seem disinterested in careers and apathetic about the rituals of dating, sex and marriage. They spend almost as much on cosmetics and clothes as women, live with their mums and sit down on the toilet when they pee. Some have even been known to wear bras. "What is happening to the nation's manhood?" wonders social critic Takuro Morinaga.

Now they have their answer: Japanese males are transforming into grass-eaters.

Coined by columnist Maki Fukasawa, the term soshoku-danshi (herbivorous male) has become one of those cultural buzzwords that hijacks the Japanese media every couple of years. With its implied disdain for vegetarians, the term has been popularised in a bestselling new book called The Herbivorous Ladylike Men (who) are Changing Japan by Megumi Ushikubo, president of Tokyo marketing firm Infinity. Her company claims that roughly two-thirds of all Japanese men aged 20-34 are now partial or total grass-eaters, and a very long way from the classic twin stereotypes of 20th-century Japanese masculinity: the fierce, unyielding warrior and the workaholic salary-man.

"I noticed these major changes taking place between my father's generation, the 58 to 63-year-olds who are retiring now, and the under-35s," she explains. "This is just a very different breed."

Ms Ushikubo believes that the post-war corporate samurai is increasingly a carnivorous dinosaur, whose legendary dedication to the company – at the expense of family – is as much a relic as dawn calisthenics on the factory floor.

"Grass-eaters" by contrast, are uncompetitive and uncommitted to work, a symptom of their epic disillusionment with Japan's troubled economy. "People who grew up in the bubble era (of the 1980s) really feel like they were let down. They worked so hard and it all came to nothing," says Ms Ushikubo. "So the men who came after them have changed."

Like many all-encompassing buzzwords, "herbivore male" can be laughably imprecise. Among his other qualities, the herbivore is close to his mum, has a liking for deserts and foreign travel and leans toward platonic relationships with the opposite sex. He will happily share a night with a woman without laying a hand on her and doesn't waste his money on prostitutes.

But the term resonates with a generation struggling to make sense of profound social disruption rooted in economic changes. Wealth disparities are corroding Japan's meritocracy and poverty is rising. A 2007 OECD report showed that relative poverty in Japan is the second worst in the developed world, after the United States.

Business magazine Weekly Diamond recently noted that more than 80 per cent of 35-year-olds in Japan live on an annual income of two million yen – a key poverty benchmark. "I don't think the lives my parents had is an option for us anymore," laments Kai Ishii, a 26-year-old broker in Shizuoka Prefecture. "I want to eventually get married and buy a house. I just don't know when I'll be able to do that, even if I'm still in a job."

About one third of the Japanese workforce is now casual or part-time, and confidence in the future is at rock bottom. For many young men, the post-war dream of lifetime employment, home and family, with all the sacrifices it entailed, is fading. In response, some have turned their energies elsewhere, toward the once feminised sphere of consumption – or away from life altogether.

Millions remain at home as "parasite singles", meaning they live with, and off, their parents. The pressing need to find a partner has been alleviated by the ubiquity of porn, sex toys and virtual sex on bedroom computers – one reason, say analysts, why consumption of condoms has been falling for a decade. Even those who opt for conventional marriage find their old role of main breadwinner is no longer available: men and woman increasingly share the roles of work and home.

Many of these complex changes are also occurring elsewhere, and are not unwelcome, points out sociologist Yuko Kawanishi. "Japanese men had it good for a long time. They were macho and sexist, and neglected their wives, so it's good that they're discovering their feminine side, and learning to cooperate."

Ms Ushikubo also hails the rise of the ojyo-man, or ladylike men. "My generation expected that sort of traditional man to pay for everything, to get the good job and support us," the 41-year-old author recalls. "But that system put a lot of pressure on men. They don't know when they'll be fired, or restructured. The idea that they had to carry the burden by themselves is fading and I think we're seeing more equal relationships."

While sociologists debate its merits, the herbivore phenomenon has become popular media fodder. On one discussion show this year, a group of grass-eaters faced their older counterparts like opposing armies across a battlefield. "Men are turning into women," lamented critic Mr Morinaga.

The blurring of gender boundaries has been highlighted by stories appearing to demonstrate that once proud alpha-males are being symbolically castrated in the home. Toilet-maker Matsushita Electric Works reported a survey this year suggesting that more than 40 per cent of adult men in Japan sit on the toilet when they urinate – a figure that is rising year by year.

Nagging wives are also blamed for the rise of the Tenshi no Hizamakura, or Angel's Knee Pillow, a kneeling stool with an unfortunate resemblance to a church pew that brings men closer to the bowl when they pee. Designed to stop splashing around the bowl – women after all still do the vast bulk of household cleaning – the product's arrival prompted the following headline in one media outlet "Men brought to their knees by angry housewives".

Marketing experts like Ms Ushikubo, who has also written a book called The Consumption Power of Twenty-something Happy Parasites, have been quick to learn the lessons of the new herbivorous world.

Men are now leading purchasers of hair products, make-up, fashion accessories and manicures. A Tokyo-based company called WishRoom is even selling men's bras, some to middle-aged salary-men.

"They were the generation we had been told were 'manly' – they led Japan in the post-war period," WishRoom president Masayuki Tsuchiya told the Japan Times this month. He said the company had sold more than 5,000 of the bras to men who are probably reacting against the classic stereotype of stoic, silently enduring male. "They said wearing a bra just made them feel more calm, relaxed and revived."

True carnivores sigh in disgust, but could the grass-eaters be merely the latest flowering of an old tradition? Japanese culture has long had a strong element of androgyny: During the Tokugawa period (1603-1868), men played women and women dressed as men for the theatre, while erotic art celebrated bisexualism and transgender role-playing. The traditions live on in the Takarazuka Review, which features women performers in dress suits playing men, and in Kabuki theatre.

The common element between the Tokugawa era and today, says Osaka-based philosopher Masahiro Morioka, is peace. "Japan has been free from any form of conflict since the Second World War, and that has liberated men from the need to be manly."

Not that he or anyone else is advocating a return to war to give men back their symbolic cojones. "I think the changes among men are mostly healthy and are here to stay," says Ms Ushikubo. "Men are nicer to the women in their lives and happier with themselves." What can be bad about that?


Re: Whoa!
ejh16 wrote:

Sunday, 14 June 2009 at 02:11 pm (UTC)
This article is complete nonsense. It's so bad that the writer (who likely has never been to Japan and surely does not speak Japanese) did not even put his name at the top.

I was at a mall in Japan this afternoon. I would like to reassure the readers of The Independent that I witnessed in the public restroom many Japanese men standing (not sitting) at urinals pissing just like western men.

Also, while it is true that the birthrate is low here (just as it is in most of western Europe), please do not worry yourselves about the sex lives of Japanese people. Yes, this country produces a lot of porn (what country doesn't these days?) and, yes, it is apparently rather popular (again, is that any different than in the US or England, for example?), but, based on many conversations with Japanese friends here over the years I can assure all you concerned people that Japanese me do, in fact, still like to fuck.

Maybe the editors of The Independent, a most valuable newspaper with many, many strengths, ought to get over their obsession with anything remotely sexual or related to breasts, penises, etc. and also do a little fact checking before posting garbage articles like this about Japan. http://theunpeople.blogspot.com/
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pakeha51 wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 06:32 am (UTC)
Not bizarre - 'things' change, and often, as the article points out, in an historically circular fashion. No need for banzai, no money for whiskey, and so many people crammed into a smallish archipelago that reproduction doesn't seem to be important. Perhaps this is the first view of the future of the first world. But bras?

auburn_november wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 09:28 pm (UTC)
my thoughts exactly. I'm supportive of everything in this article, God knows Japan is ridiculously patriarchal, but BRAS?

(no subject) - auburn_november - Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 09:51 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Whoa!
chiennoir wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 06:38 am (UTC)
Not bizarre. Just a natural reaction to an over-masculine and over-competitive society.

Viola! C'est la vie!
nooraza wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 06:49 am (UTC)
No big deal! Japanese tradition (as of most tradition) emphasizes too much on sexist macho arogance, so this is indeed a nice change! For long suffering women & girls!

Re: Viola! C'est la vie!
seraskier wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 08:18 am (UTC)
Viola? What on earth does the alto member of the violin family have to do with this?

seraskier, I mean to say VOILA! I just love that French word! - nooraza - Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 01:58 pm (UTC) Expand
Parasites
fourpie wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 07:06 am (UTC)
I don't think it matters a jot what sexuality people adopt but being a parasite on your parents, that is not fair play. It is usually the mother that takes up all the extra shopping and house work that involves. It is an increasing phenomenon in the UK. There are two men of 40+ living with their parents in where I worked, a company with just 30 men. What's more these men don't even have any handyman skills to keep house and garden in good order.

japan men bringingout their femail side
mind_ful wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 07:45 am (UTC)
this is just the sterotpical sea-saw swinging the other way. after thousands of years of a weird male-defined culture, they are reacting in the only way they know to reject it, whichis to be their idea of 'feminine'. they will sort out in tme and just become people.

It's the same in the UK, visit Oxford!
visiona4thought wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 07:46 am (UTC)
If you visit Cornmarket Street in Oxford (UK), in particular on a Saturday or sunny weekday, the place is teaming with young men whose hair and dress makes it hard to detect their gender or sexual preferences at first glance. In a way, society is becoming like that envisioned in HG Well's 'The Time Machine', and these youngsters are the first generation of Eloi. When we're next at war, there will be few to defend us - no wonder the military are investing in robots!

(Meanwhile, the women have lost their self respect and can often be seen walking around carrying beer or alchopops, no dignity whatsoever. Total gender reversal?)
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Male bra?
claphamomnibus wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 08:12 am (UTC)
This is a fascinating article, thank you, and reinforces my impression of Japan as the most incredible, alien place on the planet, with such unique culture often bizarrely different from our own. I find it in equal measure hysterically funny and absolutely intriguing that there is such a thing as a male bra. Any photos please? Japanese men are for the most part so slender I cannot see any physical need - unlike perhaps with some of our homegrown middle-aged man-boobed specimens. Any chance of seeing Nick Griffin in a male bra?
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The rampant sexism
larkspur_14 wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 08:23 am (UTC)
in this report is sickening. Not least because it is seemingly so unconscious.
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(no subject) - rayleddy - Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 08:38 am (UTC)
Re: Useless Men
steerpike66 wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 05:21 pm (UTC)
Would that be the Spain that a cabinet minister recently warned was in danger of becoming 'a nation of waiters'?

Grow up; Spanish machiso was always a laughing stock.
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Re: Useless Men - rayleddy - Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 05:34 pm (UTC) Expand
I do not believe this
famulla wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 08:42 am (UTC)
The HUGE Japanese scare me What do they eat? 340 kgs
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla

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Healthy sign
chiennoir wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 10:01 am (UTC)
Has any one seen the film "Beautiful Boxer"? It's about a Thai transvestite kickboxer by the name of Nong Toom. He knocked out 8 out of 10 of his Muay Thai opponents, yet outside of the ring he was as feminine as they come and even eventually had a sex-change operation. The point is that he was masculine where he needed it most - in the ring - and as soon as the aggressive male side of his personality had seen him through to victory, he immediately flipped over to the feminine side and kissed his opponent because, as he says in the film "I do not like to hurt strangers". In a culture which identifies too strongly with masculine values, the values of competitiveness, derived from capitalism and also those rooted in a warrior ethos, we are forced to repress whole sides of ourselves. Jung spoke of the anima in men and - very appropriate to Nong Toom - the animus in women. We can't deny these things. They will surface no matter how much we repress them, but they will surface in forms which are much more harmful if they are repressed. That Japanese men are beginning to realise the feminine side more completely is a healthy sign and not the reverse.
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Re: Healthy sign
aegian wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 12:11 pm (UTC)
A fascinating response chiennoir to an intriguing article. Similar reversals are taking place here in the UK, as other posters have pointed out. Perhaps there is an element of psychological illness in these new developments but as rickyrat has pointed out the thin line between what is male and female has often been twisted and attenuated in the past in Japanese culture.

Currently British soldiers are shocked by the openly gay culture that exists in Afghanistan. Human culture is an infinitely subtle, evolving, natural organism. In our own culture so many men are narrow minded and repressed and see women in general as consumerist bimbos, while women are fed up with the beer-swilling, football obsessive males, that it is no surprise that many of the generation under 25 are experimenting with nuances of what it means to be male/female. There is no point in commenting on these changes, or feeling threatened. Whatever happens will happen and as rickyrat said will inevitably morph into new forms. Plus ca change, le plus le meme chose!
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Jelly Samurai
toroviolet wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 10:44 am (UTC)
When peroxided blond Japanese young men started surfing at Bondi Beach 20 year ago it is/was the sign of transition.
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Bosh.
rickyrat wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 10:45 am (UTC)
One would think the author had never read Genji Monogatari or seen the eternally popular Kabuki play, Kanjincho.

This is total bosh. A feminine streak in the male runs all through Japanese history and culture, sometimes more affected or self-conscious than at others, but it's always been there and seems just as firmly in place today as ever. There is and always has been a sort of yen-yang relationship between the exaggerated macho and feminine streaks in the Japanese male. Nothing new in it at all. Furthermore, there has always been a sector of women here who favor men with a soft, feminine look, but that should in no way be construed as indicating the men are about to give up their macho privileges in society or become genuine vegans and feminists anytime soon. A certain portion of the younger fellows actually pay attention to their children and may even, occasionally do some minor chores around the home, but it's still mostly about running with the boys while the wives do their duty at home. And fad and fashion are exaggeratedly important here, another factor that is unchanged through the ages. Right now, there is a fad for male makeup and a soft look, and one for vegetarianism, which I should point out is appealing to the women as much as to the men, but that sort of thing comes and goes in Japan so rapidly that it makes one's head swim. Who knows what it will be tomorrow?

Besides, you know what you have after you put lipstick on a pig, don't you? Makeup is as superficial as much else of what exists on the surface in Japanese society, where there is even a name for the image one wears outwardly, as opposed to one's true self and feelings: tatemae for the former, hon-ne for the latter.

Believe nothing you hear and little of what you see.
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Re: Bosh.
auburn_november wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 09:41 pm (UTC)
I think that's true. This article doesn't try to distinguish between true changes in Japanese society and fashionable trends that come and go.

Personally, I hope it's more than a trend.
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'has a liking for deserts and foreign travel'
ehayc wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 11:06 am (UTC)
what does a penchant for sand have to do with it? a little proofing, please!
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Kusanagi? really?
stompie2 wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 11:23 am (UTC)
Considering Kusanagi's recent incident with public drunkenness and nudity, and the speculation about his sexuality that followed it, it seems like kicking a man when he's down to illustrate this article with his picture. As if the raging racism and misogyny of the whole piece, and the fact that it appears to be mostly ripped off from a recent Japan Times article weren't enough...

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I wonder
goawaygordon wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 11:35 am (UTC)
I wonder what is going to happen to Japan. A rapidly ageing population, a dramatically increasing unwillingness to marry or have children (combined with deeply entrenched xenophobia - who's going to do all the jobs that need doing? At the moment it's Koreans or burakumin - growing numbers of young men and women withdrawing to their rooms and living as hermits, or eschewing the prospect of work while gallivanting around Europe spending Okasan and Otosan's (Mum and Dad to you an me) hard-earned cash. And how about the NEETs and freeters?

I agree with an earlier poster's comments about Japanese culture being totally and utterly alien. I've visited Japan multiple times are remain as enchanted as I am perplexed by the Japanese and their culture. Speaking the language helps - but even so, many mysteries remain to an outsider. I also agree that one cannot use cultural history (Genji Monogatari etc.) to explain away the fact that youngsters are not forming meaningful sexual relationships with people of the opposite (or same, it makes no difference) sex, and using vibrating rubber penises and vaginas at home, in front of a computer screens, instead.

Japanese society is rebelling in a big way after having been straitjacketed for decades, nay centuries. I can see where this reaction is coming from, perfectly. Japanese society, for all its wonder, is completely stifling. But it does not take away the fact that this is deeply troubling stuff.

I would pay a lot of money to see what Japan looks like 50 years from now - it will be a very peculiar place indeed.
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Re: I wonder
radishthegreat wrote:

Sunday, 14 June 2009 at 07:18 pm (UTC)
"who's going to do all the jobs that need doing"

There's a lot of R&D in Japan into robots that can do household chores, dispense medications, and converse with the elderly.
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redsnowdeep wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 12:27 pm (UTC)
Has anyone seen the guys in Kabukicho, Tokyo?

I presumed they were working for host/ess bars for gay men, but actually were almost exclusively catering for the female customers!

Seems then that Japanese women must want a man to have highlights, identical haircuts, make-up and handbags..!
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So Eloi
lord_heehaw wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 12:56 pm (UTC)
Previous commenter has it dead right; this story is such a reminder of the Eloi in HG Wells classic The Time Machine; in fact I thought the same thing before I even read his comment. However, as interesting as your story is, I hope that 21st century Japan is not the model of future society elsewhere.

But, regardless, for anyone that hasn't read HG Wells "The Time Machine" you must read it; he could almost be talking about present day Japan. It's a short book ...won't take you long!




Prepaid Credit Cards

As the recession continues to bite, and careful consumers mind their pennies, spending habits have evolved accordingly. With a population at last beginning to question the wisdom of owning multiple credit cards, some are going even further and wondering if a further change may be necessary.



These consumers are the new breed of shopper that is increasingly choosing to use pre-paid credit cards. The name should tell you everything; they are, quite literally, credit cards (Visa and Mastercard) which have been paid for in advance. By definition you cannot overspend or rack up a huge credit card bill - or any bill at all.



Many people who may once have shunned such novelties are now flocking to pre-paid credit cards as a way to reign in their spending, but are increasingly realising their enormous benefits, which often include cover for theft and loss, the same as any regular credit card.



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Re: So Eloi
aegian wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 02:00 pm (UTC)
I agree that The Time Machine is utterly brilliant and prophetic. Interesting that posters think it could be applied to present day Japan. When I reread it a couple of years ago the Eloi seemed to me to be the current generation of people in England who have most of the biggest houses and wealth and are clinging to their power. The disenfranchised pop up out of their dark, underground non homes to flatter and cater to the every need of this rich, recumbent class who expect the state - ie the rest of us workers - to provide their twenty four hour care in a low-tax-rates-for-the-rich regime, while the working poor are taxed to the hilt.
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Viola!
chiennoir wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 02:08 pm (UTC)
"Viola? What on earth does the alto member of the violin family have to do with this?" Actually, if you read Shakespeare's Twelth Night you might find out!
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Who cares...
steerpike66 wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 05:19 pm (UTC)
This is just a reaction to an increasingly pointless ambition-based market system that offers no rewards at all, no money, no respect, no security for the slave/father/hero.

Why bother?
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Probably not as laudable as some would suggest...
bruno_t wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 05:42 pm (UTC)
It's a simple-minded reaction, the belief among feminists that men becoming neither use nor, however much slap they may apply, ornament is 'a positive thing'. It's not innocuous; I know of a few men who don't work or work little and live with Mummy, and they're pretty screwed up. They're deferential to women, but they also resent them. Masculine men tend, in fact, to be more trusting toward women and more able to converse with women as equals, rather than jealous, feminised rivals or bitter, darkly muttering borderline serial killers.

Plus it's naive to chalk up the fact that virtually every society in history has posited the male as the breadwinner to mere coincidence or cruel, insensitive 'patriarchy'. Grow up. Men have unusual strengths. Women have their own unusual strengths. Men feeling forced to abandon the idea of 'being a man' will simply squeeze into a role for which they have no particular talent. Gee, how enlightened. By the way, that actor in his lipstick looks like a bloody fright.
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Re: Probably not as laudable as some would suggest...
psil37 wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 09:10 pm (UTC)
I agree - it's a typical feminist-friendly article which makes sweeping generalisations about masculinity being cruel to women, and that dropping those masculine traits is somehow a good thing. That's kind of a bigoted view if we are going to espouse the "freedom to be yourself" - if we are free, then you can't say masculinity is all bad, and femininity is all good. This is a tyrcannical and sexist view to hold.

I spent 3 years in Japan. In fact, it's the women who control everything there. Mothers are often referred to as "mamagon" (mum monster); they control the finances in the house to the point that the husband is given money on a daily basis for his lunch. The guys work hugely long hours in dull jobs to support their families. The nomikai ("drinks meeeting") after work are equally boring and absolutely compulsary to attend (been there, done that) - not that it's everynight - otherwise you're just in the office til the last train home. The article fails to mention the hikikomori (about a million young men in Japan) who have completely given up on a social life and work, and spend all their time in their room. It's an understandable reaction because Japanese society is very very tough on its people - so many social protocols to observe, there's absolutely no wiggle room to "be yourself" (unless your with your friends) - you must follow the group or be ostracised. Bullying is EVERYWHERE in Japan. Frankly, it's a horrible place to live and work in, and a wonderful place to visit as a tourist.
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What?
wxcaluitr wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 09:43 pm (UTC)
A MAN with a brain and intelligence and some idea of VIRTUE and COURAGE will be and act and Think like a MAN.To hell with this feminist gay inspired rubbish.Be am damn Man for G-D`s sake!
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VIRTUE IS NOT DEAD
wxcaluitr wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 09:44 pm (UTC)
A MAN with a brain and intelligence and some idea of VIRTUE and COURAGE will be and act and Think like a MAN.To hell with this feminist gay inspired rubbish.Be am damn Man for G-D`s sake!
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What an encouraging concept - though badly fleshed out.
auburn_november wrote:

Saturday, 13 June 2009 at 10:38 pm (UTC)
It's a natural reaction, but far from healthy.
Japanese men have been subjected to a macho uber-masculine society and the younger men are simply beginning to rebel. However, totally dropping all "masculine" traits as though they were dirty, and sweepingly acquiring "feminine" traits is dangerous. Because while the traditonal Japanese male was a chauvinist workaholic, the traditional Japanese female is vain and passive, and relies on the the workaholic father to bring home the bread.

However, I don't think this article is as biased as some commenters have said. It does have the fault of describing just the one side, "herbivores" vs. "carnivores". What about the stagnancy of the traditional female culture, and the "herbivore" impact upon that?

I advocate "transgenderism", taking traits from both sides, men AND women becoming OMNIvores, if you take my meaning. I think gender lines should be blurred, but not in the sense of men becoming drag queens and women remaining the same. Otherwise you get a society with no ambition to make careers.
I hardly think those Japanese men are feeling forced to abandon "manhood", but "masculinity" should not be held as the cause for all the ills of Japanese society. Indeed, "parasite singles" is hardly a positive derivative of the traditional housewife lifestyle.
And bras? It seems a rather mindless and unhealthy copy of feminine living.

Still, I am generally supportive of Japanese society becoming less "masculine". Hopefully it evens out into an equal society, not one that is totally "feminine".


(Japanese sexuality I'm not even going to try to touch. It's all too strange and foreign)"

[kolnidre]

Henry Makow is right about the war on males, in the context of the usurpation of all traditional roles, including women's.

I've been observing the rapid feminisation of Asian males since noticing members of a Japanese national team in a very tough endurance sport looked like chicks and preened themselves like them. I was at the Asian championships in Korea and was jolted awake by how many of the Japanese team members spent so much care and time plucking their eyebrows(!), accessorising, and primping their hair. I noticed a similar trend among the younger Korean athletes, who live in a bizarro world where male circumcision has been universally adapted http://www.circumstitions.com/Korea.html as a rite of passage and supposed sexual performance enhancer and plastic surgery is as common as tooth fillings. This is a radical departure from the strongly Confucian structure of Korean society, and signals its breakdown from within.

During a trip to Japan a few months ago I observed a marked upturn in the effeminate "omnivore" population. I took photos of some particularly striking examples while on the subway, but unfortunately the quality sucked since all I had was a camera phone. I wish those photos were clear; what I saw was disgusting.

The trend is also gathering steam in formerly conservative Singapore and Taiwan. Look for it to infect China next.

[LordLindsey]

People who have never seen this shit would NOT BELIEVE WHAT WE ARE SAYING because it is so insane; these men have no strength of the character traits that a man SHOULD have and that is the very worst part for me.  To see these men and even kids being told that this is an acceptable way to live is fucking Twilight Zone material, and being a teacher in a very prestigious school made it even more troubling for me to witness FIRST-HAND.

I am at a loss for words because we are seeing all of these issues over-taking the entire planet and I simply have no more answers as to how to stop this because the people seem to either be too ignorant, STUPID, or just hopeless to do anything to make a major reversal of "OUR" own destruction--I say "OUR" destruction, because unfortunately you, me, and everyone else is in the same situation as outlined in The Protocols if you are not of the "Chosen."  These poor fools have ZERO understanding of the trap into which they have found themselves.

LINDSEY

[Anonymous]

It's here in HK as well, Thailand has a whole 3rd sex industry going on as well. but most of the Thai's I know  age 30's and up are as manly as can be.  In the small towns and villages that I visit seem to weathered people, mostly farmers. But Bangkok is another matter and maybe some of the bigger developed areas as well. it seems to be prevalent in the 15's to 25's group in hk and Thailand as far as I can see.

p.s. not related but I did discover that the King of Thailand was born in the US, thus being an us citizen or a dual citizen.

[LordLindsey]

John, THAT is exactly what I am saying.  The men in their late forties and up ARE very masculine, which is what makes this such an obvious diversion of the human beings' natural instincts of male/female roles and mores.  There is no doubt in my mind that SOMETHING very terrible has happened to the men of SE Asia because "I" have seen it with my own eyes, and it is NOT just in the major population area, either.  I travelled MOSTLY in the countryside during my 19 months, and I saw that the older men AND women had distinct roles and physical traits associated with the common perception of men/women relationships, but those who are my age and younger *32* do not seem to have that same characteristic in their minds--NOT ALL, of course, but many, many more than can be seen in the people older than I am.

The same thing is also happening in France, as Daryl has said numerous times, but what I saw in SE Asia *NOT just Thailand* really left me with a disturbed feeling about the future of man-kind if the people don't realize that they are becoming domesticated animals for those "Chosen" to rule over them.

LINDSEY