TiU Radio 20th May - LaV "Off Tangent"

[LatinAmericanview]

This is a comment feedback show.
This is a clarification and expanasion show. It is a light hearted look at some of the big questions.
Topics covered:
RBN
Cooper
Terence Mckenna
Chem Busters
The two Tara's
reply to comments
http://rapidshare.com/files/116157954/g ... w.wmv.html

[LatinAmericanview]

Sorry about Rapidshare but I do not have access to a stable internet connection. Thank you for posting a torrent in advance.
Cheers
Latin

[Ognir]

Will make a torrent when I get home from work

PS Re-edit your post on WUFYS as the rapidshare link isn't correct

[SacriFICE-TRUspeak]

If someone could do me a favor, and send me this show

Rapidshare screwed up and now I can't download it.

mailto:sacrifice@truspeak.org">sacrifice@truspeak.org - or re upload it for me .. would appreciate it.


thanks!

[blueocean]

Hi LAV,

In your show you give a good representation of your first reply to my points, in which you talk about the neurotic and the psychopath.

I agree with the power transfer proces that you describe.


I also know that from your responses that there is a much more fundamental difference in our positions, regarding the nature (and communication) of truth.

If I try to summarise your basic assumptions I would say they are sort of along the line of: 1 Objective Truth is basically the only Truth, and very difficult to communicate (especially if one wasn't there when it happened)

2 Subjective Truth is a belief. and a belief is basically non-truthfull. (according to objective empirical standards) This subjective truth is impossible to communicate.

3 Truth is basically unknowable and a conundrum. Only Objective empirical truth-(searching) can come close to it at best. (the cave)

In response to the theistic church crap and power games I can understand your move to the other end of the spectrum to a completely atheistic objective empirical approach to matters.
The starting point of this approach is one of non-knowing and then trying to know the truth/'unknowable'  


If your position is different then represented by me here then write the corrections to me for clarification.

[LatinAmericanview]

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I think this works

[LatinAmericanview]

How the hell do you attach stuff in this thread?
I want to attach a torrent.

[joeblow]

Wowdamnshitfuckgreat! You can't see this, but my eyes are tearing up, this is the exact format I've been waiting for. I can't believe I actually had to go through years of patriotard crap.

[LatinAmericanview]

What the hell are talking about?  :s

[blueocean]

Not sure what Joeblowman is talking about but his eyes are tearing up      

[joeblow]

I mean that someone speaking slowly, intelligently about specifically one part of the New Jew Order. Either the guy is smart, but get's too emotional and starts blabbering or the guy is a clueless dumbass who has a good presentation.

[LatinAmericanview]

"someone" who? Are you referring to me?

[joeblow]

"someone" who? Are you referring to me?

Yupp, sorry, I really suck at writing sometimes. It's actually laziness, I can actually write, if I don't try to do a bunch of things at the same time.

[LatinAmericanview]

Well since you are referring to me then what are the specific statements that "turn you off?" Also before you start calling people names it would be polite to be clear and demonstrate where the errors occur.

[joeblow]

I didn't say anything that you said turned me off, but to be honest it is a turn off for me and most people in the world when your atheistic tendencies show. But let's start off with two classical examples.

Alex Jones:
- Intelligent. Despite what one can say about him, you can never call him dumb. He obviously knows his shit, even though he does conceals some facts (= shills for the Jew).
- Emotional. The easist evidence is the Rothschild interview where even though Rothschild was lying through his Talmudic mouth, AJ came off as a lunatic.

Greg Szymanski
- Idiotic. Leo Wanta, Leo Zagami, ... but for the newer members of the conspiracy community, GS never has any idea about what the scam-artist guest is talking about.
- Well-spoken. He sounds incrediably creditable and you get the feeling that you want to be a part of the solution (I hate the Jesuit bullshit and even I sometimes get caught up in his spiel).

Right now, I am doing nothing but writing this post and I hope it shows in its quality.

[LatinAmericanview]

I didn't say anything that you said turned me off, but to be honest it is a turn off for me and most people in the world when your atheistic tendencies show.

I think that is a valid observation. sadly, I believe that most people are incapable of reasoning beyond that point. However, the ruling oligarchy certainly does not have those limitations and certainly benefits from tendency expressed by most people. Bjerkness is an atheist but he is much more diplomatic. This brings up an interesting topic- Why do truthers tend to Christians or Muslims? Where the fuck are atheists for 911 truth? All radio shows with the exception of DBS always use some sort of religious appeal. Anyway, thank you for being honest
Latin

[blueocean]

However, the ruling oligarchy certainly does not have those limitations and certainly benefits from tendency expressed by most people.

The ruling oligarchy benefits from both religious as well as atheistic 'tendencies' or so I see.

Why do truthers tend to Christians or Muslims? Where the fuck are atheists for 911 truth? All radio shows with the exception of DBS always use some sort of religious appeal.

Not sure.  maybe atheists are more material orientated and care less about more ideal things such as freedom, but this is only a guess. I mean, Humanists are supposed to care about freedom too. So I say: "Huray to real humanists".

[blueocean]

Latin,

You can find some allies in Susan Blackmore, Richard dawkins and Daniel C. Dennett,
 who will support your atheistic view of the world.  enjoy!  

[LatinAmericanview]

I have spoken with Dennent when I was at uni.  In fact we spent about half hour discussing his book. Darwin's Dangerous Idea.

[blueocean]

Phillip E. Johnson

"Daniel Dennett's fertile imagination is captivated by the very dangerous idea that the neo-Darwinian theory of biological evolution should become the basis for what amounts to an established state religion of scientific materialism"


Also read dawkins "The selfish gene"  and Susan Blackmore's "The Meme Machine"  

[LatinAmericanview]

I think he is much more dangerous then that. At some piont I will have to go over evolutionary theory in my shows which in my opinion is the religion of the ruling oligarchy.

[blueocean]

They use evolutionary theory to justify their own 'top dog' position in the world, making them better, more evolved, than 'ordinary' humans/goy.

[LatinAmericanview]

They use evolutionary theory to justify their own 'top dog' position in the world, making them better, more evolved, than 'ordinary' humans/goy.

Now this is a great point! They use evolutionary theory to justify and implement the agenda! The elite are better! They are better suited to take advantage of the current system that is selecting for this predator behaviour. They are also influencing the system to select for their particular qualities. It is like a feed back loop. Eventually it will crash but implication for the species could extinction.

[LatinAmericanview]

didn't say anything that you said turned me off, but to be honest it is a turn off for me and most people in the world when your atheistic tendencies show.

Yeah, well most people in the world are clearly brainwashed, backwards, ignorant people (such as those who continue to listen to alex jones and syzmanski even after they claim to know they're full of shit). Organized religion IS shit, in all and every case, I'm sure-- saying that doesn't make me 'atheistic'.

Let us begin to put a nail in this coffin! The predominantly Banker/Zionist oligarchy loves the religious believers. All they have to do is hijack the Vatican,blackmail Hagee, promise the Llama his thrown and pesto chango they control millions of dedicated worshipers.

[blueocean]

The Elite love worshippers and dupes


I will soon post findings in the talmudic kabbalah thread that shows a common thread that ALL of these enslaving philosophies and religions share,
even though they are supposed to be diametrically opposed to one another.

[LatinAmericanview]

Will make a torrent when I get home from work

PS Re-edit your post on WUFYS as the rapidshare link isn't correct

Thanks Og

Corrections have been made. Could you show me how to do an attachment.

[HammerHead]

Uploaded onto ConCen in mp3.

Here's the link :
http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/torre ... 20.torrent

Haven't listened to it yet though !

[LatinAmericanview]

Thanks Bro! It is great to be part of the community!

[Ognir]

Uploaded onto ConCen in mp3.

Here's the link :
http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/torre ... 20.torrent

Haven't listened to it yet though !

Yeah you did but you fell asleep on the job and have everyone stuck on 4.6%

and where did you get that 32MB version?

[LatinAmericanview]

Wmv conversion to mp3.   it double the file size