HHQ - EXPLANATION OF MY RECENT HIATUS

[Hei Hu Quan]

Greetings all,
         As you may or may not know, I've taken a hiatus from the forum and radio show. My reasons are that I've been disappointed at the level of lop-sided Jewish obsession the forum has taken. Are there Jewish criminals and crimes? Of this there is no doubt, but I have heard from a number of concerned members who have expressed the same sentiment. I know for a fact that this present course is costing us in reputation, credibility and progressive alliances. In terms of strategy it is a blunder of absurd proportions as it virtually dissolves the base out from under us and thwarts what we are hoping to build. This forum was an initiative borne of making a difference and definitive change in terms of bold information dissemination. It was to be a beacon of information and a place for serious investigation of crimes against our survival by cowardly criminals who ply their hands in secret. Crimes that are felt well before they are known that go largely unchallenged by anyone, and thus allowed through compliance and silence.

I took the initiative to build the original forum and our new home here with the very capable cooperative assistance of Ognir, Eirewarrior, AZixX and Maragenie; with much respect to Rockclimber and MikeWB of whose contributions have been most outstanding. This vision was to provide a forum for investigation and pursuit of IllumiNazi criminals. I feel now that this direction has been lopsidedly been pushed to near obsession of all things Jewish. Those who know me by any measure know that I live my name and my word and that has always been my personal standard of excellence. Thus anything that appears on this forum or the radio as well as its direction we all must sign off to. I believe we must create a standard that addresses the minority of criminal Jews whilst not castigating all through general inference. Such as exposing the crimes of Nazis and the Mafia without castigating Italians and Germans. Using a bow & arrow approach instead of a wild shotgun. I have taken time to observe from an objective distance and this is what I as well as any new comer must see. If the masses read and chuck us out with the bathwater then our message has fallen to deaf ears and we have lost before we ever had a chance to win.

Needless to say I haven't felt comfortable for a little while signing my name off on the lop-sided direction, casual references that tacitly credit and associate with racialist bastards or slip-shod investigations that only invite derision and ridicule.

As such, I am putting out an amiable and democratic call to the Info Underground massive to right this ship and begin to put the investigatory focus back on track. True criminal detection that allows the evidence to speak and lead, to the dogged pursuit of truth and justice. Rather than have prejudice and subjectivity take the lead to jaundice proper investigations. I am NOT advocating any refrain from pursuing crimes of Zionists and other criminals who use Judaism as a shield. What I am saying is stick to cases we can prove with evidence and not conjecture or hearsay, and also keep things in their proper perspective. If we call out Jew on every bloody thing without due proof we look insipid and obsessive and are viewed and dismissed as a forum that is limited. Think proactively that you are presenting cases to members who may not have the same level of knowledge as most of us, who come here seeking both camaraderie and truth found no where else.

The current pursuit has cost us valuable allies who you may or may not have noticed have slowly been retracting their support. It also costs us in potential Jewish allies who maybe sincerely looking to join up, stand and fight by our side. I know if I was a progressive Jewish person I wouldn't feel comfortable at all coming to the forum, because I'd always be wondering if there wasn't some covert hatred of me. Take a look most objectively and see if this is not the case. We need every sincere infowarrior regardless of ethnicity, race, religious belief and male or female gender that can be mustered to this dogged fight for justice. Those who believe otherwise are living and propagating the indoctrination of our enemy and are absolutely shit useless to any progressive struggle.

Thus I have presented my case in the hopes of salvaging and moving  the forum forward. If you wish to pursue this present course, and continue down a self-destructive path then that is what is to be. But I will not be party to it and sign my name off on it. I am committed to the fight for truth, justice and security of true freedom. It's what I've always been about and why this is so important to me. Stay the path of the just, or tread a path of fools to be cast aside is the choice to be made.

Cheers and respect.

[THE AQUARIAN 1]

As a newcomer on this forum I am happy to have read this.  The title "Jew" seems to have become synonymous with "Freemason" or "Bilderberger" or "member of the Council on Foreign Relations."  This type of logic is not of use any longer.  These tags might lead to facts, but they aren't facts in and of themselves.

Calling someone a name doesn't assign blame.  It just makes things easier for you.

Yours,

THE AQUARIAN 1

[HeadBanger]

I don't know what your name means.

Black Tiger Fist?

[blueocean]

Well said Hei Hu Quan,


Zionist criminals or Talmudic criminals  or zionist banker criminals (or satanic kabbalists or any other name that is more specific in pointing out the criminals)  are a couple of the terms that are more like an arrow than the clusterbom 'jew' .

We should encourage all of the jews that disagree with these criminals to join/help us in the fight for freedom and truth and get these criminals out.

And yes, it is also about presenting our case to those who are not yet in the know, but wan't to know.



Blue

[Ognir]

Needless to say I haven't felt comfortable for a little while signing my name off on the lop-sided direction, casual references that tacitly credit and associate with racialist bastards or slip-shod investigations that only invite derision and ridicule.

Let's get down to the belly of this one, White Nationalism and Racism!

It seems my quoting of a ridiculous statement by David Duke set this off on our last broadcast and here we don't agree. I'm trying to fight a system of revisionism, where by the controllers of the media and history in general , shall I mention their names try to kill all info regarding their crimes down the centuries.

The issue of White Nationalism has to be addressed if our forums are to expand.

Speaking personally for myself :

Do I read WN sites/blogs?
Yes from time to time

Do I think race is an important issue?
Nope it's more divide and conquer nonsense. Idiots in the WN movement think that moving the blacks to Africa or Asians to Asia will solve anything. The overall problem is our Talmudic Jewish International Bankers still will be in power.

Will I stop reading/researching from WN type sites among many others ?
No fucking way. I'm old enough to read and pick out the bullshit and stick with the information.  CNN our Zio controlled channel for example calls Duke an extremist and ex-KKK.  I've listened to many audios of Duke and to be honest he could easily be an agent, no doubts about that but I just can't condemn all 100% of his work as nonsense just like the Zio Controllers want. My interest is the Criminal Jewish Element and people like ex-KKK have many many more years of research on the issue than I have.

Will I condemn racism ?
Absolutely 100%

Am I a White Nationalist ?
Absolutely not.  Listen this is the problem that these fuckin WN morons have,  that if all the whites or blacks or whatever were together that everything would be great. That's just fuckin stupid full stop.  Whenever the shit hits the fan, it will be every man for himself and his family and people close by, and religion and colors wouldn't be important, survival will be.

Should TiU be open to WN types?
This is a key issue. We all came to TiU via different vehicles, personally I came thru torrents, 911, AJ, ConCen etc.
Has my overall opinions changed much in the past 4 years? Absolutely thru research and investigations. Now should we close the doors to say a Black that thinks Whites are to blame for his situation or should we help in his/her education via the info posted on our forums?

Basic rule here at TiU is leave RACISM at the front door before you agree to join our network, when you click on I AGREE


Are all Jews to blame?
That is just stupid but I'm guilty of using the term loosely over the past 2 years as I try to find the right wording, Talmudic, Criminal, Khazars etc etc and here HHQ has a very valid point.

However,  as I've done 70 odd audio broadcasts I hope my message wasn't to kill or harm every single Jewish/Black/White person on the planet, personally thru research my own knowledge is expanding but the core criminal element has a very predominating Jewish Element, as HHQ quite rightly pointed out Mafia & Nazis and Germans & Italians.

Me thinks that another issue not dealt with here or mentioned by HHQ maybe the list of Guests on TiU Radio and this maybe best dealt with in private or maybe not.  For example, HHQ said

Of this there is no doubt, but I have heard from a number of concerned members who have expressed the same sentiment.

However, I received from a trusted member the following PM but a day or two ago

Og,

This guy runs this blog: http://zionistwatch.wordpress.com/

It's an awesome blog! His email is: mailto:patrickgrimm75@yahoo.com">patrickgrimm75@yahoo.com

Wanna interview the guy?

Thanks bud!

So maybe think about this, Patrick Grimm a White Nationalist, has done some great work on exposing the Criminal Network but falls into the trap of white vs black vs jews vs mexicans etc, would he make a good guest? or should he be totally ignored including all his writings?

I'm calling bollock on this case,  how about grilling this guy on his pointless infighting and divide and conquer nonsense or you have IMHO a second possibility, the HHQ way of totally ignoring this guy. This is not an easy one to deal with so please think before you post on this particular point.

Anyway as it stands, this place TiU is a 50-50 equal partnership between HHQ & myself and we'll have the final say. So as you TiU members can read, we don't agree on everything and I think that best, however HHQ made some very valid points that need addressing and I hope I did as well.

Og

[Anonymous]

HHQ, I agree with your concerns and reservations in regards to your absence.  

However, there is another side to that coin, calling a spade a spade (no racial slur intended).  

The crippling inability to label the actual criminals is one of the main reasons our country is in the precarious place it is.  Now, let me say, loudly, that I do not believe that "every single Jew" in the U.S. is a criminal or even complacent with what their mother country, Israel, is doing.  Absolutely not!  And if that be true then they should be speaking up, very loudly at this point.  Is not that the reason that many Jews immigrated to America?  That they would not be singled out because of their faith?  

Those in the know are highly aware that our country is being run by "Zionists."  But, what are zionists?  They are first and foremost, Jews.  Naming them as such does not indicate that the whole entire Jewish race is being called on the carpet, only those that are responsible or complacent with the destruction of America.  If the criminals were of any other faith such as Baptists, Methodists, etc., then no one would be as concerned, but due to the delicate victimization created by Jews seems to necessitate that "some in their fold" could not possibly be involved in anything so heinous as the overthrow of a country.

All of us are Americans, disregarding faith, race or ethnicity, which is where I hail from.  I want to help stop the people responsible, or at least, shed a very big spotlight on their crimes, for destroying our great Republic, which was meant for EVERYONE, even if that means identifying them as Jews since the known criminals' only interests are Judaizing America.    

This is where I stand, doggedly, and if that indicates that I am no longer welcome here then I shall move on.

[joeblow]

This is where I stand, doggedly, and if that indicates that I am no longer welcome here then I shall move on.

From all your posts, that I have read, it would be a great loss here. Let's always try to be at least as pleasent and forgiving to each as our enimies are too each other. Remember, it's just a forum and not to take what happens here too seriously, I get attacked all the time!

[sullivan]

As such, I am putting out an amiable and democratic call to the Info Underground massive to right this ship and begin to put the investigatory focus back on track. True criminal detection that allows the evidence to speak and lead, to the dogged pursuit of truth and justice. Rather than have prejudice and subjectivity take the lead to jaundice proper investigations.

You make a very good point. Even for those with the best of intentions, it is all too easy to jump to conclusions.  I know, as I have done it. Looking back over twenty or so years dealing (on and off) with these issues, and particularly the last five or six years, I can see why. Every time I set myself the task of uncovering who was behind some nasty trend in society, whether it be the promotion of global governance,  the weakening of the concepts of family, community, society or nation, the proliferation of drugs or the scourge of pornography, 99% of the time it boiled down to 'the usual suspects'. However, I would never for a moment entertain the notion that just because 'the usual suspects' are more often than not Jewish, that all Jewish people are 'the usual suspects'.  

I am NOT advocating any refrain from pursuing crimes of Zionists and other criminals who use Judaism as a shield. What I am saying is stick to cases we can prove with evidence and not conjecture or hearsay, and also keep things in their proper perspective. If we call out Jew on every bloody thing without due proof we look insipid and obsessive and are viewed and dismissed as a forum that is limited. Think proactively that you are presenting cases to members who may not have the same level of knowledge as most of us, who come here seeking both camaraderie and truth found no where else.

I've said the same thing over on WUFYS on occasion. It is very easy, in the name of free speech, for an otherwise vital information resource to become a platform for repugnant viewpoints, for it to descend into infighting, both of which are off-putting to any newcomer.  Even if that doesn't happen, public forums can often become clogged with what are effectively personal conversations that mean nothing to many of the old hands on the forum, so what chance do newcomers have?  It is far too easy to forget that we are not writing only to discuss amongst ourselves, but for a wider and vitally important audience.

The current pursuit has cost us valuable allies who you may or may not have noticed have slowly been retracting their support. It also costs us in potential Jewish allies who maybe sincerely looking to join up, stand and fight by our side. I know if I was a progressive Jewish person I wouldn't feel comfortable at all coming to the forum, because I'd always be wondering if there wasn't some covert hatred of me. Take a look most objectively and see if this is not the case. We need every sincere infowarrior regardless of ethnicity, race, religious belief and male or female gender that can be mustered to this dogged fight for justice. Those who believe otherwise are living and propagating the indoctrination of our enemy and are absolutely shit useless to any progressive struggle.

I agree totally, but I should point out that although individual Jewish people should never, ever be held accountable for the wrongdoings of their fellow Jews, there are aspects of Jewish culture and faith that act as an enabler for the Zionist mindset, and these need to be challenged. In particular, I refer to the notion of a chosen people and the nature of the writings Talmud. The emphasis on the Talmud which is common to the vast majority of religious Jews is seed from which Zionist notions of super-humanness grow. Even non-religious Jewish people will have been exposed to its vile doctrines at some stage in their lives and that can leave its mark. For those who want to escape the clutches of this all-controlling set of doctrines, there are a whole raft of sanctions to ensure they don't.   For instance, long before the mafia dreamed up the idea of omerta

[cw10304]

My thing is if your breaking the law you have to be punished and exposed period regardless if your white, Black, Mexican, Arab, Jew, Zionist, read the talmud, read the bible, read tabloids,believe people are cows, believe people are lizards or what ever. If you are engaged in criminal activity you needs to be exposed and punished.

The key thing here is these people are breaking the law and it is hurting all of us. I mean those neo-cons in the pentagon were manufacturing false info to instigate war for god sake! they are war criminals I could care less if they study talmud,Kabbala, hinduism, or whatever.

People could get to caught up in this illuminati, zionist, new world order, CIA, talumd stuff and lose sight that these people just refuse to abide by any laws and think they can do as they see fit.

Yea you could believe that you are "elite" and your bringing in a new order to the world, or your fullfilling prophecy or all jews are human all non jews are cattle, thats great for you. But when you start killin people and defrauding and manipulating people's lives and breaking the law and shit that shit is unacceptabe and you need to put in jail like any body else.

[MikeWB]

HHQ, how about some examples of what you don't agree with on this forum? This would help a lot.

[blueocean]

Maybe a tip when interviewing people with certain 'racist'  tendencies or other questionable ethics.:

do the same as DBS does: give disclaimers before and after the show, and maybe even during the show when necessary confront the person on it.  DBS/OG-style  

[gracewill]

There are those who will say I'm avoiding the issue, but being comfortable with your surroundings, especially a collaborative one where 5 persons contribute 95% of the work is very important.

...everyone who has worked in an office cubicle know, its relatively quiet when you arrive, coffee steaming on the desk, the odd phone starts to ring, chatter begins as other coworkers arrive, the blowhard starts yelling by the water cooler about some stupid TV show or his escapades at the pub the night before, then the divorcee arrives, having poured on a gallon of especially offensive smelling dime-store perfume on her size 16 frock, suddenly you start to think why the f*ck are you tolerating such an environment, are you anti-social, should you try for a  corner office ... then you realize sh*t its just work

Whereas HHQ, Og and company have been kind enough to create and invite us to this collaborative environment, where persons, that which is right, and community are valued above all else.

Say "they", "illuminated ones", "bankers" , "13 bloodlines", and as constantly stressed in the forums when possible name names... everyone smart enough to get to this forum is also smart enough to know what "they" means

This is a pretty simple request from HHQ that takes nothing of value away from TIU, maybe even we can get Og to start saying illuminazi

[MikeWB]

This is a pretty simple request from HHQ that takes nothing of value away from TIU, maybe even we can get Og to start saying illuminazi

I guess this cuts to the issue. HHQ prefers this nonsensical term that's just yet another distraction in the same vein as "illuminati", "german death cult", "globalists" etc. If we can't call a spade spade, what's the point?! I know that facing the reality is tough but I doubt anyone here can start pretending they don't know the truth.

[Anonymous]

it's still very problematic that we don't have to make disclaimers and do apologetics for other ethnic/religious groups, only "them"

but here's an interesting discussion on my forum about this:

http://www.khanverse.com/phorum/viewtop ... f=32&t=556

still what I think:

I disagree, it's (jew) not the most accurate identifier...

Zionist is more accurate in this age than anything else.

The Jews in Iran/Yemen/Sudan/Morrocco etc are not my enemy as far as I can tell.

The white zionist ashkenazi jews with lots of money and power who wield it in a disturbingly deliberate & harmful way to the detriment of others are the enemies of mankind and of God.  The zionist christians are a huge problem as well.  So are puppet selfish dictators in the rest of the world.  And evil people of every ethnic group/religion/culture/region as well.

People who say dumb stuff like that limit their understanding historically as well as today...

And I'm not scared to say any of those things.  I say them all the time but It turns off our thought when we think like that.

[stoker]

Wow I don't know where to start. HHQ does good research and has plenty of facts. Let me say that once fallen down the rabbit hole, there are many levels to it. When you understand the Germanic death cults are responsible for much of our problems today that

[stoker]

I guess this cuts to the issue. HHQ prefers this nonsensical term that's just yet another distraction in the same vein as "illuminati", "german death cult", "globalists" etc. If we can't call a spade spade, what's the point?! I know that facing the reality is tough but I doubt anyone here can start pretending they don't know the truth.

I used that term in jest to refer to this post not to mention the J word.

[stoker]

* DISCLAIMER *
I'm about to say something very unpopular and I'm a AJ listener.
On the day of the Israeli attack on America, BC was talking about how courageous the "hijackers were". Doesn't this contradict the "BC knew and warned people about 9/11 before AJ" thing? Also, AJ says that BC did swear on his show, but AJ bleeped it out.

AJ had a time delay to bleep that out back then but not one to bleep his own fuck you to Mike aka prothink or just recently the show with Makow. Think not.

Hey A JOB lover why have you not responded to this post?

[Hei Hu Quan]

MikeWB said:

HHQ prefers this nonsensical term that's just yet another distraction in the same vein as "illuminati", "german death cult", "globalists" etc. If we can't call a spade spade, what's the point?! I know that facing the reality is tough but I doubt anyone here can start pretending they don't know the truth.

Are you drunk or just like taking an opportunity to twist my fucking words. This is shocking coming from you Mike and you should know much better than throwing some shit like that in my direction. My explanation is exactly as I wrote it, there's no esoteric meanings to suss out of it. If people want to stupidly assume what they "think" I say they can write a total script for themselves that includes false statements and conjecture. Rubbish like that just firms my commitment that I am making the right decision and have created a Frankenstein. Fuck it all I'm gone, enjoy the road of fools, it's a tactical error in strategy that I'm not stupid enough to follow. Mark my words you'll see the folly and mistake that cannot be undone.

Good fucking bye.

[joeblow]

* DISCLAIMER *
I'm about to say something very unpopular and I'm a AJ listener.
On the day of the Israeli attack on America, BC was talking about how courageous the "hijackers were". Doesn't this contradict the "BC knew and warned people about 9/11 before AJ" thing? Also, AJ says that BC did swear on his show, but AJ bleeped it out.

AJ had a time delay to bleep that out back then but not one to bleep his own fuck you to Mike aka prothink or just recently the show with Makow. Think not.

Hey A JOB lover why have you not responded to this post?

JOB lover? Do I like to work? Yes, actually I do. Hmm stoker, take a look at other posts and you'll see I'm usually not an Internet Tough Guy and you shouldn't take what's said on a forum so seriously. The most obivious reason that it wasn't bleeped out was because it was his first "Internet only" show and they hadn't set up the delay yet. Even the following shows were very interesting since everyone could be heard.

Remember we should try to be as pleasent and forgiving as our enimies are to each other.

[gracewill]

Holy 'gracewill f*cked up' Batman,

My post was meant to be conciliatory, now I fear i in part have caused the exact opposite to what i intended.

I have also learned from previous HHQ posts to make no personal comments about him -- fair enough

So then i will make a personal appeal to HHQ ( in pinyin its wuweierzhi )
assuming only that he knows a little chinese as do I

Be the Boss, instead of quitting enforce your will.
Copy the phorums at Khanverse and start at THEY/THEM topic
... but by all means don't leave, your the boss you don't have too

( PS I apologize in advance if my actions have caused undue strain to Og, MikeWB or any other senior member)

[Milton]

MikeWB said:

HHQ prefers this nonsensical term that's just yet another distraction in the same vein as "illuminati", "german death cult", "globalists" etc. If we can't call a spade spade, what's the point?! I know that facing the reality is tough but I doubt anyone here can start pretending they don't know the truth.

Are you drunk or just like taking an opportunity to twist my fucking words. This is shocking coming from you Mike and you should know much better than throwing some shit like that in my direction. My explanation is exactly as I wrote it, there's no esoteric meanings to suss out of it. If people want to stupidly assume what they "think" I say they can write a total script for themselves that includes false statements and conjecture. Rubbish like that just firms my commitment that I am making the right decision and have created a Frankenstein. Fuck it all I'm gone, enjoy the road of fools, it's a tactical error in strategy that I'm not stupid enough to follow. Mark my words you'll see the folly and mistake that cannot be undone.

Good fucking bye.

Wait, don't go HHQ. Lets define our terms. We can be concise and precise. Some will see the point right off, others will see it later. But the point is to point. We are trying to define the global criminal ruling class, they are composed of central bankers and other corporate psychos. This forum is a starting point, lets not let it go to pieces.

[MikeWB]

MikeWB said:

HHQ prefers this nonsensical term that's just yet another distraction in the same vein as "illuminati", "german death cult", "globalists" etc. If we can't call a spade spade, what's the point?! I know that facing the reality is tough but I doubt anyone here can start pretending they don't know the truth.

Are you drunk or just like taking an opportunity to twist my fucking words. This is shocking coming from you Mike and you should know much better than throwing some shit like that in my direction. My explanation is exactly as I wrote it, there's no esoteric meanings to suss out of it. If people want to stupidly assume what they "think" I say they can write a total script for themselves that includes false statements and conjecture. Rubbish like that just firms my commitment that I am making the right decision and have created a Frankenstein. Fuck it all I'm gone, enjoy the road of fools, it's a tactical error in strategy that I'm not stupid enough to follow. Mark my words you'll see the folly and mistake that cannot be undone.

Good fucking bye.

So what is this "IllumiNazi" you want us to now research? I respect you as a researcher but you clearly need to introspect a little bit and see how YOU are wrong and not the rest of us. Google on "IllumiNazi" reveals few links and they're coming mostly from bullshitters who claim SATANISTS are running things.

You speak of "alliances" we could have formed... what alliances? With whom? We've formed alliances with likes of Prothink and Khanverse and with Rys of Anti-Neocons to a smaller degree. Who do you want us to form alliances with? You think we can from alliances with people who are afraid of a Zionists and don't like that we mention that name? To what purpose would that alliance lead to?

I hope you realize the nature and the magnitude of the threat we're dealing with. Even more pussyfooting and inventing even more bullshit labels isn't gonna help people who have grown enough to realize what it's about.

It's 5 minutes before midnight and we need more clarity, not more indirections. US financial system is about to implode and there will be mass riots on the streets and massive unrests. People will be again manipulated into two camps (Pro and Anti camps) and they will be led astray by their agents just like they're being "woken up" today by their agents. There's no more time left to beat around the bush when laying blame.

I'm sad to see you go but please rethink your position.

[Ognir]

Well it's a sad evening for me as I've lost my radio partner in crime but this started 2 weeks ago and I was hoping it wouldn't end like this. HHQ has taken a different path and I wish you well buddy and thanks for all your efforts.

I'm downgrading HHQ to a user and he is most welcome to post here in the future.

Og

[stoker]

Well it's a sad evening for me as I've lost my radio partner in crime but this started 2 weeks ago and I was hoping it wouldn't end like this. HHQ has taken a different path and I wish you well buddy and thanks for all your efforts.

I'm downgrading HHQ to a user and he is most welcome to post here in the future.

Og

Wow I don't know where to start. HHQ does good research and has plenty of facts. Let me say that once fallen down the rabbit hole, there are many levels to it. When you understand the Germanic death cults are responsible for much of our problems today that

[Ognir]

This was an open thread, what was said here, stays here
Opinions were asked for and that's what we got

[youtube:2n8oxwnt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6dLCpH7XNA[/youtube]2n8oxwnt]
Zionism Isn't Judaism?
Mike From Prothink

[THE AQUARIAN 1]

MikeWB said:

HHQ prefers this nonsensical term that's just yet another distraction in the same vein as "illuminati", "german death cult", "globalists" etc. If we can't call a spade spade, what's the point?! I know that facing the reality is tough but I doubt anyone here can start pretending they don't know the truth.

Are you drunk or just like taking an opportunity to twist my fucking words. This is shocking coming from you Mike and you should know much better than throwing some shit like that in my direction. My explanation is exactly as I wrote it, there's no esoteric meanings to suss out of it. If people want to stupidly assume what they "think" I say they can write a total script for themselves that includes false statements and conjecture. Rubbish like that just firms my commitment that I am making the right decision and have created a Frankenstein. Fuck it all I'm gone, enjoy the road of fools, it's a tactical error in strategy that I'm not stupid enough to follow. Mark my words you'll see the folly and mistake that cannot be undone.

Good fucking bye.

So what is this "IllumiNazi" you want us to now research? I respect you as a researcher but you clearly need to introspect a little bit and see how YOU are wrong and not the rest of us. Google on "IllumiNazi" reveals few links and they're coming mostly from bullshitters who claim SATANISTS are running things.

You speak of "alliances" we could have formed... what alliances? With whom? We've formed alliances with likes of Prothink and Khanverse and with Rys of Anti-Neocons to a smaller degree. Who do you want us to form alliances with? You think we can from alliances with people who are afraid of a Zionists and don't like that we mention that name? To what purpose would that alliance lead to?

I hope you realize the nature and the magnitude of the threat we're dealing with. Even more pussyfooting and inventing even more bullshit labels isn't gonna help people who have grown enough to realize what it's about.

It's 5 minutes before midnight and we need more clarity, not more indirections. US financial system is about to implode and there will be mass riots on the streets and massive unrests. People will be again manipulated into two camps (Pro and Anti camps) and they will be led astray by their agents just like they're being "woken up" today by their agents. There's no more time left to beat around the bush when laying blame.

I'm sad to see you go but please rethink your position.

You have a need to change things and wake people up but you're using the tactics they laid out for you.  You're calling them names based on religion and race.  It makes no sense.  Is there a Jewish element?  Yes.  Is it all pervasive?  No.  Should I be wary of anyone who calls themself a Jew?

Mike?  Should I be wary of anyone who calls themself a Jew?

I think you need to ask yourself that.  Cause if you truly believe what you're spewing, that these people are not really Jews, they're converts, they're Ashkenazis, then you shouldn't be calling them Jews, should you?  That name is incorrect.  You calling them Jewish HELPS THEM!!

They are the ones that continue to pull the "Anti-Semitism" card out of their ass every single time their names are mentioned in a negative light.  That's extremely powerful.  They can deflect absolutely ANY criticism with that Joker card.  You can't fuck with it.  It's extremely powerful.  The holocaust is not something that is going to be forgotton.  It is forever embedded in the world subconscious.  And shit DID go down in World War II.  There was an anti-Jewish element and a lot of people were murdered and tortured because of their political, religious, and racial views of the world.  That did happen.  You can't deny that.

There is a Jewish element.  I think mostly everyone agrees, or so it seems.  The Italian mafia is structured like the Jewish mafia.  So are a lot of occult groups like Freemasonry.  The Jewish element is huge.  No denying it.

But so is the Christian element.  I would bet that a lof of people on this forum are Christian.  I would also bet that a lot of people on this forum believe in the prophecies written in the book of Revelations.  Most of the people following Alex Jones are of the same ilk.  

There is also an Islamic element.  This thing is not profoundly Ashkenazi and Jewish.  This thing encompasses all of humanity and the force of the Earth as a whole.  Do not forget that.

Yours,

THE AQUARIAN 1

[Ognir]

As I said, this is an open thread, get it off your chest and let's move on

[THE AQUARIAN 1]

Umm, the post is there, you can read it, this is not something you "move on" from.  It's something you figure out.

Yours,

THE AQUARIAN 1

[joeblow]

Since this is an open thread, allow me to state my position on the Jew. For the sake of peace and keeping HHQ here (I am really, really going to miss the Ognir/HHQ team, that's the reason I came here!) I was prepared to tone down my message concerning the New Jew Order, but now that he has signaled that, hopefully only for the time being, he will not take part in discussion and/or productions, I will recomence the raging anti-Talmudism that you have had the pleasure of expirencing.

They say "Don't blame all Jews, it's only the Ashkenazi!", sadly friend you are misstaken. Who converted the Ashkenzai, was it not the Mizrahi (Non-Middle Easterners always get this wrong, Sephardi means Jew from Spain not the Middle East)? Over 85% of modern Jewry is Ashkenazi (meaning Jew from Germany) and it is completely valid to lump them in with anyone who whorships the Talmud (they don't care about the Torah). When I lived in Texas, we called all Hispanics Mexicans (no offense to LAV), because most Hispanics there had Mexican ancestry.

Why should we feel guilty when it's THEIR community that is at fault? The American economy is about to crash and soon (Dear God make it sooner!) the average Joe Blow, who would never say what truly was on his mind "for fear of the Jew", will riot in the street and I can garantee you that not a few synagoues and temples shall taste the flame of freedom. For THEIR own sake, THEY should be demonstrating in public against It's-a-lie and the Zionazis, when it comes to promoting degenracy and communism, they show how quite able they are to make their opinions heard.

No, no, my compartiot in arms, lose the guilt, it was indoctrinated into you by Talmudvision. Lose the fear, you learned it in the Government Re-education Camps (schools). Lose the confusion, you drink it in Fluoridated water. Our day is not coming, it's already here, no more mistakes, no more failures, this time it's our very existence at stake.

[sullivan]

I think you need to ask yourself that.  Cause if you truly believe what you're spewing, that these people are not really Jews, they're converts, they're Ashkenazis, then you shouldn't be calling them Jews, should you?  That name is incorrect.  You calling them Jewish HELPS THEM!!

True, the vast majority of them were converts, going back over 1100 years ago. It means nothing, other than they are not truly Jewish. It is worth noting that it was the Sephardic community in Amsterdam who effectively manipulated the British Royal Family into setting up the Bank of England, in order to finance Britain's ongoing conflicts and colonial ambitions, so they are far from blameless.

They are the ones that continue to pull the "Anti-Semitism" card out of their ass every single time their names are mentioned in a negative light.  That's extremely powerful.  They can deflect absolutely ANY criticism with that Joker card.  You can't fuck with it.  It's extremely powerful.

No, it is not. It is rapidly losing its power, because it is succumbing to the "boy who cried wolf" effect.

The holocaust is not something that is going to be forgotton.  It is forever embedded in the world subconscious.

Sorry, but it is not embedded.  It is rammed down our throats by a predominantly Jewish-controlled media.

And shit DID go down in World War II.

Shit goes down in every war.

There was an anti-Jewish element

Of course there was. The world Jewish community had declared economic war on Germany and had brought it to its knees. Of course not all the Jewish people in Germany were responsible for that, and perhaps not even a majority, but as ever in these situations, the innocent suffer and the guilty generally don't.

and a lot of people were murdered and tortured because of their political, religious, and racial views of the world.  That did happen.  You can't deny that.

A lot of people did suffer. Gypsies, Poles, French, Russians, Jewish.  Lots of people.  Why turn the suffering of just one of those groups of people into a religion?

There is a Jewish element.  I think mostly everyone agrees, or so it seems.

It is more than just 'a Jewish element'.

The Italian mafia is structured like the Jewish mafia.

Actually, it isn't. The Italian mafia is based around extended families. The Jewish mafia isn't necessarily.  The cosa nostra started as an underground reaction against abusive and violent Sicilian landlords. It wasn't until the early 1900's that it truly started becoming the crime syndicate that it currently is.  The same can't be said for the Jewish mafia. About the only thing they have in common is they both have similar vows of silence,  omert