HHQ - EXPLANATION OF MY RECENT HIATUS

[Anonymous]

I don't need to start a new thread to respond to your comment.  It's not that complicated and it doesn't take a 'respected scholar' to understand it.  For one thing, I'm sure you've heard of SAUDI ARABIA.  For another, there are plenty of Islamic people, on the ground in Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan, killing innocent people.  You don't think there are deceptive people from Islam?  And yes, go ahead and site Saddam Hussein.  There is no justification for killing innocent people.  I don't care if you think he was a puppet or not.

Exactly what I expected.

So someone from every group commits evil acts thus we are ALL responsible for this state of the world? Even if the impetus for the evil for the vast majority are circumstances and conditions, overwhelmingly, poverty ENACTED by your Khazar buddies?

Wow, how utterly rediculous.

Does anyone practice usurious fractional reserve central banking except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate media except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate pornography except Zio-Khazars?

Are the MAJORITY of world's billionaires, anything except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate the sex slavery/child prostitution rings except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate the instigation of war for the last couple centuries except Talmudic Khazars?

How many more of these do you want me to cite?

Site the creation of Israel and the theft and murder of people and their land, and I will agree with you.  This is a cause for war.  But it's not as simple as 'every Israeli on the Earth should be killed.'  And it's not as simple as saying, 'there is only an Ashkenazi and Jewish element' to this problem.  BULL-FUCKING-SHIT.  That's fucking lazy.  It makes things a lot easier for you to do that.

Strawman.

There is no justification for killing innocent people

Strawman & Red Herring

You don't think there are deceptive people from Islam?

Strawman.

And, Khanverse, there is a black element, there is every element to this.  You're barking up the wrong tree if you think calling out THE JEWS is going to make any fucking difference.  No one is going to listen to that argument because it's not fucking true and it makes you sound like a bigot.

There is no black element.

Show me a 'black' person who owns a central bank.
Show me a 'black' person who has instigated a war and funded both sides.
Show me a 'black' person who has blackmailed a politician to commit treasonous acts
Show me a 'black' person or people who dominate(s) media/porn/medicine/
Show me a 'black' person or people who have enslaved and killed HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of whites or tens of MILLIONS of native 'indians'
Show me a 'black' person who can put you in prison for questioning the 100 MILLION+ africans MURDERED in the slave trade!
Show me a 'black' domination of the drug trade or sex slavery...

Your 'argument' is laughable, everyone in this thread is pulling the false myths your worldview is based on out from under you...

If someone in my huge family commits a crime, then there is a 'Khan' "element" in crime

but if Goldberg or Greenstein or Silversatanman's families ARE ALL criminals, their DOMINATION of crime has nothing to do with the family and it is ONLY an "element" not to be distinguished from the 'khan element'

This is what you're proposing.  It would be funny it wasn't so totally rediculous and pathetic...

Are you a suburban white boy by any chance?

I'd like to see you defend both of those comments in a new thread with links and explanation.

[Ognir]

[THE AQUARIAN 1]

First off, "rediculous" is not a word.  Secondly, you started using strawman arguments, not me:

And please don't insult our intelligence by referring to Saddam Hussein or other puppet dictators as the "islamic" element because okie dokes exist in every culture, people who will sell out their own for personal gain...

Just cuz Conned us Leeza is black doesn't mean there is a "black" element.

Making up nicknames for people is retarded.

Exactly what I expected.

So someone from every group commits evil acts thus we are ALL responsible for this state of the world? Even if the impetus for the evil for the vast majority are circumstances and conditions, overwhelmingly, poverty ENACTED by your Khazar buddies?

My point, at the beginning of all of this, was to point out that JEWS are not the problem.  And not all people from Khazaria are evil . . . are they KHANVERSE?  Does being from Khazaria automatically make you evil?  Dude, I understand that a lot of these people are Khazaria Jews.  Nobody is arguing that.  

Does anyone practice usurious fractional reserve central banking except Zio-Khazars?

Umm, try the entire fucking world, save Iran, North Korea, Syria, Sudan, and Cuba.

Does anyone dominate media except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate pornography except Zio-Khazars?

Are the MAJORITY of world's billionaires, anything except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate the sex slavery/child prostitution rings except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate the instigation of war for the last couple centuries except Talmudic Khazars?

Those are some big britches claims, please cite your sources and your referencs.

How many more of these do you want me to cite?

Only the ones you're willing to prove, to the best of your ability.

Site the creation of Israel and the theft and murder of people and their land, and I will agree with you.  This is a cause for war.  But it's not as simple as 'every Israeli on the Earth should be killed.'  And it's not as simple as saying, 'there is only an Ashkenazi and Jewish element' to this problem.  BULL-FUCKING-SHIT.  That's fucking lazy.  It makes things a lot easier for you to do that.

Strawman.

The point is made by the above.  Strawman or not, if you choose to leave it without responding you are accepting it to be a correct evaluation of your current political opinions.

You don't think there are deceptive people from Islam?

Strawman.

Well?  Are there?  That's a direct question.  

And, Khanverse, there is a black element, there is every element to this.  You're barking up the wrong tree if you think calling out THE JEWS is going to make any fucking difference.  No one is going to listen to that argument because it's not fucking true and it makes you sound like a bigot.

There is no black element.

Show me a 'black' person who owns a central bank.
Show me a 'black' person who has instigated a war and funded both sides.
Show me a 'black' person who has blackmailed a politician to commit treasonous acts
Show me a 'black' person or people who dominate(s) media/porn/medicine/
Show me a 'black' person or people who have enslaved and killed HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of whites or tens of MILLIONS of native 'indians'
Show me a 'black' domination of the drug trade or sex slavery...

Your 'argument' is laughable, everyone in this thread is pulling the false myths your worldview is based on out from under you...

It's not a false myth that NOT ALL JEWS are criminals.  That's all I'm saying.  I never once said that there isn't a conspiracy of massive proportions involving people of Khazarian descent pretending to practice the Judaic religion.  Never once did I say that.  My pointing out a black element is to keep you from categorizing everything by race.  That's exacly what they want you to do.  They are the racists--NOT YOU.  They use race.  Why would you?  It makes no sense.  One race of people is not evil.  Evil is colorblind, my friend.  There are black people that are directly involved with this.  You said so yourself.

You need to stand back for a second and look at what you're saying.

If someone in my huge family commits a crime, then there is a 'Khan' "element" in crime

I don't know what this means.

but if Goldberg or Greenstein or Silversatanman's families ARE ALL criminals, their DOMINATION of crime has nothing to do with the family and it is ONLY an "element" not to be distinguished from the 'khan element'[/i]

Silver(satan)man?  I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to get at, but let me take a crack at it.  If Goldberg the Jew is a criminal, and his entire family is criminal, their domination of crime would have nothing to do with . . . their family?  Do you mean, their race?  If Goldberg the Jew is a criminal, and so are most of the people directly related to him, does that mean that everyone that is a Khazaria Jew is a criminal?  No.  It doesn't.

This is what you're proposing.  It would be funny it wasn't so totally rediculous and pathetic...

That's 'rediculous'?  I'm not sure I know what YOU are proposing I am proposing.

Are you a suburban white boy by any chance?

Are you a fucking nappysac douchebag?  What the hell does that matter?

I'd like to see you defend both of those comments in a new thread with links and explanation.

Just because you've asked me to, does not mean that I have to perform this task for you.  And, I don't think it's needed.  Use your brain.

However, if you would like to do some research, fine, I'll join you.

Yours,

THE AQUARIAN 1

[Ralph Furely]

man, your fucking retarded ive come to notice.  1st of all id like to say thanks to Sullivan, my new favorite member  :lol:
for dissecting your original post about the WW's n shit.  i was really excited once i came across his post, that i didnt have to do it.  
a lot of ridiculous(there now you have nothing to come back at me with) shit was said in there.  

anyway you sure are missing the point on this whole thing.  i knew that for sure after reading your 9/11 comment.  your just about wrong
in everything your saying, your missing the whole point.  i think your exactly whats wrong with this 'truth movement'.  your an apologist man.
dont you realize that?  just go back and read your posts man.  seriously.  you should do that.

the least you could get from this forum and this thread even, is that no one is saying in the least bit, 'every Israeli on the Earth should be killed.'  
the exact opposite is the case.  you are the one saying this.  you are making lots of stuff up in your head in fact.  but definitely you are the only
one not only saying this shit, but your implying this, that because we are identifying this certain group, then we are in fact saying its all of them and every israeli or
every jew must die.  no where in this forum can you find anything of the nature.  cuz im pretty sure no one feels that way and im also pretty sure
we are all intelligent enough to know this is a silly concept that makes no sense.  so just remember, you keep implying this against us.  

you think everyone is involved in this, because yea sure, everyoneis involved in it.  but your missing the point in that these 'deceptive ppl'
in every race arent really controlling shit, are they?  sure condi is there and bush is there, some jews, some christians, and so on.  but you just
cannot deny there seems to be one group who is controlling shit, right?  one could say they are controlling the other 'deceptive' type in all other races.  
condi is working for them, she is 'part' of it.  but is she running shit?  is her family? are black families?  who have been running shit for a long time?
hopefully you see what im getting at here cuz i really dont wanna go on and on to get this obvious point across.  
but then again, yous asking Khanverse to prove certain things are jewish dominated.  the ones he mentioned are fucking obvious.  what is your problem.  

and then after Khanverse had his way with you, you come back with insults and shit.  which was completely expected by everyone im sure.  whats that about?  

Just because you've asked me to, does not mean that I have to perform this task for you. And, I don't think it's needed. Use your brain.

you wont back up your shit, you just refused to.  basically saying mmno.  cuz you told me to, im not gonna.  i dont have to.  so there.  
awesome.  wtf.  

after the exchanges between you and the two i mentioned, its time to put up or shut up.  i see their points proven, i see yours left sailing
in the wind.  your coming back with shit like "making up names for people is retarded".  i know who comes back with shit like this.  do you?



sorry i said this in the thread i know more drama isnt needed, i just had to.  back on point, i really hope this will be just a temporary thing.
i think we need you HHQ here, so hopefully this gets sorted out soon.

peace

[blueocean]

Does anyone dominate media except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate pornography except Zio-Khazars?

Are the MAJORITY of world's billionaires, anything except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate the sex slavery/child prostitution rings except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate the instigation of war for the last couple centuries except Talmudic Khazars?

Those are some big britches claims, please cite your sources and your referencs.

this smal comment from the aquarion shows that he either doesn't know shit and didn't do any research to start with or basically he is a shill.   (leaning toward option number 2, for most people that come to this forum DID do the reserach and corroborate khanverse his statements with their own research and facts).

[THE AQUARIAN 1]

Why has the English language denigrated to such a degree that I can no longer decipher its meaning?

[kolnidre]

Why has the English language denigrated to such a degree that I can no longer decipher its meaning?

Maybe because it's degenerated so badly you feel denigrated?

Denigrate (verb)
1.   to speak damagingly of; criticize in a derogatory manner; sully; defame: to denigrate someone's character.
2.   to treat or represent as lacking in value or importance; belittle; disparage: to denigrate someone's contributions to a project.
3.   to make black; blacken: rain clouds denigrating the sky.

[Anonymous]

BLAHAHAHA!!!!

It always cute when the attempts to DENIGRATE others with condescending pedagoguery mess up in marvelous fashion.

His basic method is to accuse someone, overtly or subliminally, of something that was in no way, said or implied, to derail the discussion and diffuse points which he cannot counter.

For example:

And not all people from Khazaria are evil . . . are they KHANVERSE? Does being from Khazaria automatically make you evil?

But it's not as simple as 'every Israeli on the Earth should be killed.

I'm not wasting any more time with this cat.

"An old wise man said don't argue with fools,
cuz people at a distance can't tell who is who"

[joeblow]

BLAHAHAHA!!!!
His basic method is to accuse someone, overtly or subliminally, of something that was in no way, said or implied, to derail the discussion and diffuse points which he cannot counter.

That's because he's obviously a degenirate Talmudist, sometimes people ask me "You sound really smart sometimes, but you say crazy shit?!". Well I'm going to confess something, I've worked with Ashkenazi scum and I've actually taken a look at the Talmud (I keep a copy in my toilet bowl). He want's to shape the arguement (I won't let shim  :-P )and it's for this reason that this Jew troll avoids talking to me.

I'm going to write a basic essay on Talmudic debating techniques. If you want to learn Talmudic debating techniques, here's a good page-> http://www.uark.edu/depts/comminfo/sage/talmud.html

[gracewill]

we show one kink in our armour,
let our guard down for just a second,
and Aquaman:
- hijacks the thread and starts the name calling
- diverts from the main objective :headbang:

Post subject: Re: HHQ - EXPLANATION OF MY RECENT HIATUS
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:14 am

Ognir said   
Let's not get off on a tangent on this thread please. This was about HHQ and a difference of opinions with the directions of this forum. The forums will continue and the Prothink video should give you an idea of where I personally want it ...

Please just ignore him.
No value is added by his posts over the last two days

[Canard]

A lot of Jews know absolutely nothing about the Talmudic passages that you are referring to.  Even Zionist children, many do not know.  I know this because I have friends that were born and raised in Israel.  I can't tell you how many times I've been called an anti-semite for merely discussing Israel negatively.  Israelis are brainwashed from birth, no doubt about it.  Read WHAT PRICE ISRAEL to find a documented account of this.

That doesn't mean they're evil people.  That doesn't mean they're connected to the "Illuminati."  And it doesn't mean they necessarily believe they are better than anyone else.  What I think it means, and what many of you are going to come to realize, is that the "JEWS" are going to play a very important role in negotiating justice upon the wicked.  It would serve us better to embrace their psychosis and work to disrupt it instead of positing ourselves into an "us" versus "them" mentality which does not solve the problem, it only exaggerates an already existing one.  

If any sort of progress is going to be made, the Jewish culture and the Jewish people have to be a part of it.  I say that because there IS a Jewish element, so, in consequence, the voices of Jews would probably be the strongest.

Yours,

THE AQUARIAN 1

Well other then the 3 or 4 outcasts we endorse, theyre not exactly tripping over themselves to join the fight now are they?  Maybe we should wait a little bit longer, im sure they'll come knock on our door any day now.  :roll:

[Canard]

I don't need to start a new thread to respond to your comment.  It's not that complicated and it doesn't take a 'respected scholar' to understand it.  For one thing, I'm sure you've heard of SAUDI ARABIA.  For another, there are plenty of Islamic people, on the ground in Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan, killing innocent people.  You don't think there are deceptive people from Islam?  And yes, go ahead and site Saddam Hussein.  There is no justification for killing innocent people.  I don't care if you think he was a puppet or not.

Exactly what I expected.

So someone from every group commits evil acts thus we are ALL responsible for this state of the world? Even if the impetus for the evil for the vast majority are circumstances and conditions, overwhelmingly, poverty ENACTED by your Khazar buddies?

Wow, how utterly rediculous.

Does anyone practice usurious fractional reserve central banking except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate media except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate pornography except Zio-Khazars?

Are the MAJORITY of world's billionaires, anything except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate the sex slavery/child prostitution rings except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate the instigation of war for the last couple centuries except Talmudic Khazars?

How many more of these do you want me to cite?

Site the creation of Israel and the theft and murder of people and their land, and I will agree with you.  This is a cause for war.  But it's not as simple as 'every Israeli on the Earth should be killed.'  And it's not as simple as saying, 'there is only an Ashkenazi and Jewish element' to this problem.  BULL-FUCKING-SHIT.  That's fucking lazy.  It makes things a lot easier for you to do that.

Strawman.

There is no justification for killing innocent people

Strawman & Red Herring

You don't think there are deceptive people from Islam?

Strawman.

And, Khanverse, there is a black element, there is every element to this.  You're barking up the wrong tree if you think calling out THE JEWS is going to make any fucking difference.  No one is going to listen to that argument because it's not fucking true and it makes you sound like a bigot.

There is no black element.

Show me a 'black' person who owns a central bank.
Show me a 'black' person who has instigated a war and funded both sides.
Show me a 'black' person who has blackmailed a politician to commit treasonous acts
Show me a 'black' person or people who dominate(s) media/porn/medicine/
Show me a 'black' person or people who have enslaved and killed HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of whites or tens of MILLIONS of native 'indians'
Show me a 'black' person who can put you in prison for questioning the 100 MILLION+ africans MURDERED in the slave trade!
Show me a 'black' domination of the drug trade or sex slavery...

Your 'argument' is laughable, everyone in this thread is pulling the false myths your worldview is based on out from under you...

If someone in my huge family commits a crime, then there is a 'Khan' "element" in crime

but if Goldberg or Greenstein or Silversatanman's families ARE ALL criminals, their DOMINATION of crime has nothing to do with the family and it is ONLY an "element" not to be distinguished from the 'khan element'

This is what you're proposing.  It would be funny it wasn't so totally rediculous and pathetic...

Are you a suburban white boy by any chance?

I'd like to see you defend both of those comments in a new thread with links and explanation.

I knew I liked you.    Thanks for saving me the trouble with this bag of shit.

[Canard]

First off, "rediculous" is not a word.  Secondly, you started using strawman arguments, not me:

And please don't insult our intelligence by referring to Saddam Hussein or other puppet dictators as the "islamic" element because okie dokes exist in every culture, people who will sell out their own for personal gain...

Just cuz Conned us Leeza is black doesn't mean there is a "black" element.

Making up nicknames for people is retarded.

Exactly what I expected.

So someone from every group commits evil acts thus we are ALL responsible for this state of the world? Even if the impetus for the evil for the vast majority are circumstances and conditions, overwhelmingly, poverty ENACTED by your Khazar buddies?

My point, at the beginning of all of this, was to point out that JEWS are not the problem.  And not all people from Khazaria are evil . . . are they KHANVERSE?  Does being from Khazaria automatically make you evil?  Dude, I understand that a lot of these people are Khazaria Jews.  Nobody is arguing that.  

Does anyone practice usurious fractional reserve central banking except Zio-Khazars?

Umm, try the entire fucking world, save Iran, North Korea, Syria, Sudan, and Cuba.

Does anyone dominate media except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate pornography except Zio-Khazars?

Are the MAJORITY of world's billionaires, anything except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate the sex slavery/child prostitution rings except Zio-Khazars?

Does anyone dominate the instigation of war for the last couple centuries except Talmudic Khazars?

Those are some big britches claims, please cite your sources and your referencs.

How many more of these do you want me to cite?

Only the ones you're willing to prove, to the best of your ability.

Site the creation of Israel and the theft and murder of people and their land, and I will agree with you.  This is a cause for war.  But it's not as simple as 'every Israeli on the Earth should be killed.'  And it's not as simple as saying, 'there is only an Ashkenazi and Jewish element' to this problem.  BULL-FUCKING-SHIT.  That's fucking lazy.  It makes things a lot easier for you to do that.

Strawman.

The point is made by the above.  Strawman or not, if you choose to leave it without responding you are accepting it to be a correct evaluation of your current political opinions.

You don't think there are deceptive people from Islam?

Strawman.

Well?  Are there?  That's a direct question.  

And, Khanverse, there is a black element, there is every element to this.  You're barking up the wrong tree if you think calling out THE JEWS is going to make any fucking difference.  No one is going to listen to that argument because it's not fucking true and it makes you sound like a bigot.

There is no black element.

Show me a 'black' person who owns a central bank.
Show me a 'black' person who has instigated a war and funded both sides.
Show me a 'black' person who has blackmailed a politician to commit treasonous acts
Show me a 'black' person or people who dominate(s) media/porn/medicine/
Show me a 'black' person or people who have enslaved and killed HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of whites or tens of MILLIONS of native 'indians'
Show me a 'black' domination of the drug trade or sex slavery...

Your 'argument' is laughable, everyone in this thread is pulling the false myths your worldview is based on out from under you...

It's not a false myth that NOT ALL JEWS are criminals.  That's all I'm saying.  I never once said that there isn't a conspiracy of massive proportions involving people of Khazarian descent pretending to practice the Judaic religion.  Never once did I say that.  My pointing out a black element is to keep you from categorizing everything by race.  That's exacly what they want you to do.  They are the racists--NOT YOU.  They use race.  Why would you?  It makes no sense.  One race of people is not evil.  Evil is colorblind, my friend.  There are black people that are directly involved with this.  You said so yourself.

You need to stand back for a second and look at what you're saying.

If someone in my huge family commits a crime, then there is a 'Khan' "element" in crime

I don't know what this means.

but if Goldberg or Greenstein or Silversatanman's families ARE ALL criminals, their DOMINATION of crime has nothing to do with the family and it is ONLY an "element" not to be distinguished from the 'khan element'[/i]

Silver(satan)man?  I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to get at, but let me take a crack at it.  If Goldberg the Jew is a criminal, and his entire family is criminal, their domination of crime would have nothing to do with . . . their family?  Do you mean, their race?  If Goldberg the Jew is a criminal, and so are most of the people directly related to him, does that mean that everyone that is a Khazaria Jew is a criminal?  No.  It doesn't.

This is what you're proposing.  It would be funny it wasn't so totally rediculous and pathetic...

That's 'rediculous'?  I'm not sure I know what YOU are proposing I am proposing.

Are you a suburban white boy by any chance?

Are you a fucking nappysac douchebag?  What the hell does that matter?

I'd like to see you defend both of those comments in a new thread with links and explanation.

Just because you've asked me to, does not mean that I have to perform this task for you.  And, I don't think it's needed.  Use your brain.

However, if you would like to do some research, fine, I'll join you.

Yours,

THE AQUARIAN 1

2 point;

1. Iran, North Korea, Syria, Sudan, and Cuba <interesting list no?    No fractional Reserve Usury System and you go into the Axis of Evil!!!

2. As another poster on this board, Ill tell you it is needed, youll get no credibility on your stance as is and the best you can hope to do is save face and perhaps learn where you are wrong.  It;d be going far for me to assume I speak for everyone and told you that you are not welcome here, but you're certainly biased, have an agenda and are trying our patience.

[Ognir]

I find it hard to believe that HHQ is gone.. to be replaced (after a sort) by.. Sullivan? So it goes.

Sullivan didn't replace HHQ, no one has for the moment,  we just added 2 new Mods, Sullivan & Whitewraite as both don't talk shite or take it either

[Anonymous]

Those in the know are highly aware that our country is being run by "Zionists." But, what are zionists? They are first and foremost, Jews.

Initially they were Jews, but now many goyim are Zionists.  Just wanted to make that distinction friend

I would also like to say that I do not consider these criminals Jews, nor do I consider the atheistic Jews, as Jews.  A Jew is based on the religious aspect of the philosophy, not the racial aspect.  There are Ethiopian, Sephardic, Mizrahic and Ashkenazim Jews that negate the racial ideology.  The culture is associated with the religious aspect.  The Term Jew itself is flawed as it gives credence to a geographic epithet deriving from the word Judea.  If you consider a Jew to be racial, then only the true Semitic non-Khazarian blood relatives to be true Jews. This is where it gets complicated, as Sephardi initially meant "Spain", as in the Iberian peninsula, but can now be used to refer to the similar liturgy amongst the Mizrahim Jews, although they are a separate grouping of North African and Middle-Eastern origins. The Sephardi could have come from North Africa and be descendants of the original Hebrews, but they can also likely have a primary lineage tied into the Ashkenazim without having associations with the North-African/Middle-eastern (Palestine/Levant) geographic and genetic origins, thereby making the Sephardi term unreliable to associate with true geographic Semitic lineage.  

I used that term in jest to refer to this post not to mention the J word.

Hehe, you don't need to be refraining from identifying or using the term Jew.

Are you advocating justice based on race and religion? JoeBlo seems to be.

No he was not, he was saying how people will react that way when they get to the streets to enact the contrived anti-Semitic atmosphere these fake Jews desire.

Let me see if I understand this -the hate filled Torah(I am sure your leaving it out was an oversight)

True an important aspect.  But the Torah is not as vile and damaging in comparison to the Talmud.

Well Sullivan, what is your position on Christianity and thier Chosen people belief?

Not all Christians hold to that view, only some who see the "newer" religion as the next branch of true YHWH worship that the original Hebrews failed at complying with.  Those who use the strict definition that a Christian can only be one who accepts Jesus as the Lord, the saviour, and died for our sins so that we can get into heaven.  This ideology does indeed create a "chosen one" atmosphere.  I am not religious btw.

blueocean on Sun May 25, 2008 6:54 pm;
well said mate, thumbs up!  But reducing it to Zionist/Sionist is limiting the actual scope of those involved now and though history.  Without defining new/custom definitions for those two words, most would not understand the meaning intended when using these words.  Semantics is a complex but necessary progression in accurately agreeing on what a word means to two or more parties concerned.  Agreements must be made for everyone to be on the same page.

prothink on Sun May 25, 2008 6:57 pm;
I would have to differ on the conclusion that they are Jews.  And I would also like to add that even though many who label themselves as Jews and do not speak out, there are many goyim who do not speak out.  I choose to not call these people Jews as they are not Jews from my understanding of defining the word.  I could call myself a Jew and I wouldn't really be one, but because I do it forces everyone to call me my self-professed label based on false perceptions about the definition of the label I used?  That does not seem to "hold water" for me.

Calling them Zionists does not work either.

True it is limited, that is why it is hard and rather a waste of time to give the current criminals and past criminals in history a all encompassing term to refer to them.

When it involves the wholesale theft of land from the indigenous people, then it is at worst utterly criminal and at best tactic support for criminality.

Damn straight when they support the validity of stealing land to create their Jewish homeland they are advocating criminal behavior and actions, and continue to do so at present time by supporting evil actions.  If they do not know of the history or of the present crimes being perpetrated by Israel and the Zionists then they advocate criminal behavior without knowing it.  This is not to say they are criminals, but the ignorant advocation of criminals is not acceptable.

I would say that 'we' (hehe ) are known on the internet as the 'anti-zionist movement.'

as DBS says 4 years ago 7.000 hits on zionism and now more than 7 million. So........stick to the succesfulll brandname don't change a winning team

I would disagree with that.  I consider this more than just anti-Zionist.  That is just one part that limits the criminal elements.  Zionist definitions will exclude other elements of criminal leadership and therefore makes it another form of selective exclusion on par with political correctness to prevent accurate identification.


And fellow brethren (brothers and sisters), we don't need to be calling people bags of shit or any other such defaming words.  Let's keep it civil and respective, please...


To state my perception of current geo-political affairs:
People who call themselves Jews but are not, do exert a disproportionate amount of influence and control (domination) over virtually all sectors of society -- media (hollywood, tv, news, newspapers, publishing, pornography) and government to name the most relevant.  There are criminals of all races, and all should be brought to justice.  Focusing on identifying some as Jew over their actual crimes is not helping anything.  And I am not saying that is what is happening on a wide scale at all, I just want to make the point that this type of reasoning (or lack thereof) has popped up in some very few cases and I believe catching this flawed pattern of discussion is important at this early stage.  A Jew is religious (Torah) for me.  If they are not, then they are not a Jew and are merely using the label for whatever reason of evil or ignorance about themselves.  I will not give these criminals the associative grouping/label they want us to give them.  I won't get into the Torah religious philosophies that are not exactly "kosher" (haha, benevolent or good) at times, but will mention that the Torah/Old Testament is an important Holy Book for many Christians as well as the New Testament teachings.  Again, semantics plays an important role as people can interpret or have separate definitions for words, as when using certain words can give a different intention than what was intended by the creator of the statement when a reader reads them (i.e. my definition of a Jew is likely different than what others would call a Jew and thereby using the term can cause misinterpretations from the intended message given).

Let's all move on to an already/currently pro-active membership and just raise the bar of correctly identifying a criminal without necessarily making their grouping related to a religion or a race.  We know what we mean by using the term and how it doesn't mean all Jews, etc, etc, but for outsiders we are looking to gain respect- and support-from in our cause to fight evil, we come off as bigoted and prejudiced in some instances (few, not many, overall I find the posts very good).  They are criminals first in my book.  We can use these group associations to more quickly and accurately determine who these criminals initially might be, I am not expressing a view to prevent this type of investigation.  Call a spade a spade.  If the person calls themselves a Jew, fine, call them a Jew, but for me this is falling into their trap where they can use that term to extract and extort sympathy or empathy for any real or delusional hardship or persecution said group may have incurred.  We can either come to a consensus on what the term Jew means, or forget about that word altogether and call them criminals.  I think its better to accurately define words we use and use facts and rational thinking to agree or disagree on something (I am not saying those who don't think this way are not rational, no need for anyone to falsely imply me saying something in this case heheh, ask me about it).  Do we give up defining what a Jew is for the ease in using the term and applying it to certain peoples, or do we hash it out to determine what a Jew really is.  We can use the false term that has been created to identify them as they want to be identified, or we can correct years, decades, or centuries of historical and semantic inaccuracies and go from there.  So let's hash out what a Jew actually is... or let's try some other way of dealing with the issue presented.  I am open for anything and am only expressing my perceptions on how I see things.

I am sure some things can be interpreted differently than what I have intended to portray.  If anyone has objections to someones views (including my own), ask the person to elaborate on what they mean instead of falsely presuming or insinuating something the person never said or intended to imply, and then attack your falsely-created argument to look like you make more sense. (called a straw-man argument I believe...)

The issue on the thread (As I see it) is the overemphasis on the Jewish labeling (maybe I'm wrong) such as making a post for someone like Paula Abdul because she is Jewish... where is the information about here relating to an aspect of the overall plan to destroy us?  Whinehouse/Crackhouse can be expressed as further engendering an atmosphere that promotes drug use and influence the youth and non-youth alike in respecting this type of person as a role model, because drugs are cool, since the fact she uses crack seems to be paraded and flaunted (whereas Abdul's precription medication problem is not -- from my perception).  Does her drug use and fame have to do with being Jewish?  Maybe, but lets explain/prove that claim if it is true.  Just saying someone is Jewish to imply something really does not help in remaining non-prejudiced.


Peace

[blueocean]

I agree with azixx that a jew is one who follows the torah, I would/could also consider a person a jew if he is truly of that lineage (very very few).


a jew means: a judge/ a righteous one.



ps azixx I couldn't find my own qoute of:  'blueocean on Sun May 25, 2008 6:54 pm;'  that you mentioned  lol

[joeblow]

I agree with azixx that a jew is one who follows the torah, I would/could also consider a person a jew if he is truly of that lineage (very very few).


a jew means: a judge/ a righteous one.



ps azixx I couldn't find my own qoute of:  'blueocean on Sun May 25, 2008 6:54 pm;'  that you mentioned  lol

I hate to disagree with you, but I study linguistics in my spare time, especially Semitic languages.

Jew comes from the Hebrew Yahuudah. Yahuudah comes from the combination of odeh ? (praise) and Yaa ? (God), thus "praise God". It's all Jordan Maxwell's fault that people have been using nonsensical terminology.

[blueocean]

I agree with azixx that a jew is one who follows the torah, I would/could also consider a person a jew if he is truly of that lineage (very very few).


a jew means: a judge/ a righteous one.



ps azixx I couldn't find my own qoute of:  'blueocean on Sun May 25, 2008 6:54 pm;'  that you mentioned  lol

I hate to disagree with you, but I study linguistics in my spare time, especially Semitic languages.

Jew comes from the Hebrew Yahuudah. Yahuudah comes from the combination of odeh ? (praise) and Yaa ? (God), thus "praise God". It's all Jordan Maxwell's fault that people have been using nonsensical terminology.

I heard it somewhere, a while back............   Your explanation, I just looked up, is also on wikipedia.

I do know that all the fake jews don't praise god, they either praise Sat-an or their psychopathic selves.

[mastermg]

I will have to say that ALL true zionists supporters are supporters of terror, which makes them evil by definition. A real Sephardic, non-European, bloodline Jew that follows the Torah are excluded from the zionist evilness.

[kolnidre]

A real Sephardic, non-European, bloodline Jew that follows the Torah are excluded from the zionist evilness.

Agree with the sentiment. I think it's crucial to disarm Zionists of the tool of the anti-semitism(TM) weapon, and open eyes to the differences between true Torah Judaism and the satanic rabbinism/Talmudism, Judeo-Freemasonry that stole its identity. The treatment of true Torah Jews and Ethiopian Jews, who come from a lineage never exposed to the Talmud or Kabbalah, betrays the lies and corruptions of those impostors.

A linguistic nitpick about the above: wouldn't Sephardic Jews (the definition being coming from the Iberian Peninsula) be European? A more precise term might be Mizrahic Jews, although I understand that today's usage "Sephardim" has been expanded to broadly include all Jews of Ottoman or other Asian or African backgrounds, or all non-Ashkenazi Jews.

[Ognir]

Pick the odd word out here :

Talmudic
Criminal
Sheep
Khazar
Zionist
Orthodox

Stop beating around the bush ffs. The word is Jew whether you like it or not.

I'm going to try to get a few interviews with some *Jewish people* that are not part of the criminal kabbalah so I'm not going to add a disclaimer to this post. Shit we've been researching this issue for several years, anyone that says all Jews or all Blacks or all any group is the problem is a fuckin nutcase.

Og

[THE AQUARIAN 1]

Doing research for several years doesn't make you intelligent.  You're doing more harm than good.

Yours,

THE AQUARIAN 1

[Ognir]

According to you and you are ?

[stoker]

OG, if you approach conversing with anybody the way Prothink does you will be ok. I do think you take this approach from the interviews I've heard. When you bum rush, like AJS'  inarticulate minions do, they cast a tin foil hat mentality upon all  important questions that need to be  asked. Prothink is calm and removes this tin foil hat equation. He is clear, concise, and factual. That is the template in my opinion.
The way you stayed collected while doing the Leo Zig file proved that you also have this talent. Compared to AJ who does nothing but yell, shout, never let anybody finish a sentence.

[Ralph Furely]

Doing research for several years doesn't make you intelligent.  You're doing more harm than good.

Yours,

THE AQUARIAN 1

speaking of harm, each post you make in here is only harming yourself and the image you may wish to portray on this here board,
or in this here community.  
you have no room to speak at all after making the comments you made in here the other day.  seriously.  you have a long way to go
and it shows each time u strike a letter on your keyboard..
no one on here knows everything, but the shit thats been coming from you is a bit much.

[shZ]

Greetings all,
         As you may or may not know, I've taken a hiatus from the forum and radio show. My reasons are that I've been disappointed at the level of lop-sided Jewish obsession the forum has taken. Are there Jewish criminals and crimes? Of this there is no doubt, but I have heard from a number of concerned members who have expressed the same sentiment. I know for a fact that this present course is costing us in reputation, credibility and progressive alliances. In terms of strategy it is a blunder of absurd proportions as it virtually dissolves the base out from under us and thwarts what we are hoping to build. This forum was an initiative borne of making a difference and definitive change in terms of bold information dissemination. It was to be a beacon of information and a place for serious investigation of crimes against our survival by cowardly criminals who ply their hands in secret. Crimes that are felt well before they are known that go largely unchallenged by anyone, and thus allowed through compliance and silence.

I took the initiative to build the original forum and our new home here with the very capable cooperative assistance of Ognir, Eirewarrior, AZixX and Maragenie; with much respect to Rockclimber and MikeWB of whose contributions have been most outstanding. This vision was to provide a forum for investigation and pursuit of IllumiNazi criminals. I feel now that this direction has been lopsidedly been pushed to near obsession of all things Jewish. Those who know me by any measure know that I live my name and my word and that has always been my personal standard of excellence. Thus anything that appears on this forum or the radio as well as its direction we all must sign off to. I believe we must create a standard that addresses the minority of criminal Jews whilst not castigating all through general inference. Such as exposing the crimes of Nazis and the Mafia without castigating Italians and Germans. Using a bow & arrow approach instead of a wild shotgun. I have taken time to observe from an objective distance and this is what I as well as any new comer must see. If the masses read and chuck us out with the bathwater then our message has fallen to deaf ears and we have lost before we ever had a chance to win.

Needless to say I haven't felt comfortable for a little while signing my name off on the lop-sided direction, casual references that tacitly credit and associate with racialist bastards or slip-shod investigations that only invite derision and ridicule.

As such, I am putting out an amiable and democratic call to the Info Underground massive to right this ship and begin to put the investigatory focus back on track. True criminal detection that allows the evidence to speak and lead, to the dogged pursuit of truth and justice. Rather than have prejudice and subjectivity take the lead to jaundice proper investigations. I am NOT advocating any refrain from pursuing crimes of Zionists and other criminals who use Judaism as a shield. What I am saying is stick to cases we can prove with evidence and not conjecture or hearsay, and also keep things in their proper perspective. If we call out Jew on every bloody thing without due proof we look insipid and obsessive and are viewed and dismissed as a forum that is limited. Think proactively that you are presenting cases to members who may not have the same level of knowledge as most of us, who come here seeking both camaraderie and truth found no where else.

The current pursuit has cost us valuable allies who you may or may not have noticed have slowly been retracting their support. It also costs us in potential Jewish allies who maybe sincerely looking to join up, stand and fight by our side. I know if I was a progressive Jewish person I wouldn't feel comfortable at all coming to the forum, because I'd always be wondering if there wasn't some covert hatred of me. Take a look most objectively and see if this is not the case. We need every sincere infowarrior regardless of ethnicity, race, religious belief and male or female gender that can be mustered to this dogged fight for justice. Those who believe otherwise are living and propagating the indoctrination of our enemy and are absolutely shit useless to any progressive struggle.

Thus I have presented my case in the hopes of salvaging and moving  the forum forward. If you wish to pursue this present course, and continue down a self-destructive path then that is what is to be. But I will not be party to it and sign my name off on it. I am committed to the fight for truth, justice and security of true freedom. It's what I've always been about and why this is so important to me. Stay the path of the just, or tread a path of fools to be cast aside is the choice to be made.

Cheers and respect.

Good luck brother. I've always respected you and been in agreement with much of your views and convictions. Your absense saddens me... weather it's here or anywhere else (indirect reference). You have my support as a brother in arms in this struggle. Peace.

[Ognir]

Ended up having to reread all of this, so might as well bump it up

So 1 year, how are we doing?

[maz]

Intersting, I never knew that this was the reason for no more TIU shows with HHQ. It'd be good to have him back on and air this out.

[Jenny Lake]

HHQ,
I don't know you and haven't been here long, but I know that the fight we're all involved in is not going to won or lost on this forum. The level of "enemy" recognition here is above "cannon fodder". There are no manners in a real fight no matter how much you or I or anyone wishes to win by our wits. In my time as a participant at TIU, my own research has brought me to an understanding that we are in the most precarious and threatening battle we NEVER imagined. We're  fighting for our right to be HUMAN as well as survive. Do as you will sir. You sound intelligent and principled. Your enemies will delight in your demise, or your duplicity, whichever way you enfold. That goes for all of us. This forum may not be nearly as interesting to the public as you imagine and it will never be mainstream.

The battle lines were drawn by GWBush when he said "anyone who funds, harbors, gives aid or comfort"...that about sums up the scope of it to me. Anyone who realizes themselves to be "cannon fodder", of whatever race or religion, is welcome here as far as I'm concerned. The disingenous will show themselves to the members eventually and nothing comes without risk.

[celticwarrior]

I, too, would welcome HHQ's return and also welcome all jewish people with a righteous heart to come here and let their voice be heard;

but I concur with your views, Jenny

myself, Ognir and DBS are among many who have wondered: where are the righteous jews that we know are out there in thier millions, why don't they stand up, on forums like this and elsewhere, and declare their opposition to the evils committed in their name? Also, why don't proponents of these actions ever have the courage to come on and have a civilised, open debate with us ?

until members of both these groups do so, I'll go with Jenny's take on GWBush's statement and declare all who back these crimes enemies of humanity