Soncino Talmud - Most Complete Translation I've Seen Yet

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http://www.come-and-hear.com/tcontents.html

"Contents of the
Soncino Babylonian Talmud

TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH
WITH NOTES, GLOSSARY
AND INDICES

UNDER THE EDITORSHIP OF
RABBI DR. I. EPSTEIN

B.A., Ph.D., D. Lit.

FOREWORD BY
THE VERY REV. THE LATE CHIEF RABBI
DR. J. H. HERTZ

INTRODUCTION BY
THE EDITOR

THE SONCINO PRESS
LONDON
These are the Sederim ("orders", or major divisions) and tractates (books) of the Babylonian Talmud, as translated and organized for publication by the Soncino Press in 1935 - 1948. The tractates available on the Come and Hear web page are provided with hot links.

The English terms in italics are taken from the Introductions in the respective Soncino volumes. A summary of the contents of each Tractate is given in the Introduction to the Seder, and a detailed summary by chapter is given in the Introduction to the Tractate.

There are about 12,800 printed pages in the Soncino Talmud, not counting introductions, indexes, glossaries, etc. Of these, Come and Hear™ has put about 8050 pages on line, comprising about 1460 files — about 63% of the Soncino Talmud. However, this should in no way be considered a substitute for the printed edition, with the complete text, fully cross-referenced footnotes, a master index, an index for each tractate, scriptural index, rabbinical index, and so on. The sole purpose for the presentation of this text is to provide full context for the many things that are said and heard about the Talmud, and to invite further study."

+35 quotes below, some of which will be familiar to TIU'ers.

there's everything but a recipe for cannibalism, "how to cook non-Jews when survival requires".

yes, i know, don't want to give them any ideas for the next revision.

i wouldn't be surprised if there's a medical section that provides moral absolution to Jews that engage in organ-stealing.

good God Almighty, Talmudic & Zionist Jews are the most evil group of people i have ever heard about or even seen in a Hollywood movie.  in the face of Zionism, i would say that deliberations & debates about whether or not the Devil/ Lucifer actually exists are academic.  Full-blown Talmudic Judaism is so destructive towards non-Jews that it is the equivalent of a genuine Devil.

which i suppose would make Bibi Netanyahu the head Devil ?

did you see that asshole talking about how bad Iran is in his speech at the UN about a week ago ?


1. 'We beg Thee, 0 Lord, inflict Thy wrath on the nations not believing in Thee. Take away, 0 Lord, all hope from them. Destroy all foes of Thy nation.' -Synagaga Judaica, p. 212. Minhagen, p. 23. Crach Chain, 480 Magah.

2. 'The teachings of the Talmud stand above all other laws. They are more important than the laws of Moses.' -- Rabbi Issael, Rabbi Chasbar, et. al.

3. "The decisions of the Talmud are words of the living God. Jehovah Himself asks the opinion of the earthly rabbis when there are difficult affairs in heaven." -- Rabbi Menechen Commentary on Fifth Book-

4. "Jehovah Himself studies the Talmud standing, he has such respect for that book." -- Tract Mechillo.

5. "It is more wicked to question the words of the rabbis than those of the Torah." -- Michna Sanhedryn 11:3.

6. 'It is forbidden to disclose the secrets of the law. He who would do it would be as guilty as though he destroyed the whole world." -- Jektat Chadasz, 171, 3.

7. "Every goy who studies the Talmud and every Jew who helps him in it, ought to die.', --Sanhedryn, 59a, aboda Zora 8-6, Szagiga 13.

8. "To communicate anything to a goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the goyim knew what we teach about them they would kill us openly." -- Libbre David 37.

9. "If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death." -- Libbre David 37.

10. "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."--Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Via 17.

11. "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts.,, -- Saba Mecia 114, 6.

12. "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves." -- Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D.

13. "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night." -Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L.

14. "As soon as the King Messiah will declare himself, He will destroy Rome and make a wilderness of it. Thorns and weeds will grow in the Pope's palace. Then He will start a merciless war on non-Jews and will overpower them. He will slay them in masses, kill their kings and lay waste the whole Roman land. He will say to the Jews: 'I am the King Messiah for whom you have been waiting. Take the silver and gold from the goyim.' .. --Josiah 60, 6. Rabbi Abarbanel to Daniel 7, 13.

15. "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated." -- ..9boda Sarah 37a.

16. "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl." -- &ad. Shas. 2:2.

17. "A Jew may do to a non-Jewess what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat." --Hadarine, 20, B; Schulchan 9ruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348.

18. "A Jew may misuse the non-Jewess in her state of unbelief." -- Maimonides, Jak. Chasaka 2:2.

19. " IF a goy kills a goy or a Jew he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy he is NOT responsible." --Tosefta. 9boda Za,-a 8, 5.

20. "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."--Schuichan Qruch, Choszen Hajpiszpat jog

21. "Thou shalt not do injury to thy neighbor (Bible), but it is not said, 'Thou shalt not do injury to a Goy.' " -- Mishna Sanhedryn 57.

22. "When you go to war do not go as the First, but as the last, so that you may return as the first. Five things has Kanaan recommended to his sons: 'Love each other, love the robbery, hate your masters and never tell the truth.' " -- Pesachis F. 113B.

23. "A Jew is permitted to rape, cheat and perjure himself; but he must take care that he is not found out, so that Israel may not suffer." -- Schulchan Aruch, Jore Dia.

24. "A Jew may rob a goy - that is,.he may cheat him in a bill, if unlikely to be perceived by him." -Schalchan Arach, Choszen Hamiszpat 348.

25. "If a goy wants a Jew to stand witness against a Jew in a Court of Law, and if the Jew could give fair evidence, he is forbidden to do it; but if a Jew wants a Jew to be a witness in a similar case against a goy, he may do it." -- Schalchan .9ruch, Choszen Hasiszpat 28, Art. 3 and 4.

26. "Those who do not confess the Torah and the Prophets must be killed. Who has the power to kill them, let them kill them openly with the sword. if not, let them use artifices, till they are done away with." -- Schulchan Qruch. Choszon Haviszpat 425.5.

27. "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general' "--Schalchan arach. Choszen Hasisxpat 348.

28. "Should a Jew inform the goyish authorities that another Jew has much money, and the other will suffer a loss through it, he must give him emuneration."--Schalchan Oruch, Choszen Maipiszpat 388

29. 'How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."--Tosefta, Qbda Zara VIRZ, 5.

30. "On the house of the goy one looks as on the fold of cattle." -- Tosefta, Erabin VZZ, 1.

31. "All vows, oaths, promises, engagements, and swearing, which, beginning this very day or reconciliation till the next day of reconciliation, we intend to vow, promise, swear, and bind ourselves to fulfill, we repent of beforehand; let them be illegalized, acquitted, annihilated, abolished, valueless, unimportant. Our vows shall be no vows, and our oaths no oaths at all." -- Schulchan 9ruch, Edit. 1, 136. (The Jewish Kol Nidre ['All Vows"] Oath has been set to a morbid Jewish music, and is often heard on the radio. it is sung as a chant at each Yom Kippur [Jewish New Year] service [September 17].)

32. "Everything a Jew needs for his church ritual no goy is permitted to manufacture, but only a Jew, because this must be manufactured by human beings and the Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings." -- Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaiw 14, 20, 32, 33, 39. TaIDud Jebamoth 61.

33.. "A Jewish mid-wife is not only permitted but she is compelled to help a Jewish mother on Saturday (Jewish Sabbath) and when so doing to do anything which otherwise would desecrate the Saturday. But it is forbidden to help a non-Jewish woman even if it should be possible to help her without desecrating the Saturday, because she is to be considered only as an animal." -- Schulchan gruch, Orach Chaim 330.

34. "At the time of the Cholhamoed the transaction of any kind of business is forbidden. But it is permitted to cheat a goy, because cheating of goyim at any time pleases the Lord." --Chuichan Qruch, Orach ChaiD 539.

35. "The Jews are strictly Forbidden to cheat their brothers and it is considered cheating already if onesixth of the value has been taken away from him. Whoever has cheated his brother has to return it to him. Naturally all that only holds towards the Jew, to cheat a goy he is permitted and he is not permitted to return to him what he cheated him out of. Because the Bible says: 'Thou shalt not cheat thy next brother,' but the non-Jews are not our brethren, but as mentioned above, worse than dogs." -- aruch hoszen Haniszpat 227.
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Wimpy

Thanks for the info, AbdulMaria.  Time wise, how and the heck did you manage to find all these quotes.  Any hints?
I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a Hamburger today.

scorpio

Abdulmaria -  Good post. Thanks for the info.
According to Michael Hoffman in Judaism Discovered, the Steinsaltz version is the 'hottest' and most accurate translation
 of the Babylonian Talmud. The Soncino is supposed to be the best one after that.
Anyone who wants to know the real deal about Judaism, should read Hoffman's book book.
1100 pages very well referenced with many quotes from the Rabbis themselves. An amazing piece of research IMHO
This book can be purchased directly from the author:

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/

LordLindsey

Look...

these monsters have shown their hands time and time and more time again, and nothing at all is ever done to not only change the course of misery across the planet, much less to end it.  We MUST either come-up with different ways to get this information to those who don't know it and motivate them to confront those allowing this mass treason to take place, or what purpose is there to keep fighting against this in this rigged game as we have?  Everything that we have done to this point is nothing but water off of a duck's back to these fucking maniacs, so it is imperative that we must try different tactics to not only expose them, but to begin to bring charges against those responsible in any way in a court of law.

Things are only going to ever continue to get much worse the longer their final goal is within reach, which is the complete destruction of the "goy races."  I swear to God that I have never seen more evil in my life than I have since I have been investigating and then fighting Zionism, and to think that this will just continue to worsen until we are all destroyed is something that is completely unacceptable to me as a human being.

It is beyond the point-in-time for the police to arrest those responsible for these crimes, for people to stop the bullshit "I's gots mines!", and fighting among themselves, because anyone who has read The Protocols knows that the end goal is the complete destruction of us all.

LINDSEY
The Military KNOWS that Israel Did 911!!!!

http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=10233.0

scorpio

Quote from: "LordLindsey"I swear to God that I have never seen more evil in my life than I have since I have been investigating and then fighting Zionism, and to think that this will just continue to worsen until we are all destroyed is something that is completely unacceptable to me as a human being.
It is beyond the point-in-time for the police to arrest those responsible for these crimes, for people to stop the bullshit "I's gots mines!", and fighting among themselves, because anyone who has read The Protocols knows that the end goal is the complete destruction of us all.

LINDSEY

So true bro - Very well put.
I have noticed the same thing about the world lately.

Wimpy

I sent an edited version of AbdulMaria's post (removed his commentary) to my born again relative.  I received a response last night and I'm stummed but not speechless.

According to my relative's religious logic it appears to be okay with God to lie, to steal, to ravage  and to murder if one is the chosen Jew.  It is not for us to question God's will.  Hey, it's God's word from the Bible...........


"XXXXX,

                In the matter of rhetoric written for or against the Jewish nation whether it be true or false or even partially in error or truth the following absolutely cannot be disputed by anyone on planet earth concerning the relationship God has established with the Jewish nation... One may not totally understand this and they can argue all they want to with God, but I will not argue with God about it... God is sovereign with an understanding that goes way beyond mine... Isaiah 55:9 God says, "As high as the heavens are so are My ways and My thoughts higher than your ways and your thoughts."  Now no man can determine the how high the heavens are, so God's thoughts are pretty high and beyond any argument we persist in... Please read the comments by my brother-in-law XXXXX XXXXX below concerning this issue of God's preservation of Israel..."




My relative included this to support his position:



World of the Bible Ministry Update

The Divine Preservation of the Jewish People

by Dr. XXXXXX XXXXX


 

In a conversation on religious questions, Fredric II, King of Prussia (1740-1786) asked Joachim von Zieten, General of the Husars, whom he esteemed highly as a Christian for his plain and uncompromised views, "Give me proof for the truth of the Bible in two words!" To which Zeiten replied, "Your majesty, the Jews!" The General's statement reflected his understanding of not only the miraculous preservation of the Jewish people, but his belief that their preservation was for the purpose of bringing God's unfulfilled promises to pass. To Zeiten, the present existence of the Jewish people was proof that God's Word was true because Scripture had promised that they would remain until all that had been prophesied concerning them was fulfilled. Remarkably, this expression of faith was made in a day when the Land of Israel was desolate of a Jewish population and the majority of Jews were scattered among the nations.

A century before Zieten, Martin Luther also struggled with the significance of Jewish existence, but came to a very different conclusion based his observation of the miserable condition of the Jews in his day (sadly, one largely imposed upon them by the Christian Church). Deciding that such Jews could not be those to whom the Bible referred in its promises of future restoration, he said: "If the Jews are Abraham's descendants, then we would expect to see them back in their own land. We would expect them to have a state of their own. But what do we see? We see them living scattered and despised."[1] As a result, he continued to accept the spiritual interpretation of his Augustinian order that the Church is the only heir of the promises to Abraham. I wonder what Luther would say if they lived in our day when almost six million Jews have returned to the biblical homeland to regain their independence in a developed Jewish state whose technology and military achievements are the envy of the world? How different might have been the religious and political history in Germany and Europe (and the world) had Luther rightly understood God's purpose for preserving the Jews?

The modern return of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel has been called the "Miracle on the Mediterranean." Such a return by a people group that had been scattered among the nations is unprecedented in history. Indeed, the Jewish People are the only exiled people to remain a distinct people despite being dispersed to more than 70 different countries for more than 20 centuries. The mighty empires of Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome all ravaged their land, took their people captive, and scattered them throughout the earth. Even after this, they suffered persecution, pogrom, and Holocaust in the lands to which they were exiled. Yet, all of these ancient kingdoms have turned to dust and their former glories remain only as museum relics and many of the nations that opposed the Jews have suffered economic, political, or religious decline. But the Jewish people whom they enslaved and tried to eradicate live free and have again become a strong nation! In 1899 the American novelist Mark Twain made a similar observation in Harper's Magazine: "The Egyptian, Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away. The Greek and Roman followed, made a vast noise and they are gone. Other peoples have sprung up, and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out and they sit in twilight now or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal, but the Jew. All other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?" Because Mark Twain was an agnostic and skeptic, he could only recognize the miracle of Israel's preservation, but could not understand the reason for it.

The fact of the Jewish people's continuity is even more remarkable in light of the testimony of history to exile and return. In all of human history there have been less than ten deportations of a people group from their native land. These people groups disappeared in history because they assimilated into the nations to which they were exiled. However, the Jewish people did not simply experience a single exile, but multiple exiles. The first exile of the Jewish People was of the ten northern tribes of Israel to Assyria in 722 BC. This was followed 150 years later by a second deportation of much of the population of the southern kingdom of Judah to Babylon and Egypt. In 538 BC a small group of about 50,000 Jews returned to Judah to rebuild the Temple and walls of the city of Jerusalem, but a large portion of the Jewish People remained in the Diaspora (lands outside Israel). Under Persian rule these Jews almost faced extinction as an edict was issued by the Persian ruler to wipe them out as a race (see Esther 3:8-14). With the Roman invasion of Israel in 63 BC and the later destruction of Jerusalem (AD 70) there was a third exile of Jews to Rome. Sixty years later a fourth dispersion of the Jews occurred under the emperor Hadrian (AD 135). Persecution during the Byzantine era (4th-6th centuries AD), followed by harsh conditions imposed on the Jews under Muslim invaders in the 7th century, forced many more of Jewish people to relocate in other lands. The contrast here with other historical exiles should not be overlooked. While other people groups were exiled to one country, the Jews were dispersed to many different countries, and in fact were scattered to every part of the earth. The Jewish people also hold the distinction of being the only people to have successfully revived their ancient tongue after more than 2,000 years. In the late 19th century when Jews began immigration to the Land, Jews only spoke the languages of the countries from which they had returned. One man, Eliezer Ben-Yehuda, decided that the proper tongue for the Jewish people who were now back in the land of the prophets was the language of the prophets. He began teaching the children and today Hebrew is spoken daily by every man, woman, and child in Israel. By contrast, what country or people group today speak Egyptian, Assyrian, or Latin? Only the Jewish people have successfully regained the use of their original language in everyday life.

Moreover, the Jewish people are the only people to have returned en mass to their ancient homeland and to have restored their national independence by re-establishing their former state. When this event occurred on May 14, 1948, Israel's first Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion declared that what Israel was doing was fulfilling the vision of the biblical prophets. In other words, modern Israel was back in the land to continue the destiny that had been written of them in the Bible. This connection of the people of the Bile to the Land of the Bible may even be seen in the natural order. When I lived in Israel 30 years ago I was told that the very presence of the Jewish people in the land, draining the swamps in the Galilee, reforesting the hills, and irrigating the Negev was returning the environmental conditions to the way they were in biblical times. Even though the Jewish people did not have a homeland, a common language or a shared history (the factors that historians use to define a nation), they have remained a distinct people. This fact impressed the great secular historian Arnold Toynbee who remarked that there was no natural explanation for the survival of Jewish People through the ages.

Any one of these facts of Israel's survival would be remarkable, but taken together they are miraculous. Their preservation is a historical testimony to the faithfulness of God. The prophet Jeremiah declared this  even in the midst of Israel's darkest hour of destruction and exile: "The LORD's lovingkindnesses never cease, for His compassions never fail. They are new every morning; great is Thy faithfulness" (Lamentations 3:22). This faithfulness was seen even in spite of the national sin of the Jewish people in breaking their covenant with God, for the Lord promised that when he punished them they would not be annihilated as a people as would be their enemies: "For I am with you, declares the Lord, to save you; For I will destroy completely all the nations where I have scattered you, only I will not destroy you completely ..."  (Jeremiah 30:11). A similar statement is made in the New Testament to demonstrate that despite the national sin of rejecting their Messiah, God would not revoke His promise to restore Israel in the future: "From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God's choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers; for the gifts and callings of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:28-29). This promise of God's preservation of the Jewish people as a nation was also made to Jeremiah: "Thus says the Lord, who gives the sun for light by day, and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar; the Lord of hosts is His name: 'If this order departs from before Me,' declares the Lord, 'then the offspring of Israel also shall cease from being a Nation before Me forever'. Thus says the Lord, 'If the heavens above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out below, then I will cast off Israel for all that they have done,' declares the Lord" (Jeremiah 31:35-37). It should be noted that in this verse in the original text (Hebrew), the promise is made to preserve them not merely as a "people" (ha-'am), but as a "nation" (ha-goy). While it would be a phenomenon of history that any Jews might survive, it is an incredible miracle that they survived intact as a nation. This is because the Lord has a future purpose for the nation to bless the rest of mankind (Genesis 12:3).

While to some the incredible witness of Jewish preservation might seem to attest to the resiliency of the Jewish people, as though they had some unique strength in themselves, the reason for the Jews survival is, and always has been, the work of God. Author Sandra Teplinsky has well said: "Four thousand years ago God chose Abraham ... Four thousand years later the world is changed but the Word is not. God has catapulted Israel back to global center stage and made it an international battle zone. Why? Because its all about Him. The Creator King picked an otherwise sorry little strain of humanity called Israel for the sake of His own glory - not just for Bible times, but for all of history, down to this hour and beyond. Israel in the twenty-first century is all about Him."[2] For this reason, the present-day threats to wipe Israel off the map will fail just as have all such threats against the Jewish people in the past. The Psalmist David explained this was because the great Creator was for His people and would preserve them against every enemy in Psalm 124:

 

                        Had it not been the LORD who was on our side,"

                                    Let Israel now say,

                         "Had it not been the LORD who was on our side,

                                    When men rose up against us;

                        Then they would have swallowed us alive,

                                    When their anger was kindled against us;

                        Then the waters would have engulfed us,

                                    The stream would have swept over our soul;

                        Then the raging waters would have swept over our soul."

                                    Blessed be the LORD, Who has not given us to be torn by their teeth.

                        Our soul has escaped as a bird out of the snare of the trapper;

                                    The snare is broken and we have escaped.

                        Our help is in the name of the LORD, Who made heaven and earth.

 Let us therefore give God the glory for His preservation of the Jewish people and for His great future purpose in establishing the nation of Israel as the means of preserving God's blessings for all of mankind (Genesis 12:3).

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Is there some evidence suggesting that Martin Luther was influenced by Jews?  Maybe the approach towards my relative would be to illustrate that Martin Luther was a waterboy for the Jews and that his mission was to dupe Christians into unconditionally accepting their evil as "good".  

I find this situation challenging because there are a great number of Christian Zionists out there and finding a way, or magic bullet, to wake them up would be quite a victory for all of us.  I'm not throwing in the towel just yet.
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abduLMaria

Quote from: "Wimpy"I sent an edited version of AbdulMaria's post (removed his commentary) to my born again relative.  I received a response last night and I'm stummed but not speechless.

According to my relative's religious logic it appears to be okay with God to lie, to steal, to ravage  and to murder if one is the chosen Jew.  It is not for us to question God's will.  Hey, it's God's word from the Bible...........

and this is why i raised the question in another post about the history of Jesus.

Christianity works out great for the Jews.  i know modern Christian ministers have been co-opted, and their "flock" scammed, e.g. the "Prophecy" lectures in the archives at
http://www.horizon.org/archive/results. ... e=Prophecy

(specifically, note the December 31, 2008 lecture - this is right during the middle of the Israeli attack on Gaza.)

but, based on my limited knowledge of Jews, i have to wonder if the scam started earlier - like 2000 years ago.

i'm not questioning Jesus' teachings.  i wonder if His Resurrection occurred - because the religion which was based on the concept of His Resurrection has been hugely beneficial to the Jews & Zionists.
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GordZilla

Quote from: "abduLMaria"i'm not questioning Jesus' teachings.  i wonder if His Resurrection occurred - because the religion which was based on the concept of His Resurrection has been hugely beneficial to the Jews & Zionists.

No, you're not questioning His teachings, if you where you'd see how ridiculous the above statement is. Once again we're mixing religious belief with the real word of God. Jesus, by His own words and teachings IS their worse enemy – and their oldest. No one –to date- had more insight into these people. But the modern Church has slanted His message, convincing their flock that Jesus was a Jew and that the 'Jews' of today are the Israelis of the bible (He is not!, and they are not!). These are big points to be made, not to be overlooked – but unfortunately they are often overlooked, downplayed and dismissed. However back to  them, unarguably the majority of  their collective hate has been targeted at Jesus and His followers. Why?  Cause they wrote the book? Cause the book works in their favor? ...How about this, simply; It flat out exposes them, thousands of years before (and more accurately), then any other publication to date?  - You decide. I can only assure you 'Judeo-Christianity' has nothing to do with Jesus -and Jesus would have nothing to do with it -, no matter how hard their preachers try to convince you otherwise.

Only in the past 100 years or so has the religion been 'beneficial' to them, ironically this grew as their media influence grew and their ability to publish 'new' bibles increased. For instance; the Gideon Bible refers to Jesus as 'Rabbi'  -just one small example of this 're-writing'. However thru history, of the over 100 countries and regions that they were removed from you'll find this expulsion was done almost entirely by Christian hands – by Christians holding fast to the REAL word of God. For the real word of God, when practiced by thousands, millions, exposes them like a floodlight does to roaches.  They can only prevail when true faith and morality are severely crippled, this is the climate they like – the darkness makes for good cover.  This is why they spend no more effort on destroying anything as they  do on  Christianity, followed closely by Islam. That is saying a lot as they do tend to spend a lot of energy  on 'destroying' things .  Christianity, from day one, has been their prime target, what remains of it is what you are referring to now when you say it benefits them.

As for the 'resurrection', well that's an article of faith, believe what you wish. I personally believe it.

CrackSmokeRepublican

After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan