TiU Radio 29th May 08 - Guest Yeti (mp3)

[Canard]

Errm, Yeti/NibsNiven never once said it wasn't a Zionist operation. He said that they had established deals with WASPs and Catholics, and that both groups acted as fronts for the Jewish bankers.

EDIT: At least, that I can remember.

he said it was the Metajews who are they?  Do they have cabin next to the German(actually Semitic Alex!) Death Cultists?  :bs:  The reason Og had these guys on is because they both disagree with our position that it's a RC(jewish/zionist) run operation, they both failed to illustrate 1/10th of 1 percent that it is not the case.  I think either out of fear or perhaps another agenda.

BTW you, I and everyone on this forum know that they have patsies, dupes and traitors who work for them, who cares?  The point is where is the snakes head and what is the culture of origin that chiefly benefits from and aids the continuation of this process?

[nik]

I think I did.  He is a concen guy, they are Zionist Deniers, that's the other camp. Thats why they essentially forced Og out, you know that open minded, 'post anything' forum/tracker?  :oops:   We in fact have the position that they are on the top of the conspiracy ladder via RC, cryptos, masons and traitors.  How's that?  The last two interviews were of Zionist Deniers.  If they have better speakers, IM BEGGING FOR THEM to do an interview with Og and show us our folly.  Now I'd like to ask you, if I may; are you of the position it's not a Zionist/Jewish led operation?

okay I see. er.. I chuckle a bit at the "zionist deniers" tag.

You ask me my position - well, although you label me by proxy, "a zionist denier" I would say that I am not. The levy (no pun intended) of jewish capital is fundamentally clear, as are the Qabbalistic roots of esoterica. edit) although there is a lot of debate that the esoteric practices of Heliopolis were precursive and actually assimulated into Qabbala itself..in which case, it WOULD be a case of "the egyptians did it"  :roll: lol - Heliopolis, of course being informed by the concept of the Ennead - displaced by Akhenaton, the father of monotheism - but resurgent in many different schools of esoterica and contemporary social programming psyops operations eg. council of nine - same shit from across all those aeons - I haven't got a handle where the zionists fit in with that one..despicable as I find the actions of apartheid Israel, for I agree that it is an apartheid state based of supremacist principles.

However, I am not so clear as to why the monarchies and attendant aristocracies of Europe at the end of the Napoleonic wars would so meekly hand over the reigns to Rothschild without resistance.
That part doesn't work so well for me..when one considers only a few generations later that the Rothschild clan was "permitted" to intermarry with the Hapsburg line - well for me, that is indicating a merger..

[Canard]

I think I did.  He is a concen guy, they are Zionist Deniers, that's the other camp. Thats why they essentially forced Og out, you know that open minded, 'post anything' forum/tracker?  :oops:   We in fact have the position that they are on the top of the conspiracy ladder via RC, cryptos, masons and traitors.  How's that?  The last two interviews were of Zionist Deniers.  If they have better speakers, IM BEGGING FOR THEM to do an interview with Og and show us our folly.  Now I'd like to ask you, if I may; are you of the position it's not a Zionist/Jewish led operation?

okay I see. er.. I chuckle a bit at the "zionist deniers" tag.

You ask me my position - well, although you label me by proxy, "a zionist denier" I would say that I am not. The levy (no pun intended) of jewish capital is fundamentally clear, as are the Qabbalistic roots of esoterica.

However, I am not so clear as to why the monarchies and attendant aristocracies of Europe at the end of the Napoleonic wars would so meekly hand over the reigns to Rothschild without resistance.
That part doesn't work so well for me..when one considers only a few generations later that the Rothschild clan was "permitted" to intermarry into the Hapsburg line - well for me, that is indicating a merger..

I didn't label you anything (yet   ), I asked you a straight forward question, to find out your position.  If you wanted to take a shot, you should have said, I IMPLIED you were a Zionist Denier, it would have got you more mileage with your whole, who's this crazy guy calling me names thing you're trying out.  

Back to business...about the things you mention you are not clear on; it sounds like you've never seen the money masters, check it out.   When you see how much money RC had acquired by then, you will realize there was NO merger.  He had won by that point.  In fact the film; House of Rothschild even covers this, although not in very fine detail.

[nik]

I didn't label you anything (yet   ), I asked you a straight forward question, to find out your position.  If you wanted to take a shot, you should have said, I IMPLIED you were a Zionist Denier, it would have got you more mileage with your whole, who's this crazy guy calling me names thing you're trying out.  

Back to business...about the things you mention you are not clear on; it sounds like you've never seen the money masters, check it out.   When you see how much money RC had acquired by then, you will realize there was NO merger.  He had won by that point.  In fact the film; House of Rothschild even covers this, although not in very fine detail.

sorry mate - I said "by proxy" - and seeing as right now I'm an admin on concen you weren't "implying" nothing you were directly stating..it's cute and everything but don't bother arguing semantics with me. I ain't looking for "mileage" or pulling a "whose this crazy guy calling..etc". So in the words of frankie goes to hollywood..

Yeah mate, I did see "the money masters" a fair few times now. cheers for the advice though. Thing is, it didn't answer my question as to why the monarchies and aristocratic families gave over the reigns so humbly without making a fuss - if you're telling me it was because they were so in debt - sorry I don't buy that. There's plenty of Kings and Queens that have reneged on debt in history..ergo, not a water tight argument. So why did that hand it over so easy to Mr.Bauer?

yeah, saw house of Rothschild too - I like old movies so..

[LatinAmericanview]

I think I did.  He is a concen guy, they are Zionist Deniers, that's the other camp. Thats why they essentially forced Og out, you know that open minded, 'post anything' forum/tracker?  :oops:   We in fact have the position that they are on the top of the conspiracy ladder via RC, cryptos, masons and traitors.  How's that?  The last two interviews were of Zionist Deniers.  If they have better speakers, IM BEGGING FOR THEM to do an interview with Og and show us our folly.  Now I'd like to ask you, if I may; are you of the position it's not a Zionist/Jewish led operation?

okay I see. er.. I chuckle a bit at the "zionist deniers" tag.

You ask me my position - well, although you label me by proxy, "a zionist denier" I would say that I am not. The levy (no pun intended) of jewish capital is fundamentally clear, as are the Qabbalistic roots of esoterica.

However, I am not so clear as to why the monarchies and attendant aristocracies of Europe at the end of the Napoleonic wars would so meekly hand over the reigns to Rothschild without resistance.
That part doesn't work so well for me..when one considers only a few generations later that the Rothschild clan was "permitted" to intermarry into the Hapsburg line - well for me, that is indicating a merger..

That is a great question and the answer is the royals handed over power because of several reasons:
1. The essential nature of War is destruction- It destroys families, nations, and the surplus of human production. It was around this time that the industrial revolution had begun to bear fruit. Vast quantiles of products were manufactured while decreasing labor cost. The distribution of said goods could erase a fundamental difference between classes and thereby undermine the feudal society. As a practical matter war was agreed upon as a socially and psychologically acceptable way of disposing of surplus goods and the problem of distribution. This provided the merchant class with a well calculated windfall in profits. This drastic change in fortunes for the upper classes provided Jews (bankers)a fulcrum to which wrestle power away from the ruling class.
2. The use of subversive movements and secret societies.
3. Rothschild gain control of London Stock exchange.
4. The developement of a Anglo saxon world domination conspricy- secretly run by Jews.

anyway that is a start.

[nik]

That is a great question and the answer is the royals handed over power because of several reasons:
1. The essential nature of War is destruction- It destroys families, nations, and the surplus of human production. It was around this time that the industrial revolution had begun to bear fruit. Vast quantiles of products were manufactured while decreasing labor cost. The distribution of said goods could erase a fundamental difference between classes and thereby undermine the feudal society. As a practical matter war was agreed upon as a socially and psychologically acceptable way of disposing of surplus goods and the problem of distribution. This provided the merchant class with a well calculated windfall in profits. This drastic change in fortunes for the upper classes provided Jews (bankers)a fulcrum to which wrestle power away from the ruling class.
2. The use of subversive movements and secret societies.
3. Rothschild gain control of London Stock exchange.
4. The developement of a Anglo saxon world domination conspricy- secretly run by Jews.

anyway that is a start.

mind if I reply LAW? as an aside, I haven't managed to clock any of your shows yet but am eager to - I'm starting with the one you said is best so far..

well, you see part of my family comes from a city called Manchester in the UK - the city is said to be the birthplace of the industrial revolution - so I did do a bit reading into it. "Age of revolution" is pretty good and does contain some historical info pertaining to Rothschild/Bauer.

Of course, what you state as the consequences of war on a nation are very true.
However, your analysis of the industrial revolution may well be slightly off.

The dissolution of class through mass production is more allied IMHO to the creation of the consumer society, which as we know was a construct of the 20th century.

Aside from pulling people from the land to live in squalid terraces and work in the factories and furnaces, incurring a high morality rate amongst said workers and the creation of the new industrialist class, I find no arguments to support your supposition that the aristocratic and monarchic class were living in fear of a dissolution of class boundaries. In fact, far from it - the opposite was achieved with the creation of an underclass - known as "the working class". The designations of "class" were never more entrenched before than in this period. True the merchant class profited greatly, as did the swathe of new industrialists but I do not subscribe to this having wobbled the existing strata of elites to the extent you believe.

Not long after all the now vacated land was reconsigned to mass agricultural practices aggregated by new mechanical devices.

It is worth bearing in mnd that these now hugely profitable lands were still, as now, very much secure in the hands of the existing elites of that time. ie not Bauer. edit) although they would have more access to such after marrying into the aristocratic lines, such as Hapsburg..ie merging - don't forget all these fuckers are obssessed by blood..for some reason  

As far as the LSE goes - well, tbh, i've heard much of the analysis
but I need to research it more for myself to truly understand the nexus between, Rothschild, Crown, LSE and BOE.

Secret societies used and subverted to orchestrate an anglo saxon plan for world domination at the behest of a secret judaic cabal..I don't dismiss the idea out of hand. You'd have to be a little retarded,ignorant or in denial to not be able to see the level of international power wielded by jewish financiers and organisations..can you direct me to links where this is all referenced? I personally find it, again, to not neccessarily be the whole story but I have no problem admitting that my own research is ongoing.

Essentially you're saying op.Paperclip,zero point,NASA,ESA,JSA,CSA et al are all under the dominion of Talmudic supremacists?

it's all to neat and homogenised for me.

All the oil is to be run through Israel - should it not be sacrificial - either the Western powers have a mercenary interest in this and thus support Israel or they are cow-toed to this maniacal plan for world domination that you are subscribing to.

why is is that it is Kurt Waldheim's voice that is recorded on that solid gold disc we sent off into space and not a prominent jew,if it were a jewish conspiracy and nothing more?

don't tell me Waldheim was jewish..

Personally, I think it, the reality, could actually be WAY more far out than any of us are discussing on this thread but that's just my own personal opinion.

[Ognir]

Gentlemen,  I wad told he was ready for an interview, had notes ready n'shit so I took a few hours off work to go home and record. I wasn't expecting him to be shit faced at 7am

Audio was released not to show up yeti but the protocol part was important. live and learn as they say

[Rockclimber]

I didn't label you anything (yet   ), I asked you a straight forward question, to find out your position.  If you wanted to take a shot, you should have said, I IMPLIED you were a Zionist Denier, it would have got you more mileage with your whole, who's this crazy guy calling me names thing you're trying out.  

Back to business...about the things you mention you are not clear on; it sounds like you've never seen the money masters, check it out.   When you see how much money RC had acquired by then, you will realize there was NO merger.  He had won by that point.  In fact the film; House of Rothschild even covers this, although not in very fine detail.

sorry mate - I said "by proxy" - and seeing as right now I'm an admin on concen you weren't "implying" nothing you were directly stating..it's cute and everything but don't bother arguing semantics with me. I ain't looking for "mileage" or pulling a "whose this crazy guy calling..etc". So in the words of frankie goes to hollywood..

Yeah mate, I did see "the money masters" a fair few times now. cheers for the advice though. Thing is, it didn't answer my question as to why the monarchies and aristocratic families gave over the reigns so humbly without making a fuss - if you're telling me it was because they were so in debt - sorry I don't buy that. There's plenty of Kings and Queens that have reneged on debt in history..ergo, not a water tight argument. So why did that hand it over so easy to Mr.Bauer?

yeah, saw house of Rothschild too - I like old movies so..

I think the question as to why the monarchies and aristocrasies gave over their power is a no brainer. The royals are in the public eye and could be destroyed/humiliated by the baggage they carry, the money powers can humiliate anyone they set out to destroy. Most elites are only in power because they are compromised fools and they have to play the game. Publicly, or exoterically they appear to hold the power and influence. But there is no question in my mind who holds the true power, call them the esoteric or whatever, the hidden hand behind the scenes and that is to say the money powers who can not only destroy you publicly or financially, they will have you killed. Who had a score to settle with the Romanovs? Who is rumored to have a score to settle with Lincoln, or even JFK? Who wanted control of the banks under Andrew Jackson? Who funds both sides of wars, the royals? Hardly. While we can speculate all day, I believe the hidden hand, the ones who have the most to gain are the top of the pyramid, the international bankers. They are the most cunning and deceptive, take them and their henchman out of the game and the elite will be in dissarray.

[Ognir]

@Nik
Before you spread shite as I see you are trying to do on ConCen

1) NSM interview can clearly be followed on the tracker, he called me a coward and was asked to do a recording. I used my time yet again and he really didn't disagree with me

2) Yeti wantED to do that recording
Now so say that he sent me a PM not to upload it is kinda a BIG FUCKIN LIE

Re: TiU Radio 29th May 08 - Guest Yeti (mp3)      

NibsNiven
   

Fri May 30, 2008 12:11 am

If you look at the date, sent on the Fri 30th,  hours and hours after the torrent was seeding, so please don't try to pull that one on me. Anyone comes on to do a recording with me .............. will end up on a tracker somewhere.

As for yeti PMs, he's now sent me 2,  he has no CRED here and hopefully he'll do the right thing and not post again here.

Fuck, as if I set him or ConCen up is how it's playing and that fuckin bullshit. In the 75 audios I've done, I've never tried to set anyone up, even interviews with DSB, Chris C or even Phil so don't get any ideas.


EDIT

Before I started to record, he went for a drink and I asked him what he was driking and he told me a Canadian Dry, obvioulsy forgot to mention the JB that went along with it

[Ognir]

And another thing while I'm at it

I see you posted Og 2 ConCen 0

Fuckin kids and bullshit.  I want to learn from my interviews and yesterday wasn't great so stop trying to poke shite between the 2 forums.

Yeti got owned and looked bad,  not my fault, I think I tried to act professionally all thru out that interview and even with NSM the day before.

That's the thing, we all know each other over the past years, some have moved on and some are keyboard jocks and if anything goes wrong,  blame OG   hehe nice try

Now let's see, someone more interesting to interview .........

[nik]

And another thing while I'm at it

I see you posted Og 2 ConCen 0

Fuckin kids and bullshit.  I want to learn from my interviews and yesterday wasn't great so stop trying to poke shite between the 2 forums.

Yeti got owned and looked bad,  not my fault, I think I tried to act professionally all thru out that interview and even with NSM the day before.

That's the thing, we all know each other over the past years, some have moved on and some are keyboard jocks and if anything goes wrong,  blame OG   hehe nice try

Now let's see, someone more interesting to interview .........

the Og 2 concen 0 thing was coined by someone here actually..lke they were waging a war with the concen "zio deniers and traitors" - you can find it in this thread,actually. It came from HERE not me. lol but I do agree with you "fucking kids andf bullshit" - you should wise them up some to that kind of puerile shit.

I'm not actually trying to knock you, Noel. You make a good effort with the shows and you're good at it. And it's your show - if it was me I wouldn't have posted it and probably would have brought it to a wrap sharpish and (maybe) have suggested rescheduling when I realised he was cut two sheets to the wind. But that's me, not you and it was your call. "Yeti got owned" - yeah, but it was cruel and you could have saved him that if you had chosen to. But as said, it was your show - your call.

I'm not trying to spread shit though. Quite the opposite really. It's hardly my fault that some of the folk here are idolising you and getting this "concen is the enemy" crap distorting their thinking..I just put my oar in as some of the insults on the man were getting pretty heavy and that got in my craw.

[nik]

I think the question as to why the monarchies and aristocrasies gave over their power is a no brainer. The royals are in the public eye and could be destroyed/humiliated by the baggage they carry, the money powers can humiliate anyone they set out to destroy. Most elites are only in power because they are compromised fools and they have to play the game. Publicly, or exoterically they appear to hold the power and influence. But there is no question in my mind who holds the true power, call them the esoteric or whatever, the hidden hand behind the scenes and that is to say the money powers who can not only destroy you publicly or financially, they will have you killed. Who had a score to settle with the Romanovs? Who is rumored to have a score to settle with Lincoln, or even JFK? Who wanted control of the banks under Andrew Jackson? Who funds both sides of wars, the royals? Hardly. While we can speculate all day, I believe the hidden hand, the ones who have the most to gain are the top of the pyramid, the international bankers. They are the most cunning and deceptive, take them and their henchman out of the game and the elite will be in dissarray.

With all due respect Scott, I don't think it is really quite a "no-brainer". The demographic of global finance then was not as it is today. This was the pivotal point in the whole timeline.

I mean, you yourself here are speculating when you suppose the aristocrats and monarchy submitted without resistance - for fear of being destroyed/humiliated in the public eye.

A bit depleted, they nevertheless still were commanding standing armies and I'm not entirely sure it would have been that easy for jewish merchant bankers to sully the name of the monarchy in the public eye. It still just doesn't fit for me. When they marry into the Hapsburg line - I see that as indicating a reshuffle and merger not a buy out.

where'd all the nazi's go anyway? no, not in germanic death cults - into the SPACE PROGRAM and Gene Tech and theoretical particle physics..

the meek will inherit the earth.

so, as I said - if it is a global jewish conspiracy and ONLY a jewish / jewish ONLY conspiracy then why is the voice of an Austrian Nazi the one used to send out into space as our hello greeting? You have to admit that that, insignificant as it may appear, stands out as an incongruent fact in the jew only led conspiracy theory.

[Ognir]

Nik posted from 2 weeks ago or so
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=687

Let me state clearly, I don't want any member of TiU to fuck around with ConCen, not in our name. That tracker is a unique thing in our fight and Mike being a hothead might just turn it off. Since I've always been active there even since the split, I've not read many negative comments about us, no big deal if there are, I'll stick up for my work.

What I've noticed, some of my torrents have been DELETED and even several times and thats a FACT. Some of my comments have been deleted and thats a FACT, so I hope Mike gets that shit sorted out. I spend a great deal of time making, preparing and seeding torrents to have some fuckin ejit deleting my stuff. :headbang:

As for linking TiU in their forums, no real need for that as we seem to be always on the Tracker Homepage. I don't really understand what Mike is up to, I really don't, as he hates giving publicity to other sites.

However, Mike being a Drama Queen and needs to throw a tantrum every 2 months or so, so please don't do anything to push him over his limit again and ban our stuff. I know what Mike is like, he's basically a good guy but every so often, things build up and he stresses out and is liable to kill the tracker.

So please again, the members worth anything from ConCen are already here and we don't want the likes of the FAG Brigade, Phil, Silva and co here. Let them talk shite until they follow the money.

Og

As you well know Nik, being an Admin lol,  posters will post anything

There is no bad blood between our forums as far as I'm concerned, but there are a few users that shoot off their mouths over there with very little to back it up.

ConCen users would be better off IMVHO, trying to get Radio ConCen going again and getting some direction, which was lost when we left and the Gnostic group.

Shit don't get me started on my friend Phil and deucebag Leo    as I see the members of CC are doing rather well ..

[nik]

I agree, concen radio is something that should be considered for revival for sure. I think it's more a matter of when than if really..but when when is I don't know. Even I have a skype set now,lol but don't have a clue post production - how hard can it be? plenty hard, probably. :roll:

No bad blood is a good call as far as I'm concerned.  

nik

[Ognir]

No bad blood is a good call as far as I'm concerned.

nik

Agreed as we have a bunch of (insert name) criminals running the world and here we are again infighting over a guy that had a few drinks. I'm not really bitching at Yeti even if he is no longer welcome here.

Og goes home to record 20 mins
Og sets up 10 mins
Og quick chat with Yeti 5 mins
Og interview 1h38
Og transfers WMA and converts to MP3   15 mins
Og prepares Torrent 5 mins
Og posts torrent to many trackers 15 mins
Og Seeds torrent 1h
Og returns to work 20 mins

Total 248 minutes that Yeti owes me   , lost forever

Nik buy a simple Digital Recorder as I did, it will pick up when you speak,  have the other person on Skype coming thru the speakers and the DC recorder picks that up, et viola you have Radio ConCen back. Obviously having something to say helps

Best of Luck

[LatinAmericanview]

That is a great question and the answer is the royals handed over power because of several reasons:
1. The essential nature of War is destruction- It destroys families, nations, and the surplus of human production. It was around this time that the industrial revolution had begun to bear fruit. Vast quantiles of products were manufactured while decreasing labor cost. The distribution of said goods could erase a fundamental difference between classes and thereby undermine the feudal society. As a practical matter war was agreed upon as a socially and psychologically acceptable way of disposing of surplus goods and the problem of distribution. This provided the merchant class with a well calculated windfall in profits. This drastic change in fortunes for the upper classes provided Jews (bankers)a fulcrum to which wrestle power away from the ruling class.
2. The use of subversive movements and secret societies.
3. Rothschild gain control of London Stock exchange.
4. The developement of a Anglo saxon world domination conspricy- secretly run by Jews.

anyway that is a start.

mind if I reply LAW? as an aside, I haven't managed to clock any of your shows yet but am eager to - I'm starting with the one you said is best so far..

well, you see part of my family comes from a city called Manchester in the UK - the city is said to be the birthplace of the industrial revolution - so I did do a bit reading into it. "Age of revolution" is pretty good and does contain some historical info pertaining to Rothschild/Bauer.

Of course, what you state as the consequences of war on a nation are very true.
However, your analysis of the industrial revolution may well be slightly off.

The dissolution of class through mass production is more allied IMHO to the creation of the consumer society, which as we know was a construct of the 20th century.

Aside from pulling people from the land to live in squalid terraces and work in the factories and furnaces, incurring a high morality rate amongst said workers and the creation of the new industrialist class, I find no arguments to support your supposition that the aristocratic and monarchic class were living in fear of a dissolution of class boundaries. In fact, far from it - the opposite was achieved with the creation of an underclass - known as "the working class". The designations of "class" were never more entrenched before than in this period. True the merchant class profited greatly, as did the swathe of new industrialists but I do not subscribe to this having wobbled the existing strata of elites to the extent you believe.

Not long after all the now vacated land was reconsigned to mass agricultural practices aggregated by new mechanical devices.

It is worth bearing in mnd that these now hugely profitable lands were still, as now, very much secure in the hands of the existing elites of that time. ie not Bauer. edit) although they would have more access to such after marrying into the aristocratic lines, such as Hapsburg..ie merging - don't forget all these fuckers are obssessed by blood..for some reason  

As far as the LSE goes - well, tbh, i've heard much of the analysis
but I need to research it more for myself to truly understand the nexus between, Rothschild, Crown, LSE and BOE.

Secret societies used and subverted to orchestrate an anglo saxon plan for world domination at the behest of a secret judaic cabal..I don't dismiss the idea out of hand. You'd have to be a little retarded,ignorant or in denial to not be able to see the level of international power wielded by jewish financiers and organisations..can you direct me to links where this is all referenced? I personally find it, again, to not neccessarily be the whole story but I have no problem admitting that my own research is ongoing.

Essentially you're saying op.Paperclip,zero point,NASA,ESA,JSA,CSA et al are all under the dominion of Talmudic supremacists?

it's all to neat and homogenised for me.

All the oil is to be run through Israel - should it not be sacrificial - either the Western powers have a mercenary interest in this and thus support Israel or they are cow-toed to this maniacal plan for world domination that you are subscribing to.

why is is that it is Kurt Waldheim's voice that is recorded on that solid gold disc we sent off into space and not a prominent jew,if it were a jewish conspiracy and nothing more?

don't tell me Waldheim was jewish..

Personally, I think it, the reality, could actually be WAY more far out than any of us are discussing on this thread but that's just my own personal opinion.

Here is a link to my videos with the supporting proof on industrial revolution as a threat to the status quo. Listen to the whole thing about 7minutes. I am currentl working on a show on this topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1jLYmjLUIk

[nik]

hey,that's a good video LAV    where's the soundtrack from?

Plato's republic..  is what I'm thinking lol

thanks for the link - that was good. I don't suscribe to the flux to power in the "middle" though. The middle have, since creation, functioned as a buffer to keep the "high" from the "low" - managerial class scapegoating if you will..

The low do rise up in history without assistance from the middle - and usually get massacared. Often, as you say the middle stoke the fire but it is dismissive of the low to suggest they/we need the intellectual vigour that only the middle are want to provide on their quest to be high.

I would still say the analysis of the industrial revolution is a bit off.. the only shake up was in the merchant and new emerging industrialist class - the poor were now more trapped than ever and too dazed to rise at that point in english history imho

I don't subscribe to these terms high,middle,low but for the sake of analogy...

cheers

[LatinAmericanview]

hey,that's a good video LAV    where's the soundtrack from?

Plato's republic..  is what I'm thinking lol

thanks for the link - that was good. I don't suscribe to the flux to power in the "middle" though. The middle have, since creation, functioned as a buffer to keep the "high" from the "low" - managerial class scapegoating if you will..

The low do rise up in history without assistance from the middle - and usually get massacared. Often, as you say the middle stoke the fire but it is dismissive of the low to suggest they/we need the intellectual vigour that only the middle are want to provide on their quest to be high.

I would still say the analysis of the industrial revolution is a bit off.. the only shake up was in the merchant and new emerging industrialist class - the poor were now more trapped than ever and too dazed to rise at that point in english history imho

I don't subscribe to these terms high,middle,low but for the sake of analogy...

cheers

Let us break this down a little further-

The High
Ruling oligrachy -Ruling families- 300-700 members
the middle- Administrative class 3-5% o the world population
inner party middle class 2-3% Mostly Jews and Freemasons
Outer party middle class 1-2% Very talented individuals - looking to attach themselves to a larger inner group
The Low- all members of western and developed nation that are not part of the middle.
The slave classs- the rest of the world Africa, Latin America and other equatorial lands.  Please watch T. Barnett the pentagons new road map c-span. Please watch this

Plato's republic is all about this! In the history there has never been a solution. The Americans have come the closest.

[Canard]

I didn't label you anything (yet   ), I asked you a straight forward question, to find out your position.  If you wanted to take a shot, you should have said, I IMPLIED you were a Zionist Denier, it would have got you more mileage with your whole, who's this crazy guy calling me names thing you're trying out.  

Back to business...about the things you mention you are not clear on; it sounds like you've never seen the money masters, check it out.   When you see how much money RC had acquired by then, you will realize there was NO merger.  He had won by that point.  In fact the film; House of Rothschild even covers this, although not in very fine detail.

sorry mate - I said "by proxy" - and seeing as right now I'm an admin on concen you weren't "implying" nothing you were directly stating..it's cute and everything but don't bother arguing semantics with me. I ain't looking for "mileage" or pulling a "whose this crazy guy calling..etc". So in the words of frankie goes to hollywood..

Yeah mate, I did see "the money masters" a fair few times now. cheers for the advice though. Thing is, it didn't answer my question as to why the monarchies and aristocratic families gave over the reigns so humbly without making a fuss - if you're telling me it was because they were so in debt - sorry I don't buy that. There's plenty of Kings and Queens that have reneged on debt in history..ergo, not a water tight argument. So why did that hand it over so easy to Mr.Bauer?

yeah, saw house of Rothschild too - I like old movies so..

Sorry, I didn't know you were a ConCen Admin. Let's play nice ok? :chill:
I mean if they aren't Anti the idea of a Zionist Conspiracy, why did Og leave?  Or better why didn't more ppl come with you over here.  Don't answer I know the site, and the stance of those in charge. I actually thought of it as very gatekeepery when they started banning smith's work from there and found the new radio concens and torrent Og offered surprisingly refreshing.

I know what you are saying about ppl reneging on debt, but as you may or may not know; the concept of a banking, temple militaristic scam/society/plot whatever is VERY old.  Thousand of years by some accnts.  RC perfected this strategy, he had gobs and gobs after Napolean fell and quite the resource list.  I'm sorry but to be honest you seem as though nothing would ever convince you, so this is my response you are free to view it how you like.  

So if it isn't RC at the top running things,..who is?  If you say you don't know and are still looking, I can respect that.   I have come to this conclusion because after Rothschild the next most likely candidate (evidence wise) is I dunno Bugs Bunny.  IMO after you've seen all the pertinent data, its the only logical conclusion one can make, but I do welcome sourced, factual refutation.  Be well.

[Ralph Furely]

im drunk at 7 am around twice a week.  ill take a listen im interested in the Canadian shit anyway.
i wont hold you being drunk against you either.  it sounds fun

[NibsNiven]

im drunk at 7 am around twice a week.  ill take a listen im interested in the Canadian shit anyway.
i wont hold you being drunk against you either.  it sounds fun

I have pretty much NO memory of the interview. I finally regained enough courage to actually listen to it.

It's pretty weak. I'd give it ~ 30% actually important content. Obviously it could have been much better, but I'm freakin' amazed that I sound as lucid as I did. The most amazing thing about it is that Ognir decided to release this POS - after all, he has more to lose than I do. Another scary part to this is the fact that some of the people around here think this is some kind of contest in which people get to score points. WTF?

As for the CanCon, have you noticed how hard it is to find?

[Ralph Furely]

if anyones interested, id like to do a shitfaced drunk interview with Og.  at 7.

[Canard]

im drunk at 7 am around twice a week.  ill take a listen im interested in the Canadian shit anyway.
i wont hold you being drunk against you either.  it sounds fun

I have pretty much NO memory of the interview. I finally regained enough courage to actually listen to it.

It's pretty weak. I'd give it ~ 30% actually important content. Obviously it could have been much better, but I'm freakin' amazed that I sound as lucid as I did. The most amazing thing about it is that Ognir decided to release this POS - after all, he has more to lose than I do. Another scary part to this is the fact that some of the people around here think this is some kind of contest in which people get to score points. WTF?

As for the CanCon, have you noticed how hard it is to find?

You're just repeating yourself now; we know you're embarassed, we know you think Og looks worse then you do.  You repeated yourself a lot in the interview too.  Did you have to do duck and cover?  We know you think you could do better.  I personally don't see how.  I love the indirect references to me.  Some people showed up and presented their case and made logical cogent points and someone else was a drunk and looked like an ass.  You got issues with anything I say don't be a coward bring it up.   Ill give you the benefit that you're coherent right now.  

I said Og 2, Zionist Deniers 0.  I still do, do you feel you proved Your point? Contest hmmmm, have you hard of a debate before?  I've already addressed that in several points, you say the same things over and over, so I suspect you're drunk again.  It was supposed to be an intellectual competition where two sides show up and present evidence, usually sober and usually its an academic affair.   Similar to what Joe did, during your interview there was a lot of I feel and no I don't think so having a lot of gaps in historical research, we here don't suffer from the same delusions and are learning more everyday.

You've got nerve to keep posting around here like a. you have any credibility b. like somehow you're walking around smelling like roses.  I've already promised rockclimber I'm not going to get into the silly feuds any further, but you are crossing the line here, where I need to request the mods to step in and warn you to stop stirring shit up especially since the other forum (DON'T SAY THEIR NAME!!!  :-P ) banned a lot of our members outright for nothing.  Your posts are little more then emotionalism which you are using for agitation.  That will not fly here.

You know what I truly DO find scary and pathetic while we're at it? That grown men nearing fifty years old get trashed at 7am when they have two young children that they need to set a good example for. 10/10 for comedy though.  Now do you have anything of substance to contribute to our community or are you gonna post the same babble over and over again?

[Ognir]

Before we get into this debate Shank vs Ctrl

I think people should re-listen to the pisshead that was the one that actually deleted the shank audios (YETI) (http://theinfounderground.com/archives/ ... 20Yeti.mp3)

He deleted the torrents/audios without even listening as he stated today, he just listened to both audios in full today only.

Notice he explained to Ctrl why he deleted them a few days ago,  but yet as I stated, he only recently listened to the audios in full. Tom O'Pisshead aka Yeti can only go after our buddy Scott.  Scott makes the point that Shank is a WN and he supports other part of his research, not others, Scott doing the right thing, listening to the message, working on what's good and what's BS and paying little attention to the messenger.

If you look on the tracker right now, it's a fuckin shrine to Alex Bullhorn Jones, it's unFUCKIN REAL. (http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/index.html) Count the number of AJ torrents. Are all these fuckin idiots buying into the crap ?

Yet the users will accept that AJ wouldn't talk about Jewish issues or Israel, THEN WHY CAN'T THEY SEE THAT THEY ARE GATEKEEPING FOR THE JWO/NWO??? Peter Shank is spot on here, Ctrl by in-action is GATEKEEPING as I've stated many many times.

LET ME OFFICIALLY CALL A BUNCH OF THEM FUCKIN MORONS
OH GREAT LEADER YETI, FANCY A 2 ON 2, CTRL/YETI vs SHANK/OG

Can someone please post my request

Maybe Shank just wants a 1 on 1, that's fine,  but Yeti watch out you fuckin moron, fancy another crack at me sober? No excuses from your ass this time!!

As for my buddy Scott's open support for Shank's work, let me say that we both know his work over many years. Peter was a host on RBN in the past until he was kicked off by Stadtmillar. He's well researched and I've never ever heard him call someone a "N". He has produced some excellent work over many many years and he didn't just appear on the scene. He has his PoVs, agree or not,  listen to some of his new or older works on the Jewish question and 911 involvement.

I would ask you, would you like to learn about possible Israeli/Mossad/Jewish involvement in 911 or have the Gatekeepers censor it?
Yeti is a pisshead is now the official censor for ConCen.

TiU & Shank banned from ConCen
Yet you can download AJ, Icke and other nonsense

WTF is so difficult?
Shank called them out for Gatekeeping and that is what the debate is about,  time for Ctrl to answer some questions on the record and I personally am looking forward to it or if Yeti wants in, even better.

[Ognir]

Thanks to the person that posted that for me pity there was no link to this thread  :lol:

Actually, maybe it's time again for some round-table debates to clear the air

How about DBS or Piper or Prothink vs Jones, Rense /insert name in 1 on 1s or 2 on 2s ??

[Ognir]

next thing we know you are banning the anarchist cookbook and a suidicde manual.pdf... where will it end...?

how much content is being deleted ?

as our tracker been taken over

This guy Sekular or whatever his name is, is spot on. CC have been deleting stuff since I left and especially since Tom O'Pisshead aka Yeti seems to have taken over

During my 3 years running it, only copyright, pron & soft were deleted

[Ognir]

I stand corrected, it seems Peter uses the N word more often on his new network

What about Eric John Phelps FFS?
Talk about open racist?
I hates Catholics as well
Fuckin crazy bastard, yet go and count his 5-6 audios on the CC Tracker?

Censorship Yeti is the DECIDER

[mobes]

Thanks to the person that posted that for me pity there was no link to this thread  :lol:

Actually, maybe it's time again for some round-table debates to clear the air

How about DBS or Piper or Prothink vs Jones, Rense /insert name in 1 on 1s or 2 on 2s ??

I'll address this as a part of my next show, I have a completely different take on this. I know some of the disinfo they put out there is definitely misleading, but for those of us who have brains, we should easily be able to figure out who's in for the money and who is not.

[Ognir]

Exactly Mobes, but if you have a dickhead that deletes before you can even download, then what?

[Ognir]

Mike aka Ctrl the truth seeker

Listening to his audio now lol

Ctrl seems to think he is vindicated because we got closed down for mentioning Jews haha

Can someone please tell crackhead that Joe didn't pay the bill and it had nothing to do with us dealing with ZioJewish criminals.

Yet again, exactly what I said, self-censorship. Feck sake The joos must be laughing at fools like these