Strange weird embarrassing situation for Adam Weishaupt

[Anonymous]

I know usually people like to claim Adam was Jewish and what not, but this letter confuses me a bit

taken from
Proofs of a Conspiracy, by John Robison, [1798]

Spartacus to Marius, September 1783.

"I am now in the most embarrassing situation; it robs me of all rest, and makes me unfit for every thing. I am in danger of losing at once my honor and my reputation, by which I have long had such influence. What think you--my sister-in-law is with child. I have sent her to Euriphon, and am endeavouring to procure a marriage-licence from Rome. How much depends on this uncertainty--and there is not a moment to lose. Should I fail, what is to be done? What a return do I make by this to a person to whom I am so much obliged! (we shall see the probable meaning of this exclamation by and by.) We have tried every method in our power to destroy the child; and I hope she is determined on every thing--even d------. (Can this mean death?) But alas! Euriphon is, I fear, too timid (alas! poor woman, thou art now under the disciplina arcani) and I see no other expedient. Could I be but assured of the silence of Celsus (a physician at Ingoldstadt) he can relieve me, and he promised me as much three years ago. Do speak to him, if you think he will be staunch. I would not let Cato (his dearest friend, and his chief or only confidant in the scheme of Illumination) know it yet, because the affair in other respects requires his whole friendship. (Cato had all the pretty receipts.) Could you but help me out of this distress, you would give me life, honor, and peace, and strength to work again in the great cause. If you cannot, be assured I will venture on the most desperate stroke (poor sister!) for it is fixed.--I will not lose my honor. I cannot conceive what devil has made me to go astray--me who have always been so careful on such occasions. As yet all is quiet, and none know of it but you and Euriphon. Were it but time to undertake any thing--but alas! it is the fourth month. These damned priests too--for the action is so criminally accounted by them, and scandalises the blood. This makes the utmost efforts and the most desperate measures absolutely necessary."

Why would a jew need a marriage license from Rome?

and this

For Hertel (Marius) writes to Zwack in November 1782: "Spartacus is this day gone home, but has left his sister-in-law pregnant behind (this is from Bassus Hoss.) About the new year he hopes to be made merry by a------; who will be before all kings and princes--a young Spartacus.

p. 96

The Pope also will respect him, and legitimate him before the time."

why would a jew care about the pope legitimizing his offspring?

If anyone has answers, i would be obliged.

[joeblow]

Moved to the appropriate forum.

[thirdeyewise]

that's like asking why would a former yeshiva student now be a Muslim convert threatening to kill Jews.............Joseph Cohen
that like asking why would the grandson of an ADL executive be the spokesman for Al-Qaeda...............Adam Pearlman
that's like asking why would another yeshiva Jew put on a Nazi uniform and march on Skokie Il..............Joseph Cohen
that's like asking why would a Czech Jew act like he is Irish knowing full well they were speaking yiddish at home.......John Kerry (Kohn)
that's like asking why would that same Czech Jew go to church every Sunday and recieve communion if he is indeed a Czech Jew

because they are playing their role, they are acting.




are you serious?

ever heard the term Marrano Jews who FAKED what they were claiming to be, Catholics

[Anonymous]

that's like asking why would a former yeshiva student now be a Muslim convert threatening to kill Jews.............Joseph Cohen
that like asking why would the grandson of an ADL executive be the spokesman for Al-Qaeda...............Adam Pearlman
that's like asking why would another yeshiva Jew put on a Nazi uniform and march on Skokie Il..............Joseph Cohen
that's like asking why would a Czech Jew act like he is Irish knowing full well they were speaking yiddish at home.......John Kerry (Kohn)

ever heard the term Marrano Jews who FAKED what they were claiming to be, Catholics


because they are playing their role, they are acting.

are you serious?

what sources do you have that Adam was Jewish? I would like to read them.  Also Being a jew is a religious thing not a race thing, if they were crypto jews how do you they were practicing behind closed doors?

or do you believe jews are a race of people

I am always serious, the info contradicts peoples claims that he was a jesuit and that he was a jew. so i would like to know and see the evidence of such claims. or should i just take your word for it?

[thirdeyewise]

there are religious Jews and racial Jews, for example Sammy Davis Jr was a religious Jew. Sammy could never in a million Years get a Jew specific disease or pass a Jew specific DNA test which shows Jews are a distinct group of people.


"I am not an American citizen of the Jewish faith, I am a Jew. I have been an American for sixty-three years, but I have been a Jew for 4000 years. [...] Hitler was right in one thing. He Calls the Jewish people a race and we are a race."
-Stephen S. Wise, President of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress, at a New York rally in June 1938


"A Jew remains a Jew even though he changes his religion; a Christian which would adopt the Jewish religion would not become a Jew, because the quality of a Jew is not in the religion but in the race. A Free thinker and Atheist always remains a Jew." (Jewish World, London December 14, 1922)


"We are one nation. We are neither American Jews nor Soviet Jews, but only Jews!"  
-Theodore Herzl   Founder of Modern Zionism


"We are Jews and nothing else. A nation within a nation." (Dr. Chaim Weisman, Jewish Zionist leader in his pamphlet, (Great Britain, Palestine and the Jews.)


"A Jew remains a Jew. Assimilalation is impossible, because a Jew cannot change his national character. Whatever he does, he is a Jew and remains a Jew. The majority has discovered this fact, but too late. Jews and Gentiles discover that there is no issue. Both believed there was an issue. There is none." (The Jews, Ludwig Lewisohn, in his book "Israel," 1926)


"No one pretends that a Japanese or Indian child is English because it was born in England. The same applies to Jews." (Jewish World, London September 22, 1915)







as far as your "Jew vs Jesuit" question, if you can't find it in this thread i don't know what to tell you:
 viewtopic.php?f=40&t=8630

[Anonymous]

ah ok i see where you made your mistake, believing the jewish propaganda. You have been brianwashed into believing that they are a distinct race of people rather a group of religious freaks that isolated themselves from others much like the amish or mormons etc..

so i guess with that logic we can assume that the Amish are a race of people and the mormons are a race of people etc...

I will read the jesuit vs jew thread again and report back

cheers
Thanks for the info

[Jenny Lake]

If you follow medical literature, the Jews make it quite clear that they are a genetic race, despite the facts of studies that show no special racial distinctions, it's the Jews who maintain it themselves.

[Anonymous]

If you follow medical literature, the Jews make it quite clear that they are a genetic race, despite the facts of studies that show no special racial distinctions, it's the Jews who maintain it themselves.

it's still propaganda

so if i follow your logic if the jews claim they are a race then they are a race.

so why believe their propaganda

cheers

[Rockclimber]

If you follow medical literature, the Jews make it quite clear that they are a genetic race, despite the facts of studies that show no special racial distinctions, it's the Jews who maintain it themselves.

it's still propaganda

so if i follow your logic if the jews claim they are a race then they are a race.

so why believe their propaganda

cheers

Maybe I'm reading her wrong but it sounded like she said they are not a genetic race, but it is they who say it (and push it for obvious reasons).

As far as Weishaupt being a jew...I have not found any concrete evidence myself other than people just saying that he is.

[Anonymous]

Maybe I'm reading her wrong but it sounded like she said they are not a genetic race, but it is they who say it (and push it for obvious reasons).

As far as Weishaupt being a jew...I have not found any concrete evidence myself other than people just saying that he is.

Thanks RockClimber
I had read Jenny's response as supporting evidence of Thirdeyewise's belief that jews are a race.


thanks joe for the article

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=8670

[thirdeyewise]

i agree with the theory that Judaism has been a melting of different cultures that somewhere along the line adopted the Jewish faith but i also believe it is a little more complicated than simply calling them a religion.

[Rory27]

Is there a difference between a Hebrew,and a Jew?...Im not coming from one stand-point or another,im just asking questions here... But,if there is no genetics involved,than why do people always claim you can 'tell a jew by there nose'?!...Does religion give people body parts of a certain look?,or do people take body parts a little too far?...

[Wimpy]

...Does religion give people body parts of a certain look?,or do people take body parts a little too far?...

Definitely, Hebrews take the body parts and sell them.

Jews, Hebrews, Zionist Jews,...It's a tribe and it's easier to gain admission if Mom was a tribe member.

[thirdeyewise]

But,if there is no genetics involved,than why do people always claim you can 'tell a jew by there nose'?!...Does religion give people body parts of a certain look?,or do people take body parts a little too far?...

not only the nose aspect, but there are Jewish specific diseases and Jewish specific DNA test. Maybe the term "a race" is not
the correct analogy but it is definitely not just a religion.

[Anonymous]

If you like the Dilling view

Why Do They "Look Jewish"?

A long article, with pictures and charts, in the Jewish Encyclopedia, under "Types, Anthropological," seeks to answer the question as to why there is a recognizable "Jewish look" as to so many self-styled "Jews." Subjects such as percentages of blonde and brunette types, their origins, skull formations, are discussed.

Then, to quote: "What is popularly known as 'the Jewish type' is not a correlation of definite anthropological measures or characteristics, but consists principally in a peculiar expression of face, which is immediately and unmistakably recognized as 'Jewish' in a large number of cases ... It has also been remarked that persons who do not have the Jewish expression in their youth acquire it more and more as they grow from middle to old age." Illustrations of how Negroes, as well as Gentile adults and children, recognize this Jewish look, are related. That the "look" is not racial is illustrated by "the Little Russians, who apparently resemble their Gentile neighbors in every facial characteristic, but are differentiated from them by some subtle nuance which distinguishes them as Semites ... It is seemingly some social quality which stamps their features as distinctly Jewish."

The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith has issued a series of leaflets for Fireside Discussion Groups. Number 7 is entitled: "Three Questions Jews Must Answer."

The question "Are Jews a Race?" is answered, briefly, with the conclusion that Jews are part of a "general admixture" of races.

"Are Jews a Nation?' is answered with the idea that Jews form parts of all nations; that some of them have the Zionist ideal of a Palestinian nation but "Jews have a consciousness of world unity." To quote: Jews are "definitely a type, and consciously a unity, we are an historic people — a world community."

The question "Are Jews a Religion?" is answered by the assertion that "There are hundreds of thousands of Jews who are unbelievers. Yet they still consider themselves Jews." The incident of Jews converted to Christianity asking to help build a Jewish Palestine is related. "It is true that there are hundreds of thousands of atheist Jews, but they need not fear to be represented by Judaism. Of this they may be sure: that Judaism will not misrepresent them."

This is a good place to stop and agree on that point. As noted more fully elsewhere, aside from the "whited sepulchre" which constitutes the showmanship and trimmings of so-called "Judaism," its basic doctrine is that God is the "En Sof," a nature essence which has no attributes and can neither know nor be known. That is atheism and the basis of all pagan pantheism. Communism merely calls the same concept "dialectical materialism."

The article ends: "In a race-mad world, we will not be one more race. In a world destroyed by nationalism, we will not add one more nationalistic fury. But in a world in which religion is trying to re-establish brotherhood, we ... [are] the creators and bearers of one of the eternal faiths of the human race."

But Pharisaism is not an "eternal" faith of the "human" race and, in truth, teaches as a basic law that only Pharisees are "men" or humans (Exhibit 268). That "the synagogue of Satan," as Christ called Pharisaism ( Revelation 2:9, 3:9) is "eternal," is denied by the whole Bible.

The B'nai B'rith pamphlet previously quoted also states:

"We want a world in which nationalism shall definitely diminish." And. Jews feel "they belong to one world unity. When the Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492, the Jewry of northern Africa received them. When the Jews were expelled from Germany during the crusades, the nascent Jewry of Poland received them. When they were expelled from Poland in 1648, the reconstituted German community received them in turn: and when Eastern Europe sent its Jewish ... exiles across the world, American Jewry helped them find a home, they have always welcomed their own exiles ... We are the children of ... a great and noble tradition. We were united by that tradition. Whenever a scholar in Northern Africa wrote a new commentary on the Talmud, it was read on the shores of the North Sea by another scholar, and whenever a rabbi along the Rhine became known in the field of Talmudic jurisprudence, his fame spread to Spain and even to Mesopotamia. They were united by one spiritual culture ... It is not race, so-called, but it is spiritual culture which has made us one."

[page 58] Indeed, it is this "oneness" of World Jewry for anti-Christianity, anti-Gentilism, pornography, immorality and plain anti-humanity which brings about a "Jewish look."

As a man "thinketh in his heart so is he." (Proverbs 23:7)

We know that the gangster or the woman of the streets will acquire a "look," not evident in the cradle. A glance at the photos of leading Jews in a Jewish Who's Who reveals a striking, often fierce, "Talmudic look."

Isaiah the prophet in denouncing the Judah tribe for their abominations said:

"The show of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! For they have rewarded evil unto themselves!" ( Isaiah 3:9)

Whatever the "Jewish look" may be caused by, it is not a result of race or genealogy. The propaganda with which we are currently deluged, to the effect that the Jews who have taken the Holy Land by force, displacing Arabs who had lived there for many centuries, are merely "descendants" of the prophets, "returning to their homeland," is the purest fiction and wholly false.

[Rockclimber]

^^Very interesting read John, I pdf'd that one for my archives of keepers.

[Anonymous]

if you search online you can find the digital version of the ADL pamphlet.

I think i once found a copy here

danwymanbooks.com

There are many interesting books there

notice jewish though and jewish religion Not Jewish Race

ZIONIST PAMPHLETS

Two series of Pamphlets have been published by " The Zionist.*'

The first consists of ten Pamphlets dealing with various aspects of Zionism —
the ideas and aims of Zionism, its history and organisation, its relation to
Jewish thought and the Jewish religion, and Zionist work in Palestine. The
second consists of six Pamphlets, each containing (in English translation) an
Essay of Achad ha- Am, the famous Hebrew thinker.

The price of each series is 2s. 6d. post free.

taken from
THE

JEWISH COLONISATION
IN PALESTINE

http://www.archive.org/stream/jewishcol ... k_djvu.txt

[Rory27]

:mrgreen:

Thanks for the response for my question John,gives prospective,and more places to look into the question

[jai_mann]

hen, to quote: "What is popularly known as 'the Jewish type' is not a correlation of definite anthropological measures or characteristics, but consists principally in a peculiar expression of face, which is immediately and unmistakably recognized as 'Jewish' in a large number of cases

Holy shit, this is something I've been studying carefully for some time now. Identifying who is jewish will help me in interactions so I have been focusing on traits that they seem to have and others lack.

The main things that I have noted are the lips. Look at paul wolfowitz and that pos bill krystal. Then there is the nose. I have noticed that there is a facial expression which they tend to do that I just don't see on any one else. Bill krystal does the face a lot. It's the whole "tortured" reasoning expression. They furrow their brow and scrunch the eyebrows together and upward. The eyes have a pleading emotion in them as they lay out their argument. The upper cheek muscles are contracted and the bottom lip tends to protrude more.

I've been meaning to start saving images of jewish faces for education work but haven't gotten around to it. The expression I describe above can be seen here:
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/upl ... olweb2.jpg
This is the face but it cuts off the damn brow wrinkles. I can't believe it's taking me more than 10 minutes to try to find this expression he so frequently presents...

Here's a partial of the expression: http://www.wordsoup.com/blog/Kristol.jpg
The eyes are really important with the brow furrowing.

Another partial: http://www.internetweekly.org/images/kr ... nistan.jpg

You can see the brow furrowing just starting in this image.
http://content9.clipmarks.com/blog_cach ... 2425A32FFC

haha! They've got the brow furrowing in this caricature of him. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... 0%26um%3D1

You all should be able to get the picture from these exemplars.

[thirdeyewise]

how funny, you should get a "Jew recognition" facial program going