Conspiracy Theory: Jesse Ventura on 9/11

[MikeWB]

Episode 2 of Conspiracy Theory:

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[Jenny Lake]

Thanks for putting this up Mike!
..sturm,drang, and another twisty bump in the road...

[Jenny Lake]

I did some checking on sources of information made available to "Conspiracy Theory" for this show and what's likely never to happen. The point of this show was to make conspiracy theories into conspiracy facts and introduce a new telling --pretty obvious-- and help Ventura get a contract to stay on the air so he can pursue his "Big Brother/inside job" angle. It's highly improbable he will ever ever touch on "Israelis" or raise crucial questions of guilt.
...but you guys knew that, huh?
They'll have to come back with a media response to the blackbox 'evidence'. Should be interesting.

[MikeWB]

Jenny,

He will never attack the Israelis. He knows that ADL would rain down on him and call him names and get all the advertisers off his show. I think Ted Turner owns truTV so that wouldn't sit well with him either since they'd go after him and his various interests as well.

That's why he'll continue claiming that it's an "inside" job and that gov is behind it (the Alex Jones strategy). Unless "powers that be" decide that his show is too dangerous, his show will be renewed. His show is probably the highest rated show on that TV network (I don't know... I don't watch TV and have never seen even a single show on that channel but reports said that 1st episode of his show was the highest rated show ever on truTV).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TruTV
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/12/03/conspiracy-theory-with-jesse-ventura-delivers-1-6-million-viewers-trutv's-biggest-audience-ever-for-a-new-series-launch/35201

This episode was interesting. They concentrated on black boxes a lot and I never heard of this claim that 3/4 were found. That was new to me. If true, it's obvious why it was "hidden"... it would show that plane was piloted remotely. How else would inexperienced/lousy pilots fly planes like that? Unless they held a gun at pilot's head and he went along with it, there's no way these guys could fly like that. So hiding these boxes makes sense. If they ever release them, they'll manufacture fake telemetry etc.

[jai_mann]

The point of this show was to make conspiracy theories into conspiracy facts and introduce a new telling --pretty obvious-- and help Ventura get a contract to stay on the air so he can pursue his "Big Brother/inside job" angle. It's highly improbable he will ever ever touch on "Israelis" or raise crucial questions of guilt.
...but you guys knew that, huh?

I had to lmao at your conclusion. It goes with out saying! It's so damn obvious that he's a new gatekeeper, being broken out as AJ falters and many of his audience turn to hosts that aren't just whining about the futility of resistance, but providing solutions. I predict that I will be justified in calling for a noose for his neck along with AJ, O'reilly, olberman, matthews, et al. after a few more shows (if not this first one that I have yet to watch).

I hope all of you are prepping still for hard times and quite possible war. We've all studied history enough to see who's causing the major problems, and given the problems that they've created in the past, we're bound to be looking at some heavy shit in the near future...we'll come out on top though, and the pendulum will swing in the other direction until our descendants get stupid towards the problem group, again....

[jai_mann]

. They concentrated on black boxes a lot and I never heard of this claim that 3/4 were found. That was new to me. If true, it's obvious why it was "hidden"... it would show that plane was piloted remotely. How else would inexperienced/lousy pilots fly planes like that? Unless they held a gun at pilot's head and he went along with it, there's no way these guys could fly like that. So hiding these boxes makes sense. If they ever release them, they'll manufacture fake telemetry etc.

Damn good point. I had heard about those boxes being found but I never thought of them recording the remote piloting ( I think the remote piloting came to my attention much later and I never thought about the two together-nice catch!).

I didn't expect the info on them to be revealed mainly because there wouldn't be any ay-rab terrorists on them (unless allah ahkbar! was dubbed in with a jewish accent ).

[Jenny Lake]

I had to lmao at your conclusion. It goes with out saying!  It's so damn obvious that he's a new gatekeeper

...did the lmao myself, but you know I had to say it.
there can only be one version of this story allowed. Anybody following the current trial? This story has to be serviced. Reinforcing controlled demolition with conventional explosives, hijackers, national security 'needs', false flag ops --this sets the stage to rope in all the extended stories that make sense to people and make them willing to see the government get an ear-trimming, scaling down and allowing more outside, global-type oversight. This is very good for global gov. There will never need to be admissions about 'super' technologies and bigger agendas. It reminds me of the kind of debates people had early on, after 9-11 and into 2003.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Good observations. Sadly, a large number of people watch TV Wrestling and will follow him away from the NeoCon-Israeli-Insider Jews who did 9/11.

[GordZilla]

Jenny,

He will never attack the Israelis. He knows that ADL would rain down on him and call him names and get all the advertisers off his show. I think Ted Turner owns truTV so that wouldn't sit well with him either since they'd go after him and his various interests as well.

That's why he'll continue claiming that it's an "inside" job and that gov is behind it (the Alex Jones strategy)".... .

You can't honestly believe this Mike??? Omg!  :roll:

"Strategy??"

NO it's GATE KEEPING!! Who gives a F%#k if your 'advertisers' will leave you when you're telling the truth??? Come 'on mike, you never cease to surprise me with your gullibility.

Alex and Jessie are both gatekeepers, as with John Stewart .. end of story.

[MikeWB]

Jenny,

He will never attack the Israelis. He knows that ADL would rain down on him and call him names and get all the advertisers off his show. I think Ted Turner owns truTV so that wouldn't sit well with him either since they'd go after him and his various interests as well.

That's why he'll continue claiming that it's an "inside" job and that gov is behind it (the Alex Jones strategy)".... .

You can't honestly believe this Mike??? Omg!  :roll:

"Strategy??"

NO it's GATE KEEPING!! Who gives a F%#k if your 'advertisers' will leave you when you're telling the truth??? Come 'on mike, you never cease to surprise me with your gullibility.

Alex and Jessie are both gatekeepers, as with John Stewart .. end of story.

Yawn.. always the same story: it's all staged, it's all planned, everyone's in on it, nothing happens by chance, blah blah blah.

Can you prove anything you're claiming?  :roll:

[thirdeyewise]

I like Jesse "the body", but the chances of the word "Israelis" ever coming out of his mouth are slight.

Jesse Ventura Walks Off The Opie & Anthony Show!
[youtube:1daqswlr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvKgj_EjUDw[/youtube]1daqswlr]

you got love the little guys with the big mouth who are all gun ho about sending troops to fight and without fail have
never done any military service. I was hoping Jesse would go "Navy SEAL" on the little mouth!

[jai_mann]

I still don't trust Jesse and see this as theater.

Observation: Ventura has clear signs of Parkinson's disease.

[scorpio]

This episode was interesting. They concentrated on black boxes a lot and I never heard of this claim that 3/4 were found. That was new to me. If true, it's obvious why it was "hidden"... it would show that plane was piloted remotely. How else would inexperienced/lousy pilots fly planes like that? Unless they held a gun at pilot's head and he went along with it, there's no way these guys could fly like that. So hiding these boxes makes sense. If they ever release them, they'll manufacture fake telemetry etc.

I have a friend that has been a pilot with American Airlines for over 20 years.
He told me that there is no way in the world that someone with minimal
flying experience on a Cessna could do that kind of flying.
The big commercial jets are very complicated to fly.
Remote controlled flying is certainly the most likely explaination.

I sure hope that no one gets on this thread and starts talking about the no plane theory....
The ultimate conspiro-tard conspiracy theory  :lol:  :roll:

[scorpio]

Also, thanks to Thirdeyewise for the clip of Jesse walking off that radio show.
I would have loved to have seen him bitch-slap that little bald guy!!!

My father lived in Minnesota during Jesse's Governorship.
There was a popular t-shirt at the time which said:
"My governor can kick your governor's ass"  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[FlierFlyLilly]

You were supposed to know 9/11 was a scam.  They handed you Silverstein building 7 (Jew...conventional controlled demoliton) on a silver platter....you didn't discover that!

The 9/11 theories pushed by Steven Jones, Ventura and the mainstream truthers were all 'approved' by the perpetrators for Mainstreaming.  TIU readers already know who own the Media.  The question TIU should be asking is this:  What is the 1 critical piece of 9/11 evidence the Mainstream Media and Truth Movement (alternative Media) are hiding from the public?  Who are they really protecting?

[LordLindsey]

As far as I'm concerned, all of these people like "The Body" and Jonestown act as Gate-keepers to ensure that AMERICA is blamed for the shit that happens while those who are truly responsible are allowed to continue FULFILLING THEIR PROTOCOLS TO THE CONCLUSION.  Whether these gate-keepers realize what they are doing or not is ir-relevant at this point because the damage is still being done AND the facts of who is doing what to whom for WHAT PURPOSE has already been as conclusively shown as reasonably possible here at TIU and elsewhere.  I am not going to watch "The Body" or listen to Jonestown or have anything to do with these kinds of people because THEY SERVE NO PURPOSE except to those who are too ignorant to realize that they are wasting their time, energy, and MONEY with people like this.  

As far as I am concerned, all of the people like the two mentioned above who do not discuss IsraHell in any meaningful way do nothing but add fuel to the anti-American sentiment across the planet, and in THAT regard they are doing the bidding of the Zionists to make America the bad guy in the eyes of the rest of the world.  America did this, America did that, America created a "self-inflicted wound," all the while NEVER, EVER telling you who the fuck has USURPED America and almost all of the Western nations to make all of this misery take place.

NO MORE EXCUSES.

LINDSEY

[Mystic_Man]

I had to lmao at your conclusion. It goes with out saying!  It's so damn obvious that he's a new gatekeeper

...did the lmao myself, but you know I had to say it.
there can only be one version of this story allowed. Anybody following the current trial? This story has to be serviced. Reinforcing controlled demolition with conventional explosives, hijackers, national security 'needs', false flag ops --this sets the stage to rope in all the extended stories that make sense to people and make them willing to see the government get an ear-trimming, scaling down and allowing more outside, global-type oversight. This is very good for global gov. There will never need to be admissions about 'super' technologies and bigger agendas. It reminds me of the kind of debates people had early on, after 9-11 and into 2003.

Nah, it's not good for world government. Your thesis is too conspiratorial imo. It's just that they want to hide the Israeli involvement cause the Jews are so powerful so they expose everything else. It's not gonna result in world government cause most truthers know all about that.

[Mystic_Man]

As far as I'm concerned, all of these people like "The Body" and Jonestown act as Gate-keepers to ensure that AMERICA is blamed for the shit that happens while those who are truly responsible are allowed to continue FULFILLING THEIR PROTOCOLS TO THE CONCLUSION.  Whether these gate-keepers realize what they are doing or not is ir-relevant at this point because the damage is still being done AND the facts of who is doing what to whom for WHAT PURPOSE has already been as conclusively shown as reasonably possible here at TIU and elsewhere.  I am not going to watch "The Body" or listen to Jonestown or have anything to do with these kinds of people because THEY SERVE NO PURPOSE except to those who are too ignorant to realize that they are wasting their time, energy, and MONEY with people like this.  

As far as I am concerned, all of the people like the two mentioned above who do not discuss IsraHell in any meaningful way do nothing but add fuel to the anti-American sentiment across the planet, and in THAT regard they are doing the bidding of the Zionists to make America the bad guy in the eyes of the rest of the world.  America did this, America did that, America created a "self-inflicted wound," all the while NEVER, EVER telling you who the fuck has USURPED America and almost all of the Western nations to make all of this misery take place.

NO MORE EXCUSES.

LINDSEY

You know they may be gatekeepers but as far as regular tv goes I don't think this is that bad. It's hokey but at least the facts are real, that's a hell of a lot better than Tom Brokaw and stuff. And also America's earned it's image in the world. Sorry but it goes beyond Jewish influence there's also the whole white supremacist thing. Look at the slaughter of the Native Americans, the enslavement of the blacks, the abuse of the Mexicans. Sorry but that was not all done by Jews there were plenty of non-Jews involved. Patriots love Andrew Jackson cause he stood up to the bankers but he murdered the Natives wholesale.

[jai_mann]

You know they may be gatekeepers but as far as regular tv goes I don't think this is that bad. It's hokey but at least the facts are real, that's a hell of a lot better than Tom Brokaw and stuff. And also America's earned it's image in the world. Sorry but it goes beyond Jewish influence there's also the whole white supremacist thing. Look at the slaughter of the Native Americans, the enslavement of the blacks, the abuse of the Mexicans. Sorry but that was not all done by Jews there were plenty of non-Jews involved. Patriots love Andrew Jackson cause he stood up to the bankers but he murdered the Natives wholesale.

All tv = attitude conditioning. If you haven't realized this yet then here's your notice. America is a fucking legal fiction which simpleton's treat as if it is something living or material. White supremacist? The so called Jews are the ultimate supremacists. YOU need to hit the fucking books before telling others that they are wrong. Hello? Jews ran the slave trade? Look up Tony Martin's work. Native Americans were largely slaughtered by the us military not the common man of european ancestry. Why don't you go get the Jewish encyclopedia and read about their supposed history in their own words.

[scorpio]

All tv = attitude conditioning. If you haven't realized this yet then here's your notice. America is a fucking legal fiction which simpleton's treat as if it is something living or material. White supremacist? The so called Jews are the ultimate supremacists. YOU need to hit the fucking books before telling others that they are wrong. Hello? Jews ran the slave trade? Look up Tony Martin's work. Native Americans were largely slaughtered by the us military not the common man of european ancestry. Why don't you go get the Jewish encyclopedia and read about their supposed history in their own words.

Slam dunk Jai_mann!!  

Mystic man - perhaps you should stick with Democracy Now, with Amy Goodman.
I think that's more your speed.  :lol:

[Jenny Lake]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auXvMeBv5uw  (Part 1 of 3)

[LordLindsey]

So many people in this bowel...I mean "truth" movement just can't accept the fact that the people who so many people over the years have said have been doing all of this shit that we see happening to us now are the same ones that SAID that they are "Chosen" above all of the COMMON ANIMALS and WILL create a "New World Order."  What in the Hell is wrong with people that they can not accept the FACT that the Talmudists said that the creation of a New World Order is a "Catholic" ideal?

Get the fuck outta' here with this distraction until you have the facts to back-up what you say.  When I give my SPECULATION or CONJECTURE, that's one thing; when I say that someone said something or I KNOW what I saw or heard, that is something else entirely.  

""The great ideal of Judaism," the Jewish World announced Feb. 9, 1883 " is that the whole world shall be imbued with Jewish teaching and that in a Universal Brotherhood of Nations -a greater Judaism in fact--all the separate races and religions shall disappear."

NO MORE EXCUSES.  NO MORE.  If you people can't see what is clearly right in front of your eyes, and has ALWAYS been there--but made ever more clear to you via the ease of research using the internet--then you do not WANT to know what is really happening to YOU and US, and as far as I am concerned you are doing much more harm than good for any kind of "truth" movement; in fact, there IS not "truth" movmenet because this "movement" has been so co-opted and infilitrated and mid-directed that the "movement" doesn't even know which fucking way is up any longer.  This just makes me sick.

LINDSEY

http://www.pgorg.com/


"Is World Government a Zionist bid for power?



What does "World Government" mean?

A bonanza? One language? One economy? One sex? Same clothes, same culture, same thoughts? Everyone marching to the beat of the same drum?

But isn't variety the source of life? Isn't uniformity contrary to nature?

So what is it really about?

It's about money, about greed, and about power.

The idea is not new. Throughout recorded history conquerors have flashed across the scene sword in hand and held dominion over the known world of their time. Sometimes the empires they created died with them. Sometimes they lingered on.

The aim is still the same, but the means of attaining it has changed. If there ever has been a moment to question what is happening in the world, and to the world, it is at this moment.

The freedom of the Press, once a guarantee of a healthy society, no longer exists. Nor does its honesty.

The control of the media and economy world-wide has slipped into the hands of a few conglomerates, who dictate policy, advocate inroads into the central structure of society, the family unit, and attack any belief that holds a people, a race, together in a unity of culture and tradition. Like some parasitical growth they work from within.

America is now virtually a one-party state, controlled by a small group that stands in the shadows pulling the strings, manoeuvring Presidents as the occasion demands, A group driven by one thing only, the desire for money and power.

For two hundred years warnings have been issued that such a situation could come about.

To quote Thomas Jefferson:


"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks ...will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered..."

To quote Abraham Lincoln:


"The Government should create, issue and circulate all the currency and credits... By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity."

These words and his monetary policies after the civil war probably cost him his life.

Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations" and advocacy of Free Trade is supposed to be the blue print for the control by the conglomerates, yet it is exactly opposite to what he maintained. He, in fact, opposed any form of economic concentration on the grounds that it distorted the market's natural ability to establish a price that provided a fair return.

Despite these warnings, how has the trend to World Government come about?

There are various possible explanations. The inventions of the Industrial Revolution played their part. The change from cottage industry to mechanisation boosted trade and trade meant money. Capitalism, the use of paper money, the introduction of credit brought bankers into their own. Note these were not the men whose intelligence and effort perfected the inventions that made the Industrial Revolution possible. These were others, who waited in the wings to draw out profit.

For the West, the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries were a time of revolution, of violent upheavals against the old order. Starting with the execution of King Charles I in England, then a hundred years later the secession of the American colonies, followed in quick succession by the French Revolution, the Napoleonic wars, the collapse of the Ottoman and Hapsburg Empires, the First World War, the Russian Revolution and World War 2.

Revolution and war are meat and drink for those who finance them.

There began a determined assault on nationality. The word "Racism" reared its head. Most monarchies and aristocracies had disappeared leaving the nations they had ruled without leaders. All strong religions, except one, were undermined, either directly or by innuendo. The "Rights of Women" eroded the family unit and words like "honour" and "justice" fell into disuse.

The banks and corporations wallowed and grew fat on the proceeds, spreading their net, destroying as they went, unconcerned of the result their inroads made on the environment.

Benjamin Disraeli, later British Prime Minister, said in the House of Commons in 1852:

"...the world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes..."

Who are they?
These men who are pulling the strings behind the scenes?

In America:

The banks:

Rothschild
Lehman Brothers
August Belmont
Goldman Sachs & Co.
J. & W. Seligman
James Speyer & Co.
Kuhn Loeb & Co. (Warburg)
Lazard Freres
The Media:

AOL-Time Warner : Gerald Levin
CNN : Walter Isaacson
Polygram : Edgar Bronfman Jr.
Walt Disney : Joseph E. Roth
Miramax Films : B. & H. Weinstein
ABC : Michael Eisner
Viacom : Murray Redstone
CBS : Murray Redstone
Dreamworks : Katzenberg/Geffen/Spielberg
Vivendi : Edgar Bronfman Jr.
News Corporation : Rupert Murdoch
Associated Press : Michael Silverman
Advance Publications : Samuel Newhouse
The Newspapers:

New York Times : Arthur Sulzberger
Washington Post : K. M. Graham
Wall Street Journal : Peter Kahn
New York Daily News : M. Zuckerman
New York Post : Peter Chernin
Bush Government Members:

Douglas Feith - Under Secretary of Defense
Richard Perle - Pentagon adviser
Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Defense Secretary (upgraded to Director of the World Bank 1/6/05)
David Wormser - adviser to the Vice President
Harold Rhode - Iran specialist
Clinton Government Members:

Margaret Albright - Secretary of State
G. Tenet - Chief of F. B. I.
W. Cohen - Secretary of Defense
Robert Rubin - Secretary of Treasury
The United Kingdom:

Television/Radio:

BBC TV : Greg Dyke
Carlton Communications : Michael Green
Granada : S. Morrison
BSky : R. Murdoch
ITV : Michael Green
ITN : Michael Green
BBC Radio : Jenny Abramsky
The Newspapers:

Daily Express : R. Desmond
Sunday Express: R. Desmond
Daily Star : R. Desmond
The Sun : R. Murdoch
The Times : R. Murdoch
News of the World : R. Murdoch
Daily Telegraph : Israel Asper
Weekly Telegraph : Israel Asper
Daily Mail : Guy Zitter
Ukraine and Eastern Europe:

Central European Media: R Lauder/V.Rabonovich

Russia:

ORT : Roman Abramovich

Czech Republic:

TV Nova: Roman Abramovich

Every one of the individuals listed above has one thing in common. They are all Jewish.

Such a concentration of power in the hands of one group, a minority group, should occasion surprise, if not concern.

This isn't new. The move to control the press has a long history. Reuter's, the international Press Agency was founded in 1849 by Israel Beer Josaphat as a pigeon post service, under the name of Reuter's Telegraph Company. In 1858, now known as Baron Paul Julius von Reuter, and having changed not only his name, but his religion and his nationality, he moved to England where he persuaded English papers to publish his news.

Now perhaps the catchwords of "anti-semitism" and the "holocaust" become intelligible. Every item of news is Jewish controlled. Nothing that is featured in newspapers, radio or television has not been through the Jewish sieve.

Bearing in mind that these are the people who are moulding world opinion, why do they, being Jews, themselves members of a very tight religion, a religion intolerant of outsiders, who favour inter-marriage between their own kind, attack other beliefs? Is it because they consider any religion, other than their own, a barrier to their aims?

It is they also - for they control the Media - who label any national pride as "racism". How then do they explain the injustice of the existence of Israel? Or are they considering themselves the only race?

The Jews are money lenders, usurers, and it was this that earned them the opprobrium of the people they came amongst.

They have moved from country to country, changing their names, adopting whatever language was convenient, yet staying apart, jealously guarding their Jewish identity. Parasites act in the same way, living off their victims, manipulating and destroying. Yet even parasites manage to live in some sort of symbiosis with their hosts. Jews however, over millenia, seem to have found it difficult.

Throughout recorded history, the story has been the same. Egypt, Babylon, the Roman Empire, the Visigoths, England in 1290, France in 1394, Spain in 1492, Portugal in 1497 and then Germany, all these disparate nations found reason at one time or another to eject them.

They, however, by "conversions" to Christianity endeavoured to sidetrack these expulsions and maintained throughout Europe a strong underground network. Both Torquemada - the head of the Inquisition - and the Borgias came from Jewish converso families.

As did Dr. Roderigo Lopez, physician to Queen Elizabeth, executed in 1594 for conspiring to murder her.

To quote the words of The Jewish Philospher, Rabbi Marcus Eli Ravage from an article for The Century Magazine, Vol. 115, January 1928, No. 3:


"If you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not draw your attention to the one worth talking about? What use is it wasting words on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper owners and movie magnates, when you might as well justly accuse us of the proved control of your whole civilisation by the Jewish Gospels?

You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the last great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it ..."


And again to quote from "The World Significance of the Russian Revolution" by Oscar Levy:


"There is scarcely an event in modern history that cannot be traced to the Jews. We Jews today are nothing else but the world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries... Our last revolution is not yet made."

False braggadocio or the truth?

To quote from extracts of letters found in the Synagogue at Mulheim:


"l6th June 1647 - from Oliver Cromwell: "In return for financial support will advocate admission of Jews to England. This however impossible while Charles living.

Charles cannot be executed without trial, adequate grounds for which do not at present exist. Therefore advise that Charles be assassinated, but will have nothing to do with arrangements for procuring an assassin, though willing to help in his escape."


And the reply:


12th July 1647. "Will grant financial aid as soon as Charles removed and Jews admitted. Assassination too dangerous. Charles shall be given opportunity to escape. His recapture will make trial and execution possible. The support will be liberal, but useless to discuss terms until trial commences."

Mayer Amschel Bauer was born in the mid-eighteenth century and, working for Prince William of Hanau, he used the Prince's fortune to amass a fortune for himself and changed his name to Rothschild. From that moment revolutions came thick and fast and behind every one were Jewish names.

Bassenge and Bohmer,the Jewish jewellers, with Cagliostro, (a Freemason) were the front players in the Necklace Conspiracy that sparked off the French Revolution. It is interesting to note that the same tactics were used to obtain a valid reason to execute Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette as that suggested in the letter quoted above regarding Charles I, i.e. they were allowed to escape and then recaptured. The net result of the blood bath of the French Revolution was that the Jews stepped in to fill the vacuum created by the destruction of the aristocracy.

In 1806, Napoleon remarked:

"By what miracle did whole provinces of France become heavily mortgaged to the Jews, when there are only sixty thousand of them in this country?"
(Quoted from MSS of Napoleon, 1811.)

The Napoleonic Wars were financed on both sides by the Rothschilds.

A Jew, Ivan Manasevich, was behind Rasputin in the lead up to the Russian Revolution. Marx, Trotsky and Lenin were all Jews and many of the big names in the Bolschevik entourage were Jewish or with Jewish connections. The deaths of millions of Russians lie at their door.

Is all this a coincidence? Or is it part of a plan? Does a blue print exist?"

The Protocols of Zion
No document has had more effort or money spent on its suppression than The Protocols of the Elders of Zion ever since its first private circulation in Russia in 1897.

It has been called a forgery, a production of the Czar's police, who were alleged to have used as their model a book called "Dialogues aux Enfers entre Machiavelli et Montesquieu (known as "The Geneva Dialogues") and another publication called similarly "Machiavelli, Montesquieu and Rousseau" written by Jacob Venedy, a Jew and a Freemason.

Forgery or no, it is unarguable that whoever wrote the Protocols had remarkable prescience, for it mirrors exactly what has happened and is happening to-day.

But it goes back further than that. The Protocols are not a unique work, but the product of an ancient heritage, unbroken and unaltered.

In 1492, Chemor, the Chief Rabbi of Spain received the following advice from the Grand Sanhedrin (Elders of Zion) in Constantinople:


"l. As for what you say that the king of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.

2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.

3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries that they may take away Christians' lives.

4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches.

5. As for the other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.

6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power." Signed: Prince of the Jews of Constantinople."


This quote from: Julio-Inigrez de Medrano - "La Silva Curiosa" 1608 is an almost exact paraphrase of some of the main points of the Protocols.

The Talmud
The Jewish religion has four books: The Torah (the Christian 'Old Testament'), the Talmud, the Kabbalah (a book of mysticism, the origin of the cabalistic signs used by the Illuminati and the Freemasons) and the Zorah, of these:


"...The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart's blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs or ceremonies we observe - whether we are orthodox, conservative, reform or merely spasmodic sentimentalists - we follow the Talmud. It is our common law." Herman Wouk - The Talmud

The Talmud, as Judaism's holiest book, takes precedence over the Torah. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself: Erubin 21b (Soncino edition):

"My son be more careful in the observance of the words of the scribes than in the words of the Torah."

It may come as a surprise but the Talmud is no collection of kindly, moral teaching, but in parts is a "racism" hate literature against "goyim" (non-Jews) with many unpleasant passages.


"By our jokes and by our attacks we will render their priests ridiculous and eventually odious, their religion as ridiculous, as odious, as their priests. We shall become masters of their souls, because our pious attachment to our religion will prove to them they shall be our possession." Leviticus 25:44-45)


"A jew may rob a goy - that is, he may cheat him in a bill, if unlikely to be perceived by him." (Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 28, Art. 3 and 4)


"Thou shalt not do injury to your neighbour, but it is not said, 'Thou shalt not do injury to a goy.'"(Mishna Sanhedryn 57)


"All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general." (Schultchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348)


A jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old. (Sanhedrin 54b)


"When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing." (Sanhedrin 54b)

The Holocaust
For a long time now, too long, the world has been held in political and sentimental blackmail with tales of the slaughter of millions of Jews in the gas chambers of the German Reich.

Like the Protocols this has received the full treatment of the propaganda machine. Where though did these "millions" come from when there were only 500,000 Jews in Germany during Hitler's rule and approximately two million in the entire area?

Nor is it the first time for "Holocaust" tales. There are two others. The Talmud: Gittin 57b claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 57b claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.

The tendency for exaggeration appears to remain unchanged.

Auschwitz has become synonomous with the Holocaust, as a place of methodical extermination of Jews. Such is the power of propaganda that if anything, true or false, is repeated often enough, it becomes accepted without any honest attempt to verify the facts.

Could such a place have been equipped with a social-educational centre with concerts run by and for the internees? And a swimming pool? Certainly the pool has appeared in published reproductions of various wartime aerial photographs.

Confirmation that such facilities existed appeared in no less a source than The Jerusalem Post (domestic edition), January 25, 1995 on Page 7.

The article, written by a university professor, Daniel K..:


... Jewish children's choir at Auschwitz-Birkenau in 1943 ... I was a member of that choir ... my first engagement with culture, with history, and with music in the camp... ...In 1944 I was severely ill with diphtheria and was sent to the camp hospital barracks."


Hardly what would be expected in a "death" camp. The truth is that Auschwitz-Birkenau were in fact labour camps and included many nationalities and not only Jews as is the generally held belief.

To quote from the third part of the Reports of the delegates of the International Committee of the Red Cross on their actions in connection with the civilians held in the concentration camps in Germany (1945) (The original of this document is in French.)


..."(3)There are representatives for each nationality (French, Belgian - no other nationality was mentioned - but there are without doubt many others)...

"(4) There is a "Judenaltester"(representative of the Jews) responsible for the Jewish internees...

..."All along the road, the Polish roads to be more exact, which led from Teschen to Auschwitz, we met groups of men and women, guarded by SS, wearing the striped clothes of the concentration camps and forming little commandos (work detachments). These commandos worked either in agriculture or in the mines..."


A problem that always faces armies or any people in conditions of close confinement is lice. Auschwitz and the neighbouring camp at Birkenau had a serious outbreak of typhus in the summer of 1942, in which many people died, both inmates and guards. To contain the outbreak the "gas chambers" and extra showers were used for disinfestation of the inmates and their belongings using Zyklon B.

For more detailed, and expert, information on the above see The Rudolf Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the 'Gas Chambers' of Auschwitz by Germar Rudolf.

Certainly many people (both Jews and others) died in those camps. Certainly, after the German defeat in Russia, conditions, particularly the availability of food, were hard, but outright slaughter of millions ...? And why has there been only mention of the Jews? What of the other nationalities who died? Or don't they count?

The Gulags
Whilst the propaganda regarding the Nazi camp system has received endless publicity, the Gulags of the Soviet Union have received scant mention from the international Press.

The following brief resumé endeavours to supply some of the facts.

The Russian Revolution, master-minded by the trio Marx, Lenin and Trotsky and financed by international bankers, notably Kuhn Loeb, was a Jewish concern from the beginning. Its intention, in which it succeeded, was to destroy the fabric of the existing society of Russia by the eradication of both the peasant and the aristocracy. An undertaking in which the Gulags, the forced labour camps, played a crucial role.

Many of Stalin's henchmen like Lazar Moiseievich Kaganovich were Jewish internationalists as were most of the women around him. In 1937 only 5.7 per cent of the party were Jews although they formed a majority in the government, where many of them used Russian pseudonyms.

On the 5th September 1918, Dzerzhinsky was directed to implement Lenin's policy of Red Terror. By the end of 1919 there were 21 registered camps in Russia and 107 at the end of 1920.

During the early 1920s, the Soviet Union had developed two separate prison systems. The regular prison system which dealt with criminals and the "special" prison system, that dealt with "special" prisoners: i.e. priests, former tsarist officials, bourgeois speculators, etc., and fell under the control of the Cheka later known as the GPU, OGPU, NKVD and finally KGB. Eventually these two systems would unite and operate under the rules of the latter.

In the last decades of the tsarist rule, when a belated industrialisation spread across Russia, no one had attempted to explore and settle the far northern regions of the country, although it was already known to be rich in minerals. The climate was too harsh, the potential human suffering too great and Russian technology too primitive. The Soviet regime was however less troubled by such concerns.

The islands of the Solovetsky chain are an archipelago in the White Sea. The monastery complex had served as a prison before when Solovetsky monks had helped incarcerate the political opponents of the Tsar.

In a 1945 lecture on the history of the camps the system's chief administrator claimed that the camp system originated in Solovetsky in 1920 and, not only the camp system, but also the entire Soviet system of forced labour began there in 1926.

Solovetsky resembled the other Soviet prisons on the island. The extremes of cruelty and comfort were probably starker than elsewhere due to the special nature of the prisoners and the guards. Such camps were clearly unprofitable and had been from the start.

By the 10th November 1925 the need to make a better use of prisoners was recognised, but it was only with the appearance of Nastaly Aronovich Frenkel that a change in conception took place. He was a Jew who mysteriously rose from the prison rank to become one of the most influential of the Solovetvsky commissars and blessed with the backing of Yagoda, the Jewish People's Commissar of Internal Affairs, i.e. head of the NKVD.

According to Solzhenitsyn in the "Gulag Archipelago", it was Frenkel who personally invented the plan where the quantity of food given to prisoners depended on the amount of work done, and attempted to run the camp as a going concern. This deadly labour system would destroy weaker prisoners within a matter of weeks and cause uncounted numbers of deaths.

Prisoners were transported eastwards by rail and to the north in conditions so horrendous as to be barely credible, crowded into wagons with minimal food and water without basic toilet facilities.

In 1929 the Soviet regime also accelerated the process of collectivisation in the countryside. A vast upheaval that was more profound than the Russian Revolution itself. Within an incredibly short time rural commissars forced millions of peasants to give up their small land holdings and to join collective farms after expelling them from land their families had tilled for centuries.

The transformation permanently weakened Soviet agriculture and created the conditions for the terrible devastating famines in the Ukraine and Southern Russia in 1932 and 1934. Famines that killed between six and seven million people. Collectivisation destroyed forever rural Russia's sense of continuity with the past.

Was this merely a forerunner of "globalisation"? An echo of the whole idea of destroying the link of people with the land by the destruction of the peasant and the aristocrat?

By the middle of the 1930s the Gulag system had 300,000 inmates at its disposal, dispersed amongst a dozen or so camp complexes and a few smaller sites.

Their existence was not completely secret but no one publicised them either. From 1929 onwards the OGPU shouldered part of the responsibility for the Soviet Union's development. They planned and equipped geological expeditions which sought to identify coal, oil, gold, nickel and other metals that lay beneath the frozen tundra of the Arctic and sub-Arctic regions of the Soviet far north.

Prisoners were sent into areas where there was nothing, no housing, no preparation, inadequate tools, hardly any food and freezing temperatures.

Appalling though the conditions were, they did vary from camp to camp and depended upon the humanity of the camp commissars and the guards. As happens when people are herded together, hierachies developed among the prisoners. The most powerful being the professional criminals who had their own set of rules and conversed in what was virtually their own language using words based on Hebrew and Yiddish.

The total humber of forced labourers in the USSR over the entire period is given as 28.78 million. Kruschev himself spoke of 17 million passing through the labour camps between 1937 to 1953. Of these how many died? It is impossible to assess accurate figures as no completely reliable death statistics have appeared.

And now? In whose hands lie the fruits of the death and misery of millions? A glance at the names of the present Russian Oligarchs gives the answer. Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Abramovich, Gusinsky, Fridman - all Jewish.

Mention or concern for the plight of the Palestinian victims of Israel is also another feature missing from international Press coverage.

The idea of a conspiracy, an attempt at world power, without doubt reads like some science fiction story. Before dismissing it as such, the following questions should be asked:

Why the desire for control of the Media?
Why the monetary control?
Why the economic control?
Why the evidence of Jewish involvement in revolutions?
Whatever the answer, the fact remains that, at this moment, control of the world and everything in it is slipping into the grasp of people whose motives are suspect.

Anti-Semitic? No, merely a desire for that elusive commodity, the truth. Without doubt there are many Jewish people who are unaware of the aspirations of others of their kind. In any case, the term "Anti-Semitic" is a misnomer as it includes the many Semitic peoples who are not Jews and who are themselves victims of the same agenda, added to which the supposition that all Jews are Semitic is incorrect. Many of them are descendants of the Khazar Ashkenazim from north-eastern Russia which makes the justice of the existence of Israel more tenuous than it already is.

A correct definition of Jewish people is: mainly non-Semitic adherents of an ancient Hebrew sect that aspires to world dominion.

Perhaps a better term than "Anti-Semitic" would be "Pro-Goyim"."

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[Wimpy]

So many people in this bowel...I mean "truth" movement just can't accept the fact that the people who so many people over the years have said have been doing all of this shit that we see happening to us now are the same ones that SAID that they are "Chosen" above all of the COMMON ANIMALS and WILL create a "New World Order."  What in the Hell is wrong with people that they can not accept the FACT that the Talmudists said that the creation of a New World Order is a "Catholic" ideal?

Lord Lindsey,

I am not aware of this fact and would appreciate any documented evidence, statement, etc.  Thank you in advance.  Is this sarcasm?

[LordLindsey]

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LINDSEY