Blue Spiral Over Norway Failed Missile? Why Must Everything

[LordLindsey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5_8MVctp30

READ THE COMMENTS.  "The people" know a lie when it is THIS obvious, so it stands to reason that nearly every other lie so easily seen for what it is by US should be as easily seen by "the people" if given the choice and without fear of the consequences of telling the truth in a ZOG.  Folks, I don't give a DAMNED what anyone from the government or a university says...that was not a missile test gone wrong and for once it seems that nearly everyone who has viewed the videos or saw it first-hand are calling the news reporters and those giving the "official explanation" out for the LIARS THAT THEY ARE.

After reading the comments, another thought entered into my mind--WHY MUST NEARLY EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE TOLD BE A LIE?  Why?  You reach a point where this becomes so completely surreal that you are left with the realization that you can never, EVER trust anything that is an "official explanation" and if this is the case how can society ever truly function normally?  IT CAN'T.  When you know that someone or something is lying to you, and IT IS THE JOB OF THAT SOMEONE OR SOMETHING TO LIE TO YOU, then there can never be any level of trust, nor can there ever be any level of REAL cooperation; after reading through hundreds of these comments I realize that if we are being lied to about something that is THIS obvious and creepy instead of the "powers-that-be" just admitting that it is unknown at this point-in-time, then it should ALSO be a very easy thing to show "the people" how the media and the "powers-that-be" are lying about WHO is controlling the money, politics, corporations, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum.

LINDSEY

NB:  This is one of the most disturbing events that I have ever seen on video, and I would really appreciate others' opinions on this event because SOMETHING extraordinary happened in Norway, and THOSE WHO WITNESSED IT PERSONALLY WILL NEVER FORGET IT.

[joeblow]

As a life-long member of the Conspiracy Community, I have grown to despise anything remotely related to UFOs/Extra-terrestrial, since Bill Cooper exposed it as a purely Military Psy-Op of their secret projects. I speak Swedish, so I finally decided to see what the Norwegians themselves say about this:

1. The Norwegians first declared it to be a failed rocket launched from a Russian submarine.
2. Norwegian scientists said that they have never seen its like in the skies.
3. Russians deny that they had anything to do with "lysfenomenet" (the light phenomenon).
4. It was reported that the entire population of northern Norway witnessed the event.
5. It lit up the sky for several minutes around 8am Thursday morning.
6. The Russian navy sent the following message during the occurrence: COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 94 SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA 1.ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 07 DEC TO 0600 08 DEC 09 DEC 0200 TO 0900.

The current theory being proposed on Norwegian news is that it was a rocket fired from a Russian warplane.

http://www.tv2nyhetene.no/innenriks/rus ... 51818.html

[LordLindsey]

LOOK AT THE PHOTOS AND WATCH THE FULL VIDEOS AND TELL ME THAT THAT WAS A ROCKET.

I am SO sick of being lied to and I know in my heart that this is not what life is meant to be in any way, shape, or form.  When something happens, we all deserve to know as much truth as is possible in order to make INFORMED DECISIONS regarding either the event(s) and/or the after-effects.  I know what I saw on video, and I HAVE NEVER, EVER SEEN ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY SIMILAR TO THIS IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.  Joe, stop sitting-on-the-fence and admit that this was more than just creepy, it was disturbing.  It doesn't matter what you think about UFO's or anything else like that, what MATTERS IS your lying eyes saw something that SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE SKY, whether it was physical or some kind of "Project Bluebeam" test to gauge the reaction of the world.  Either way, I AM SICK OF NEARLY EVERYTHING THAT WE SEE COMING FROM "OFFICIAL SOURCES" BEING OBVIOUS LIES AND OBFUSCATION, and after seeing the video of whatever the Hell that thing was you can say that that was still a missile and feel comfortable BELIEVING THAT, then what else can I say except there are some truths/possibilities that some people simply can not broach.

I have read most of the comments, and I have to say that I am very proud of the fact that the people who have seen this know that they are being lied to and are probably not EVER going to believe most anything else that is told to them by the mainstream media ever again.  The main reason that I said to READ THE COMMENTS is because if people can not accept the fact that the Talmudists/Zionists are literally creating a slave system across the world, they DO KNOW that the media is putting-out complete bullshit as truth and that means if we can find a way to push the proof that we have of what is happening acorss the world in a meaningful way to be seen by "the people" across the world, then we have a chance to change MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of peoples' minds forever about what is really happening to them.

I did not know what to think about this until I watched the whole video, and when that BLACK HOLE appeared after the spiralling ended, I felt the very same reaction that everyone else felt after watching this--shaken to the point of physical unease.  I have said how I feel about this, and I am very curious as to what the rest of you feel about this.  I have ALSO explained why I feel the way that I do when saying that the "official story" is complete bullshit, and I would like to see the same because if this event was not a failed missile launch *with its blue light and BLACK HOLE and PERFECT SPIRAL and BRIGHT BLUE BEAM and on and on and on* then WHAT IN THE HELL WAS IT?

LINDSEY

NB:  If this WAS a failed missile, then where was the sound?  Where was ANY sound, much less an explosion?  Why was there such a BRIGHT BLUE LIGHT when that is not indicative of a SOLID-FUEL ROCKET?  Why was a PERFECT SPIRAL produced when an errant missile should have made something much more chaotic?  WHY WAS THERE A BLACK HOLE FORMED AT THE END OF THE EVENT?  For Christ's sake, people, there ARE things that are not just about Talmudists, politics, and the like that deserve REAL answers and accountability; if you can watch this event in its entirety and just blow it off as "failed missile test" without any concern, then you can do something that MOST people can not do after seeing the video and photos--I know because many, many people I personally know feel exactly the same way that I do regarding this issue, and NONE OF THEM believe the "official story."

[LordLindsey]

"brian78045 (4 hours ago) Show Hide +2   Marked as spam Reply Missile? With a beam of light hitting the near perfect spiral from the ground. I'm sorry, but missiles don't emit beams, and missiles out of control don't produce such near perfect colored spirals.

So folks, here we have CBS knowingly lying about the spiral, so what does that tell you about 9/11? "

THIS is what happens when lies-upon-lies-upon lies are piled upon the heads of "the people."  EVENTUALLY it gets to be so stinking, so filthy, so un-avoidable that people begin putting it all together and realize that even IF this is not some kind of "V" moment, it is NOT what the "official story" says that it is.  If we can compile some kind of release or news report OF OUR OWN proving what we know about the Zionists' plans and their crimes and present this to the world on a national medium, then we have a real chance to set the wheels into motion of getting "the people" motivated to not just accept what is happening to them, but to get them to care and demand accountability for the literal crimes being committed against them.  

If nothing else, this event in Norway shows that "the people" are NOT willing to accept "official explanations" that are obvious bullshit, so as far as I am concerned there is hope that we can reach "the people" with THE TRUTH AS WE KNOW IT...as long as we have the opportunity to do it on a big scale like a major newspaper article, major interview NAMING NAMES, or in a real debate wherein the person on our side DOES NOT back-down and passionately tells it like it is to the point where anyone watching would never, EVER be able to simply forget what they just saw and are then compelled to say that we can't live like this any longer.  

LINDSEY

[Christopher Marlowe]

Proof that the Norway Spiral was not a missile


It's not rocket science.

If it was a missile that exploded over Norway on Wednesday, then I am Pope Benedict XVI. Everyone on this planet knows what a failed missile looks like - failed missiles and rockets have occurred thousands and thousands of times throughout history. In my world, when something fails catastrophically, it fails chaotically. There was nothing catastrophic or chaotic about the Norway spiral. Nothing about the Norway spiral looked anything like a "failure".

Clear reasons why this was NOT a missile:

1.) The missile theory is that a submarine, the Dmitri Donskoy, launched the Bulava missile from the White Sea early that morning. The attached picture 1 was taken in Tromso, Norway. So the people that claim this is a missile want me to believe that if I were to follow the blue trail to its source (picture 1) it would be 700 miles away - in the White Sea? The atmosphere is about 30 miles thick, therefore, the missile traveled at an angle that put it 700 miles away, before it reached 30 miles up? Do you realize how shallow of an angle that is? If I were to look up details about missiles, I guarantee intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM) are not launched at those types of angles.

2.) Further, if the missile WAS launched from the White Sea, how is it that no one in Finland, Sweden or Russia saw this event?

3.) Why in the world would Russia launch an ICBM near the land mass of Norway merely hours before the President of the United States of America arrived in Oslo to accept the Nobel Peace Prize for his effort in the disarmament of nuclear weapons? Wouldn't this have the potential for some negative effects and reactions? Further, why was Norway NOT INFORMED that Russia was going to do so?

4.) If this was a missile, then why are there TWO planes of trajectories shown in the attached pictures? One trajectory is the blue trail, the second "trajectory" is the white spiral light. If the white spiral IS a trajectory, then it is nearly PERFECTLY lined up with the angle in which the attached pictures were taken. You can tell this by measuring the widths of each of the white spirals. They are nearly identical. So this missile defied physics and made a significant change in direction mid-flight?

5.) You'll quickly notice that EVERY picture taken of this event appears to be taken from an angle in which the white spiral "trajectory" is perfectly in line with the camera. These pictures were taken from all over the length of northern Norway. Strange. It would appear the reason for this is that the white spiral "trajectory" is SO FAR AWAY from us, that from all viewpoints the angle is the same. Well, if this is so far away from us - couldn't we make a calculation of the speed in which the "exhaust / fuel" is speeding away from the center of the spiral, and wouldn't that speed be UNIMAGINABLY fast. Further the SIZE of the thing rotating in the middle of the spiral must be INCREDIBLY large.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxA0Asq2 ... re=related

6.) The size of the Bulava Missile is 12 meters long.

7.) The spiral lasted for over 10 minutes.

8.) What is the white stuff forming the large spiral that takes up most of the sky?

A.) Exhaust? Well have you ever seen exhaust move away from its source at the speed shown in the youtube video? Even if there was no atmospheric drag on the exhaust the speed it is going is unbelievable. Maybe water could travel at such a speed - water has more mass. Exhaust does not have the mass for it to move like that for minutes after it was expended. Think of the trail behind a jet.

B.) Fuel? Well why is fuel shooting up and away from the forces of gravity - allowing a perfect circle to be formed. Gravity is clearly not playing a role in the Norway Spiral but it should be because the formation was not seen directly overhead. If this was fuel, we'd see the effects of gravity.

C.) Whatever that stuff is, it filled an ENORMOUS fraction of the sky. All this originated from a 12 meter missile?



This reeks of a cover-up story. The media came up with the excuses and cover story before the Russian military even did. The Russian military finally got onboard, taking the media's lead saying "yeah, actually we DID fire a missile around that area, kinda - yeah!" (chuckle, chuckle, shuffle of boots). What's important to note is that the Russians HAVE NOT declared a link between the spiral and any fired missile (in case this story backfires). In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Russia never even launched a missile in the first place - but there's no way to prove that.

This cover-up story fell together so fast it nearly fell apart because people got in a hot panic to find an explanation for something they had no explanation for. Now the people at the top cannot fine tune the cover story to pass it off as something more believable because they were too quick to fuel the theory that the spiral was a failed rocket. Given enough time, and had no one panicked, then a better story could have been formulated.

Too late. Watch as more pictures and videos surface, and the missile theory completely falls apart. Unfortunately, by then most people will have written it off because all media outlets are reporting "mystery spiral solved". It's astonishing to me how people do not question these sorts of things.


THIS is the explanation that everyone is buying??? Really? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z-3fjg4dYY

Anyways, I have no idea what that spiral was. No clue. But I'm 100 percent certain it was not a missile or a rocket.

http://theworldriver.blogspot.com/

Personally, I don't know shit about nothing. This is all I have been able to figure out so far:

1. Spiral explosions are really cool.
2. Governments and MSM lie like their pants are on fire, hanging from a telephone wire. So Russia had a string of missile failures and decided to announce this to the world? Yes, that reminds me of the last time Russia had trouble with that SECRET WEAPON and announced it to the world. They said, "Hey! We're having trouble with this secret weapon.  Can some engineers help us?"
3. It is very cold in Norway. People have to put anti-freeze in their vodka.

[LordLindsey]

"This cover-up story fell together so fast it nearly fell apart because people got in a hot panic to find an explanation for something they had no explanation for. Now the people at the top cannot fine tune the cover story to pass it off as something more believable because they were too quick to fuel the theory that the spiral was a failed rocket. Given enough time, and had no one panicked, then a better story could have been formulated.

Too late. Watch as more pictures and videos surface, and the missile theory completely falls apart. Unfortunately, by then most people will have written it off because all media outlets are reporting "mystery spiral solved". It's astonishing to me how people do not question these sorts of things."

ALMOST NO ONE BELIEVES THE "OFFICIAL STORY"!!!  That's the most important point that "I" am trying to make here with this, and ALMOST ALL OF THE VIDEO COMMENTS.  How anyone could possibly look at the photos and WATCH THE FULL VIDEOS and STILL say that they believe the bullshit shows that for some people it is easier to believe a lie *whether you KNOW that it is a lie or not* than to admit to yourself that there are things that are happening in this world that would send literal shivers down your spine and make you lose sleep--the Talmudists' plan as outlined in the Protocols is the very best example that I can give.  THESE PEOPLE SAID WHAT THEIR PLANS WERE AND THEN WENT ABOUT FULFILLING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM--UNTIL THEY REACH THEIR FINAL PROTOCOL WHICH ENDS WITH THEM RULING OVER THE HUMAN SLAVES FOREVER.  Complete and utter insanity...if EVERY SINGLE PROTOCOL was not being fulfilled literally right in front of our eyes.  

Whatever happened over Norway deserves a truthful explanation, but most importantly, has shown that "the people" DO have the ability to know a lie when it is told to them and that should give all of us hope that we can reach "the people" with the truth as we know it to be through the many years of hard work, research, and confessions of these maniacal Zionists.  

LINDSEY

[MikeWB]

Why does everything that happens have to be a conspiracy of some kind? Why is everything that happens "planned to happen"? Why doesn't stuff in conspiracists' world happen by chance?

I just don't get this mindset and yet it's very common in the conspiracy world. Personally, I think people who claim that everything that happens is a conspiracy have lost it and should just get out of this mindset and enjoy life and nature for a while. They'll just lose their mind completely if they continue. Just look at the Jeff Rense's roster of guests... they all begun as rational people and now 50% of them are just totally insane.

Sure, these types of people are eventually "right" about something being a conspiracy but they think that EVERYTHING is a conspiracy! So yeah, they're right about Event A being a conspiracy but they're also wrong about Event B,C,D,E,F, etc being a conspiracy. They're like people who believe in psychics and count only their hits and ignore all the misses.

Lindsey, you seem to be extremely sure that this was not a rocket. Are you an expert in rockets or these types of weapons?

No amount of capitalization is a substitute for substantiation with some kind of a proof.

Just few hours after this event an engineer unraveled this mystery by doing a simple simulation with a common 3D program... and the beauty of it is that everyone can repeat it:
[youtube:19hykmu8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4[/youtube]19hykmu8]

The first claim of this being some kind of a conspiracy came from Richard Hoagland: http://www.enterprisemission.com/Norway-Message.htm He's actually a very clever conman. He not crazy but he's definitely a publicity hound and he makes up all kind of crazy shit to generate some publicity so he can sell his books and videos. He takes any current event and weaves some kind of a conspiracy story around it by combining it with something else. In this case, he combines it with some kind of a anti-gravity weapon bullshit. He does this with everything... just look at his homepage. The last stunt he pulled was to combine his bullshit theories with 2012. Every one of these conmen is now hyping up 2012 and they're all making money from it and riding on the publicity wave.

Until all these people who claim that this is something else can provide some kind of a proof or a mechanism of operation that actually makes some sense, I'll just group this claim of conspiracy together with little green alien theories.

[LordLindsey]

I stand by what I have said.  The event lasted for several MINUTES, there was NO sound or explosion shown to have occurred as far as I have seen, and many more anomalies that I don't need to repeat.  Sometimes it simply doesn't matter what someone can show is POSSIBLE on a computer; sometimes you can just look at something and know that until conclusive proof is shown that the "official story" is indeed true, it is NOT.  Mike, you know better than this, mainly because the "official story" is that anything that Israel does it does for the greater good, that there is NO conspiracy among the bankers and their cabal to further a Protocol-driven agenda for the complete enslavement of humanity, there most certainly is NO conspiracy to poison "the people" with fluoride in the water and "flavor enhancers" in the food, any "conspiracy theory" arguing that the Jesuits and The Church has been thoroughly infilitrated by "The Chosen" is simply ABSURDDDD!!!! *www.jewishjesuits.com*, and on and on and on and ad infinitum--AGAIN.

Why is it that some people who honestly-to-God KNOW the truth about "political" issues are so blind to matters of either ethereal or "paranormal" nature; I am not saying that the "Norwegian event" was either, but I AM saying that nearly EVERYONE who has seen the videos, photos, and/or are eyewitnesses are NOT buying this "official story" and until I have seen REAL PROOF that this was what the "official story" says that it is, NEITHER WILL I--EVER.

LINDSEY

NB:  "Norway Cloud Spiral - Simulation of possible explanation"

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[LordLindsey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GSa2wRtZRI

1.  "WeatherFails (3 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply Mxracer, I only allow EDUCATED opinions on my articles, videos, etc.

Opinions are what made the human race halt in technology ,etc.

You want to be one of the 10%, prove it, other than that, you are one of the 90% of bottommost in this world that can be done without."

2.  "WeatherFails (3 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply Mxrace, some should not even be allowed to have an opinion in this world if they cannot understand simple things like this."
3.  "WeatherFails (3 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply What I do best. You are one of the 10% that are more advanced than the other 90%."

4.  "WeatherFails (4 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply Anyone that believes it was anything other than a missile when Russia said to clear the airspace around the White Sea the day of, do not bother leaving comments.

I only associate with smart people. That is my kind, not blind humans."

5.  "WeatherFails (16 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply I'll allow this to be posted because it brings a question. Your question is simple. Look closely, it is moving up to the left-upper, but very slowly. It is 500 miles away, and something that far would be tough to see moving in several minutes, especially if it was moving at an angle away from the observer a bit.
It is a missile, I've seen it from Vandenberg many times, people need to grow a brain and understand what no gravity does to a spinning missile stage."

6.  "WeatherFails (22 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply I cannot accept comments from human brains that simple cannot compute angles, and depth perception, sorry, but I'm advanced in the brain, I know math and science.Good day ..."

7.  "WeatherFails (1 day ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply All comments that are totally ignorant will not be post. I have experience with this and it was a missile out of control.
Math has solved it, the end."
Yeppers...this has convinced me!  I am relieved knowing that "my brain" can comprehend "the math" that has conclusively proven that this phenomenon never before seen or recorded anywhere near this scale based upon the evidence shown thus far was, indeed, nothing more than an OUT-OF-CONTROL Russian rocket.  See, Mike, you and I are in the top 10% now!!  I feel so much better now...

LINDSEY

[MikeWB]

Still no proof of any kind. Just a bunch of nutty comments from moronic posters on YT. Personally, I never read comments on YT because they're mostly extra-stupid.

Post some proof Lindsey if you want to convince us. No amount of empty rhetoric will substitute for anything rational.

PS: This is not a popularity contest. I don't give a rat's ass what others think. I'm just telling you that this "conspiracy" about some stupid light from a failed rocket is totally idiotic (in my opinion of course). Arguing for this just takes away a person's  credibility when they attack plausible and rational conspiracies.

[LordLindsey]

There is NO proof either way, Mike, and this is the problem.  Anyone can say anything when and if something very serious is involved, so until there is conclusive proof that this event was a missile launch or whatever it is SUPPOSED to be, it's all opinions.  Billions of people believe in "God" and that requires NO proof, but we have video, photos, and eyewitness accounts of something absolutely stunning having occurred, and to me this is important because I have never, EVER seen anything like this before now in my life.

LINDSEY

[scorpio]

This is a difficult one to call, for me at least.
I have seen more than a few rocket launches  from Air Force Bases back when I lived in southern cali.
None of them ever look like that - most noticeably the color.
There have been plenty of failed launches in the past.
Has there ever been any record of a similar occurrence?
It is a bad sign, however, that Hoagland is pushing this
as some kind of a secret illuminati weapon.
He's been pushing kooky theories since the Art Bell days.

[MikeWB]

There is NO proof either way, Mike, and this is the problem.  Anyone can say anything when and if something very serious is involved, so until there is conclusive proof that this event was a missile launch or whatever it is SUPPOSED to be, it's all opinions.  Billions of people believe in "God" and that requires NO proof, but we have video, photos, and eyewitness accounts of something absolutely stunning having occurred, and to me this is important because I have never, EVER seen anything like this before now in my life.

LINDSEY

There's plenty of proof that it's a rocket. We have the pictures, Russian launch warning and even a model of how it happened and a simulation that agrees with pictures and shows that it's likely that it's a rocket. What do you have? Absolutely nothing. I consider Aurora Borealis stunning as well and yet I don't spring into a conspiracy-mode or supernatural-mode about that and don't need myths about divine powers or super-weapons to explain it. And no amount of capitalization on your part will change that. Provide some credible proof and a method of operation of what you think it is and you might change my mind. Until then, this whole episode is just a bunch of nonsense.

And don't even get me started on gods.

My mind is still open on this issue but you'll have to provide some credible evidence that it's not a rocket. Reference this video on what I consider to be open mindedness... and it might also fix some of the flaws in thinking.

[youtube:9bexppar]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI[/youtube]9bexppar]

[LordLindsey]

Show us the photos of the rocket, Mike.  There is NO proof either way, and the supposed launch(es) ended well over one hour after this event, if any of this is even legitimate.  I want to see REAL proof of whatever this event was, and Scorpio, you are RIGHT.  This event was not like anything, anything at all, that you, Mike, I, or anyone else here has seen, and just because people are too damned afraid to speak-up and admit that this was one of the most incredible events ever recorded on video and that it DOES NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE A ROCKET doesn't mean that I am going to keep my opinions and feelings to myself.  

I am sick and tired of half-truths and outright LIES, and the whole Talmudist/Zionist angle does not corner the market on this.  GIVE US ONE PHOTO OF THE ROCKET IN QUESTION BEING FIRED AT THAT TIME, MIKE, AND I WILL SHUT MY MOUTH ON THIS ISSUE.

LINDSEY

[MikeWB]

Oh come on Lindsey, you need to learn a thing or two about evidence. It's like saying at a murder trial: "Provide an eye-witness or you don't have a case!" We don't need eye-witness testimony to convict someone and we don't need the rocket to prove that it was a rocket.

What evidence do you have? Instead of this empty posturing, how about providing something?

PS: You seem to fall for all kinds of nonsense when it fits your mental model of how things work. Case in point, you've raved about that guy who says that mind control can do all kinds of fantastic stuff... and yet the guy also says that he can shoot beams of energy out of his eyes. Come on man, use your head and be a little more skeptical. There's all kinds of bullshitters saying all kinds of nonsense just so they can get some attention. Just because something aligns with your mental model doesn't mean it's true.

[Tratzman]

A failed missile would rank right near the bottom of my list of possible explanations, right along with swamp gas.    My best guess right now isthat it's a Project Bluebeam-type test as there's a Haarp-like station in the very direction of where that blue beam (coincidence??) is headed.

Chad

[Chargeemquick]

I can`t see from the video why it was NOT a failed missile.As to "light beams" coming off it,that`s probably some kind of laser device.

What`s the big deal LordLindsey?

[joeblow]

Rense gives his view of the Blue Spiral that the Military Psy-Op crowd at Coast2CoastAM have been bullshitting people about. Surprisingly, he has the same low opinion of those who promote this nonsense as I do. Considering that even during the Bigfoot/UFO episodes he has, he always takes the reserved skeptic's position, I am only surprised that he forcibly calls out those who call this "PROOF OF PROJECT BLUE-BEAM!". He literally calls the hysteria about the failed missile launch in Norway "BULLSHIT". :lol:

http://tracker.umunu.com/torrents-details.php?id=1954

Name:   Jeff Rense Radio Show - 2009.12.16
Description:
Note - Hour 2 missing last 10 minutes

Hour 1 - Charles R. Smith - Military Geopolitical Analysis
Hour 2 - Webster Griffin Tarpley - Obama The Genocidal Killer
Hour 3 - Joel Skousen - World Affairs Brief

[LordLindsey]

No one has EVER seen anything even close to something like this, and I defy anyone to find one (1) article where anyone has said that they have.  Too many people are too afraid to admit that something looks and most certainly appears to be something that should not be, and this is one of those instances.  There are too damned many questions about this, and given what all of us know about the technologies that are hidden from humanity, how in the Hell can so many of you people just blow this off and THIS TIME BELIEVE THE "OFFICIAL STORY!?"  This is ridiculous, and as for Rense...he is NOT George Noory and his opinions are his opinions.  

You can not watch those videos and see those photographs and tell me that that was not the most impressive actually provable event that you have ever seen, and to be told that it was "a failed missile" simply doesn't wash with "ME" and with almost every single person who has seen this.  I know that Mike says that just because 99% people agree with something does not make it so, but in this case we know that what we saw was something spectacular and seemingly NEVER BEFORE SEEN--doesn't that seem strange with so many "missile tests" having taken place?

LINDSEY

NB:  I have said all that I need to say about this, and someone else has already posted why this can NOT be a "missile."  We all know that there aren't going to be any photos or videos of the ACTUAL "TEST" TAKING PLACE, so that's that.  I find it very interesting that only a very few here at TIU has anything to say about something like this, and I think that that says a lot about people being afraid to say how they feel either way about issues that are not ROCK SOLID, as is the case of who the true enemies of humanity are.  That's your preroragative, but I am not going to live "MY" life like that.

[Rockclimber]

I feel like I'm at Concen!  :lol:

[MikeWB]

I feel like I'm at Concen!  :lol:

Well, at least we don't have any new agers here who fight chemtrails with crystals and pyramids made out of copper wire  :lol:

But yeah, this whole topic of this rocket launch is a total waste of time. We have bigger things to worry about.

[Ognir]

Silly thread

[Jenny Lake]

Silly, agreed, in that we don't have enough information to make a good guess at what kind of 'test' that was. But the timing is intersesting --the Alien crowd is awaiting a big 'Disclosure' . OOo. The Hoaglands Coast-to-Coasters, and Project Camelots have been massaging a big Disclosure event for this particular time.