David Icke and Reptlians - ties back to Occult Fakery

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

I was looking at some research on Lemuria (a supposed Lost Continent) and came across a very interesting Wikipedia link that tied back to Helen Blavatsky (Occult "Theosophy" writer that helped give ideological birth to the early Nazis and their "Super men" from Hyperborea)

Here's the David Icke Crap:
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The Reptilian Agenda

Today we have a new movement lead by a man named David Icke. This movement promotes the existence and reality of the Reptilians. The idea of Reptilians is nothing new as it goes all the way back through time to the post era of Noah's flood. Reptilians have always been with us, but where never in the public consciousness until David Icke came along. It is pretty much the same story with UFOs.

There is much evidence to indicate that they have always been with us, but not until the staged event of Roswell took place in 1947 did they enter into the mind of the masses. Once in the mind of society, it then had to become folklore. In order to do this, the propaganda machine began to produce many B-movies repeating the same mind set that the aliens were here, and they were very hostile. This mind control from Hollywood is now at an all time high! There is a whole generation of children brainwashed by TV shows like Star Trek along with thousands of cartoons.

Reptilians according to Icke are creatures that look like humanoid lizards that can take human form and rule over us through political leadership. Also under the Reptilians we have the alien grays that take orders from the Reptilians. What is happening is that the governments of the world have been infiltrated by, and our working with the aliens. The major lie is that they are from outer space, but in fact they are from interdimensional areas on earth known as the spirit world. They control us from the forth dimension and NOT outer space. This outer space lie is pounded into our brains over and over again through movies and TV.

http://www.stargods.org/ReptilianAgenda.htm

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and here's the Lemuria article. Note the mention of Blavatsky and Reptilians... it's an old fake like the "hollow earth" theory...

After gaining some acceptance within the scientific community, the concept of Lemuria began to appear in the works of other scholars. Ernst Haeckel, a German Darwinian taxonomist, proposed Lemuria as an explanation for the absence of "missing link" fossil records. According to another source, Haeckel put forward this thesis prior to Sclater (but without using the name 'Lemuria').[4] Locating the origins of the human species on this lost continent, he claimed the fossil record could not be found because it had sunk beneath the sea.

Other scientists hypothesized that Lemuria had extended across parts of the Pacific oceans, seeking to explain distributions of species across Asia and the Americas.

Superseded

The Lemuria theory disappeared completely from conventional scientific consideration after the theories of plate tectonics and continental drift were accepted by the larger scientific community. According to the theory of plate tectonics (now the only accepted paradigm in geology), Madagascar and India were indeed once part of the same landmass (thus accounting for geological resemblances), but plate movement caused India to break away millions of years ago, and move to its present location. The original landmass broke apart - it did not sink beneath sea level.

In 1999, drilling by the JOIDES Resolution research vessel in the Indian Ocean discovered evidence [1] that a large island, the Kerguelen Plateau, was submerged about 20 million years ago by rising sea levels. Samples showed pollen and fragments of wood in a 90 million-year-old sediment. Although this discovery might encourage scholars to expect similarities in dinosaur fossil evidence, and may contribute to understanding the breakup of the Indian and Australian land masses, it does not support the concept of Lemuria as a land bridge for mammals.

Blavatsky, Elliot, Bramwell and Churchward

Lemuria entered the lexicon of the Occult through the works of Helena Blavatsky, who claimed in the 1880s to have been shown an ancient, pre-Atlantean Book of Dzyan by the Mahatmas. According to L. Sprague de Camp, Blavatsky was influenced[weasel words] by other writers on the theme of Lost Continents, notably Ignatius L. Donnelly, American cult leader Thomas Lake Harris and the French writer Louis Jacolliot.[citation needed]

Within Blavatsky's complex cosmology, which includes seven "Root Races", Lemuria was occupied by the "Third Root Race", described as about seven foot tall, sexually hermaphroditic, egg-laying, mentally undeveloped and spiritually more pure than the following "Root Races". Before the coming of the Lemurians, the second "Root Race" is said to have dwelled in Hyperborea. After the subsequent creation of mammals, Mme Blavatsky revealed to her readers, some Lemurians turned to bestiality. The gods, aghast at the behavior of these "mindless" men, sank Lemuria into the ocean and created a "Fourth Root Race"—endowed with intellect—on Atlantis.[citation needed]

One of the most elaborate accounts of lost continents was given by the later theosophical author William Scott Elliott. The English theosophist said he received his knowledge from the Theosophical Masters by "astral clairvoyance." In 1896, in "The Story of Atlantis & The Lost Lemuria", he described the continent of Lemuria as stretching from the east coast of Africa across the Indian and the Pacific Oceans.[citation needed]

James Bramwell described Lemuria in his book, Lost Atlantis, as "a continent that occupied a large part of what is now the South Pacific Ocean."[5] Bramwell described the people of Lemuria in detail and attributed them with being one of the "root-races of humanity." According to Bramwell, Lemurians are the ancestors of the Atlanteans, who survived the period "of the general racial decadence which affected the Lemurians in the last stages of their evolution." From "a select division of" the Atlanteans - after their promotion to decadence - Bramwell claims the Aryan race arose. "Lemurians, Atlanteans, and Aryans are root-races of humanity," according to Bramwell.[6]

James Churchward, another prolific writer on the theme of lost lands, identified Lemuria with Mu.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Some Edgar Cayce predictions about Bimini in the Bahamas on Atlantis... pretty interesting read...

http://atlantis.haktanir.org/ch7.html

[abduLMaria]

i refuse to watch the Icke video's, not worth the time.

i know a woman who is a big Rense consumer; i have the impression that Rense is a primary distributor of Icke-isms.

i know the woman from anti-war rallies.

she is CONVINCED that Dick Cheney is a Reptilian, because of a video she saw.

i don't know how to break it to her, and certainly won't spend a lot of time.  but .... back in 2004, Maxim magazine had a centerfold who was 100% CG.  all those guys wanking off to virtual reality.

another example of the state of the CG art - Ken Debevec's "Emily" -
http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_debevec_a ... _face.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90AU6D8qEhc

this technology was presented in 2009, but it was operational before 2009.

long story short - CGI achieved photo-real in or about 2004, and the guys that did it have not been on vacation since.  they've been working on movies like Avatar, which is mostly CGI - synthespians.

yet people are still tricked by videos of "Dick Cheney the Reptilian."

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Anything "Reptilian" is a sign of a shill in this whole story. That's really the basis for this for this. Icke and others are pulling their sources from a definitely poisoned well-head known as Theosophy.

The basis for "Reptilians" is simply over-imaginative "thesophists" in the last 1800s making up Sci-Fi type stories. In fact, many of these stories would inspire people like Sprague De Camps and  Asimov in the 1940s along with the "Trap Door Spiders" group.   It's not good at all that people like Icke and Rense who entertain "Reptilian" B.S.  also are against Zionism and general Talmudistic-Jew Ripoffs of Gentiles-Goyim.  This is all Sci-Fi spiritualist B.S. through and through.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_Door_Spiders

[scorpio]

she is CONVINCED that Dick Cheney is a Reptilian, because of a video she saw.

Yeah - David Icke is really raking in the cash with his outlandish science fiction theories.

I actually met Dick Cheney one time. I sat with him at a table over lunch....One of the strangest experiences of my life.
It was very scary and he was one of the most evil people I have ever been been around.

[Jenny Lake]

I've read Blavatsky --still have her books, though not handy-- and Do Not recall ever reading about egg-laying pre-mammal humanoids. She had some interesting ideas and they've been "backed up", rightly or wrongly, by science. One of those is that the Persian Magi tradition claims an 80,000 year-old heritage and this corresponds to a population bottleneck that was said to have occurred 75,000-80,000 years ago from a Supervolcano eruption near Sumatra, discovered by Human Genome Project scientists calculating the mitochondrial mutation "clock". If the "vimanas" of the Mahabharata (Rig Veda) are authentic, then there have been advanced technological civilizations in prehistory. Forbidden Archeology is a tantalizing book, imo. Cremo and co-author say the Evolutionists/Eugenicists had a powerful control over archeology. Makes sense --these guys held their first meetings in the Natural History Museum in NYC.
I think there's a very deep symbolism and drug tradition involved. The Magi had expert ancient drug knowledge--- these overtones play out all through the major religions.