Alex Jones' Handlers - the Jews and his Fat Ego...with notes on Crypto Mossad Agent Adnan Khashoggi

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

An interesting post from Binky Clownster over at Argue with Everyone.... maybe somebody we know?  

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Alex Jones' Handler - Confirmed Mossad Agent Adnan Khashoggi



    Alex Jones' connections with the Israeli Mossad and the Jewish Mafia through Mossad agent Adnan Kashoggi, the Genesis Communications Network, the international Church of Scientology, and Jewess, Violet Nichols (Violet Jones) - based on the findings from Michael Hopsicker, Victor Ostrovsky, and the documentary film "Secret Rulers of the World."

    "From their base in Tampa Florida, Khashoggi and El Batrawi controlled a network of companies, all using the word "Genesis" in
    their name. The number of Khashoggi-owned Genesis companies we've found keeps growing. There is, or was, Genesis Aviation, Inc., Genesis Aviation II, Genesis Diversified Investments, Genesis Studio and Production Corp., Genesis Media Group, Genesis Properties, Genesis Intermedia; GenesisIntermedia.com.; Genesis Delaware; Genesis Florida... The list, it do go on. And on."
    ...

    And then there's the Genesis Communications Network. There's actually two of them, seemingly unrelated, but they're so extremely similar in the fraud department to each other and to "SaudiGenesis " that the relationship appears strongly familial. We're still uncertain as to how close they all are; kissing cousins, at the very least.

    The first GCN is a so-called "patriot" network hosting Alex Jones and Dave Van Kliest, the, ah, the individual fronting for the latest See the Flash extravaganza, advertisements for which are spamming the Internet at a rate that must be causing concern among conservationists of our digital landscape of '1's and ' 0's.' VanKliest is our pick for Disinfotainer of the Year... an especial honor, considering that there was some fierce competition. Of course, "See the Flash Dave" from the powerhour, like Alex Jones, is part of theGENESIS Communications Network."

    - Michael Hopsicker, MadCow Morning News

    Through its relationship with Saudi Arabian billionaire Adnan Khashoggi, who had been recruited as an agent,* the Mossad knew another Saudi who was a legitimate European arms dealer. He had the rights to supply Uzis and other weapons to the private market in Europe. The plan was to get Khashoggi's friend to provide the necessary U.S.-made arms to fill Arafat's order. They would, of course, be presented as having been stolen from various stockpiles at European military bases.

    At this time, Mossad katsa Daniel Aitan, using the cover name Harry Stoler, contacted Isam Salem, Arafat's man in East Berlin. Arafat had not even asked him to get the weapons yet, but thanks to Kasim's ongoing communications, the Mossad knew he would soon do so and decided to get in one step ahead.

    The German-speaking Aitan, a straightforward individual, presented himself to Salem as "Harry Stoler," a businessman who dealt in what he referred to as "various equipment and materials." Most important of all, he told Salem, he could guarantee good prices and secure delivery. Stoler also told Salem that while he avoided getting into politics, he thought the Palestinian cause was just, and he hoped to see them succeed.

    They made another appointment to meet. Even though Salem was PLO and so considered dangerous, they knew he was not involved in terrorist activities in Europe. The katsa's safety was therefore not in question, and, indeed, Salem fell for the pitch completely.

    At the next discreet meeting — called "a meeting in four eyes," or
    just the two of them — Stoler mentioned that from time to time he
    learned of "stray equipment" from U.S. military bases in Germany
    • items with a short-term life on the outside. He said he could also take orders for such "back door" deliveries if Salem was interested.
    page 258-259 "By Way of Deception" - Victor Ostrovsky

    And so, with Arafat's shopping list in hand, the Mossad went to Khashoggi's Saudi dealer friend to fill the order. Aloony, a military man, was told he would be responsible for checking the equipment and making sure it was sealed for delivery to Lebanon.

    The weapons were brought by truck to Hamburg. The Mossad didn't tell the Germans. But if we had happened to meet them, we would have explained.
    page 260 "By Way of Deception" - Victor Ostrovsky




    Hopsicker continued

    A short list of Khashoggi's strange past:

    • Saudi Billionaire: owns a mansion and a yacht
    • Connected to almost every major global conspiracy in the last
    50 years
    Quote:Arms Dealers + BCCI + Beatles + Bin Laden + Bush + Contras + Diana + Drug Dealers + Iran + Iraq + JFK + 9/11 ... Uncle of Dodi Fayed, Diana, lover of Paul McCartney's wife, Queen wrote a song about his yacht, attended Cal State Chico Convicted in absentia of fraud in Thailand.

    Joseph A. Ball — the principal author of the Warren Commission report — represented Khashoggi in his 1980 divorce from Soraya Khashoggi.
    After the death of her second husband, Jackie Kennedy was romantically involved with Khashoggi.

    Khashoggi's daughter Nabila, his former wife Lamia Khashoggi (formerly Laura Biancolini) and Ali Khashoggi are high level members of the Church of Scientology.

    Khashoggi secretly contributed to Richard Nixon's 1968 presidential campaign. He attended Nixon's funeral in 1994. (wasn't Nixon a member of Bohemian Grove? There is an Alex Jones connection to Bohemian Grove through the GCN owner) Theresa LePore was supervisor of elections in Palm Beach County during the disputed 2000 election. In the 1980s, when she was chief deputy supervisor of elections, she moonlighted as a "flight attendant" on private planes owned by Adnan Khashoggi. Robert G. Morvillo was the lawyer who got Khashoggi aquitted for siphoning money to Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos. (Morvillo was not so lucky with Martha Stewart). In the 1960s and 1970s, Morvillo served in the U.S. attorney's office for the Southern District of New York where he mentored a young assistant U.S. attorney named Rudolph Giuliani.

    Khashoggi met with Richard Perle shortly before the American invasion of Iraq in 2003.

    Khashoggi owns the Genesis Communications Network which syndicates the Alex Jones Show. Jones — a central figure in the "9/11 Truth" movement — advocates of the theory that the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks were government produced hoaxes. Jones also filmed the "Cremation of Care" ceremony at Bohemian Grove in 2000. GCN also syndicates Jeff Rense, who has promoted the cocaine-fueled reptoid hallucinations of James Casbolt. GCN also hosts Dave Von Kleist, an outspoken advocate of the invisible elfin demolition team theory for 9/11.

    Khashoggi was partner/financial backer of John "Men are from Mars" Gray, connected through Genesis Intermedia. Khashoggi's longtime business partner Ramy El-Batrawi was CEO and Chairman of the company, and was even executive producer of gray's 1997 CD, "Men are fromMars, Women are from Venus - Songs for Loving Couples." (Gray claims he was victimized by Khashoggi's stock scams.) Gray is a prominent member of the 9/11 Truth movement.

    Last edited by BinkyClowner; 03-05-2009 at 10:28 PM.


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Something to keep in mind on Khashoggi and the Golden Lily loot:

Another gold certificate was issued on January 17, 1963 by Unions Bank of Switzerland. The certificate was issued to Adnan Kasogi. Adnan Kasogi was actually Adnan Khashoggi, a Marcos crony. Khashoggi's name was misspelled, but that is often the case in these certificates. Khashoggi was a Lockheed agent and partner of Yoshio Kodama. Kodama was a Japanese rear admiral during the war and also a member of the Japanese Yakuza crime clan. Kodama was charged with shipping the loot to the Philippines during the war. This gold certificate was issued just before Lockheed paid the first known bribe to Prince Bernhard. Lockheed was being used by the CIA to funnel money worldwide. Moreover, Lockheed's European Sales Director, Dutchman Fred Meuser, had been a member of Prince Bernhard's wartime air force squadron. An additional member of the Lockheed bribe team was CIA officer Nicholas Deak. Deak had founded a money brokering firm that was used to funnel money to Kodama. Deak's company later merged with Lionel C. Perera, who founded the money firm of Perera, Manfra & Brookes. Perera was attached to the Chief of Military Government Finance Office at the Third Army's headquarters in Germany at war's end, where he interviewed Colonel Rauch. Rauch was the SS colonel responsible for hiding the Reich Bank gold reserves.
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While the largest portions of the Nazi hoard and the Golden Lily remains shrouded under a curtain of mystery and controversy a good deal is known about smaller caches that have been recovered. Until recently, little was known about America's acquisition of treasures from the war. Much mystery still remains and undoubtedly more caches will surface with additional time. Although Congress passed legislation requiring the return to Germany of much of this material, the bulk of it remains stored in the American archives and private collections. The legislation has been supported by court rulings. Only after Clinton authorized Eizenstat to reach a settlement on unclaimed assets has the New York Federal Reserve admitted to holding two tons of Nazi gold. There has been little effort to return the war booty.

http://www.aracnet.com/~gdy52150/goldp10.html

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

From MadCow in 2004 on A.J. and his famous jet-setting Turkish Born "Arab" backer at GCN... I once suggested trying to get Daniel Hopsicker on TIU just to see what he is all about.  BTW, if this is all proven as B.S. somewhere don't hesitate to provide the info from credible sources. --The CSR

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http://www.madcowprod.com/MC6812004.html

also interesting on his link to 9/11:

http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs0 ... i-911.html

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"John-Boy of Arabia"

Constantine's litany of miscreants form the backbone of the organization we call "Saudi Genesis,"  whose backing and marketing prowess made John Gray a franchise and a household name, we discovered.

Here's what happened:  Men Are From Mars was not an instant hit when it was first published. Almost ten months after its release, Gray's flagship book had received little acclaim and climbed no best seller lists.

Enter Adnan Khashoggi and lieutenant Ramy El Batrawi, who, we learned, has also used the nom de guerre "Remy Al-Batswani," while running an air carrier for Khashoggi used in illegal shipments of arms to Iran which was eventually placed on the State Department's list of "unsavory" companies and barred from doing business with any agency of the U.S. Government. ( link )

"It took a year to get on the best-seller list," said Jack McKeown, president and publisher of HarperCollins trade group, in an interview.' John Gray is the beneficiary of a turbocharged marketing campaign, in which the author is an active partner."

So John Gray owes his huge success and resulting fortune to Khashoggi's "Saudi Genesis," an intricate web of rapidly changing corporate fronts and dummy corporations with the word "Genesis" in their name, involved in wholesale criminal fraud that looks to be a textbook example of a Continuing Criminal Enterprise.

Saudi money picked up John Gray's book (and Gray himself) and ran with it; creating infomercials that drove sales of until they became a worldwide publishing phenomenon. Michael C. Ruppert and the phony 9/11 'Truth Movement' are defending taking money from owes his fame and success to Saudi money from Adnan Khashoggi, provided through a company incorporated by Barry Seal's attorney, the same man currently suing us for 'emotional distress.'  

No doubt this is just a freak coincidence.

Gray is even alleged to be involved, in papers filed in a major lawsuit in Federal Court in Minneapolis, in the recent $200 million looting the Genesis principals engaged in while on their way out of town. His trading account was used in the scheme, alleges the suit.

But apparently that doesn't make him a close associate of Adnan Khashoggi...not at least for purposes of taking money from him. Not in Michael Ruppert's book. But then proof is something the former detective appears to disdain, as witness his incessant pushing of 9.11 Red herrings from "Bush Knew" to "No Pilots" to "No Planes" to "Peak Oil," his latest "the end of the world as we know it" pulpit-pounder.  


"The boys" from Tampa & L.A.

From their base in Tampa Florida, Khashoggi and El Batrawi controlled a network of companies, all using the word  "Genesis" in their name. The number of Khashoggi-owned Genesis companies we've found keeps growing. There is, or was, Genesis Aviation, Inc., Genesis Aviation II, Genesis Diversified Investments, Genesis Studio and Production Corp., Genesis Media Group, Genesis Properties, Genesis Intermedia; GenesisIntermedia.com.; Genesis Delaware; Genesis Florida... The list, it do go on. And on.

Versions of the company have traded under a number of stock symbols: GNNX;  NTER; BMOO;  GMGI; and GENI... What's the purpose? Clearly this is a difficult company to keep track of...exactly the idea. One innocent businessman who had a website mistakenly associated with 'the boys' at "Saudi Genesis" posted this desperate explanation for why he had nothing at all to do with them:

"Over the last several weeks, I have put together these facts:

The Scammers might be related to Genesis Media Group, a subsidiary of GenesisIntermedia Inc. GenesisIntermedia is in financial trouble. See the section below about GenesisIntermedia.

The Scammers have a website of www.familyproductsllc.com which is only an email front, there is no "real" website there. You can email www.ab-energizer-exercise.com, www.ab-fitness-exercise.com, www.familyproductsllc.com. More information about the owners of these websites follows in this email (Including address and phone numbers).

The Scammers may use the following phone numbers: 1-800-457-0825, 1-800-801-6130, 1-888-602-7878, 1-818-902-4100 fax: 123 123 1234, 1-888-255-2525..."



"The proof is in the patterns! And so are the trading profits!"

The "Saudi Genesis" companies specialized in marketing to the masses, through infomercials and on the internet. Everything from Plastic Surgeons Crème to ab-energizers to fraudulent get rich quick schemes like "Trade Your Way to Riches,"  created after Ramy El-Batrawi of Genesis approached Jake Bernstein at a seminar in Burbank, California about the possibility of marketing Bernstein's futures trading products through the creation of an infomercial.

Jake Bernstein billed himself as the world's foremost authority on pattern recognition and cycles and author of over 25 trading books. (He must be pretty good at recognizing when its time to leave town, at least, cause he hasn't gone to prison recently.( Bernstein website )  "Jake found an easier way to get rich. Instead of trading futures he would trade on investor gullibility," wrote a whistleblower.

Bernstein starred in an infomercial that aired on 400 TV stations, hyping a video course called Trade Your Way to Riches. A farmer named Harold Henkel told viewers how well Bernstein's approach has worked for him.

Henkel later admitted he lost money trading using Bernstein's products. We hope his "endorsement fee" made up for it.

Critics were unkind to Jake. "There's one born every minute. Seasonal Suckers is the cold truth about Jake Bernstein's futures theories."

"Jake Bernstein has a lousy record trading futures but has made plenty trading on investor gullibility"

The boys at Genesis Intermedia made out like bandits.


The C'mon Back Scandal Revisited

And then there's the Genesis Communications Network. There's actually two of them, seemingly unrelated, but they're so extremely similar in the fraud department to each other and to "Saudi Genesis" that the relationship appears strongly familial. We're still uncertain as to how close they all are; kissing cousins, at the very least.

The first GCN is a so-called "patriot" network hosting Alex Jones and Dave Van Kliest, the, ah, the individual fronting for the latest See the Flash extravaganza, advertisements for which are spamming the Internet at a rate that must be causing concern among conservationists of our digital landscape of '1's and ' 0's.'

VanKliest is our pick for Disinfotainer of the Year... an especial honor, considering that there was some fierce competition. Of course, "See the Flash Dave" from the powerhour, like Alex Jones, is part of the GENESIS Communications Network. ( gcnlive.com )   ( genesis radio hosts )

He reminds us of Tattoo from Fantasy Island, pointing and shouting "De Plane! De Plane!"

When we fingered this checkered crew in last week's story for involvement in what we termed the "C'mon back scandal," we hadn't meant it literally... So we clearly underestimated them, because they're not above personally getting behind the wheel when the opportunity arises to "to back up a truck."

They're involved in an internecine scandal, documented on the web at some length by "Christians" for whom time must hang heavy during the long Montana winter... "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:15," their screed began.

"Christian Media has repeatedly sought to expose the treachery at the Genesis Communications Network...They stole their original equipment from another patriot network named Republic Radio. Fraudulently claiming they had purchased the network, the management of Genesis literally backed up a U-Haul, and loaded up the broadcasting equipment while the rightful owner was out of town!"

Lily Tomlin, Prophetess of Our Times, said, "No matter how cynical I get I just can't keep up."


Welcome Back to "Honk-if-You-Love-Jesus World."

GCN programming "broadly ranges from provocative politics to gardening, health and pop culture, and targets specific audiences with useful guidelines for surviving & prospering in an increasingly complex and challenging political and socio-economic environment."

The Exec VP at Genesis Communications Network in Minnesota is http://www.madcowprod.com/MC6812004.html

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

(Note I don't trust Seymour Hersh but he does provide info on Perle and Khashoggi before 9/11. I get the suspicion after more research that Khashoggi is a "Donmeh" Jew-Arab of some sort:

Khashoggi was born in Mecca, the son of Muhammad Khashoggi, a medical doctor of Spanish, Basque and Turkish ancestry[citation needed] who was King Abdel Aziz Al Saud's personal physician. The family name means spoonmaker (Kaşıkçı) in Turkish. The family moved from the Iberian Peninsula and settled in Saudi Arabia. Adnan Khashoggi's sister Samira Khashoggi Fayed was the mother of Dodi Fayed.

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Lunch With the Chairman
Why was Richard Perle meeting with Adnan Khashoggi?
by Seymour M. Hersh

Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2003/0 ... z0cttmdIC5


http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2003/0 ... 317fa_fact



Perle served as a foreign-policy adviser in George W. Bush's Presidential campaign—he had been an Assistant Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan—but he chose not to take a senior position in the Administration. In mid-2001, however, he accepted an offer from Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to chair the Defense Policy Board, a then obscure group that had been created by the Defense Department in 1985. Its members (there are around thirty of them) may be outside the government, but they have access to classified information and to senior policymakers, and give advice not only on strategic policy but also on such matters as weapons procurement. Most of the board's proceedings are confidential.

As chairman of the board, Perle is considered to be a special government employee and therefore subject to a federal Code of Conduct. Those rules bar a special employee from participating in an official capacity in any matter in which he has a financial interest. "One of the general rules is that you don't take advantage of your federal position to help yourself financially in any way," a former government attorney who helped formulate the Code of Conduct told me. The point, the attorney added, is to "protect government processes from actual or apparent conflicts."

Advisory groups like the Defense Policy Board enable knowledgeable people outside government to bring their skills and expertise to bear, in confidence, on key policy issues. Because such experts are often tied to the defense industry, however, there are inevitable conflicts. One board member told me that most members are active in finance and business, and on at least one occasion a member has left a meeting when a military or an intelligence product in which he has an active interest has come under discussion.

Four members of the Defense Policy Board told me that the board, which met most recently on February 27th and 28th, had not been informed of Perle's involvement in Trireme. One board member, upon being told of Trireme and Perle's meeting with Khashoggi, exclaimed, "Oh, get out of here. He's the chairman! If you had a story about me setting up a company for homeland security, and I've put people on the board with whom I'm doing that business, I'd be had"—a reference to Gerald Hillman, who had almost no senior policy or military experience in government before being offered a post on the policy board. "Seems to me this is at the edge of or off the ethical charts. I think it would stink to high heaven."

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Anybody got lowdown on GCN and WingTV?  Who owns them?

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Connecting the Dots
     

GCN an ABC Affiliate

by Victor Thorn & Lisa Guliani
   
     

Did you know that GCN – the network which carries Alex Jones and Jeff Rense – is an ABC affiliate? Yes, ABC - as in the Disney-owned American Broadcasting Corporation – the epitome of mainstream corporate media and home of propagandists such as Peter Jennings.


http://www.wingtv.net/gcnabc.html

[MikeWB]

And then there's the Genesis Communications Network. There's actually two of them, seemingly unrelated, but they're so extremely similar in the fraud department to each other and to "SaudiGenesis " that the relationship appears strongly familial. We're still uncertain as to how close they all are; kissing cousins, at the very least.

This whole Khashoggi connection to AJ and GCN (the Anderson's company) has been debunked long time ago. It's all a total nonsense with no proof whatsoever. The only piece of "evidence" that ties them is the word "Genesis". It's like saying that two people with the same last name are related.

http://investing.businessweek.com/resea ... pId=642905

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

This whole Khashoggi connection to AJ and GCN (the Anderson's company) has been debunked long time ago. It's all a total nonsense with no proof whatsoever. The only piece of "evidence" that ties them is the word "Genesis". It's like saying that two people with the same last name are related.

Thanks MikeWB,

The more I looked at the sources, the more it seemed fishy between Khashoggi and GCN. Thanks for debunking. Looks like the Hopsicker article is the only one really suggesting a connection.

  I do think Khashoggi  is an Israeli friendly operative and a definite link between US-Israel intelligence operations and the Muslim world though. He's a player with the NeoCons before and after 9/11. He's like the Bin Ladens -- Saudi Family friendly and Bush-Jew NeoCon friendly as well.

 Do you know if A.J. ever did an investigation into Khashoggi? He seems like one of the "Arabs control Hollywood" straw men A.J. is always ranting about.

[MikeWB]

No idea if Alex ever went into discussing him.

Noticed one point about ABC news on GCN... if my memory serves me correctly, GCN had to carry ABC news because they were leasing satellite time from them and that was one of the stipulations in the contract. That's a standard thing in radio business if you want to carry your programming to affiliates (radio stations across the country) cheaply.

As for who runs WingTV... well, it's a collaboration by Victor Thorn and Lisa Giuliani. Thorn's an excellent researcher and he's the co-author (with Mark Glenn) of the new book on USS Liberty: http://www.wingtv.net/shipwithoutacountry.html  Thorn & Giuliani got a lot of shit from "patriots" for exposing AJ long time ago (2005-6 timeframe). They also went into slinging mud at all other patriots (including DBS). I think they've changed their mind on few of these people but their research on AJ is solid.

If AJ has a handler, which we have no real evidence of really, I'd guess that it's someone a lot bigger than some shady saudi-turkish "businessman". I'd think it would be someone from the ADL/AIPAC... or someone from the MEGA. http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?t=231067  There are rumors that Bill Clinton was afraid of MEGA.

CSR, if you have time, research MEGA... it's the most powerful group of Jews in the US.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

BTW, I did a quick back of the envelope calc on the Jewish "teeth" to Nazi Gold during WWII.  The Khashoggi connection got me thinking about Nazi Gold and Jewish Teeth, the numbers just don't add up:


 32,000.0004    ounces in a ton of gold
 0.1058         3 grams of gold per crown in ounces
 302,394.9163    number of teeth per tonne of Gold
 100,798.3054    number of individual jews per tonne of Gold - 3 crowned teeth per Jew
 201,596.61    2 tons of Nazi Gold at Rothschild-Warburg-Schiff Jew NY Fed in terms of individual European Jewish teeth
15,119,745.82     individual Jews using only half of the 300 tons of Nazi Gold for tooth calculations from the supposedly stored gold in Portugal-Switzerland from Jewish Teeth (1941-45)

   That's way over 6 million Jews  and being generous...

What kind of money might be involved?

To give you an idea about the value of scrap dental restorations, let's take the case of a dental crown. An average full "gold" crown might weigh on the order of two to three grams. This is on the short side of about one-tenth of an ounce. In recent history the price of gold topped out at over $1000 per ounce. So let's do some calculations based on these figures.

[scorpio]

Khashoggi secretly contributed to Richard Nixon's 1968 presidential campaign. He attended Nixon's funeral in 1994. (wasn't Nixon a member of Bohemian Grove? There is an Alex Jones connection to Bohemian Grove through the GCN owner)

Yes, Nixon was a Bohemian Grove member for many years. Khashoggi is not a member.
I don't quite see the connection to alex jones with this.
Can you elaborate?

I have always wondered how Jones got into the Grove. He did not sneak in, IMO.
Someone let him in.

[MikeWB]

I have always wondered how Jones got into the Grove. He did not sneak in, IMO.
Someone let him in.

Jon Ronson arranged it. He says in his book that he "got a lead" on how to get in and shared it with AJ who then decided to try to sneak in and Ronson recorded it. Ronson also admitted that he too sneaked in later on.

Who Ronson got the tip from... well.. that's the key to the whole mystery. And were the guards told to let them in? I don't think we'll ever know. But what we do know is that this stunt gave AJ a lot of reputation which he then used to overtake the patriot movement.

[scorpio]

Jon Ronson arranged it. He says in his book that he "got a lead" on how to get in and shared it with AJ who then decided to try to sneak in and Ronson recorded it. Ronson also admitted that he too sneaked in later on.

Who Ronson got the tip from... well.. that's the key to the whole mystery. And were the guards told to let them in? I don't think we'll ever know. But what we do know is that this stunt gave AJ a lot of reputation which he then used to overtake the patriot movement.

There is only one guard at the outside gate during the summer encampment....usually an off duty deputy sheriff.
Once inside, there is a second checkpoint, at which time you have to show your Bohemian Grove Card.
I know the layout of the grove, and there is no way that AJ waltzed in by climbing over the fence.

If anyone has a lead on friends that Ronson may have known, I can check it against the membership list I have.

I personally think that AJ or his dad knew someone in the grove. There are many members at the grove who are
from Texas....oil business,ect.

If we can connect any person who is a Grove member with Ronson, or AJ, then we may have our answer.
The Grove Video is what propelled AJ to where he is now.

[MikeWB]

Good points scorpio! I'll just add this piece to think about... maybe they upped the security after AJ got famous by crashing the party. Maybe it was a lot easier to get in before.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

CSR, at least two different Mossad people have publically stated that Kashoggi was at least a Mossad asset, at most an "Arabist." An Arabist is a Mossad field agent who poses as a Muslim. A Jew who can speak Arabic like a native speaker.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

CSR, if you have time, research MEGA... it's the most powerful group of Jews in the US.

Hi Mike,

I always thought "Mega" was actually Rahm Emanuel? The Chief of Staff is a Dual-Loyalist Israeli in the Obama administration. Par for the course as far as I can tell. I guess Rahm is first on the list. There could be other candidates.
Apparently, the Israelis had broken the early encryption on the White House messages during the Clinton Administration. (Like they broke the Blackberry Encryption--probably using the RSA patent that is from Zionist Jews).  Clinton the sexual reprobate as always mentioned that he was being eavesdropped upon. I guess after Clinton, it was just tap the "Jew Puppet in the WhiteHouse" as usual... of course it could be a group of  "Samson Option"  Jews with their finger on the trigger in the US military as well.


I do believe from all the research that I've seen that Khasshogi is an Asset. Why be a broker with murderous, Zio-Jews on the other end of the deal? Like "why?"

[MikeWB]

CSR, if you have time, research MEGA... it's the most powerful group of Jews in the US.

Hi Mike,

I always thought "Mega" was actually Rahm Emanuel? The Chief of Staff is a Dual-Loyalist Israeli in the Obama administration. Par for the course as far as I can tell. I guess Rahm is first on the list. There could be other candidates.
Apparently, the Israelis had broken the early encryption on the White House messages during the Clinton Administration. (Like they broke the Blackberry Encryption--probably using the RSA patent that is from Zionist Jews).  Clinton the sexual reprobate as always mentioned that he was being eavesdropped upon. I guess after Clinton, it was just tap the "Jew Puppet in the WhiteHouse" as usual... of course it could be a group of  "Samson Option"  Jews with their finger on the trigger in the US military as well.


I do believe from all the research that I've seen that Khasshogi is an Asset. Why be a broker with murderous, Zio-Jews on the other end of the deal? Like "why?"

That's what I thought as well but people are now saying that MEGA was a group of people who are still very much active. Rahm was most definitely a member but little else is known about others. Big question is where all the money that MEGA used for bribes came from. Some are suggesting that MEGA's financiers were Jewish billionaires but no one is saying the names.

I'm wondering what MEGA is going to do to Obama if he doesn't take the hard stance on Hamas/Hesbullah in the coming months as Israel starts another conflict there. They will need to silence Obama and Adm. Mullen because they're not proactively bashing those groups on TV like Dubya did.

[scorpio]

The Jewish ponzi scheme-casino crime network in action

[Mystic_Man]

No idea if Alex ever went into discussing him.

Noticed one point about ABC news on GCN... if my memory serves me correctly, GCN had to carry ABC news because they were leasing satellite time from them and that was one of the stipulations in the contract. That's a standard thing in radio business if you want to carry your programming to affiliates (radio stations across the country) cheaply.

As for who runs WingTV... well, it's a collaboration by Victor Thorn and Lisa Giuliani. Thorn's an excellent researcher and he's the co-author (with Mark Glenn) of the new book on USS Liberty: http://www.wingtv.net/shipwithoutacountry.html  Thorn & Giuliani got a lot of shit from "patriots" for exposing AJ long time ago (2005-6 timeframe). They also went into slinging mud at all other patriots (including DBS). I think they've changed their mind on few of these people but their research on AJ is solid.

If AJ has a handler, which we have no real evidence of really, I'd guess that it's someone a lot bigger than some shady saudi-turkish "businessman". I'd think it would be someone from the ADL/AIPAC... or someone from the MEGA. http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?t=231067  There are rumors that Bill Clinton was afraid of MEGA.

CSR, if you have time, research MEGA... it's the most powerful group of Jews in the US.

I think Jones most likely just has friends in buisness and sponsors who are Jewish and his wife is part Jewish, and that's where his bias most likely comes from. Plus I heard him once say that he was raised a Christian Zionist taught to 'basically worship Israel' even though he claims not to be one now. I personally doubt that he has Mossad handlers or anything as he does expose some of their crimes. I mean Alex may not be honest about the Zionist Jewry issue but he is more honest by a lot than the mainstream media people and there are way more of them than him. So I think it's a waste of time to focus in on him as much as there's much bigger fish to fry, and he does bring some good info to the table even though that may be a taboo thing to say around here. But when he does spout off blatantly deceptive things like 'Arabs own the media' I think it's right to point it out and riticize him but I don't think it's a productive thing to get overly hung up on. He even uses it to his advantage and says things like 'see, the 'Jew haters' are cointelpro cause they obsess over me'.

[Rockclimber]

No idea if Alex ever went into discussing him.

Noticed one point about ABC news on GCN... if my memory serves me correctly, GCN had to carry ABC news because they were leasing satellite time from them and that was one of the stipulations in the contract. That's a standard thing in radio business if you want to carry your programming to affiliates (radio stations across the country) cheaply.

As for who runs WingTV... well, it's a collaboration by Victor Thorn and Lisa Giuliani. Thorn's an excellent researcher and he's the co-author (with Mark Glenn) of the new book on USS Liberty: http://www.wingtv.net/shipwithoutacountry.html  Thorn & Giuliani got a lot of shit from "patriots" for exposing AJ long time ago (2005-6 timeframe). They also went into slinging mud at all other patriots (including DBS). I think they've changed their mind on few of these people but their research on AJ is solid.

If AJ has a handler, which we have no real evidence of really, I'd guess that it's someone a lot bigger than some shady saudi-turkish "businessman". I'd think it would be someone from the ADL/AIPAC... or someone from the MEGA. http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?t=231067  There are rumors that Bill Clinton was afraid of MEGA.

CSR, if you have time, research MEGA... it's the most powerful group of Jews in the US.

I think Jones most likely just has friends in buisness and sponsors who are Jewish and his wife is part Jewish, and that's where his bias most likely comes from. Plus I heard him once say that he was raised a Christian Zionist taught to 'basically worship Israel' even though he claims not to be one now. I personally doubt that he has Mossad handlers or anything as he does expose some of their crimes. I mean Alex may not be honest about the Zionist Jewry issue but he is more honest by a lot than the mainstream media people and there are way more of them than him. So I think it's a waste of time to focus in on him as much as there's much bigger fish to fry, and he does bring some good info to the table even though that may be a taboo thing to say around here. But when he does spout off blatantly deceptive things like 'Arabs own the media' I think it's right to point it out and riticize him but I don't think it's a productive thing to get overly hung up on. He even uses it to his advantage and says things like 'see, the 'Jew haters' are cointelpro cause they obsess over me'.

Jones surrounds himself with Zionists as evidenced by his advertizers, many of his guests and his connections with Hollywood.

The reason people are irritated with Jones is because he is the biggest name out there and he claims to be a truth seeker/telller with pure motives and intentions yet he pushes his audience away from zionism by trying to suggest that most of 'us' are a bunch of 'jew-haters' and 'cointel pro'. These are cheap shots that many of his lemmings have echoed but as of late it's hurting him because many of his lemmings have finally opened their eyes and are finally starting to relate to what the anti-Z camp is saying.

So to say that people shouldn't get hung on him would be fair if Jones wasn't working against us. My personal vision of the alternative radio is to be able to talk about all groups (races, color's, creeds) without having to preface the criticism with a defense as to why your not an 'anti-semite'. If a person or group deserves to be exposed for their crimes, than so be it. Jones is still in fear of this group--that much should be evident, that is if you don't consider him to be a shill. Jones still deploys pre-programmed labels, so he is not 'awake' . It is either that, or he is a shill.

(this was my 1000th post...kewl )

[LordLindsey]

JanesWeeklyStein has proven himself a liar, obfuscator, and intentional mis-director time-and-time-and-time-again.  "Mystic" is trying to do what is known as "spin" on what we all know at this point to be the truth about this piece of shit, and I will be God damned if I am going to just accept this without retorting as strongly as I can.

Fellow, for you to even ATTEMPT to defend this guy after everything that you have seen here at TIU PROVING THAT ISRAEL AND ITS TALMUDIC-WORSHIPPING MINIONS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PLANETARY MISERY shows me that you are either actively here to try to do spin-control or you are lying to yourself and pretty-much nothing is going to get you to see the light if you haven't seen it by now.  After the Topic regarding "Greg from Houston" and the video where Alexewitz says that it's the Zionists but it doesn't do any good to talk about them, if you can't see the truth as it is then maybe you need to examine your premise and decide what it is that you REALLY BELIEVE about the world and people around you because you really do need to honestly do some introspection.

LINDSEY

NB:  I have read in one of your posts where you call his show a "shit show" so which is it?  I think that in-light of you down-playing the things that are pretty obvious about this guy you need to clarify just what it is that you really do believe Jowns' motives for mis-directing are because you can't have it both ways.  I don't give a damned if this guy is giving-out 90% good information if at the end of it all he is going to tell you that "Folks, I've done the research...Israel could not have carried-out 911!!!"  In fact...do YOU agree with this statement, Mystic?

[Wimpy]

JanesWeeklyStein has proven himself a liar, obfuscator, and intentional mis-director time-and-time-and-time-again.  "Mystic" is trying to do what is known as "spin" on what we all know at this point to be the truth about this piece of shit, and I will be God damned if I am going to just accept this without retorting as strongly as I can.

Fellow, for you to even ATTEMPT to defend this guy after everything that you have seen here at TIU PROVING THAT ISRAEL AND ITS TALMUDIC-WORSHIPPING MINIONS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PLANETARY MISERY shows me that you are either actively here to try to do spin-control or you are lying to yourself and pretty-much nothing is going to get you to see the light if you haven't seen it by now.  After the Topic regarding "Greg from Houston" and the video where Alexewitz says that it's the Zionists but it doesn't do any good to talk about them, if you can't see the truth as it is then maybe you need to examine your premise and decide what it is that you REALLY BELIEVE about the world and people around you because you really do need to honestly do some introspection.

LINDSEY

NB:  I have read in one of your posts where you call his show a "shit show" so which is it?  I think that in-light of you down-playing the things that are pretty obvious about this guy you need to clarify just what it is that you really do believe Jowns' motives for mis-directing are because you can't have it both ways.  I don't give a damned if this guy is giving-out 90% good information if at the end of it all he is going to tell you that "Folks, I've done the research...Israel could not have carried-out 911!!!"  In fact...do YOU agree with this statement, Mystic?

Agreed.  It's called "Pure Play", Mystic_Man, not "Partial Play".

[jai_mann]

JanesWeeklyStein has proven himself a liar, obfuscator, and intentional mis-director time-and-time-and-time-again.  "Mystic" is trying to do what is known as "spin" on what we all know at this point to be the truth about this piece of shit, and I will be God damned if I am going to just accept this without retorting as strongly as I can.

Fellow, for you to even ATTEMPT to defend this guy after everything that you have seen here at TIU PROVING THAT ISRAEL AND ITS TALMUDIC-WORSHIPPING MINIONS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PLANETARY MISERY shows me that you are either actively here to try to do spin-control or you are lying to yourself and pretty-much nothing is going to get you to see the light if you haven't seen it by now.  After the Topic regarding "Greg from Houston" and the video where Alexewitz says that it's the Zionists but it doesn't do any good to talk about them, if you can't see the truth as it is then maybe you need to examine your premise and decide what it is that you REALLY BELIEVE about the world and people around you because you really do need to honestly do some introspection.

LINDSEY

NB:  I have read in one of your posts where you call his show a "shit show" so which is it?  I think that in-light of you down-playing the things that are pretty obvious about this guy you need to clarify just what it is that you really do believe Jowns' motives for mis-directing are because you can't have it both ways.  I don't give a damned if this guy is giving-out 90% good information if at the end of it all he is going to tell you that "Folks, I've done the research...Israel could not have carried-out 911!!!"  In fact...do YOU agree with this statement, Mystic?

Lindsey I've seen a change in your approach at least over the last 2 months or so. I've been meaning to say that I'm happy with this and that from my own perspective I think we have more in common in how we view these issues now. This relates to the issues of talmudism as a core problem rather than just zionism (especially these issues!) and also in the zero tolerance attitude for these scumbags like Jones who are helping to wage psychological war on the general populace. I'm not an ass kisser and never have been but I wanted to give you positive feedback and encouragement as I approve of your approach and messages more and more. And given that this is stressful business and no one is going to be handing out rewards for diligent work, I think that it's important to give each other positive reinforcement from time to time which helps keep our moral up.

Thumbs up!

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Yeah, as for me I kind of see Jonestein as "Candy Cigarettes" for truth movement.  He's a "sugar high"  but if you need the real thing, you move to the Adults' section and then buy a pack and light up.  Shocking stickers and wrappers are for Jonestein's cult children.

[Mystic_Man]

JanesWeeklyStein has proven himself a liar, obfuscator, and intentional mis-director time-and-time-and-time-again.  "Mystic" is trying to do what is known as "spin" on what we all know at this point to be the truth about this piece of shit, and I will be God damned if I am going to just accept this without retorting as strongly as I can.

Fellow, for you to even ATTEMPT to defend this guy after everything that you have seen here at TIU PROVING THAT ISRAEL AND ITS TALMUDIC-WORSHIPPING MINIONS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PLANETARY MISERY shows me that you are either actively here to try to do spin-control or you are lying to yourself and pretty-much nothing is going to get you to see the light if you haven't seen it by now.  After the Topic regarding "Greg from Houston" and the video where Alexewitz says that it's the Zionists but it doesn't do any good to talk about them, if you can't see the truth as it is then maybe you need to examine your premise and decide what it is that you REALLY BELIEVE about the world and people around you because you really do need to honestly do some introspection.

LINDSEY

NB:  I have read in one of your posts where you call his show a "shit show" so which is it?  I think that in-light of you down-playing the things that are pretty obvious about this guy you need to clarify just what it is that you really do believe Jowns' motives for mis-directing are because you can't have it both ways.  I don't give a damned if this guy is giving-out 90% good information if at the end of it all he is going to tell you that "Folks, I've done the research...Israel could not have carried-out 911!!!"  In fact...do YOU agree with this statement, Mystic?

Did you even read the comment I wrote that you're referring to? My points were 1. It's a waste of time focusing on Jones b/c he's a small fry compared to the actual mainstream media which is much larger and is 100% openly Zionist controlled and pro-Israel unlike Jones who's soft and deceptive about the issue but not even fully pro-Zionist and 2. Constantly attacking Jones actually helps him because it draws attention to him and gives him more publicity. Nowhere did I say I agree w/him on anything to do w/Zionism or Jews. What I'm saying is Jones' numbers are way higher than DBS's, and DBS talks about him all the time. Whereas Jones never mentions DBS by name or any other radio show hosts and he gets much more listeners. What does that tell you? The average person still doesn't even know who Alex Jones is and those are the people we need to reach if we want the truth to come out fully and become bigger than Jones' watered down version that protects criminal Jewry. If I'm not lets see DBS's numbers get bigger than Jones' continuing the same thing of attacking him and giving him publicity. Instead I say give him no attention & continue to put the facts out acting like the guy doesn't exist the way he does DBS and all of us.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Many seem to be quick to dismiss Adnan's ties to Alex Jones yet 911 Truth "pioneer" John Gray has very public connections to Khashoggi. Why we we assume that the self appointed leader of 911 Truth, Alex Jew-Poodle Jones, wouldn't also be connected?

Obviously, it's much more than just the GCN thing that connects confirmed Mossad agent Khashoggi.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Hey Tim,

I think you have an excellent point here about John Gray and Adnan:

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Iran-Contra's Adnan Khasshogi Linked to Osama Bin Laden S. Utah company may have indirect ties to terrorists
09/28/2001

The Spectrum Investigation links primary stockholder in parent company to bin Laden;
 Nasdaq halts trading for GenesisIntermedia.com
By PATRICE ST. GERMAIN ST. GEORGE ­
 A St. George business¹s parent company has had its stock sales halted by NASDAQ, but company officials say they have no comment on how or if the halted trading will affect the local company that employs 180 people. The company, GenesisIntermedia.com Inc., as it is licensed through state and local business licenses, is listed as Genesis Media Group in the telephone book. The parent company, GenesisIntermedia, based in Van Nuys Calif., has two primary stockholders ­ Ramy El-Batrawi and Saudi financier Adnan Khashoggi, a financial middleman in the Iran-Contra scandal of the 1980s. Not only was Khashoggi connected with the Iran-Contra scandal, he forfeited almost $7 million in insider-trading profits to GenesisIntermedia at the beginning of September and more recently has been linked to known terrorist Osama bin Laden by InsideTruth.com, a company wholly owned by Pacific Equity Investigations, an equity valuation research center. Anthony Elgindy, investigative director of research at Pacific Equity and editor in chief for Insidetruth.com, said many ties between Khashoggi and bin Laden have been pinpointed but said details were disclosed only to the FBI and the Federal Communications Commission to protect the integrity of any investigations. "We are 1,000 percent sure we can directly or indirectly connect Khashoggi to bin Laden or the Taliban," Elgindy said. "We think we can prove that." A trading halt was placed on GenesisIntermedia Inc. on Tuesday at 4:55 p.m. EST. On the NASDAQ Web site, two reasons were next to the GENI stock as to why trading was halted. One is the pending release of material news and the other is the pending receipt of additional information requested by NASDAQ. Although the St. George company is directly linked to the Van Nuys company, human resource director Shirise Falco said the company had no comment regarding the company. Repeated calls to the Van Nuys company were not returned. With 180 employees, Genesis Intermedia.com Inc., or Genesis Media Group, is one of the larger employers in the St. George area. Recently, the company joined the St. George Chamber of Commerce. ... Under the listing of additional trade names by both companies is Trade Your Way to Riches. The two companies also share a common telephone number There are several companies tied to Genesesintermedia.com, Inc. including the Mentoring Institute, Inc. Additional ties to GenesisIntermeida, Inc., include financier Carl Icahn, a major shareholder for the Stratosphere Casino in Las Vegas.

-------------------- http://911skeptics.blogspot.com/2004_08 ... chive.html 9/11
Truth.org
 Though several times demanded, to release a proper explanation on the involvement and sponsorship of John Gray into PHASE II and 911truth.org, their speakers denied any clear statements. Instead, a huge scandal over the cover-up of the John Gray-Adnan Kashoggi ties (by accident or active, isn't of relevance), diverted, discouraged or confused many supporters of the 9/11 truth movement. Until now, there is still no CLEAR public statement of either the responsible persons of PHASE II, 911truth.org or even John Gray himself, on that matter. Requests on that got ignored as "disruptions". Many argued then, that some members of 911truth.org should resign over this cover-up scandal. Among the names, who got dropped: Nic Levis (9/11 truth, east coast) and also, in case if involved, Norman Thackeray (treasurer). Currently, 911truth did not disclose the names of other members of their board. The few 9/11 truthseekers, who spoke out first about the Gray-Kashoggi ties, got attacked, for just asking for an explanation. Among them: Matthias Broeckers, Michel Chussodoswki, myself and less patient, but conclusive: Daniel Hopsicker....

 ------------- http://www.bookbrowse.com/index.cfm?pag ... thorID=110
John Gray Ph.D - Biography
John Gray, Ph.D., is the author of Mars and Venus on a Date, a follow-up to his phenomenal bestselling book Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus, which has sold more than 6 million copies in the United States and millions more in 40 languages around the world....  Gray is happily married to Bonnie Gray and has three daughters -- Laren, Julie and Shannon. He not only understands first-hand the principles of successful marriage, he's also experienced the serious problems that can trouble any union, having previously married and divorced. Gray lived as a monk for nine years, which helped him to learn about solitude and serenity. He studied for many years with the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and received both his B.A. and his M.A. in Creative Intelligence from Maharishi European Research University. In 1982 received his doctorate in psychology and human sexuality from Columbia Pacific University.

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listse ... 15450.html


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A John Gray Dossier

by Brian Salter
questionsquestions.net, 9 September 2004

Update, 29 September 2004:

More information continues to circulate among 9/11 researchers who have been following the John Gray - Ramy el Batrawi - Adnan Khashoggi connection. The following two articles are examples of more direct proof from mainstream media sources of the el Batrawi - Khashoggi partnership extending back years before the Genesis Intermedia affair. Even more alarmingly, the events in question involve a company funded by el Batrawi and Khashoggi which was caught engaging in illegal arms shipments to Iran. (note that the first article uses an alternate spelling, Ramy El Batrawi = Remy Al Batswani).


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Copyright 1992 UMI Inc.;
Copyright South Florida Business Journal, Inc. 1992;
Business Dateline;
South Florida Business Journal

May 4, 1992

Int'l Airline Support Sued Over Jetborne Deal

Melinda Zisser

Miami; FL; US

BODY: MIAMI--Garrick Overseas International, a company once owned by international arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, claims Miami's International Airline Support Group failed to live up to a contract giving Garrick 70,000 shares of its stock.

Garrick also invested in Jetborne International, which was indicted for illegally shipping arms to Iran last year. Garrick claimed it met its part of the deal --to deliver Jetborne's London business in exchange for stock in International Airline Support Group.

But in a suit filed in U.S. District Court in Miami last month, Garrick claims Airline Support Group Acquisition Corp. failed to issue the stock.

"Whatever it takes, we're not going to let them cheat us a second time," said Garrick President Remy Al-Batswani.

Attorney Myles Tralins, representing International Airline Support Group, has a different story: "It's our position that the case has no merit and we expect the claims to be dismissed.

"We're surprised a frivolous lawsuit has been brought when there was a lack in performance on Garrick's part," Tralins said.

Miami attorney Thomas Farrar with Holland & Knight is representing Garrick. He expects attorneys for International Airline Support to respond to the suit in the next two weeks.

"They've refused to issue the stock and they believe Garrick hasn't lived up to its end of the bargain," Farrar said.

International Airline Support was supposed to issue Garrick 70,000 shares in exchange for Jetborne's U.K. operations, according to a deal signed last year. At the time, the shares were trading for $ 5.50 a share.

The stock, which is traded over the counter under the symbol IASG, closed at $ 4.88 a share April 28 after trading in a 52-week range of $ 8.63 to $ 2.75 a share.

Early in 1991, Khashoggi paid $ 100,000 for a 2 percent stake in Jetborne International, a Miami company that sold aircraft parts. He also received warrants to buy 1 million more Jetborne shares between $ 3 and $ 3.30 a share that would have given him a 16 percent stake in the company.

According to the suit, Garrick began arbitration proceedings in Paris last August against Jetborne, relating to a shareholders agreement between Garrick and Jetborne. At the time, Garrick owned an option to buy Jetborne U.K., a Jetborne subsidiary.

Later that month, Garrick entered into an agreement that gave International Airline Support the right to buy Jetborne U.K. shares at the option price.

International Airline Support then agreed to register its stock to Garrick, the suit said. The agreement called for 42,000 shares of International Airline Support to be assigned to Garrick either when Garrick won its Paris arbitration, or when Jetborne recognized Garrick's option and consent to sell Jetborne UK shares.

The balance, 28,000 shares of International Airline Support, was to be transferred when the company completed its acquisition of Jetborne U.K. shares.

In connection with the agreement, Garrick said in the suit that it transferred 111,111 shares of Jetborne stock to International Airline Support. Those shares were to be held in a trust account for Garrick until the Paris arbitration was completed. If International Airline Support acquired Jetborne, the shares would be returned to Garrick.

In December, Garrick secured Jetborne U.K., but International Airline Support believed it had too much liability: about $ 2 million worth, the suit claimed.

The deal also called for Garrick to retain Iain Sturrock, a key Jetborne U.K. employee. Garrick retained Sturrock, the suit said, but the International Airline Support stock never materialized.

What's more, Sturrock also delivered orders for aircraft parts to International Airline Support, orders that went unfilled, according to Garrick official Al-Batswani.

Khashoggi is no longer formally involved with Garrick.

When Jetborne was charged with illegally shipping arms to Iran and forced into involuntary bankruptcy, Khashoggi lost his investment.


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Copyright 1991 Forbes, Inc.

Forbes

February 18, 1991

Adnan is back (did he ever go away)

EDITED BY JASON ZWEIG

BODY: WITH BOMBS RAINING down on the Middle East, it's no surprise that arms merchant Adnan Khashoggi has popped up again, this time with an investment in a tiny aircraft parts company. Khashoggi, a Saudi national who was acquitted last summer of charges that he had helped Imelda Marcos hide her wealth, recently paid $ 100,000 for a 2% stake in Jetborne International, a Miami-based firm that refurbishes and sells aircraft parts. Khashoggi also got warrants to buy 1 million more Jetborne shares at a price between $ 3 and $ 3.30; if exercised, the warrants would give him 16% of the company.

Jetborne trades, thinly, over-the-counter (recent price: 1/2) and has 5 millions shares outstanding. Sales were $ 23 million in fiscal 19990 ending in April, up nearly 40% from 1989. But without the capital from Khashoggi's Panama-based Garrick Overseas International, Jetborne might have crashed. The firm lost over $ 500,000 in fiscal 1990, pinched by increased competition and sluggish business. In April Jetborne parted ways with Peat Marwick Main, after the auditors threatened to question Jetborne's future as a going concern (the new accountant is Norman Eliot & Co.). When Jetborne pondered spinning off one of its subsidiaries, one of the few investment banks reportedly interested in the underwriting was the malodorous penny-stock promoter Stuart-James.

With the cash from Khashoggi, Jetborne has the money to expand its office in Hamburg and to finance a joint venture with the well-connected Khashoggi that will broker aircraft parts to customers around the world. All in all, this deal looks timely for both parties.

UMI-ACC-NO: 9239516
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Another Khashoggi — 9/11 connection:

KHASHOGGI'S ATTY. MENTORED GIULIANI
Robert G. Morvillo
http://www.crimlaw.org/defbrief281.html
He is the name partner of Morvillo, Abramowitz, Grand, Iason & Silberberg, a
40-lawyer firm he established in 1973. Among his other well-known clients
was Rep. Robert Garcia, convicted of extortion in the 1989 Wedtech scandal.
In another bribery case, he won acquittal in 1987 for John Zaccaro, husband
of former Democratic vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro. He also
represented the Saudi financier Adnan Khashoggi, alleged to have siphoned
money from the Philippines for Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos but acquitted
with them in a federal case. Two years ago he represented Robert Iler, who
played the son of Tony Soprano of the HBO series "The Sopranos," on a
robbery charge (he got probation).
 
In the 1960s and 1970s, Morvillo served in the U.S. attorney's office for
the Southern District of New York. He was a chief trial assistant in the
fraud unit there, and then chief of the criminal division, where he mentored
a young assistant U.S. attorney named Rudolph Giuliani.
 
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A partial list of El-Batrawi business fronts registered in Florida:

Mars & Venus Counseling Centers [!!]
Genesis Media Group
Genesis Aviation
Genesis Aviation II
Genesis Studio & Production Corp.
Genesis Diversified Instruments, Inc.
Genesis Properties

The records of the following two businesses established by Adnan Khashoggi's daughter Nabila show the same address used by El Batrawi:

In Motion Pictures, Inc.
Plum Picture, Inc.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Might be of interest on Wally Hilliard:

http://www.slideshare.net/Mormons4justi ... y-hilliard

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Hopsicker ties Goss, Adnan Khashoggi, Sibel Edmonds with Atta....  :?:

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Friday, May 26, 2006
Did Porter Goss resign over Skyway?
Daniel Hopsicker finally has a piece up about his more recent findings in the Skyway "junk jet" scandal. The headline startled even me:

PORTER GOSS RESIGNATION SOLVED: DC9 WITH 5.5 TONS OF COCAINE WAS CIA PLANE

This headline presents us with a couple of problems.

First, an arch-skeptic might say that Hopsicker has not proven that the airplane was CIA. He has, however, traced the registry of a "sister" aircraft to various known front groups used by spooks. A fair-minded person reading his work would have to confess that the argument is very strong that the drug-laden craft confiscated on that Mexican runway did, in fact, belong to the Agency, or (perhaps) to some other faction of the clandestine community.

And that's big news. It means we are dealing with something larger than the tale of a stock-scammer-turned-drug-importer.

The more troubling aspect of this headline concerns Porter Goss. Did the Skyway bust lead to his resignation, as Hopsicker states? The timing is certainly suggestive. But Hopsicker's story makes clear that this conclusion is the author's surmise, not an established fact. Personally, I prefer to keep my "maybes" and my "probablys" separate from my "definitelys."

That said, we must ask: Could this conjecture be on the money?

One aspect of the Skyway scandal that has always troubled me concerns the circumstances of the plane's capture. The Mexican authorities -- which have a history of looking the other way when paid to do so -- were apparently alerted to the drug run. More than that: The pilot got away. Only a child would believe that such things happen by accident. Someone arranged for his escape. Who might that "someone" be, and what were his motives?

Here's one possible scenario:

(To read the rest, click "Permalink" below)

Perhaps Porter Goss achieved his high position (and thus considered himself untouchable) because he had acquired dope on Administration officials via the Hookergate operation. (Could he have "gotten something" on Bush himself?) The only way to undo a blackmailer is to get something on him. If Goss can, in fact, be linked to Skyway, then anyone who wanted rid of him would have found a way to achieve a "balance of terror."

Plenty of other scenarios suggest themselves, of course. I offer the above speculation simply to invite others to ponder these mysteries. As you try to conjure up your own possible version of events, mull over this fascinating chunk of Hopsicker's tale:

    But SkyWay, which only lost $40 million of investors money, is an absolute paragon of excellence, corporate governance-wise, when compared to the DC9's previous owner...

    Genesis Aviation is one of several dozen company fronts, all of which contain the name "Genesis" in the title, controlled by one of the key figures in the Iran Contra scandal, Saudi billionaire and long-time CIA asset Adnan Khashoggi.

    Last month the Securities and Exchange Commission charged Khashoggi and Ramy Al Batrawi, his lieutenant for the past 20 years, with stock fraud in U.S. District Court for Central California. The men are accused of orchestrating a $130 million fraud involving the stock price of GenesisIntermedia.

    When the helpful Khashoggi worked with Oliver North to sell arms to Iran, Ramy El-Batrawi was there, as president of a Khashoggi company, Jetborne International, indicted for illegally ferrying TOW missiles to Iran, an "enterprise" which netted someone—though not the U.S. Government or the Contras it was supposedly funding—a tidy bit of change.

    Apparently neither man learned that crime doesn't pay, because Adnan and Ramy's recent pilferage make the Kovars look like kids stealing a candy bar from a 7-11 after school.

    "Just three months after the company's Initial Public Offering (IPO), the nearly $17 million raised in the offering was gone," read one wire service story.

    "The creative dealings of defendant El-Batrawi partly explains how this money disappeared so quickly," reported the AP.

To which I must add this comment offered by an anonymous reader in reaction to a previous post on this scandal:

    I did some more research. Two parties who are suspected of having foreknowledge of the 9-11 attacks: Anthony Elgindy and Adnan Khashoggi link to each other through Costa Rican Red Sea Management. Khashoggi associate Pakistani Rafi Khan did business with Canadian Stephen Taub. Stephen Taub referred Rakesh Saxena, the man who embezzled $88M from an Thai bank, to Red Sea Management.

    Red Sea Management was involved in Sky Way's mysterious 'DuPont' investment fund, which injected $7M including a DC-9 into Sky Way in 2004. Through a shareholder in Sky Way related Royal Sons, also last owner of the captured plane had activities in a hangar of Huffman aviation at the same time the hijackers were trained there. Atta and Al-Shehhi are believed to have practiced landings and take-offs after closing hours on the Clearwater airport where Royal Sons has it's HQ.

    All coincidences? I don't think so. It might connect many pieces of the 9-11 jigsaw puzzle, including Sibel Edmonds hints, The Israeli Art Students DEA groups and more.

posted: 4:35 AM

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/05/ ... kyway.html

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

So Khashoggi tips off Violet Nichols who then informs Alex Jones of the Mossad 9/11 plot. Jones takes the info, knowing that in the future it will confirm him as an intuitive "patriot," goes on air July 25, 2001, and says there is an impending attack on lower Manhattan that is to be blamed on Bin Laden.

Bravo!

Jones claimed on air once that he had no idea who Khashoggi was. How can Jones know about an impending attack on 9/11, know about all these NWO people, but not know who Khashoggi is?

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Hopsicker ties Goss, Adnan Khashoggi, Sibel Edmonds with Atta....  :?:

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Friday, May 26, 2006
Did Porter Goss resign over Skyway?
Daniel Hopsicker finally has a piece up about his more recent findings in the Skyway "junk jet" scandal. The headline startled even me:

PORTER GOSS RESIGNATION SOLVED: DC9 WITH 5.5 TONS OF COCAINE WAS CIA PLANE

This headline presents us with a couple of problems.

First, an arch-skeptic might say that Hopsicker has not proven that the airplane was CIA. He has, however, traced the registry of a "sister" aircraft to various known front groups used by spooks. A fair-minded person reading his work would have to confess that the argument is very strong that the drug-laden craft confiscated on that Mexican runway did, in fact, belong to the Agency, or (perhaps) to some other faction of the clandestine community.

And that's big news. It means we are dealing with something larger than the tale of a stock-scammer-turned-drug-importer.

The more troubling aspect of this headline concerns Porter Goss. Did the Skyway bust lead to his resignation, as Hopsicker states? The timing is certainly suggestive. But Hopsicker's story makes clear that this conclusion is the author's surmise, not an established fact. Personally, I prefer to keep my "maybes" and my "probablys" separate from my "definitelys."

That said, we must ask: Could this conjecture be on the money?

One aspect of the Skyway scandal that has always troubled me concerns the circumstances of the plane's capture. The Mexican authorities -- which have a history of looking the other way when paid to do so -- were apparently alerted to the drug run. More than that: The pilot got away. Only a child would believe that such things happen by accident. Someone arranged for his escape. Who might that "someone" be, and what were his motives?

Here's one possible scenario:

(To read the rest, click "Permalink" below)

Perhaps Porter Goss achieved his high position (and thus considered himself untouchable) because he had acquired dope on Administration officials via the Hookergate operation. (Could he have "gotten something" on Bush himself?) The only way to undo a blackmailer is to get something on him. If Goss can, in fact, be linked to Skyway, then anyone who wanted rid of him would have found a way to achieve a "balance of terror."

Plenty of other scenarios suggest themselves, of course. I offer the above speculation simply to invite others to ponder these mysteries. As you try to conjure up your own possible version of events, mull over this fascinating chunk of Hopsicker's tale:

    But SkyWay, which only lost $40 million of investors money, is an absolute paragon of excellence, corporate governance-wise, when compared to the DC9's previous owner...

    Genesis Aviation is one of several dozen company fronts, all of which contain the name "Genesis" in the title, controlled by one of the key figures in the Iran Contra scandal, Saudi billionaire and long-time CIA asset Adnan Khashoggi.

    Last month the Securities and Exchange Commission charged Khashoggi and Ramy Al Batrawi, his lieutenant for the past 20 years, with stock fraud in U.S. District Court for Central California. The men are accused of orchestrating a $130 million fraud involving the stock price of GenesisIntermedia.

    When the helpful Khashoggi worked with Oliver North to sell arms to Iran, Ramy El-Batrawi was there, as president of a Khashoggi company, Jetborne International, indicted for illegally ferrying TOW missiles to Iran, an "enterprise" which netted someone—though not the U.S. Government or the Contras it was supposedly funding—a tidy bit of change.

    Apparently neither man learned that crime doesn't pay, because Adnan and Ramy's recent pilferage make the Kovars look like kids stealing a candy bar from a 7-11 after school.

    "Just three months after the company's Initial Public Offering (IPO), the nearly $17 million raised in the offering was gone," read one wire service story.

    "The creative dealings of defendant El-Batrawi partly explains how this money disappeared so quickly," reported the AP.

To which I must add this comment offered by an anonymous reader in reaction to a previous post on this scandal:

    I did some more research. Two parties who are suspected of having foreknowledge of the 9-11 attacks: Anthony Elgindy and Adnan Khashoggi link to each other through Costa Rican Red Sea Management. Khashoggi associate Pakistani Rafi Khan did business with Canadian Stephen Taub. Stephen Taub referred Rakesh Saxena, the man who embezzled $88M from an Thai bank, to Red Sea Management.

    Red Sea Management was involved in Sky Way's mysterious 'DuPont' investment fund, which injected $7M including a DC-9 into Sky Way in 2004. Through a shareholder in Sky Way related Royal Sons, also last owner of the captured plane had activities in a hangar of Huffman aviation at the same time the hijackers were trained there. Atta and Al-Shehhi are believed to have practiced landings and take-offs after closing hours on the Clearwater airport where Royal Sons has it's HQ.

    All coincidences? I don't think so. It might connect many pieces of the 9-11 jigsaw puzzle, including Sibel Edmonds hints, The Israeli Art Students DEA groups and more.

posted: 4:35 AM

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/05/ ... kyway.html

There are just way too man coincidences between Alex Jones, Khashoggi, John Gray (Founder of 911truth.org), Mohammed Atta and Jewish casino owner Carl Icahn.

And now, lo and behold, enter prominent shill Michael Ruppert (who has suddenly disappeared from the scene) into the fray.

We really cannot grasp the scope of this.

"So John Gray owes his huge success and resulting fortune to Khashoggi's "Saudi Genesis," an intricate web of rapidly changing corporate fronts and dummy corporations with the word "Genesis" in their name, involved in wholesale criminal fraud that looks to be a textbook example of a Continuing Criminal Enterprise.

Saudi money picked up John Gray's book (and Gray himself) and ran with it; creating infomercials that drove sales of until they became a worldwide publishing phenomenon. Michael C. Ruppert and the phony 9/11 'Truth Movement' are defending taking money from owes his fame and success to Saudi money from Adnan Khashoggi, provided through a company incorporated by Barry Seal's attorney, the same man currently suing us for 'emotional distress.'  

No doubt this is just a freak coincidence.

Gray is even alleged to be involved, in papers filed in a major lawsuit in Federal Court in Minneapolis, in the recent $200 million looting the Genesis principals engaged in while on their way out of town. His trading account was used in the scheme, alleges the suit.

But apparently that doesn't make him a close associate of Adnan Khashoggi...not at least for purposes of taking money from him. Not in Michael Ruppert's book. But then proof is something the former detective appears to disdain, as witness his incessant pushing of 9.11 Red herrings from "Bush Knew" to "No Pilots" to "No Planes" to "Peak Oil," his latest "the end of the world as we know it" pulpit-pounder.    "

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Are three prominent patriot shills Alex Jones, Michael Ruppert, and John Gray all linked by coincidence? Highly unlikely. They all have the same MO.

There is absolutely no question that Khashoggi is Mossad. It's no wonder Alex Jones can freely blame the conspiracy on  the Saudis. Hollywood is Saudi owned after all.

Carlyle Group
Khashoggi has invested in the Carlyle Group.

George H. W. Bush
Bush pardoned Khashoggi.

John Gray
Gray is accused of helping Khashoggi loot $100mil from Genesis Intermedia before it went bankrupt.

Remember Jones "confronting" George W. Bush when he was governor? That incident gained him a lot of attention and followers. Jones was freely allowed to tear the Bushes new assholes while many others were blacklisted for a lot less. How is this? How the hell did Jones know the Lower Manhattan attack was coming?

[youtube:3v6ux7en]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIbTmhmnGb4[/youtube]3v6ux7en]

see 5:50 mark