Gunshots heard at Polish Plane Crash Site-Video!

[Whaler]

POLISH PLANE CRASH TRUTH VIDEO
[youtube:1116u5f1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoUkobHYAlk[/youtube]1116u5f1]

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Pjaynes781 Donald Tusk is going to be taking over, he is completely the opposite of former president Lech Karczynski. Tusk is completely for the globalization of Poland, he's pro New World Order, he's pro European Union, he's pro world bank. Why cant people believe in the FACTS!!!!!!! Why is it people can be hit in the face with a TRUTH hammer and they still say, I cant believe in this, "Theres still no official evidence" Ah, Duh, WAKE UP!!!!! Poland took a stand against the NWO and they took them out. 3 hours ago

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[brandon dean]

oh man... that was a great video - thanks whaler.  that's getting posted on my blog.

so the people being shot were most likely the crew of the plane, which may or may not have even been carrying the polish officials.  I've been wondering about the lack of bodies myself.  again, thanks...

[Seppuku]

Another video of the crash site : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQUCTbg8 ... r_embedded

[brandon dean]

whaler, I want to thank you again.  so far, since yesterday, I've gotten over 400 hits to my site from your youtube vid.  good stuff!

[SolusInAeternum2]

Here's the best stabilised video available:

[youtube:2fpa5ub8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeFPHDxOXYo[/youtube]2fpa5ub8]

I think the "survivor" could possibly be a visual illusion caused by a reflection. The motion of the patch of white (@ 0:38) corresponding to the "right arm" is a little odd. I'm not sure either way.

[Whaler]

whaler, I want to thank you again.  so far, since yesterday, I've gotten over 400 hits to my site from your youtube vid.  good stuff!

That's awesome! I bookmarked the Wizard of Oswald News section news section and will update the description every couple of days with a link to Wizard of Oswald. I'm glad that you are getting hits...you deserve it.

I think the "survivor" could possibly be a visual illusion caused by a reflection. The motion of the patch of white (@ 0:38) corresponding to the "right arm" is a little odd. I'm not sure either way.

Either way there is a lot of other questions that need to be answered. The questions won't go away even if this is not a survivor.

[brandon dean]

whaler, I want to thank you again.  so far, since yesterday, I've gotten over 400 hits to my site from your youtube vid.  good stuff!

That's awesome! I bookmarked the Wizard of Oswald News section news section and will update the description every couple of days with a link to Wizard of Oswald. I'm glad that you are getting hits...you deserve it.

right on whaler.  thanks alot.  I've now gotten over 800 hits directly from that vid, and what's more, some people are staying and checking out more of the site, especially the news section.  I've had a steady stream of traffic, but I haven't been doing my networking lately, so it's been low the last few months (since around christmas).  but I do add content pretty much every day...

most of the attention in traffic my articles get is directed at waronyou.com, since that's the site the bigger sites know about and notice...

[Whaler]

Now they are saying the plane crashed 10 minutes earlier

Does Tu-154 crashed 10 minutes earlier? Prokuratura: Nie wykluczamy Prosecutor: We do not exclude
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... 8kmOFK4EoA

The official hours of Presidential plane crash near Smolensk is 8.56. Ale nie wykluczone, że do wypadku mogło w rzeczywistości dojść ok. 10 minut wcześniej. But it is not inconceivable that the event could actually occur about 10 minutes earlier. "Dziennik Gazeta Prawna" podaje, że 8.56 to jedynie godzina włączenia syren alarmowych na lotnisku. "Official Legal Newspaper" reports that only 8.56 hours including sirens at the airport. Naczelna Prokuratura Wojskowa nie jest w stanie wykluczyć, że ta wersja może być prawdziwa - dowiedziała się Gazeta.pl. The Supreme Military Prosecutor's Office did not rule out the possibility that this version may be true - Gazeta.pl learned.

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[brandon dean]

so I finally wrote an article about this stuff.  whaler, if you want a link to my site for youtube, here it is:

http://wizardofoswald.com/news/poland-r ... ssinations

 :up:

Poland, Russia, Gas Deals, Plane Crashes and Political Assassinations

Rumors fly as video shows apparent plane crash survivors–including one who appears to get shot–directly after what sound exactly like gunshots.

Brandon Dean
WizardofOswald.com
April 23rd, 2010

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but when a single plane crashes, killing the entire top echelon of any government, I hear air raid sirens going off in my head.  When the wiped out government happens to represent a nation about to take on the biggest business deal in its history–and the now-dead president was going to axe that deal–I do not have to be told things are not as they appear to be, at least if you watch the zionist U.S. media.

In case you've lost your remote control or your internet connection in the last couple weeks, and just now got back online, a 96-member delegation of the Polish government was wiped out in what the Russians are telling us is an "accident."

Some of the members of the Polish government and military who died in a plane crash outside of Smolensk, Russia, on April 10th, 2010:

Lech Kaczyński – President of Poland

Maria Kaczyńska – Wife of Lech Kaczynski

Sławomir Skrzypek – Polish Central Bank Governor

WP gen. Franciszek Gągor – Head of the General Staff of the Polish Army

Blasik, Andrzej, Chief of the Polish Air Force.

Karweta, Vice Admiral Andrzej, Commander-in-Chief of the Polish Navy.

Bochenek, Krystyna, Deputy Speaker of the Polish Senate.

Jerzy Szmajdziński – a Vice-Marshal of Polish Sejm and a former Polish minister of defence. Candidate for President of Poland in presidential elections 2010

Władysław Stasiak – Head of the President's Office

Aleksander Szczygło – Head of the National Security Bureau

Andrzej Kremer – Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs

A video was taken by a Smolensk, Russia, local named Andrij Mendierej, in which gun shots can be heard, after what appear to be cries for mercy. Here is an edited version of Mendierej's video, in which the apparent survivors are pointed out.  Also pointed out are three figures walking towards the crash site moments before the gun shots.  Toward the end of the clip, the dark shape of a man jumps from the wreckage of the plane and runs, only to stumble directly after the gunshots:

[youtube:1pbw4iyr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxIFh3NkEvM[/youtube]1pbw4iyr]

Internet blogs and forums all over the world have been reporting that Mendierej was murdered on April 15th.  A user comment on a Polish news site is the source of what may or may not be a rumor.  At this point, whether Mendierej's murder is a rumor or not is up in the air.  His original video is no longer on Youtube.com, where it first appeared.  The above video was re-uploaded to Youtube by another user.

Here is a stabilized version of Mendierej's video:

[youtube:1pbw4iyr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX6ztLe4QLY[/youtube]1pbw4iyr]

Why?

Money tends to drive politics.  Polish President Lech Kaczinski's government was not playing ball with the European Union.  Poland has been procrastinating (as far as the EU is concerned, anyway) with its transfer from its national zloty currency to the euro.

Closer to the target–as far as money is concerned: President Lech Kaczinski was staunchly anti-Russian politically, and was going to deny Russia what would have been (and now is going to be thanks to the Prime Minister Donald Tusk) the biggest business deal in Polish history: a $100 billion dollar gas deal with Russia's nationalized company Gazprom (source).  This deal is now about to go down in spite of Kaczynski.

The following is a paragraph from the above source:

   The contract to buy gas from Gazprom until 2037 will make Poland 100% dependent on Russian gas for the next 28 years in spite of the announcement of the discovery of huge gas reserves in Poland in April just before the memorial service in Katyn, Smolensk.

As luck would have it, a few internet searches can sometimes turn up interesting things.  One of the things that jumped out to me personally was a timesonline.co.uk article from April 5th (five days before the crash), which claims that the gas reserves under Poland would have made her "self-sufficient for the foreseeable future."  Kaczynski was for exploiting these reserves, and axing the deal with Gazprom and the Russians.

From the Times Online article:

    "American technology to produce shale gas is unleashing a scramble for drilling rights in Poland, where experts believe vast reserves of unconventional gas exist that could help to weaken Russia's grip on Europe's energy supplies."

So, to recap: five days before the entire top echelon of Poland's government dies in a suspicious plane crash, the world finds out that Poland has vast deposits of previously unreachable gas shale, which would have made importing 70 percent of its gas from Russia obsolete and Poland itself economically self-sustaining.  Then we find out that Kaczynski was about to deny the biggest business deal in Polish history to the national gas company of Russia.  Are we starting to see a motive here?

I believe Kaczynski saw not only Poland's independence from the European Union (and the euro itself)–and not only freedom from dependence on Russian gas–in these reserves of natural gas, but personal fortune and power.  Upstart nations who wish for financial independence and their leaders have always been targets of the international zionist/Jewish banksters, as Germany discovered in 1933.

To make matters worse for Russia, a Polish MP has claimed that the Russian government orchestrated the plane crash.  Not only that, but Polish Catholic Bishop Mieczyslaw Cieslar was killed in what is being called a car accident on his way home from Kaczynski's funeral.  Did he miss the flight to Katyn or something?

People all over the world are suspicious of the crash, and of the gunshots at the crash site recorded by Mendierej.  Not to mention the apparent shooting of one of the passengers, or the fact that there does not appear to be any bodies  of victims (besides the two apparently live victims, one of whom being the one who appears to get shot) in Mendierej's video footage from moments after the crash..

There is something extremely rotten in Smolensk, Russia.  As news unfolds, I will update this site accordingly.  I am particularly interested in knowing if the story of Andrij Mendierej's murder is just a rumor, or actually happened.  The motive for killing him is there: if he witnessed or recorded people being shot (as it certainly appears he did), those shooters may just fear him testifying against them-in court or in the press.  If it is just a rumor, I'm interested in the source of the rumor: was it just a sick joke by a spiteful person, or was the information covered up?  Or was a rumor spread to make the investigation into the "accident" look silly?  That would make sense if it is a rumor, given that everyone it seems in the alternative press (including me) jumped on it right away.  I saw the source was a Polish website, but did not realize it was a comment by a user, as opposed to a story by the main site, and i believe many others made the same assumption originally.  More has been unfolding every day, so we'll just have to wait this one out a little.  The fact that there are no mainstream news sources on this story may tell others it is just a rumor, but I feel the need to point out that there is no mainstream coverage of Mendierej's video at all.  It very well may be a rumor, but I'll reserve judgment until all the cards are in.  I'd personally like to see another video from him.  That should satisfy everyone on whether he's still alive or not.

I personally couldn't be more suspicious of the official story of this supposed accident.  I also wish to point out that we still most likely do not know all there is to be known about this.  The truth has a tendency of outing itself however, sometimes with the help of a few good bloggers.

© Brandon Dean, 2010

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Jewish Delegation Cancelled Journey On Polish President's Plane
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/136941)


A Jewish delegation from Poland, including the American-born Chief Rabbi Michael Schudrich, was spared from certain death by refusing to violate the Sabbath to fly with President Lech Kaczynski. The president, his wife, his military chief of staff and senior political leaders were killed on Saturday when the plane crashed en route to a Russian city.
The Jewish delegation was supposed to fly with the president, according to Warsaw Rabbi Meir Stembler. "The delegation canceled its participation after it was understood that that plane was to fly on the Sabbath," he said.
"They planned to say Kaddish [the mourner's prayer] at the planned commemoration ceremony in a Russian city, marking 70 years since the Soviet murder of 20,000 Poles.
Rabbi Stembler said that President Kaczynski was personally responsible for helping with the construction of a Jewish museum in the location of the former Jewish ghetto in Warsaw and which is to be dedicated in the near future. President Kaczynski helped promote and encourage the building project when he was mayor of Warsaw and continued his efforts as president.
"The relation between the Jewish community and the president was very strong," the rabbi said. "He took care of all of its needs, not just in words but also in deeds. There were not any major events where he did not honor the community with his presence."
The crash on Saturday wiped out a large part of the elite establishment of the government, and it is not clear why the government took the risk of allowing all of them to fly on one plane. The pilot, who also died in the crash, was blamed for ignoring Russian air controllers' advice not to try to land under severe weather conditions.

Jewincidence?

edit: my bad i see this has already been posted.

[Whaler]

so I finally wrote an article about this stuff. whaler, if you want a link to my site for youtube, here it is:

http://wizardofoswald.com/news/poland-r ... ssinations

Great article.  :up:

I posted it a couple of hours ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX6ztLe4QLY

Poland, Russia, Gas Deals, Plane Crashes and Political Assassinations http://wizardofoswald.com/news/poland...

reamonnk - Check out the first link in the video description for breaking news and analysis on the Polish Plane crash.

[brandon dean]

you, whaler, are a scholar and a gentleman...