Why is Henry Makow promoting SubvertedNation?

[brandon dean]

"my wage slavery? you don't have a fucking clue about me, junior anarchist. I don't work for anyone. I am an independent UNDER THE TABLE contractor. any more idiotic statements?"

Uhh huh... under the table, well that's good, good for you... but you are operating within a loophole of the system, that not everyone can take advantage of.  

Wouldn't it be better if everyone could have that freedom?

"you obviously have either never read the protocols, or lack the wit to understand them."

Protocols Schmotocols

http://ziofascism.net/blog/2009/08/prot ... hmotocols/

ok, I take it back.  you are a shill.  you have just pointed me to a protocols-debunking article by a JEW,

As my grandfather, a Russian Jew, would have said

which was reproduced by a JEW, jared israel.  

I'm done talking to you.  fuck off.

[jai_mann]

I did reply to you - on this page!  You want me to reply point for point for every sentence you type out?  Sorry but I'd rather go one point at a time.

The fact is that property ownership, that is not being put to active use by the owner, is exploitive property ownership that is used to make others slaves.

"I don't want you to "type the video out." I want you to use your own words to express YOUR view, not another person's words. can you wrap your mind around that, junior? I don't want to know what this youtube moron thinks. I was talking to you, not him. so now, as a point of principle, I'm not going to watch the video for sure, and I could care less if or how you respond to this, because it is a waste of time."

Why didn't you just watch the video?  It was there to illustrate a point... but you get mad because I didn't reply to every sentence of your reply?

Sorry but it is the human behavior, and interaction that creates exploitation, not environmental stimuli, such as property. If one individual demands that others in a given region pay tribute or taxes then it is that behavior which is exploitative. If, within a corporate structure, some one high on the ladder makes demands of someone low on the ladder, that is exploitation. In either case the one who has the demand made of them has a choice to either comply or not comply. The concern is the consequences. It is the relationship which is exploited.

The video was ridiculous and the guy it cut over to appeared to be one of these god damned moral relativists given his arguments. The only people I know who push the whole moral relativism tend be the "chosen".

You've been evasive in responding to the Brandon's responses. I don't plan on getting dragged down into a complete waste of time with your arguments so this will be it for me on this thread. The cost/benefit ratio is too low for doing so.

"...and you will know them by the fruits of their labor..."

[anarchore]

"my wage slavery? you don't have a fucking clue about me, junior anarchist. I don't work for anyone. I am an independent UNDER THE TABLE contractor. any more idiotic statements?"

Uhh huh... under the table, well that's good, good for you... but you are operating within a loophole of the system, that not everyone can take advantage of.  

Wouldn't it be better if everyone could have that freedom?

"you obviously have either never read the protocols, or lack the wit to understand them."

Protocols Schmotocols

http://ziofascism.net/blog/2009/08/prot ... hmotocols/

ok, I take it back.  you are a shill.  you have just pointed me to a protocols-debunking article by a JEW,

So?  Wasn't the Protocols supposedly written by a J-w?  

As my grandfather, a Russian Jew, would have said

which was reproduced by a JEW, jared israel.  

I'm done talking to you.  fuck off.

That's intellectual fallacy you're working under.

If a J-w yells "fire", do you stay in the building while it fills with smoke(assuming the J-w didn't lie, hee hee)?

No matter who tells it the fact remains they were plagiarized.  

You want a white guy to tell you about it?  Here's Birdman Bryant:

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/newsletters/n401.htm

Some Common Sense About the Protocols

In 1903 a book was published in Russia which is now known as The  Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, or just The Protocols. It purports to  be the Jewish master plan for takeover of the world, and a great many people in  the present day believe that is exactly what it is. The Protocols achieved  serious attention the Western world in 1921, when reviews of it supposedly  proving that it was a 'forgery' appeared in the British press. In spite of these  and many subsequent denunciations, this book has become one of the most  widely-read books in the world. Henry Ford, the legendary auto manufacturer who  became convinced of a Jewish world conspiracy by talking with influential Jews  who were passengers on the 'peace ship' which he had chartered in order to help  end WW1, remarked that he knew not whether the Protocols was a forgery; he knew  only that it had described the world situation accurately since the time it had  been published.

Critics of The Protocols in the present day usually claim that it is  a 'forgery', or more precisely, a book which has been plagiarized from a much  earlier book by Maurice Joly entitled Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and  Montesquieu ('The Dialogue'). My own view is that, while I believe that the  Jewish establishment is indeed following a master plan to take over the world,  and while that master plan may have many points in common with The Protocols, I  believe that The Protocols did not originate as such a plan, and that it  constitutes what I call an 'MLK plagiarism' of Joly's book, ie, compilation of  plagiarized parts, sometimes modified, combined with some original material,  much like MLK's doctoral thesis and many other things MLK supposedly authored. I  offer this public expression of my views for the simple reason that I believe it  is a serious mistake, both moral and tactical, to accuse the Jews falsely,  inasmuch as there are many high crimes and low misdemeanors which may be laid at  the Jewish doorstep, but to make a false allegation is to throw the true and  valid charges into question, since a false charge among the true will invite  rejection of both true and false charges because the true charges are tainted by  the false one according to the ancient criterion, "False in one thing; false in  all. In this sense, then, the promotion of The Protocols -- along with an  equally strong demonstration of their falsity -- in fact gives aid and comfort  to the Jewish conspirators, because it effectively paints the stupid goy  believers as idiots and ignorants.

So why, then, do I think the Protocols are a 'forgery'? To explain, I  begin by noting that The Dialogue, published in 1864, was in fact a critique of  the regime of Napoleon III. Next, I assert that the Protocols was a plagiarism  of the Dialogue, a book published almost 40 years earlier. I say this, not  merely on the basis that other critics of the Protocols have asserted the same,  but also -- and most importantly -- on the basis that my wife, a 4-year  full-academic-scholarship French major and Phi Beta Kappa graduate, compared the  Joly text with that of the Protocols and concluded that the Protocols was a  plagiarism of Joly. With these points in mind, then, we see that if the  Protocols were lifted from a book which was intended as a criticism of Emperor  Napoleon III in the 1860s, as in fact it was, then it is absurd to think it is a  'Jewish master plan'. That is, if the Protocols was really a pre-existing Jewish  master plan, then why was it turned into a critique of Napoleon III? This is  something akin to taking a physics book and plagiarizing it to create an  exercise manual -- it just makes no sense. To the contrary, the simplest  explanation of the correspondence between the Dialogue and the Protocols is  plagiarism, and under the criterion of Occam's Razor, or the Law of Parsimony,  this explanation must be accepted unless there is additional data which does not  fit this explanation.

The logic of the above argument must evidently stand or fall on  whether one reckons that the Protocols was in fact plagiarized from the  Dialogue. To some extent this is a matter of judgment, and the argument will  probably go on for some time -- mostly, of course, among those who do not speak  both French and English -- until the Jews decide that the controversy has served  their purpose sufficiently, and that therefore any remaining copies of Dialogue  and the Protocols shall be burned in the public square by the  hangman.

APPENDIX: Statements of Protocols supporters and Birdman  responses

HENRY MAKOW, in his article PROTOCOLS FORGERY ARGUMENT IS FLAWED (on  the Net) says the following:

In my opinion, the outlawing of Protocols on pain of death in  Bolshevik Russia and its execration in the West today proves its  authenticity.

Birdman response: It proves no such thing. It merely shows that the  mostly-Jewish Bolsheviks and the Western Jewsmedia didn't want criticism of Jews  popping up anywhere.

VOLTAIRE/Bill the Hermit describes the above article as a 'point by  point' refutation by Henry Makow that Joly and the Protocols substantially  differ in tone and content.

Birdman comment: They do differ -- the Protocols is a scaled-down  version of the Dialogue, reduced in size by about 50%. And we will grant that  there are differences in tone and content. But that doesn't change any arguments  we have made in this essay.

[jai_mann]

"my wage slavery? you don't have a fucking clue about me, junior anarchist. I don't work for anyone. I am an independent UNDER THE TABLE contractor. any more idiotic statements?"

Uhh huh... under the table, well that's good, good for you... but you are operating within a loophole of the system, that not everyone can take advantage of.  

Wouldn't it be better if everyone could have that freedom?

"you obviously have either never read the protocols, or lack the wit to understand them."

Protocols Schmotocols

http://ziofascism.net/blog/2009/08/prot ... hmotocols/

Every one DOES have the freedom to not pay into the US corporation. They just choose to go along with it due to heavy brain washing which has been forced on them in the public school system. I haven't paid taxes to the fucking criminals DBA the US corporation in years. They can KMA. If other people don't want to be a part of that system then all they have to do is work outside of it. It's not hard. There's nothing complex about it. Just don't go working for other people who decide that they're going to file crap with that corporation to suck you in. If enough people had the balls to do this then we could probably have enough of a critical mass to address the bullshit land taxes that are being foisted on the public via local municipalities. Too many people are lazy and weak and they'd rather take it up the ass with vaseline than turn around and fight. And they also try to drag those of us who will buck the system down. There's NOTHING keeping them IN the system. NOTHING. They stay from ignorance, moral cowardliness, the slavish mentality which has been drilled into their heads.

[anarchore]

Heh, actually Jai I am doing the same thing myself.  I am working at a place semi-regularly, but as a 'contractor'.  :-)  This is the arrangement I will be demanding from now on!  I know that the govt are crooks though, and don't they have something called tax evasion?  Or is that only if you file?

[brandon dean]

"my wage slavery? you don't have a fucking clue about me, junior anarchist. I don't work for anyone. I am an independent UNDER THE TABLE contractor. any more idiotic statements?"

Uhh huh... under the table, well that's good, good for you... but you are operating within a loophole of the system, that not everyone can take advantage of.  

Wouldn't it be better if everyone could have that freedom?

"you obviously have either never read the protocols, or lack the wit to understand them."

Protocols Schmotocols

http://ziofascism.net/blog/2009/08/prot ... hmotocols/

Every one DOES have the freedom to not pay into the US corporation. They just choose to go along with it due to heavy brain washing which has been forced on them in the public school system. I haven't paid taxes to the fucking criminals DBA the US corporation in years. They can KMA. If other people don't want to be a part of that system then all they have to do is work outside of it. It's not hard. There's nothing complex about it. Just don't go working for other people who decide that they're going to file crap with that corporation to suck you in. If enough people had the balls to do this then we could probably have enough of a critical mass to address the bullshit land taxes that are being foisted on the public via local municipalities. Too many people are lazy and weak and they'd rather take it up the ass with vaseline than turn around and fight. And they also try to drag those of us who will buck the system down. There's NOTHING keeping them IN the system. NOTHING. They stay from ignorance, moral cowardliness, the slavish mentality which has been drilled into their heads.

jai mann, you are absolutely correct.  couldn't agree more.

I have never paid taxes to the IRS, filed a tax return, anything.  if you don't sign their contract, you don't owe them shit.  I haven't had a "legitimate" job in years, and they can blow me.  they've halfass tried to come after me, but I ignored their threats and life goes on.  I am my own boss, and I will remain so.  no one tells me what to do unless they have the drop on me with a gun.  even then, I'm gonna try to find a way out of listening to them.  all anyone ever needed to do was REFUSE to participate.  I refused at an early age, and I have paid dearly for my freedom, but that's life.  I have nothing holding me to their credit system, and I own nothing of value which they know about to repossess.  I don't even have a drivers license, and I don't plan on getting one.  I did have one years ago, but old speeding tickets decided the fate of that one for me, and I'm just rolling with it.  I will never get a marriage license, and I will never pay taxes when I buy a car.  I refuse to give anyone my social security number.  if my birth certificate isn't good enough, I don't need it.  I haven't had a bank account in years, and I deal strictly in cash or barter.  I've never had a credit card, and never plan on getting one.

it is completely possible to be free, even in this most corrupt of societies.  it is hard to live free in a corrupt world, but it is more than possible.  I explain myself and my motives a lot I find, for instance.  that can be tiring.  and I always have to deal with the fact that my car will be stolen from me by a cop who doesn't understand my constitutional rights, and that can really be tiring.  but no one owns me, and there is no greater feeling than owning yourself.

[anarchore]

You tell yourself you're free.

Ahh but you have to pay rent/mortgage to someone holding exploitive property, unless you're homeless... they don't have to do work, but you do to have a place to live.  So you are a slave, J-ws or not.

[brandon dean]

You tell yourself you're free.

Ahh but you have to pay rent/mortgage to someone holding exploitive property, unless you're homeless... they don't have to do work, but you do to have a place to live.  So you are a slave, J-ws or not.

are you still babbling?  all I hear is "quack quack quack" coming out the side of your neck.  fucking dilettante...

[anarchore]

Well, do you pay for the priviledge of shelter, or not?  Still think you're free?

[brandon dean]

Well, do you pay for the priviledge of shelter, or not?  Still think you're free?

yeah, and I also pay for food, dipshit.  am I being exploited in that way too? are people just supposed to hand over to me the food they grow?  you ever heard of an even exchange of goods and services?  oh yeah, you're about 22 I'm sure, and I'm also sure you grew up in a middle class neighborhood, and have liberal friends who are all virulent "anti-racists" and vegetarians and feminists too, right?  grow up junior.  you have to work for what you want in this world.  working for money, when it gains you the things you need to survive in this life, is not "exploitation."  you are just lazy and childish, and want everything for free so you don't have to work, and you can just keep spreading useless information around the internet.

it's all the fault of "capitalism" and "fascism" and any other "-ism" you can come up with.  all of western civilization is corrupt and immoral, right?  like I said, "dilettante."

[anarchore]

"are people just supposed to hand over to me the food they grow?"

No the food they grew is not exploitive property.

On the other hand your usurous J-w landlord, or the bank you pay mortgage to, didn't grow the land... all that class did is grow the bubble that makes housing too expensive to afford.

See, you could have saved yourself the effort to make such an idiot of yourself if you'd merely watched the video.

"you ever heard of an even exchange of goods and services?"

Sounds great!  Where can we find it?

"I'm sure, and I'm also sure you grew up in a middle class neighborhood"

Nope, working poor.  

"and have liberal friends who are all virulent "anti-racists" and vegetarians and feminists too, right? grow up junior."

 :crazy:

"it's all the fault of "capitalism" and "fascism" and any other "-ism" you can come up with. "

It's all the fault of Juda-ism?   :lol:


Demonstration of the aphorism, "insult is the last refuge of the out-argued":

"dipshit."

"you're about 22"

"you grew up in a middle class neighborhood"

"grow up junior"

"you are just lazy and childish"

"like I said, "dilettante.""

Wow!  All in one paragraph! :clap:

[brandon dean]

worthless.  you are a total distraction.  jerk off to your ideas all you want.

[jai_mann]

Heh, actually Jai I am doing the same thing myself.  I am working at a place semi-regularly, but as a 'contractor'.  :-)  This is the arrangement I will be demanding from now on!  I know that the govt are crooks though, and don't they have something called tax evasion?  Or is that only if you file?

Dishonest argument. There's a thing called theft and those fuckers like to label it terms like the one you just introduced. They can label it whatever they want, they're still stealing from other people. That's the bottom line.

[jai_mann]

You tell yourself you're free.

Ahh but you have to pay rent/mortgage to someone holding exploitive property, unless you're homeless... they don't have to do work, but you do to have a place to live.  So you are a slave, J-ws or not.

Again, relationships are exploitive, not environmental stimuli. The house that one sleeps in isn't engaging in any behavior. It's not exploiting any thing. One person gives something of value in return for something of value. And there's nothing stopping people from calling local corporations to task when they attempt to extort money in so called "taxes". I know people who are fighting and keeping such groups at bay, in smaller communities. The larger communities are more of a problem due to the brainwashed criminal thugs known as corporate revenue officers. Yeh the muscle for the corporations. I plan on taking the same road that I've seen others take once I'm out of school. Small communities give a lot more options.

[anarchore]

You tell yourself you're free.

Ahh but you have to pay rent/mortgage to someone holding exploitive property, unless you're homeless... they don't have to do work, but you do to have a place to live.  So you are a slave, J-ws or not.

Again, relationships are exploitive, not environmental stimuli. The house that one sleeps in isn't engaging in any behavior. It's not exploiting any thing. One person gives something of value in return for something of value. And there's nothing stopping people from calling local corporations to task when they attempt to extort money in so called "taxes". I know people who are fighting and keeping such groups at bay, in smaller communities. The larger communities are more of a problem due to the brainwashed criminal thugs known as corporate revenue officers. Yeh the muscle for the corporations. I plan on taking the same road that I've seen others take once I'm out of school. Small communities give a lot more options.

Well obviously something is off-kilter, when the housing market necessitates that people go into debt to the usury system to have a house to 'call' their own.

The present system perpetuates slavery because property can be stockpiled by those who already have some.

The fact that you could work for 100 years and not be able to buy a home at today's prices, should make it clear that exploitively held private property AKA 'real estate' is the prime source of homelessness and poverty.

[GordZilla]

Well obviously something is off-kilter, when the housing market necessitates that people go into debt to the usury system to have a house to 'call' their own.

The present system perpetuates slavery because property can be stockpiled by those who already have some.

The fact that you could work for 100 years and not be able to buy a home at today's prices, should make it clear that exploitively held private property AKA 'real estate' is the prime source of homelessness and poverty.

Yeah it's as 'clear' as blaming the gun for the murder in a shooting death. No, once again it's not the system (the tool) to blame - it's those who use it and maintain it to their advantage. Remove them and things will equal out on their own merits. Cause if you remove them then honesty and integrity magically reappear in these systems. These systems worked fine before; A house (or real estate) could be purchase outright by potential home owners, no problem (at least in North America) before they got their hands on it and defecated all over it.

Why you fail, time after time, to realize this has a direct correlation to your popularity on this site. The rest of us seem to get this fact. To fight cancer REMOVE it. Don't blame the body for helping it to spread.

To put it another way; The most peaceful and prosperous times any nation ever had the pleasure of enjoying is almost ALWAYS do to the lack of control that Talmudic Jews had in their regions. Once they have their feet on the foreign body's soil, the cancer sets in and the nation dies. Add history and repeat. This is as clear as day for most of us, Anarchore.

[anarchore]

Well obviously something is off-kilter, when the housing market necessitates that people go into debt to the usury system to have a house to 'call' their own.

The present system perpetuates slavery because property can be stockpiled by those who already have some.

The fact that you could work for 100 years and not be able to buy a home at today's prices, should make it clear that exploitively held private property AKA 'real estate' is the prime source of homelessness and poverty.

Yeah it's as 'clear' as blaming the gun for the murder in a shooting death. No, once again it's not the system (the tool) to blame - it's those who use it and maintain it to their advantage.

OK, so that's your opinion.  

You fail to demonstrate that a system predicated on slavery, will fail to operate in the same way once a group of mostly scapegoats are removed.  Greed is not confined to one group of people, and the wealthy and powerful push their way around in communities all over the world.

It's not just the J-ws pushing immigration in Canada, everyone thinks it's great, because the masses have bought into the usury system with their mortgages and they want that housing bubble to grow and inflate the value of their homes.  And then there are the developers and speculators.

It is that system, that is the problem(and the ingrained attitudes of people who bought into it).  It makes people support reckless mass immigration, because they have an economic stake in it.  It has nothing to do with the J-ws, but greedy rich people in general, and those who want to get rich doing such ignoble tasks as real estate flipping.

These systems worked fine before; A house (or real estate) could be purchase outright by potential home owners, no problem (at least in North America) before they got their hands on it and defecated all over it.

Are you in favour of the usury(banking, mortgage) system?

Why you fail, time after time, to realize this has a direct correlation to your popularity on this site.

Ahhh the old 'argument by popularity' gambit.  Compelling.

The rest of us seem to get this fact. To fight cancer REMOVE it. Don't blame the body for helping it to spread.

Ahh but the immune system is the most important key to keeping the body healthy, so the cancer can't take a foothold.

To put it another way; The most peaceful and prosperous times any nation ever had the pleasure of enjoying is almost ALWAYS do to the lack of control that Talmudic Jews had in their regions. Once they have their feet on the foreign body's soil, the cancer sets in and the nation dies. Add history and repeat. This is as clear as day for most of us, Anarchore.

Well maybe they're carriers of the cancer... but once infected the sickness is endemic in the society.

It depends I guess on where you see the cancer to have started.  

I see it starting when the Pharisees invented usury and started enslaving their people and the world to it.  

The usury/greed/exploitive property society is very ingrained, on everyone's psyche.  

If everyone is thinking and acting like a 'greedy J-w', playing stocks instead of working, manipulating property, what difference would it make to remove just the J-ws?

You remember that Prothink was going to make a video about 'Usury', last year?  

He advertised for months that it was almost finished, but it never appeared.

I think what happened was that he realised that if he indicted the system, that he would have to admit that it is so big, it is beyond anyone's control, including those who initiated it.

I'm not talking about the Madoffs, etc... they were certainly numerous... but just because the majority of the Madoff types are J-ws, it doesn't follow that all J-ws are Madoff types.

There are plenty of scumbag gentiles out there whose moral character is centered completely around their financial success, and there are plenty of those who collude with the J-ws.

Add history and repeat. This is as clear as day for most of us, Anarchore.

I'd like to see where this consensus for the board was arrived at, and if I missed it then pardon me.  But if there is still free thinking allowed on the subject, as unpopular as it may be, your 'solution' is extreme wouldn't you say?  

Woudln't it be better if it were possible to shut down the psychopaths source of power?

Surely any deportation plan would meet with resistance; you would have a civil war.  

Your way would surely lead to ugliness of attitudes, fertile ground for pathocracy beyond your imagination to rise up.

[anarchore]

Break the circle and stop the movement
the wheel is thrown to the ground
Just remember it might start rolling
and take you right back around

m/    m/
[youtube:37zjcqkm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rajfsx0sUnU[/youtube]37zjcqkm]

[GordZilla]

"Outright" meaning without mortgage or usury ...saved and bought the home...this is how it USED to be done. Did you read anything at all Anachore?

House flipping, greed etc.,  these are symptoms of the cancer, you're still not getting it.

Things in Canada and the US were not always this way, this was the point I was making, you still blame the symptoms but never the disease. People used to work on honesty and integrity, now its greed. This change was not natural evolution. This change was brought to us by, promoted by and maintained by ...well I'd say "you guessed it" but you probably wouldn't so I'll spell it out for you;
Talmudic Jews and their usurious ways. That's what changed. For the longest time(hundreds of years), while they didn't have power over us,  the issues you described above didn't exist. What changed?
Pretty fricken obvious except to you it seems.

As for immigration? Again when did our original policy change and who changed it?
The problem is not a natural progression of the gentile race. The problem is the result of the gentile race being weakened and poisoned by a foreign peoples who's agenda has always been and always will be to do just that; destroy all that is good, honest and gentile. You can talk all day long 'bout how it ain't this way, but the facts just won't align with your rhetoric no matter how hard you try. So please get yourself banned already, people here are miles ahead of you, and your excuse making is getting pretty lame and obvious.

As for this perspective being 'extreme'? Lol this coming from a self described anarchist, all I can say to that is ; you fool, what is your solution? Oh yeah you don't have one other than 'shut down their sources of power' Well geez, just  how do you propose to do that without ever calling them out? Good luck.

[anarchore]

"Outright" meaning without mortgage or usury ...saved and bought the home...this is how it USED to be done. Did you read anything at all Anachore?

House flipping, greed etc.,  these are symptoms of the cancer, you're still not getting it.

Things in Canada and the US were not always this way, this was the point I was making, you still blame the symptoms but never the disease. People used to work on honesty and integrity, now its greed. This change was not natural evolution. This change was brought to us by, promoted by and maintained by ...well I'd say "you guessed it" but you probably wouldn't so I'll spell it out for you;
Talmudic Jews and their usurious ways. That's what changed. For the longest time(hundreds of years), while they didn't have power over us,  the issues you described above didn't exist. What changed?
Pretty fricken obvious except to you it seems.

As for immigration? Again when did our original policy change and who changed it?
The problem is not a natural progression of the gentile race. The problem is the result of the gentile race being weakened and poisoned by a foreign peoples who's agenda has always been and always will be to do just that; destroy all that is good, honest and gentile. You can talk all day long 'bout how it ain't this way, but the facts just won't align with your rhetoric no matter how hard you try.

So please get yourself banned already, people here are miles ahead of you, and your excuse making is getting pretty lame and obvious.

Immigration in Canada wasn't due to the J-ws, though they do promote it a lot.

"...people here..."

Why do you have to write something like that?  Where is the consensus?  I fail to see it.  In fact many people here are still quite broad-minded, despite a small faction's urgent bullying... like discouraging reasonable debate is reasonable, because "They're all gonna kill us all!" if we stop long enough from banging the war drums to think things though carefully and logically, so as not to create yet another historical atrocity.  It's not excuses, it's compassion for all people of goodwill including if they were born retarded with a stick up their ass.

As for this perspective being 'extreme'? Lol this coming from a self described anarchist, all I can say to that is ; you fool, what is your solution? Oh yeah you don't have one other than 'shut down their sources of power' Well geez, just  how do you propose to do that without ever calling them out? Good luck.

Well at least we are both anti-usury.  

http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/usury.html

The usury has been around for thousands of years.  It corrupts all of society.

So why not start an anti-usury movement, that anyone could participate in?

I mean if you have a movement that asserts enough power for the ethnic cleansing you envision, it should be able to simply make usury illegal, and implement other people-first ammendments, including;

*ammendment of property rights, to include squatter's rights on non used property. No property or any other taxes. This would improve quality of life and dignity of people immeasurably.  Too many people are hungry and homeless, too many artists are forced into subsistence slavery, too little time to think for most people in the world.  Freedom is just around the corner.

*dissolution of military into local armed defence militias, consisting of every person

*democratisation of corporations, revokation of corporate personhood

*a benevolent Khmer Rouge - style disdain for professionals, most of whom are in the service of state control and oppression.. so their occupations will eventually no longer exist... no more lawyers, cops, prison guards, psychiatrics, most sciences, etc

What did you say about persecuting a group of mostly innocent people again?  

Is that the point of this site?  If so, goodbye and you can all eat a shit sandwhich. Where is the consensus?  If there is none(and I know there isn't), then cut out with the bullying manipulations.

I've mopped up the internet with the pathetic asses of Adam Austin, Curt May'tard, InCONman, and other governmetn creeps who don't have the courage of their contrived convictions- because they're simply working with a script and you're not the director- so they really hate debate.  So don't think you're going to put me under with your lame intellectual fallacies.

They don't like debate because they can't defend their positions.  Because they're wrong.

Break the circle and stop the movement, the wheel is thrown to the ground
Just remember it might start rolling and take you right back around

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[GordZilla]

Mostly innocent? Are you sure? Abolish usury and that will fix our troubles?

'Fraid not, been tried and it's failed. I feel you do not understand your enemy too well at all. You may think they are 'mostly innocent', as often they appear to be, but rest assured if you just got rid of those that are obviously guilty others will simply pick up where they left off. It's in their blood. They are our opposite. (Hell they even come with their own diseases that others are not susceptible to - they are different indeed)

Take the holocaust for example, with just a little honest study one can see the story is full of shit, yet we have maybe 2 Jews on all the planet that can admit this. Discuss it with any Jew and you are guaranteed to find opposition. Now presume Japan didn't murder any Chinese during world war 2, or the Russians didn't murder any Catholics, go around denying either of these 2 stories and you're bound to find a few Russians or Chinese that will even agree with you. They will at least be open to debate the matter. The Jews are a little different on this front. They will always side with the tribe, not matter what compelling evidence you may have. It's this unity that will make sure any 'movement' like abolishing usury would fail. Sure at first you'd have success but rest assured a Jew will pick up their torch where others have been forced to drop it. Their agenda is ingrained in them, their dislike of gentiles will not go away. You think they pulled this off with just a handful of them actually pulling the strings? Sorry, but they work in complete unity on this front.

The only solution that will guarantee an end to their game is isolation and permanent containment. If you allow a mere handful of Talmudic Jews to escape containment, rest assured they will turn Murano and wait and breed and a few decades or a hundred years they will once again get into positions of influence and start the ball rolling again. This is exactly why history repeats; we go to sleep , the Jew takes control, we realize it, we take 'measures' to end it, they go into hiding and wait for us to go back to sleep and then repeat.  This is done by not a mere handful of them but by the MAJORITY of their community. They are simply a different species than the rest of us.They will NEVER feel as though they are part of our community, They will always see themselves as our superiors, NEVER our equals.

The solution doesn't have to be genocide but complete, permanent and total containment is absolutely necessary. Making laws do deter their natural practices will not last, they will simply worm their way into positions of power (once again) and change those laws (once again). Your 'solutions' have been tried before my friend. Tried and failed. They fail as people like us are generally trusting, we believe in the better nature of people. We believe 'people are people' but we're not all alike, most are but not all. When were taking about a people whose common agenda is worldwide rule, than a peaceful solution is not likely to deter them for very long.

The only other solution is to have faith in God, they hate that as well, but that is now a pipe dream as they have all but decimated any chance of the people reverting back to true faithful practices. They have turned most of the world's Christians into 'Judeo-Christians' who are probably the most useless brainwashed people on earth.

It took their WHOLE community and thousands of years to get to where they are now, in total absolute and worldwide power. You think this was done with the majority of them being innocent or ignorant of the process? If so I have a some real estate in Florida to sell ya.  

Maybe not all Jews are religious (I don't believe any are as their books are not of God's but of man's code) but surely they at least are aware of the teachings of the Talmud. As most Whites are aware of the teachings of Jesus even though the majority of them are no longer religious. Do you not see the implications that has on their whole community? It makes them arrogant, and leaves them with a feeling of 'we're better than you' and 'it's us against them' . This will not change by mere 'law making'. Much like your own feeling of superiority of all the people you 'moped the floor' with will not change by simply being countered by facts. It's in their heads as it's in yours; this infallible ego.  

"A nation who forgets God is destined to be ruled by Jews"

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

"Outright" meaning without mortgage or usury ...saved and bought the home...this is how it USED to be done. Did you read anything at all Anachore?

House flipping, greed etc., these are symptoms of the cancer, you're still not getting it.

Things in Canada and the US were not always this way, this was the point I was making, you still blame the symptoms but never the disease. People used to work on honesty and integrity, now its greed. This change was not natural evolution. This change was brought to us by, promoted by and maintained by ...well I'd say "you guessed it" but you probably wouldn't so I'll spell it out for you;
Talmudic Jews and their usurious ways. That's what changed. For the longest time(hundreds of years), while they didn't have power over us, the issues you described above didn't exist. What changed?
Pretty fricken obvious except to you it seems.

"A nation who forgets God is destined to be ruled by Jews"

Well said Gord and excellent points!  It is all too obvious. Sad, but that is the way it is.

[anarchore]

No, there are too many English elites as well, masonic elites etc.  The expulsion of the J-ws is a con.  What about all the cryptos?  You will do blood tests, skull measurements?

The J-ws as a whole are a great scapegoat because a lot of them ARE corrupt, so I have no doubt the crypto elites are going to have no problem helping expel and rob "the Jews", as they did in the past.

Problem is most of the J-ws like most gentiles, are too brainwashed to know who their real enemy is -the Zionist/Masonic powers.
 
If you don't want to change the system and get rid of usury you don't want to fix anything at all.  

Abolishing the usury system is the only way to ensure the 'revolution' isn't just another con.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

No, there are too many English elites as well, masonic elites etc.

And masonry was invented and set up by Jews as a recruiting tool for "shabbas goy". But that's a typical Alex jones style ploy to deflect the issue, is to refer to these ancillary groups but forget to mention who runs the show in that ballpark as well. No group is more subversive than jews. no group is more greedy than jews. No group is more totally organized and hell bent on domination than the jews. No group has more power than the Jews, therefore it's the jews who are the problem not just elites in general. there will always be elites and you're here trying to waste everybody's time with your improbable wet-dream of eradicating elitism which will never happen. the problem will be severely watered down if the jews were not in control. I think you might actually  prefer Jewish elites over Gentile elites...  

The expulsion of the J-ws is a con.  What about all the cryptos?  You will do blood tests, skull measurements?

Just take note of their behavior and the tell tale signs of jewishness will eventually emerge.

The J-ws as a whole are a great scapegoat

No, the great scapegoat is the "white-christian-gentile-germanic-death-cult-royal-family-globalist-nazi-luciferians". And you promote a modified version of that via ur use of such terms as "ziofascism" and "zionazis".

Problem is most of the J-ws like most gentiles, are too brainwashed to know who their real enemy is -the Zionist/Masonic powers.

I don't give a fuck about most jews and they don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. they deserve no cause for concern because it is their tribe which is behind all of the strife therefore they are void of my sympathies and deserve none. But it seems that's all you care about is some rank-n-file Jews who mostly act as support groups for the Jew elite. Yes, you love jews and hate gentiles and could care less about the hundreds of millions who have died at their hands. Ur really sick you know that?

[anarchore]

Just take note of their behavior and the tell tale signs of jewishness will eventually emerge.

Oh my goodness... what a solution.  

I submit that the way that people have been brought up to have mortgages, play the stock and real estate market and all that shiite... what happened to the Protestant Work Ethic? ... I submit that they have the detested J-w/Pharisee worldview internalized and if they keep getting their fake money will defend it to the death.

So it seems for your solution to work, that society needs to be leveled, pretty much destroyed, then the new order will proscribe the odious J-wish behaviour that has seeped into the people's subconscious, like valuing of money and usury, the sick barbaric infant mutilations, ... actually that doesn't sound half bad!  I think the majority of people need to do some serious living on the other side of the fence, a few years of deprivations without satelite TV might make their minds more open to honest evaluation of society.

I am in favour of the Pan-seccessionist ideas of http://attackthesystem.com

Check them out.  The groundwork has been laid.  The new world is just around the corner.

[thirdeyewise]

I find it hilarious how people talk about Freemasonry as if it's not a Jewish controlled organization, set up by Jews to control Gentiles who are willing to play along in their little game of world conquest.