Gates-Tourney-Glenn-Nuclear Blackmail

[Rockclimber]

This is a topic that so few discuss and I find it to be highly credible: Nuclear Blackmail. Along with blackmail in general (compromised politicians) it seems to fit as to why so many american politicians appear to be cowardly and compromised. It truly does have to make you stop and wonder.

Phil Tourney joins the program as co host where we talk with Jeff Gates of http://www.criminalstate.com author of Guilt By Association and Gordon Duff, Chief Editor at http://www.veteranstoday.com  as we discuss recent events dealing with the "lost nukes" Israel is using to blackmail the US into fighting her wars for her.

http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/web/ ... sDuff2.mp3

[superzebra]

what the story between jeff gates and daryl??

i rember that darrel kicked out jeff gates from his show because jeff says 9/11 was elqeada job so darrel said to him bye bye.
and now jeff is a member of vetranstoday.com who cliams that israel did 9/11.

 :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

[Rockclimber]

what the story between jeff gates and daryl??

i rember that darrel kicked out jeff gates from his show because jeff says 9/11 was elqeada job so darrel said to him bye bye.
and now jeff is a member of vetranstoday.com who cliams that israel did 9/11.

 :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

Not sure. It seems Gates wasn't up to speed and DBS found it to be suspicious. It sure seems that Gates has come around. Nobody is perfect in this movement that's for sure. All we can do is try out best to get after the truth.

[superzebra]

i asked mark glenn and this his answer and also can be found on the comments on his website:

guest
June 4, 2010 at 11:26 pm
hallo mark,

you are number one in the truth movment.
mark i would like to ask you about jeff gates.

jeff gates cliams that elqeada and bin laden did 9/11.
i heard him on another show saying that.(iamthewitness.com)

also in his site gates do not have any article on 9/11 issue.

is jeff gates to be trusted: in my opinion no.
what is your opinion, did he changed his mind on 9/11??

for me, anyone who claim that arabs did 9/11 is shill.

if jeff changed his mind on 9/11 issue so plz delete this comment.

mark answer:
–first–THANK YOU for the kind words, although I certainly do not consider myself numero uno.
–next, the answer is YES I trust Jeff Gates. The object right now is not to try and convince brain-dead Americans that arabs did nto do 911 but rather to make them understand that ISRAEL set it up. The first thing–making them think Arabs did not do 911–at this time is an impossibility, plain and simple.

HOWEVER, make them start to see the Jews and Israel as their enemies (doable) and then you are making headway.
I understand Jeff's tactics perfectly. It's called picking your battles–You fight the ones you can win and leave the others for later.

[Rockclimber]

i asked mark glenn and this his answer and also can be found on the comments on his website:

guest
June 4, 2010 at 11:26 pm
hallo mark,

you are number one in the truth movment.
mark i would like to ask you about jeff gates.

jeff gates cliams that elqeada and bin laden did 9/11.
i heard him on another show saying that.(iamthewitness.com)

also in his site gates do not have any article on 9/11 issue.

is jeff gates to be trusted: in my opinion no.
what is your opinion, did he changed his mind on 9/11??

for me, anyone who claim that arabs did 9/11 is shill.

if jeff changed his mind on 9/11 issue so plz delete this comment.

mark answer:
–first–THANK YOU for the kind words, although I certainly do not consider myself numero uno.
–next, the answer is YES I trust Jeff Gates. The object right now is not to try and convince brain-dead Americans that arabs did nto do 911 but rather to make them understand that ISRAEL set it up. The first thing–making them think Arabs did not do 911–at this time is an impossibility, plain and simple.

HOWEVER, make them start to see the Jews and Israel as their enemies (doable) and then you are making headway.
I understand Jeff's tactics perfectly. It's called picking your battles–You fight the ones you can win and leave the others for later.

Interesting superzebra....

A lot of people in the anti-zionist/anti-jewish supremacy movement come at this in different ways. Some don't touch the holocaust. Some don't touch 9-11. Others put a religious spin on it (christian identity).  There will never be consensus and to beleive so is naive. I just appreciate the fact that people are doing something, anything to expose evil.

I will take a Gates over a Jones any day of the week.

[maz]

Gates is admitting the possibility of Israel and false flag right here, so whether he thinks 9/11 was Israel is almost irrelevant IMO. Also the Iraq was was something of a Jewish false flag too and Gates fully admits that. Daryl's flaw is when he goes off for people being shills and you have to take it with a grain of salt. Great post you beat me to it.

[Rockclimber]

Gates is admitting the possibility of Israel and false flag right here, so whether he thinks 9/11 was Israel is almost irrelevant IMO. Also the Iraq was was something of a Jewish false flag too and Gates fully admits that. Daryl's flaw is when he goes off for people being shills and you have to take it with a grain of salt. Great post you beat me to it.

I think Gates is really coming around and I agree with you that that is DBSs one flaw.

This is agreat topic that's for sure but members here seem to avoid this topic. Not sure why, maybe I'm beating a dead horse. Iows not only do I beleive that our US politicians are compromised, but to seal the deal the jew/zio powers are using nuclear blackmail to have their way. IMHO.

[Ognir]

I think Gates is really coming around

To slow for Daryl  

[Helphand]

Sorry if I'm posting on the wrong article... mucho hurry... but if this is

http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/web/fmyw8s/uglytruth3JUNETourneyGatesDuff2.mp3

-- then it left me confused and suspicious. I need to listen to it again to start unweaving the texture of lies, info and disinfo and to construct what the motivation is - the preliminary and obvious one being that among others it's to deflect a post-Flotilla-piracy scenario backlash against Israel from US-based Jewry. Maybe someone can explain it all to me.

But first and foremost: Jeff Gates and Gordon Duff are Jews. I sussed Gates when DBS first aired him and I may be wrong, but I am sure as hell right on Duff. He ain't the junior partner in their little duette.

This is a material fact in this sort of discussion now and it should become standard practice to require DISCLOSURE of such status at the start of these discussions.  Even Makow generally says who is what at some point....

You don't need to listen very long to notice that Duff interrupts little Mark Glenn and basically takes control of the show and then at the end haughtily says he's off.

This was staged whether or not Mark Glenn knew it. And the comments idiots at their site are lapping it up.

[maz]

You don't need to listen very long to notice that Duff interrupts little Mark Glenn and basically takes control of the show and then at the end haughtily says he's off.

This was staged whether or not Mark Glenn knew it. And the comments idiots at their site are lapping it up.

You know I'm glad you brought that up because I was listening to that interruption thinking, this is odd because Mark Glenn runs his mouth and generally runs a tight show, but Duff was almost disrespectful in that sense.

I also noticed that Duff says "Israel" almost exactly the same way as Ostrovsky says it. Maybe that doesn't mean anything, but maybe you're on to something. It was quite an odd show so maybe I'll give it a second listen.

[Helphand]

OK I have replayed this broadcast and made quick summary notes as
below. To avoid thought contamination I have not looked at the
websites.

http://www.veteranstoday.com / http://www.criminalstate.com

Overall I remain suspicious of (i) motive and (ii) content principally
because

-- these two are I am sure Jews high-placed in the international
network of conspirators and in government/the military and symbiotic
with other members of the Elite i.e. their Shabbas Goyim;

--the dismissive and high-handed manner in which they (or at least Duff)
deal with Mark Glenn and take control of the direction of discussion on
the show;

-- DBS also had second thoughts on Gates after his first interview given
among other things the inconsistent presentation of his views on the identity
of the perpetrators of 911;

--Gates is a commonly adopted Jew name, presumably some Anglicisation of
a German hebe moniker. Duff = not had time to check but his breathless lisping
intonation and kinda whiney delivery are almost a self-parody and recall the
satirical Jew vocalisations that Alex Linder did on the VNN goyfire broadcasts;

--the list of members of their group is most interesting since it comprises
a number of ostensible Jews disproportionate as usual to their number in
the general population. And do not forget Pinay's observation in "The Plot
Against the Church":  "May the English take heed, for many Musulmans
who live in London, as well as in the entire Islamic world, are concealed
Jews."

• It is confirmation of the phenomenon of the crypto-Jew that so

many words in different languages exist to describe these people; for
example, 'Daggatun' of the Sahara; 'Donmeh' of Salonica and Turkey;
'Marranos' of Spain and Latin America; 'Shobatnik' in Russia...;

It's a difficult call - there may be much that is true/plausible in what they
say but there are certain parts which plainly are intended to cast slight/divert
blame, such as

--Duff saying near the start: "Israel has nothing to do with Jews ... it
exploits the Jews of the world... as much victims as anyone else... "
Currently unless someone can explain otherwise to me I take this as the
reason for the talk, it is to deflect the mounting reaction to Jewry for the
Gaza flotilla act of piracy and the Gaza slow genocide;

--the reference to Bush and Reagan (see below) which implies these Goyim
were the source of the policy and its relentless pursuers;

-- references to UK and USA government knowledge and involvement and the
steps to exonerate British PM are more mind washing to imply these entities
were following their own individual interests when this may not have been the
case at all, also to shift attention away from Israeli involvement; the infiltration
of government by the symbiotic controllers is so deeply rooted in these countries
that it is hard to believe they pursue any policy now for exclusively national interests;

--regarding Ahmadinedjad, Duff says the Iranians are sick of "this moron" and
of a "pack of Mullahs". He can't control his vitriol. (Again however having seen
photos of the little engineering PhD doing the 1st and 4th finger Devil sign
and the Daily Telegraph piece some months ago suggesting he had Jewish
inheritance who knows what's what  in this particular hall of mirrors...);

-- assuming the stuff about the nukes to be true, it may have been regarded as
sufficiently well known and expendable information as not to be a threat to
Israeli interests and a necessary price either to convey some message or
to estalish/enhance Duff/Gates's image as being "the good guys" with disinformation
on more material matters to follow in due course. Mossad's motto:
BY DECEPTION THY SHALT DO WAR.

         ---

After Mark Glenn's intro (or rather DURING it) Gordon Duff interrupts
and says the Veterans Group was established as an advocacy group some
years ago.
Editors of the publications hosted at the website include (name
spellings approximate and just my assumptions):

1) Gordon Duff,
2) Geoff Gates,
3) Col. James Hankey defence attach to Israel,
4) Eugene Khrushchev ("Khrushchev is a Jew and his real name
is Pearlmutter" [**]) - former 1st Secretary Soviet Embassy in Kabul,

Our "Out of Pakistan" Group (sic):
5) Admiral Sawari??? Chairman of the Pakistan Joint Chiefs of Staff,
6) General Begg, former head of Pakistan army,
7) Brigadier Asif Haroon Rajah, chief military strategist for Pakistan,
Dr Rahman psy-ops specialist for the Pakistan Government,
9) (Mark Glenn - also Alan Sabrovsky? Duff later confirms so)
10) Cal Noury represents royal families and tribal chiefs there


Duff continues:

The Veterans Group has strong relations with US army command structure
etc.
A crew built not to propagandise or make money but to access world
intelligence community at highest level.
= "quality intelligence"

[Interesting he should be saying "This isnt propoganda" rather than just
presenting his case and letting it rest on its merits!!]

They say a false flag (Muslims usual suspects) in the offing...

Per Gordon Duff: 12:45 approx:
Israel has nothing to do with Jews ... it exploits the Jews of the
world... as much victims as anyone else... we have to stick with
American values.

OK history recap on Israel's past says Duff:
At 13:20 he says boy/Dubya Bush and Reagan also loved using the terms
"Axis of Evil" / "Evildoer" [-- BUT THESE TERMS WERE CONCOCNTED BY A
JEW PRESIDENTIAL SPEECH WRITER!!!!]

Duff says USS Liberty was attacked by Israel who wanted to cover over
fact that 1967 war was a Pearl Harbour attack on Egypt and Syria in
order to seize land, lebensraum. Egypt and Syrian air forces destroyed
on ground, armies ineffectual.

Israel has spied against USA continually since its founding. Before
Israel there were the nuke Israel spies who were Zionists eg those who
passed nuke info to Stalin.

@16:10 in 1969 Ghadaffi had just taken over and hated Egypt and threw
in his lot with Israel but made anti Israel noises. His gas and poisons
were made with Israeli help. Guardian newspaper in UK last week [pre 3
June 2010] exposed South Africa/RSA and Israel links on eg  RSA getting
weapons despite apartheid embargoes. This meant

a) a germ/bio/chem warfare program organised between Israel and RSA
aided by Ghadaffi and the Shah of Iran, Soviet Russia, East Germany,
North Korea and Libya. Israel joined at hip to N Korea, RSA and
Ghadaffi. Rest have gone [sic]. Assassination weapons, agricultural
diseases etc flooded world.

b) 1975 Israel entered a program with RSA to manufacture nuclear
weapons. Duff says they hold docs confirming 10x uranium-235 bombs were
made in RSA by Israel. Armscore was the company. First nuke was
exploded Sept 22, 1979 in Indian Ocean and was detected by a US
satellite and identified. But info not allowed out owing to power. Hans
Blix went into RSA in 1990 -- apartheid ending, RSA Govt did not want
to give nukes to Mandela but wanted to give 9 remaining to USA - the US
got 6 of them, 3 shipped to Oman. Saddam Hussian was in Kuwait and it
was feared he would use WMDs. So UK decided to buy 3 of these nukes and
had them shipped to Oman on account of the 45 minutes' weapons warning
[scam] -- Margaret Thatcher signed. They fell into hands of 2 Israeli
arms merchants.
Since 1991 3x 18.2kton weapons missing - Israel has said to USA that
Saddam has them -- this being the stated reason USA went into Iraq.

Israel said nukes were loaded onto ambulances and driven to Syria and
Israel demanded that US attack Syria - but US detection equipment would
have found and US refused to act. Then around 2003 USA was told
Hezbollah had them in Lebanon and would transfer them to Haifa and
explode them.

If you wonder why USA army Corps of Engineers is building a wall around
Gaza and spending money for a nuke shield for Israel it is for these 3
tiny "imaginary" nukes but there are not any more as US detectors found
one was exploded in North Korea. Only 2 now left. [How did the nuke get
to N Korea if US Satellites can trace a pinpoint? See later for Duff's
observation regarding that.]

US is supporting a blockade to protect Israel from "imaginary" weapons
Israel itself has had for 18 years. Israel is saying when they get into
Gaza they will be smuggled into Israel and kill millions [@23:35 appx].
US and USA Govts were told these weapons were believed on the Turkish
ship which Israel seized on the Gaza flotilla recently ... present
danger justification  invoked. These nukes were in fact in Israel for
years and then turned up (Israel says 3 not the actual 2) Israel says,
on that ship. So USA not doing anything about the Israeli piracy and is
protecting Israel against imaginary nukes. Israel tries to hang the
weapons on Syria and Iran.

Nukes disappeared in 20' shipping containers in 1991.

Israel now being criticised for its piracy and not likely to blow over
this time.

USA being told its ports vulnerable to attack from nukes in 20'
shipping containers... implied threat.  USA et al. will lose Baltimore,
Houston, Rotterdam, Hamburg "unless we hang it on Israel" otherwise if
we do not get word out the Israelis will explode them...

Mark Glenn: if you don't play ball this will be what happens to you --
i.e. attack by nukes on USA.

Gates and Duff recently met some VIPs in Pakistan.

Geoff Gates: Israel has Middle East and beyond ambitions. Gates and the
Veterans group want to make more transparency so harder for Israel to
proceed.

Mark Glenn: posits: attack on flotilla. Turkey -- Erdogon 's stance --
Glenn reckons planners in AIPAC etc do not want to see Mid East rally
round Iran ...

[Duff interrupts saying:]

Israel has no better friend than Ahmadinedjad. Iran suffers him like
Kharzai in Afghan only by stolen election and Iranians are sick of
"this moron" and a "pack of Mullahs".

Geoff Gates: Ahmadinedjad is there to present what looks like a threat
to Israel when one is wanted.

Gordon Duff: Iran has little military capabilities. Airforce is 2
generations behind Israel. Israel and Iran have no ability to attack
each other over the long flight distance. 4% enriched now 20% enriched
uranium but still years and years from nuclear weapons. Iran has weak
navy.

Geoff Gates: Israel is master mythmaker. He and Duff were in Pakistan
to explain how Pakistan was being prepped as next plausible evil doer.
E.g. "crotch bomb sizzler" [ @35 appx]. Likewise Times Square bomber.
Creating storyline/maintaining narrative.

Gordon Duff: when in Pakistan they were told Osama Bin Laden died
December 15, 2001. US never found a training camp in Afghanistan and no
foreign fighters till after USA arrived there. Retinue of Bin Laden was
30 people who were mujahideen who worked for the CIA. He says US killed
Bin Laden to shut him up not because he was involved in 911.

[exchange of hyperboles Glenn/Tourney]

James Scott's book "Attack on the Liberty" talks of planes having nukes
ready to drop on Cairo. [@17:40]

Gordon Duff: the group gets leaks and disinfo etc  and they have been
told last week that Black Hawk Down operationwas an attempt to recover
nukes lost in a B52 mishap off Somali coast. He knows Somali people in
Somali Government who cannot verify this.

Why a flood of stories about nukes everywhere? Only ones they really
know exist are the ones Israel / RSA built. It is all about the number
-- holocaust discussions all about 6 mio -- if the Jews could find 6
mio Palestinians they would kill them!

It's the branding of the number. "This is the Geoff Gates deception"
[wtf does he mean by that throwaway?!? @42:34 appx]  We will get
stories about missing nukes. This is the deception. Obama recently
thanked RSA for stopping its nuke program and destroying missiles. USA
had never acknowledged that RSA had a program before! Nothing said
about Israel busting RSA sanctions and being punished.  

Number 6 comes up all the time: 6 weapons shipped; 6 weapons destroyed;
6 weapons built. Look up the 1979 explosion -- that was 7 not 6. What
is never brought up is the number 10 -- this is the great key to
everything. Ten were built and three were missing. Israel had by 1985
50 plutonium nukes now it has 200-600 nukes some small but not known.
"I respect people deceiving people if they had legitimate security
interests."  But the 3 nukes are very different -- a nuke built at
Demona reactor, US could tell where it came from and that Israel did
it., the RSA nukes were branded as missing in the hands of terrorist
and they can be exploded. Israel has maintained plausible deniability.
They have 2 nukes they can use in a false flag.

Mark Glenn: how do we recognise the signatre of a Israel nuke if it
explodes?

Gordon Duff: we can recognise it. Can pick up subatomic particles
signature [@12:30 appx:] It is impossible to move a nuclear weapon
anywhere without our detecting it. Since 1960s satellites had
capability and since enhanced.

Mark Glenn: if Israel exploded a nuke in USA who in USA Congress would
stand up and blame Israel?

Gordon Duff: this is why they are branding those bombs as being in
Israel's possession as do (more openly) the UK security services.
[@49 appx] UK's "Nuclear Explosions Act" passed to subject to
indefinite detention without trial any British National tied in any way
to a nuke explosion anywhere in world -- passed on account of belief
that British may have been involved in misplacing 3 nukes and hiding
that fact.

House of Lords were considering a change to this law and impose a
statute of limitations it appears for a former PM. Director of MI5
resigned her office [Manningham Buller?] testified to Parliament in
order to block passing of that amending law.

Duff goes on to ask why in 1967 Admiral Sidney McCain allowed Israel to
kill US citizens and hide this. Soviet Union relations with UAE -- what
game theory did Israel apply?

Geoff Gates: President Johnson was being serviced by Mathilde
Kremm/Creme formerly married to Irgun operative Arthur Kremm/Creme [***] who
was Chairman of finance committee of Democrat Party and was largest
fund raiser for Democrats and she was also ex-Irgun. Wonderful pre-
staging and making sure everyone was compromised beforehand.
This land grab provoked all in region which set stage for current
travails -- how long does it take for world community to get angry with
USA to put USA in danger? He hopes US general chiefs of staff are now
awake to need of protecting the US itself.

Mainstream media has affected ability of citizens to think together.
Very dangerous time for democracy per Gates [isn't the US a
Constitutional Republic anymore? Well maybe not according to the
Congressional Record of June 1940 -- see Disinfo Section in Inner
Sanctum.]

Gordon Duff makes his excuses and leaves Mark Glenn dangling over the
music.

-----------------

• Maurice Pinay: "The Plot Against the Church" (1962).  

[**] Part 1:The Secret Driving Force of Communism.
Chapter 3: The Head of Communism.

...
"Nikolaus Salomon Khrushchev, present  chief (1963) of the
Soviet Communist party, member of the Politburo since 1939,
i.e. since the year when Malenkov was chosen member of the
Orgburo. He is the brother of Madame Malenkov, i.e. of the
Jewess Pearlmutter. Khrushchev is a Jew and his real name
is Pearlmutter. Also, the present wife of Khrushchev, Nina,
as well as the wives of Mikoyan, Voroshilov, Molotov, etc.,
are Jewesses.


Part Four: The Jewish Fifth Column in the Clergy.
Chapter Twenty-Four: Jewish infiltration in the clergy
...
"The Jewish Encyclopaedia which we mentioned cites examples under
the word "criptojudios" (= Christians who secretly admit to Judaism):

This phenomenon (criptojudaismo) is still not very old. It appeared in 1838,
when the Shah of Persia compelled the Jewish community of Meshed to
admit to Islam. Several hundred Jews then formed a community, which
was known under the name Dja-did-ul-Islam. The new Musulmans seemingly
followed the Mohammedan rites and undertook the usual pilgrimages to
Mecca. In secret, however, they practised the religious customs of their
forefathers. The members of the community of Dja-did-ullslam held religious
gatherings in underground synagogues, circumcised their sons, observed
the Sabbath, respected the laws of diet and survived the danger to which
they exposed themselves. However, later many of them left Meshed and
founded two settlements of the sect in Herat, Afghanistan, Merv and
Samarkand, Turkestan, Bombay, Jerusalem and even in Europe
(London). Through emigration their number in Meshed grew to 3000 and in
Jerusalem there were 500 believers. The traveller and orientalist Walter
Fischel described the customs and traditions of Dja-did-ul-Islam in his work
"A Swindler" (gauner = swindler, rogue, gypsy) in Persia (in Hebrew,
1930).240 May the English take heed, for many Musulmans who live in
London, as well as in the entire Islamic world, are concealed Jews."

[***] A bit off-topic for this piece but the name pronounced "Kremm" brings
to mind the acolyte of Maitreya, Bejamin Creme, who is described as a
Scottish artist but whose appearance (I have seen him in the flesh) and
agenda say Jew in spades.

[superzebra]

i think gordon duff and jeff gates are honest people in the truth movment.
gordon duff is not jewish propganda.
the nuclear blackmail story is true.

[Helphand]

//i%20think%20gordon%20duff%20and%20jeff%20gates%20are%20honest%20people%20in%20the%20truth%20movment.

Any reasons? Just in search of enlightenment.

[Rockclimber]

i think gordon duff and jeff gates are honest people in the truth movment.
gordon duff is not jewish propganda.
the nuclear blackmail story is true.

I don't necessarily know who to trust but I just wanted to point out the nuclear blackmail aspect of the interview. It's not something to be taken lightly imho. I believe it's one of the many elements of control these monsters have over other nations.

[Helphand]

Again the only conclusion I have on this one is it's a difficult one to call
but I remain sceptical. Call it intuition only - but intuition isn't valueless
since it's only the unconscious awareness of small meaningfully connected details.

Duff produced a fog of wordsmithing for 50 minutes, heavily orchestrated, to
communicate one principal "fact" which is that some small nukes went
missing and Israel claims from time to time that these have fallen into the
hands of its enemies in order to place leverage on the USA to be its proxy
and fight another war for Israel. Well what does that add to the existing state of
knowledge in which many people believe that Israel's enemies have/soon will
have nukes and be a threat justifying US anticipatory action? Damn all.

The goods delivered are just not that valuable.

Gates was noticeably sidelined as a less articulate distraction and for occasional
corroboration of his master's voice.

I therefore rank this particular production in Rafiq's category of 90% fact,
10%

• disinfo as a warming up for more substantial disinfo later. After all,

Alex Jones has effectively been outed so a more heavily industrial version now
needs to be put in place to placate the noisily lowing Goyim.
Rafiq also understands the idea that the Jewish attack comes in waves and when
they are found out they ostensibly repent and desist but in reality lie low for
a bit and re-group and re-strategise. Then it starts up again. [**]
This is also echoed in Spiridovich, who said in the first edition of the
Gentiles' Review in 1923:
"As Nietsche wrote, the "Hidden Hand" is over-cautious, as soon as it
perceives the Gentiles become aware of its plot, it adjourns its "devil's
lust." "

No doubt time will tell.

• TFC June 20, 2010 @23:27 appx.

[**] TFC June 20, 2010 @49:38 appx.

[Helphand]

Has time told? Well, if you're feeling charitable, maybe not *quite* yet, but I feel this is pretty damn material:

TFC - Sunday 19 September, 2010 - DBS / Gordon Duff

http://iamthewitness.com/audio/TFC.SMITH.DUFF.19.9.10.mp3

Duff @13:25: "My family's half-Jewish; on Veterans Today at least 5 of our staff writers and 2 of our editors are Jews; we have sister publications and about half of the writers are Israeli citizens that are sick of their own country."

I'm not sure what he means by "my family's half-Jewish" instead of, say, "I'm half-Jewish...".

But I think my original suspicions were justified. This guy (and Gates also) rank very highly as potential Sayanim. KOL NIDRE!

Why the sudden TFC / TiU love-feast with Duff?

I noticed on Daryl's show referenced above that Duff was all sweetness and light, near the end lots of personal reminiscence and chummy-chummy glad-handing. Quite a different tone from the hissing snake that bit Mark Glenn.

I think now that Duff is VERY SUSPECT.

This requires some explanation.

Some other Duff-contaminated threads picked at random:

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11649
Mark Glenn/Jeff Gates: Loose nukes - Israel, South Africa, and False Flag Deception


http://www.theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=11397&start=30
live from ship to gaza....israeli military on the way..

[Fester]

HH, GREAT work again.  DBS said that he had a serious disagreement with Gates in an email exchange.  Gates apparently was willing to be more dismissive in private than in public is how I read it.  Does DBS hang here at all?  Be nice to get those emails  :wave:

[Panoptimist]

Yeah I don't know about Duff or VT either. Now that you put this up I feel shitty actually.