There's a war on for the Truth!

[The Populist]

I just posted an essay on my site about controlled dissent in the 9/11 truth movement.
http://thepopulist.net/?p=2619
I tried to paste it into this forum post, but none of the photos or videos would show up just HTML.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Wow! Great post ThePopulist.  May I call you "The"?

You have done a great summary of this topic.  You should send this to DBS.   He talks about this stuff a lot.

[The Populist]

Who's DBS?

[Wimpy]

Daryl Bradford Smith

http://www.iamthewitness.com/index.html

[The Populist]

Doh! I'm linked up to Iamthewitness. I just didn't know his full name or initials.

[maz]

The funny thing about that whole "Israeli art students" thing from Elinoff was that from what I remember, the student's weren't even Israeli, they were just Jews from different parts of Europe. So in essence he just linked them to 9/11 because they were Jews and that makes him guilty of doing what he charged you of doing. They might have perpetrated a criminal act in the WTC, but he provided no information that they had anything to do with 9/11. It was just disinformation IMO.

[The Populist]

I couldn't believe it when I stumbled upon that interview. He admits that they are "Israeli assets", then tells this story about how they are in israel but opposed to the regime. Yeah right. I think Jon Elinoff is pretty much destroyed.

[The Populist]

I've tried to post it here a couple of times. I can't get the photos and video to display. If someone can tell me how to do that I'll post the whole thing here.

[VoltaXebec]

Stick the utube link between 0and[/youtube]

i.e. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQxuvBUdhrE

Your photos are attachments, find the original source of the jpg and stick it between

You may want to upload ur images to a photosharing site.

[The Populist]

I'm on it. I've got a tele-call conference tonight so I'll probably post it tomorrow.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

I just posted an essay on my site about controlled dissent in the 9/11 truth movement.
http://thepopulist.net/?p=2619
I tried to paste it into this forum post, but none of the photos or videos would show up just HTML.

Good article. I agree with everything except the no-planes stuff. I'm 100% sure that planes were flown into the twin towers. They wouldn't risk demo'ing 2 skyscrapers without flying anything into them since that was the excuse for their collapse. It just defies logic imho.

Yeah this Jew Jon Elinoff, Jon Gold and other Jew "truther"personalities are really, really obvious Jew subversives looking to steer things away from "Jew World Order". Unsurprisingly they promote this "multicultural melting-pot NWO" nonsense or the "Vatican/Jesuit NWO" fairy tale or pretty much anything that excludes the tribe that they belong to. This neurotically insane Jew -- Jonathan Elinoff -- is just so obvious is his shillery. His simultaneous and VICIOUS denunciation of "missing links", "holocaust deniers", and "Jew World Order" believers pretty much tells you all you need to know about him -- he's a satanic Jewish infiltrator and complete control freak/subversive who maligns anybody who has figured out the NWO is Jewish. These clowns have passively accepted the "Israeli" connection to 9/11 -- after denying/ignoring it for years -- but this is just the snake simply shedding its skin.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Here are a few funny links.

Kosher "truther" circle jerk
http://www.truthaction.org/forum/viewto ... sc&start=0

Jon Gold wants his mommy
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showpo ... ostcount=1

[The Populist]

I agree that something hit the towers, but I do not think they were airliners. Show me a shred of physical evidence of any of the alleged hijacked planes on 9/11, debunk SeptemberClues, and I'll be a plane-hugger again. Until then, I'm a no-planer.

That kosher circle-jerk link was awesome. Caught em plotting subterfuge.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

I agree that something hit the towers, but I do not think they were airliners. Show me a shred of physical evidence of any of the alleged hijacked planes on 9/11, debunk SeptemberClues, and I'll be a plane-hugger again. Until then, I'm a no-planer.

September clues has been debunked many times. The maker of September clues not only says that the planes were fake, he also claims that the tower collapses were cgi and that the 9/11 victims are not real people. He's completely insane and is one step short of saying space aliens did 9/11. Just really really bad disinfo.

Here's a video you should take a look at.
[youtube:1jfj65dc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IghzcsADklw[/youtube]1jfj65dc]

[The Populist]

Simonshack claims that the collapse of the towers was cgi. I disagree with that. He has stated that NO ONE died on 9/11. I disagree with that as well.

You show a video of Jason bermas critiqueing SeptemberClues? This debunker vid is a joke. The nose out shot was a LIVE shot, (orseventeen seconds after missile impact). There is no "other angle", because it was live there was no other camera there. They are showing the nose out shot, compared to the "amatuer" video, which was brought to the studios later.

The Naudet brothers mysteriously dissappeared after catching both airplanes striking the towers and recording the building collapses.

We could go on an on about this.

The vicsim report and other videos such as 9/11 actors cast doubt on everyone involved in 9/11.

[The Populist]

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[/youtube]http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=vI3ZpLuz3ts&fmt=6[/youtube]

[VoltaXebec]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Then add the codes at the end e.g. qbYAV5fCGiM

Select each line individually and hit the youtube button.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Simonshack claims that the collapse of the towers was cgi. I disagree with that. He has stated that NO ONE died on 9/11. I disagree with that as well.

You show a video of Jason bermas critiqueing SeptemberClues? This debunker vid is a joke. The nose out shot was a LIVE shot, (orseventeen seconds after missile impact). There is no "other angle", because it was live there was no other camera there. They are showing the nose out shot, compared to the "amatuer" video, which was brought to the studios later.

The Naudet brothers mysteriously dissappeared after catching both airplanes striking the towers and recording the building collapses.

We could go on an on about this.

The vicsim report and other videos such as 9/11 actors cast doubt on everyone involved in 9/11.

The maker of September Clues -- Simon Shack -- has some dangerously mentally ill beliefs. He is 1000% disinformation. His video has been debunked a dozen times and much of the "anomalies" he points out are perfectly natural video compression/rendering errors, or he just completely misinterprets them and comes to a ridiculous conclusion that all the videos must have been faked. There are about 45+ amateur videos all showing a plane and all coinciding with one another and all showing that mysteriously flash just before impact. Amateurs shot videos from across the Hudson river where no one could have gotten to them to confiscate & then fake their videos. There were hundreds of eye witnesses to planes, photographic evidence, plane parts found, and eye-witnesses to the recovery of several of the black boxes which the FBI claims they never found because they contain damaging evidence. Not to mention two plane shaped impact holes in the buildings which could not have been produced by anything other than a plane hitting them. Just look at all the leaders of the "no-planes" movement they're all ex-Government or Crack Addicts: Nico Haupt who is a meth addict, Morgan Reynolds a former Bush Administation official, David Shaylor former MI-5 officer (whom also claims to be God and is now a drag-queen), and then this idiot Simon Shack who is probably another drug addict.

It should be noted that you'll see a lot of these no-evidence theories start to overlap. In the case of the no-planers, many of them also believe that space weapons were beamed into the towers or something or other. They also tend to go for the "Jesuits/Vatican NWO" nonsense as well. Why do they cling to all the batshit theories all at once? I'm curious to know.

[Christopher Marlowe]

I don't know if ALL the videos on 9/11 were fake, but the Hezarkhani CNN video is for sure a fake. No question. Fake. CGI plane defies physics and melts into the building.
Video is shot from vantage point that cannot be duplicated. Magic.
Hezarkhani is a diamond merchant in LA who says his lawyer told him not to say where he shot his video.
That's a fake video shown on CNN and passed off as real. Why?

Here's an interesting site talking about the fakes. Many fakes.
http://www.911research.dsl.pipex.com/

[The Populist]

I agree that Simonshack has some wonky ideas, and after having a brief correspondence with him, I think he's a dick. However, I am still convinced that no planes hit the towers. Again, where is the physical evidence of those alleged planes?

As for the video debunking, Simonshack does an even better job destroying the amateur videos in his other series which I tried to post here. And I'm just not going to re-hash every detail here.

By the way, I just received a friend request from Jon Elinoff on facebook. I am certain he knows who I am because I've posted this essay all over the place there. Should I friend this guy and post our correspondence here?

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

By the way, I just received a friend request from Jon Elinoff on facebook. I am certain he knows who I am because I've posted this essay all over the place there. Should I friend this guy and post our correspondence here?

lol, the guy is relentless. I exchanged a few emails with him recently and he kept insisting we talk on the phone, but I wasn't falling for the "i just want to get your number so I can find out who you are" trick. I gave him my skype, he refused to add me, so obviously he wanted my exact details and wasn't just looking to "talk". Don't trust this guy AT ALL. Remember he threatened to call the cops on me when I originally posted the research about him on this forum and accused me of "hate crimes", so he obviously supports the ADL-sponsored anti-Free speech hate crimes bill and other freedom destroying subversive Jew legislation. Does that smell of "truth seeker" to you, someone who tries to shield himself from criticism with feign threats about hate crimes? He is no "honest broker" just looking for the truth. His actions and antics give him away quite openly.

[The Populist]

Thanks for that info. I blocked Elinoff. You're alright Monkey, even though you're a plane-hugger.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Thanks for that info. I blocked Elinoff.

no, don't. Just see what he says first... it might be amusing.  

[The Populist]

I already blocked him, as soon as I saw your post. Your new video is excellent.