Wishing I was was Jewish

[ProZionist]

I don't feel that I can convert, because I am not really studious, deligent or intelligent enough. I was reading the Shulchan Aruch -- Code of Jewish Law -- yesterday, by H.E. Goldin, and I really felt impossibly inferior, even though I know that few Jews live up to the precepts and rules layed out in it, or the Talmud or the Torah.

I feel the same way when reading the Torah or other parts of the Bible. I know that gentiles are allowed to be atheist, and that the Noahide Laws say that first you are not supposed to put any idols before God, and perhaps I have been in danger of actually idolizing Jews, or at least their works.

I used to love (adore) Stanley Kubrick's movies, and I like Steven Spielberg's a lot, and Woody Allen's, and a lot. As a kid I loved Tim Burton and Beetlejuice and it seems like a lot of Jewish things.

I think a good place to start in wondering about the world of gentiles and Jew is Werner Herzog's INVINCIBLE. That shows a good side of Judaism (or the real side, I mean), and I also like Harmony Korine's works very much.

I don't know what needs to be done about Islam, other than that it should not be allowed to have any power. Christians likewise, and atheists and other goys, should not be allowed to have power.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

You're aware that Jews did 9/11 right?

[Ognir]

[superzebra]

     

jews are not welcomed because you are virus...worse than hiv....

[Tomas O'Crohan]

Did you notice that the jew declared that he couldn't "convert" because he wasn't intelligent enough? Jew, WE can't convert because we're not pathological enough. We just don't have the love of evil you jews have. We're also going to do our best to contain and eliminate your evil, Inshallah, as the Arab Muslims say, evidencing great humility.

[ProZionist]

You're aware that Jews did 9/11 right?

I've looked into 9/11 and see little evidence any Jews (or Israel) were involved besides perhaps Larry Silverstein or the dancing Israelis, but that isn't enough to indict a whole country or its intelligence service (the Mossad).

[GordZilla]

You're aware that Jews did 9/11 right?

I've looked into 9/11 and see little evidence any Jews (or Israel) were involved besides perhaps Larry Silverstein or the dancing Israelis, but that isn't enough to indict a whole country or its intelligence service (the Mossad).

You looked?   LOL!!  Must have been for the whole of 5 minutes or your just that blind and/or stupid.

 Here look here;
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367

If you can make a good argument against these points than please do, if not then please kindly piss off.

[ProZionist]

You're aware that Jews did 9/11 right?

I've looked into 9/11 and see little evidence any Jews (or Israel) were involved besides perhaps Larry Silverstein or the dancing Israelis, but that isn't enough to indict a whole country or its intelligence service (the Mossad).

You looked?   LOL!!  Must have been for the whole of 5 minutes or your just that blind and/or stupid.

 Here look here;
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367

If you can make a good argument against these points than please do, if not then please kindly piss off.

I've seen that document before. It does not provide any real evidence that Israelis were behind 9/11; that is, that they themselves carried out the attacks, or were somehow controlling the Arabs that did, etc.

Some of what it says (have not read it all recently) seems to be made up "rumor-like" reports, such as this one that it links to: http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11 ... metery.htm Notice that it does not say who the man is that overheard the reports, nor who it was that he was overhearing, nor who wrote the article. This is easily the sort of "evidence" that would be dismissed in any reasonable court.

The Odigo report isn't convincing either, because it may have been that someone knew someone else who knew the hijackers and word spread. Naturally it is to be assumed that Israeli Jews would hear of this faster than non-Israelis because they live in the midst of the Middle East, surrounded by Arabs and terrorists.

It then goes on to say, "therefore only three Israelis died at the WTC on 9/11. An astonishing feat. We're talking about 'Israelis' here, not 'American Jews'. Many Jews died in the wtc on 9/11." This quote is problematic for two reasons: 1, you would not expect many Israeli Jews to be in the American WTC towers anyway (so saying "only 3" makes me think, "really? there was that many?") and 2, if many Jews died on 9/11 this was evidence that Jews WEREN'T behind 9/11.

The next subject in the article links to here http://www.historycommons.org/entity.js ... hipping_co. but I cannot click on any of the links to substantiate the claims that Zim shipping "mysterious" left WTC shortly before the attacks. (When I try to click on the links they show a circle with a line through it).

Still  all of this is beside the point, because even if Israel did attack us on 9.11 I would still want to be Jewish because I find the religion holy and sound, and Israel may have been attacking us for needs of survival.

I don't believe they attacked us, however.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Tell us what you have learned about Judaism and Jewishism... do you speak Yiddish or Hebrew... If Goyim didn't exist, do you think there would still be idiot Jews creating Nuclear bombs or creating Mustard Gas? Would Jewish Terrorism still exist?

 Basically, if there wasn't any Goyim, would Jews and their rabbis have to create them? And continue to loan them money  via usurious scams like most Jews?
 

[ProZionist]

I don't speak Yiddish or Hebrew, although I do like Yiddish better as a language, interestingly enough, and kind of wish it were spoken more.

Well, if goyim did not exist... would they still have a need to defend themselves? Probably not. But most goyim do not want to destroy the Jews, and even most antisemites do not seem to actually want to harm the Jews (thank God).

So I don't think Jews would "create" non-Jews if they somehow did not exist any more. How would they create them? By genetic engineering or something?

It is OK to be a non-Jew. Nothing wrong or shameful about it. Non-Jews in general are the most colorful and creative-minded people in the world because they are less restrained by laws to do as they please.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

if many Jews died on 9/11 this was evidence that Jews WEREN'T behind 9/11.

I guess it couldn't have been Muslims since there were also Muslims killed in the attack.  :eh:

They did everything they could to warn the Jews, but ultimately decided that killing a few "little Jews" would be a sacrifice they're willing to make "for the good of Israel", "for the good of the Jewish people", etc. 9/11 was a Jew World Order wet-dream and will be used as justification for Goy vs Goy wars for 20 years following its occurrence. Netanyahu admits openly that it was a "good thing" for Israel.    

[Wimpy]

Oh, you're being a goober. :lol:

[Christopher Marlowe]

I don't know where to begin with this guy. He sounds like he desperately wants to get a job emptying spittoons in a Jewish bar, so that he can take little sips on the sly.

I don't feel that I can convert, because I am not really studious, deligent or intelligent enough.

You are definitely not "deligent" enough.  
But don't lose heart. All you need is to download that little megaphone and do what it tells you to do. That mostly means to lie, which means that you have to give away your soul.

I was reading the Shulchan Aruch -- Code of Jewish Law -- yesterday, by H.E. Goldin

Why? Why would you do that? Have you read: "Kenmore Side by Side Refrigerator Use & Care Guide
for Kenmore 10656824603 Refrigerator"?

For every tree is known by its fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns; nor from a bramble bush do they gather the grape.

Let's see what fruit has come from the Jews: Usury, War, Porn, Lies.
I'm no botanist, but Jewish religious literature seems to be a bramble bush.  You're really much better off with: "Kenmore Side by Side Refrigerator Use & Care Guide for Kenmore 10656824603 Refrigerator"?  Spoiler Alert: It tells you how to fix the icemaker.  
 

and I really felt impossibly inferior, even though I know that few Jews live up to the precepts and rules layed out in it, or the Talmud or the Torah.

This one makes me wonder if you are a shill because it is logically inconsistent.  
First of all, what is "impossibly inferior"? Is that so inferior that you are actually superior? Or does "impossibly inferior" mean that you are a shill because you are trying just a little too hard to kiss Jewish ass?
Secondly, if you are cognizant of the fact that "few Jews live up to the precepts and rules", then how can you feel [impossibly] inferior to them? That is what makes me think you are a shill.  

I know that gentiles are allowed to be atheist, and that the Noahide Laws say that first you are not supposed to put any idols before God

allowed? By whom? Noahide laws? The whole principle of those laws is insulting: as if God made a lesser set of laws for the lesser people. If rabbi schneerson wasn't currently burning in Hell, I would like to tell him where to put those laws.  

and perhaps I have been in danger of actually idolizing Jews, or at least their works.

Yeah.  I feel the same way when I watch episodes of "Punky Brewster" or "Hogan's Heroes". I go from idolizing Jews, to feeling impossibly unworthy, to wanting to clean their spittoons.  

I don't know what needs to be done about Islam, other than that it should not be allowed to have any power. Christians likewise, and atheists and other goys, should not be allowed to have power.

Is this person "taking the piss", or what?

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

I don't believe they attacked us, however.

But this is interesting "ProZionist", you seem to be skeptical and nitpicky, requiring extraordinary levels of evidence to believe that Jews did it, yet at the same time don't require ANY evidence at all to unashamedly affirm your belief in the official fairy tale that Muslims did it (because such evidence does not exist). Is this the Jewish "double standard" I've been hearing about?
 

[ProZionist]

I don't know where to begin with this guy. He sounds like he desperately wants to get a job emptying spittoons in a Jewish bar, so that he can take little sips on the sly.

I don't feel that I can convert, because I am not really studious, deligent or intelligent enough.

You are definitely not "deligent" enough.  
But don't lose heart. All you need is to download that little megaphone and do what it tells you to do. That mostly means to lie, which means that you have to give away your soul.

I was reading the Shulchan Aruch -- Code of Jewish Law -- yesterday, by H.E. Goldin

Why? Why would you do that? Have you read: "Kenmore Side by Side Refrigerator Use & Care Guide
for Kenmore 10656824603 Refrigerator"?

For every tree is known by its fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns; nor from a bramble bush do they gather the grape.

Let's see what fruit has come from the Jews: Usury, War, Porn, Lies.
I'm no botanist, but Jewish religious literature seems to be a bramble bush.  You're really much better off with: "Kenmore Side by Side Refrigerator Use & Care Guide for Kenmore 10656824603 Refrigerator"?  Spoiler Alert: It tells you how to fix the icemaker.  
 

and I really felt impossibly inferior, even though I know that few Jews live up to the precepts and rules layed out in it, or the Talmud or the Torah.

This one makes me wonder if you are a shill because it is logically inconsistent.  
First of all, what is "impossibly inferior"? Is that so inferior that you are actually superior? Or does "impossibly inferior" mean that you are a shill because you are trying just a little too hard to kiss Jewish ass?
Secondly, if you are cognizant of the fact that "few Jews live up to the precepts and rules", then how can you feel [impossibly] inferior to them? That is what makes me think you are a shill.  

I know that gentiles are allowed to be atheist, and that the Noahide Laws say that first you are not supposed to put any idols before God

allowed? By whom? Noahide laws? The whole principle of those laws is insulting: as if God made a lesser set of laws for the lesser people. If rabbi schneerson wasn't currently burning in Hell, I would like to tell him where to put those laws.  

and perhaps I have been in danger of actually idolizing Jews, or at least their works.

Yeah.  I feel the same way when I watch episodes of "Punky Brewster" or "Hogan's Heroes". I go from idolizing Jews, to feeling impossibly unworthy, to wanting to clean their spittoons.  

I don't know what needs to be done about Islam, other than that it should not be allowed to have any power. Christians likewise, and atheists and other goys, should not be allowed to have power.

Is this person "taking the piss", or what?

No, I have no desire to worship Jews or Jewish things. I was reading the Code of Jewish Law because I was curious of how to be a Jew.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

I don't believe they attacked us, however.

But this is interesting "ProZionist", you seem to be skeptical and nitpicky, requiring extraordinary levels of evidence to believe that Jews did it, yet at the same time don't require ANY evidence at all to unashamedly affirm your belief in the official fairy tale that Muslims did it (because such evidence does not exist). Is this the Jewish "double standard" I've been hearing about?
 

Are you gonna respond to this observation Mr. Jew-wannabe?

Why do you require extraordinary evidence for the "Jews did it" meme yet unquestionably accept flimsy, garbagy, fabricated bullshit evidence for the "Muslims did it" meme? It's because your a Jew and this is exactly why we don't respect your ilk.

You do what typical "debunkers" do --  use straw-man arguments. You'll dig through our evidence and locate the weakest point in our argument, assert it as our strongest point and argue with that -- while ignoring all of the strong points that cannot be refuted or "spun" and made obscure by smart ass Jew-rhetoric.

[ProZionist]

I don't believe they attacked us, however.

But this is interesting "ProZionist", you seem to be skeptical and nitpicky, requiring extraordinary levels of evidence to believe that Jews did it, yet at the same time don't require ANY evidence at all to unashamedly affirm your belief in the official fairy tale that Muslims did it (because such evidence does not exist). Is this the Jewish "double standard" I've been hearing about?
 

Are you gonna respond to this observation Mr. Jew-wannabe?

Why do you require extraordinary evidence for the "Jews did it" meme yet unquestionably accept flimsy, garbagy, fabricated bullshit evidence for the "Muslims did it" meme? It's because your a Jew and this is exactly why we don't respect your ilk.

You do what typical "debunkers" do --  use straw-man arguments. You'll dig through our evidence and locate the weakest point in our argument, assert it as our strongest point and argue with that -- while ignoring all of the strong points that cannot be refuted or "spun" and made obscure by smart ass Jew-rhetoric.

I haven't used any straw-man arguments.

I believe Muslims attacked us on 9/11 because all branches of government and the media are in agreement with this. I don't have evidence to the contrary.

I know about Building 7 and other curious incidents that day, such as there being no plane wreckage outside of the Pentagon, but this doesn't mean Muslims DIDN'T do it, or that Jews did. It points, perhaps, to suspicion that can be laid on the U.S. government, but it is a fact that thousands and thousands of Muslims throughout the Middle East consider us their enemy and want us dead.

And they want Israel dead, too.

Also it does not make sense that I am being accused of being  Jew when the very title of this thread is that I wish I wasn't gentile.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

I haven't used any straw-man arguments.

Yes you have, you sought out the few things in my piece that you thought you could come up with some sort of argument against and ignored the rest because you cannot refute it.

I believe Muslims attacked us on 9/11 because all branches of government and the media are in agreement with this. I don't have evidence to the contrary.

I know about Building 7 and other curious incidents that day, such as there being no plane wreckage outside of the Pentagon, but this doesn't mean Muslims DIDN'T do it, or that Jews did. It points, perhaps, to suspicion that can be laid on the U.S. government, but it is a fact that thousands and thousands of Muslims throughout the Middle East consider us their enemy and want us dead.

And they want Israel dead, too.

Also it does not make sense that I am being accused of being  Jew when the very title of this thread is that I wish I wasn't gentile.

I don't believe that you actually believe what you're saying here. This is a bunch of fucking nonsense. You say "Muslims did it & the U.S. government did it" in the same breath.  

I think ur just fucking with us here like a typical  

[ProZionist]

I responded to a few things from the article that were near the top. In other words I went by order.

The topic of the thread isn't Jews Did 9/11, though, it is "I wish I was Jewish," by ProZionist.

A part of me wishes I was comfortable with being gentile -- that is, wishing there were enough greatness among gentiles to want to continue to be a part of it. Instead I do see inferiority and barbarism among us.

Someone here brought up porn. Well, most of the people in porn are gentiles, and they're almost always quite happy in the porn. I've seen plenty of it, and they're always smiling and happy and enjoying their orgasms and carefree sex and nudity.

[VoltaXebec]

Fuck off you sick jew CUNT!!

[kolnidre]

Someone here brought up porn. Well, most of the people in porn are gentiles, and they're almost always quite happy in the porn. I've seen plenty of it, and they're always smiling and happy and enjoying their orgasms and carefree sex and nudity.

OK, that settles it. Most of the prime positions in porn are held by Jews. Filth like Ron Jeremy, who looks like a fat hedgehog, and Al Goldstein, who said "The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don't believe in authoritarianism."  The rest of your facetious comment marks you as a   troll.

[ProZionist]

No, most of the people in porn, especially Internet porn, are gentiles. The "Jews in porn" cliche was more true in the 70s and 80s.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

PorkZionist,

Would you give up your family's home in Israel to a Palestinian family? Who used to live there.

Also, what if the Goyim just stole all the Jew money around the world and called it all a "fair and square" settlement ?  Might happen you know...  

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

No, most of the people in porn, especially Internet porn, are gentiles. The "Jews in porn" cliche was more true in the 70s and 80s.

Just like Communism...

[ProZionist]

Doesn't anybody here wish they were Jewish?

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

What would exactly be in their "heads" or "wish" for that matter?

[ProZionist]

I'm not sure. I've never been certain why I want to be Jewish, although a friend recently made fun of me for this, asking if I had converted yet and if I was "cool" now.

I guess I just felt it was the truth and it's more like I felt obligated to convert, and it doesn't have to do with a social desire to meet like-minded folk.

On the other hand I know that it is perfectly OK to stay gentile.

[abduLMaria]

wish i was Jewish - uh, no.

wish i had been educated about Zionism as a youngster - before entering the corporate world - DEFINITELY.

i think that's one of the biggest favors you can do for a young person - make sure they have "the basics" by the time they graduate from high-school.

[Anonymous]

Why is anyone wasting their time with this obvious trolling idiot?

Just writing this I've wasted about 3 seconds.


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