A Shander Fer De Goyim

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Warning Typical Jew Scam "Apologia" below... still it all highlights the Yiddish term and it's meaning for the world... -- CSR
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20 December, 2008
A Shander Fer De Goyim


It was a shock and I Googled to find out why there would be this sudden interest. I found many Internet portals with posted articles about Ivar Kreuger ("The Match King, the biggest swindler of all time. Virtually all of the keyword inquiries bringing people to the post used keywords such as "Ivar Kreuger jew" and "Madoff Kreuger jew" etc.

It does not take a brain surgeon to figure out that this was all about trying to stereotype an ethnic group as having a pre-disposition to be money-loving swindlers (i.e., Jews).When I went to look at that portion of the blog, I was upset to find that whole sentences were missing and there were a few words in it that clearly did not belong. I re-wrote it, quickly fixing some grammatical errors, but saved it as a draft by mistake. Once saved as a draft, the only way to get it back up is to re-publish the post. Those who subscribe will now understand why they received it as a new post.

I researched Kreuger again, and read many of the recent postings (online magazines, newspapers, etc.). If you wish to find out the results of my search, feel free to continue reading the entry).

A few nights ago, while paying my condolences to a dear friend who had just lost her father (a concentration camp survivor), a woman I had not seen in many years walked in. We said our, "Hello's," exchanged kisses and she sat down next to me. We were talking and she mentioned the recent news regarding Bernard Madoff.

As you probably know, Madoff recently confessed that he had been perpetrating a "Ponzi Scheme" on his investors and over many years had bilked them out of Fifty-Billion Dollars. We are only just beginning to learn the full ramifications of his embezzlement of individuals client funds and charitable organizations throughout the country.

I hadn't been paying much attention to the story because I was on vacation when it broke and was busy getting back to work and clearing post-vacation pile-up off my desk. I didn't know Madoff's name nor that he was Jewish. Once she told me this, I was not surprised when she said, "This is bad for Jews."

The fear she was expressing (though she didn't use these words) is that Madoff was responsible for "a shander fer de Goyim," a Yiddish expression that literally means "A shame for the Gentiles ." Idiomatically, it expresses concern that the actions of one individual will reflect badly on the entire Jewish culture/faith.

That a single person's actions could reflect on an entire people is absurd but not unusual. German's took a huge hit for Hitler (who was Austrian); Arabs for Osama bin Laden. However, there is a humongous difference between committing brutal crimes against humanity and committing fraud or stealing money. Of course previous instances of Jews involved in financial crimes does not help to move away from racist perceptions regarding Jews and money.

Michael Milken -racketeering and securities fraud Ivan Boesky - insider trading Marc Rich - tax evasion and trading with Iran against US policy Andrew Fastow – wiring and securities fraud (Enron)

These men all committed crimes involving greed or stealing or both. Physically, they hurt no one, yet the hate mail is pouring out and not necessarily against Madoff but against, you guessed it, the Jews.

When the woman expressed her concerns for Jews, I told her I couldn't believe that anything would happen but I turned out to be wrong. The sister of a friend ran a local charitable foundation. She lost her job when the foundation found out all of its money had been stolen by Madoff. She has already started to receive anti-Semitic hate mail, which is a little weird since the foundation was set-up to send Jewish teenagers to Israel at the foundation's cost. Some Jews think it is even more despicable, even more of a "shander" that Madoff victimized his own people. I understand that mindset but it does play into an additional racist thinking that Jews only do business with other Jews (which is complete nonsense of course).

During a brief Internet check, there were news articles everywhere such as, "Jewish leaders fear anti-Semitic backlash," "Anti-Semitism floods Internet after Madoff scandal" and "As predictable as stink on poop: Madoff scam stories bring out the online anti-Semites." This development doesn't surprise me but the irony is delicious. You see, at this point we do not know exactly who Madoff's victims were and how much each lost but reports indicate that many were wealthy Jews and Jewish philanthropic organizations. I am sure there were plenty of Gentiles who got taken as well.

You would think, however, that anti-Semites would be overjoyed at the thought of a Jew stealing from Jews and Jewish Charities (Jeffrey Katzenberg, Stephen Spielberg, The Shapiro Foundation, and Brandeis University to name a few). I guess that in order to be that gleeful they would have to have the intelligence and education to understand that the effects of Madoff's thievery were mainly felt by other Jews.

I was doing research on this entry to find out the identities of the greatest swindlers of all time and how many of them were Jewish. I knew that there is evidence to circumstantially support the idea that Ivar Kreuger, the biggest swindler of all time, could have been Jewish. He ran the biggest "Jewish" bank in Germany when Hitler came to power. He was also a Swede. I have still found nothing supporting or debunking his ethnicity as a Jew. Many think another swindler, Jay Gould was a Jew because of his last name; that is factually incorrect.

This brings me to my point. Why should it matter whether Madoff was Jewish? Was it his "Jewishness" that made him embezzle? Is white-collar crime taught in Hebrew School? Are Jews as genetically predisposed to be white-collar criminals as Blacks are to being drug addicts, Hispanics to being lazy or Orientals to being inscrutable? Does this happen because Jews only care about money?

What a bunch of nonsense. Yet Jews as a people always look at these stories and our first thought is, "Is he Jewish?" Is this another "shander fer de goyim." Of course, it is true that Jews control all the money and the media. If Jews control all the money, why do we have to steal it. Also, what happened to mine? If we control the media, then why do we even let people know about Madoff or let people spew anti-Semitic venom over the Internet?

Is this latest "shander" worth getting my bowels in an uproar? Not at all, but the stupidity of it is surely worth pointing out. Sometimes it's just better to say, "Loyzem gayne" and be done with it.

Nota secundum: This recent "phenomenom" totally validates my point. There were inquiries from all over the world (UAE, UK, France, Netherlands, Japan, and various US States and cities). I have no idea whether the inquiries were from Jews or from Jew haters. When all is said and done though, isn't a stupid waste of time for both?

Jeffrey Mintz Copyright 2008. All Rights Reserved.
Posted by Jeffrey Mintz on Saturday, December 20, 2008

http://www.mintzsmusings.com/2008/12/sh ... goyim.html
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Christopher Marlowe

It's interesting to read the Jewish blogs after some shameful event like the rabbi organ theft ring. One can read terms like, "a shander fer de Goyim", in a context that is basically saying, "We shouldn't say this publicly because it will bring shame on all the Jews."  

But in another light, how much different is this tribal willingness to cover up crime from the mafia "omerta", or "code of silence"? Basically, it is the understanding within a crime gang that you do not speak publicly about the crimes of the crime gang.
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