Gordon Duff Dodges Nazi-Holocaust Interview

[Wimpy]

Rabbit Salutes the Moon-Qi Gong (Taoist 3,500 years old)
End of 'Tol" exercises-Tae Kwon Do (Borrowed from Buddhism)

[SPECTEC]

Hmm...I'm not entirely versed in this topic...but one questioned Ive always wanted to ask, and maybe someone can give me an explanation or hook me up with some mor intel...but why would Hitler ever accept Jewish money and why would a Jew ever loan money to Hitler? It almost seems like back deals were made...no? I could see why someone might think he was a Mason or even a Jew for that matter...
http://www.nyapolitiken.biz/frimurare_o ... n-sade.pdf
Wall Street And The Rise Of Hitler Antony Sutton Chapter 7 Who Financed Hitler

[thirdeyewise]

Do you think Glenn Beck is a Mason.. look a his hand?

pretty funny. You take some guy waving his hand and compare it to the obviously repeated pose done by Hitler...there is no comparison!
You did the same thing with the Fascist uniforms. If you did not understand the Italian fascism connection then I really don't expect you to connect much else. Like I said with Hitler it's more about protecting the dots than connecting them.

The "M'' pose is Masonic (and obvious) with everyone else except for Hitler; can't say I'm surprised.

Why is it that with Hitler you have to re-emphasize, re-explain and re-articulate simple concepts.

You keep ignoring my question about Jewish supremacy and Hitler's sister???

Also, who was trying to alter my post while I was still editing it...still no answer for that either.

You're not reaching at all there right Third Eye?
I'm sure you could find pictures of even myself VAGUELY holding my hands in an M shape like Hitler.  I must be a mason too.

Tell me Gordzilla, what do you think of all those thousands of fascist Jews around Mussolini...I know, nothing. With Hitler and anything involving him, everything is the opposite of the obvious.

We can't have any heroes I guess.

That's the problem...hero worship. FUCK LOGIC, GIVE ME MY HERO...RIGHT?!

You need heroes:

Jim Traficant
Helen Thomas
Mahathir Mohamad
John F. Kennedy
Richard Nixon

and many more that don't come to mind right now

[GordZilla]

Hero worship? (figured you would go there) no I was making the point that they will and always do throw mud in the water on anyone that stands against them. I only worship one, and that will not change.

Mussolini's  Jewish support was something I admittedly have not looked into much, nor have I studied Mussolini - the man - in much great detail either. For one , he was not nearly as wise or well spoken as his counterpart in Germany at the time, so not as interesting to me. Two; he seems to be more of a greedy opportunistic man than anything honourable. But since you brought it up I did a little searching, found this;

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Betrayed+ ... 0172011806

Which doesn't support either of our points, yours nor mine. To me it just shows the opportunistic nature of the Jew and illustrates  the fact that the Axis had no real plans for mass extermination of the Jews. Germany itself had Jewish supporters at the time, so again; what of it?

His sister is a step sister after all, and frankly what she ended up doing with her life has no real bearing on Hitler's role in history. It's a straw man argument. I'll keep an open mind and I don't need earthly heroes,  but please use something creditable to make your claims.  And yeah the pics of Hitler are not that convincing of anything, sorry.

 Hitler may have been a puppet of the Jews, but again he let out so much truth about the Jew to the common folk that the damage was immense to the Jew and still some of it still lingers today. Except today, of course, we have the all powerful ADL to combat such talk, but back then they just simply allowed, better; instructed, for it to happen??

[Fester]

A quick thought, GordZ, maybe Hitler released "so much" on the Jews because they were going to turn him into the ultimate symbol of evil and therefore stain every truth he uttered (or read from the script).

I haven't had time to read all that's gone up.  Just thought i'd throw it out.

[GordZilla]

A quick thought, GordZ, maybe Hitler released "so much" on the Jews because they were going to turn him into the ultimate symbol of evil and therefore stain every truth he uttered (or read from the script).

I haven't had time to read all that's gone up.  Just thought i'd throw it out.

Could be, though I think that's a pretty dangerous game for them to play. I'm still leanning towards he was just speaking the truth about them. Jews don't tend to speak the truth about anything and especially not about themselves.

[thirdeyewise]

Mussolini's  Jewish support was something I admittedly have not looked into much, nor have I studied Mussolini - the man - in much great detail either. For one , he was not nearly as wise or well spoken as his counterpart in Germany at the time, so not as interesting to me. Two; he seems to be more of a greedy opportunistic man than anything honourable.

Big picture my friend. Mussolini is simply part of the big Jewish picture. I could care less about the man personally, I am looking at his actions and those around him; the big picture.

His sister is a step sister after all, and frankly what she ended up doing with her life has no real bearing on Hitler's role in history.

Perfect example of what I am talking about. Jewish relations are used to connect every figure in history to organized Jewry...but not Hitler.

Now, she is simply his half sister and has no bearing on the man. Let any other historical figure have Jewish relatives and see if a Jewish connection is not instantaneously made.

It's a straw man argument.

Right. Tell me, what isn't a straw man argument, when it comes to this one man in history?

And yeah the pics of Hitler are not that convincing of anything, sorry.

The pics on Hitler are simply one of many points I am trying to use to let you guys see what I see.
one dot, one dot, one dot...connect them!

but please use something creditable to make your claims.

That is a Mind blowing statement right there. Go re-read my post and tell me what needs credibility.
Putting aside personal beliefs, what exactly is not credible? I post pictures of Jews in fascist uniforms and quotes praising Fascism as a Jewish invention and what do I get; "Oh, they look more soviet than anything" :crazy:

Tell me, where is the honesty and credibility in that statement?

I am going to use some statements and questions I received on YouTube to try and clarify where I am coming from.
 

Hitler was not a Freemason, and indeed banned freemasonry from Germany and all Nazi-occupied territory, rounded up all Freemasons and put them in concentration camps along with Jewish communists.

Bela Kun (a Jew) in Hungary also banned Freemasonry. The Bolsheviks in Russia supposedly banned Freemasonry too, and we both know they were Jews.

The Nazis continued where Ludendorff left off. But others had preceded them in Mason-baiting. In 1917, as one of their acts, the Bolsheviks dissolved all lodges in Russia. In 1919, when Bela Kun proclaimed the dictatorship of the proletariat in Hungary, one of his first decrees ordered the dissolution of Masonic lodges. In 1925, Spain's first dictator of this generation, General Primo de Rivera, ordered the abolition of Freemasonry in his country.

http://theamericanmercury.org/2010/09/the-annihilation-of-freemasonry/


In this post I discuss the hidden hand Masonic pose.
http://theforbiddentruth.net/4704-masonic-hand-signs.html

Notice how this guy proudly points out that the Bolsheviks also banned Freemasonry.

"BTW, Stalin may have had an itch that needed scratching but he and his Bolshevists opposed Freemasonry, too."

http://theforbiddentruth.net/24038-post16.html

How is it you supposedly oppose Freemasonry but everyone you see is blatantly doing Masonic gestures?



See what I was saying about people contradicting themselves and not even caring if someone notices? Why should someone have to take time out to argue something so simple? We all know Freemasonry is a Jewish trap for gentiles. The Bolsheviks were Jews yet they were against Freemasonry?

At the peak of the anti-Mason agitation, in 1925-27, blackshirt strong-arm squads looted the homes of well-known Masons in Milan, Florence and other cities, and murdered at least 100 of them.

Knowing that the Italian fascist movement was full of Jews and Understanding how Jews operate, is it so far fetched to say that the Blackshirts doing the looting were probably Jewish while the Masons being looted were low level gentiles? Jews have applied this tactic many times throughout history. Remember, the bottom tier of Freemasonry is all gentiles. Is it so hard to imagine that it was this level of Freemasonry that was persecuted & thrown in jail while the top tier remained undisturbed?

Hitler kicked out the Central Banking Jews of Germany

"If he was taking orders from Rothschild then to what end is this policy if not purposely destructive to Rothschild's own interests? "

What interest, making money?

To close down a few banks and replace it with the greatest Jewish money making machine ever invented; war?

Remember: Jews and war

"Wars are the Jews harvest, for with them we wipe out the Christians and get control  of their gold. We have already killed 100 million of them, and the end is not yet." (Chief Rabbi in France, in 1859, Rabbi Reichorn).

"Get hold of fifty of the wealthiest Jewish financiers, the men who are interested in making wars for their own profit. Control them, and you will put an end to it all." — Henry Ford, father of the automobile industry, the Cleveland News, 20th September 1923.

"It was a Jew who said, 'Wars are the Jews' harvest'; but no harvest is so rich as civil wars." — Henry Ford

I would hardly call that "destructive to their interest."

Especially them taking into account, that after the war, a new headquarters for international criminality will be established. Imagine the untold wealth these Jews were planning on making from Israel:

Israel Seen as Paradise for Money Laundering – NY times Feb 21 2000

World leader in the sex slave trade - Jerusalem post mag June 16, 2000

Israel women trafficking soars - BBC news 24 March, 2005

Israel: Sex Slavery Thrives - Jewish Tribune March 30, 2006

Israel at Center of the ecstacy drug trade - Haaretz Nov 29, 2009

Israel admits organ harvesting - The Guardian/JTA Dec 21, 2009

Also, the state of Israel is a kabalistic mandate for them. In religious terms money then becomes secondary. From Israel comes world domination (remember) and an even greater unrestricted share of the world's wealth.
Seems like a calculated trade off, to me. Once world government is established...ching ching $$$!

If what you say is true than it was one crazy elaborate ruse that's for sure.

Crazy elaborate ruses like:

The Holyhoax, The Federal Reserve scam, The income tax scam, The cold war hoax, The fake war on terror, Global Warming $cam or 911?

The elaborate operations like in Bolshevik Russia or the Young Turks in Turkey, are those the elaborate ruses you are referring to?


I showed this picture of Nietzsche doing the Masonic pose.

Nietzsche was a Jew-lover and he didn't invent National Socialism -- Hitler did.

He said something very true but try explaining that to one of the Hitler cultist who have tribute videos to Nietzsche all over their websites. They will fight you tooth and nail over something they really don't even understand. To them Nietzsche equals Nazism, period.

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Jews have always been fascist. They are fascist in the most tyrannical sense of the word.

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All they did was use the Talmudic concept of projection. They turned around and projected their various traits on their enemy. Knowing that in the future they could point their fingers and accuse them of the very thing they actually are.

[Panoptimist]

Why do I get the strange impression that Duff is shilling? After he bailed on Yeager's interview I've been thinking about him a bit more. After reviewing some of his most recent articles on the Wikileaks I've got this sneaking hunch that maybe he's shilling ahead of us...you've got guys who are shilling in the completely opposite direction, like Jewns, but this guy Duff is throwing out all sorts of shit to attract anti-Jewish and anti-Talmudic and anti-Zionist groups, but I don't know what for. However, look over his stuff: Does he have any source for any of his information, or is it a bunch of "so and so secret CIA source said, blah blah." Yeah, he's got sources. The same sources that gave us WikiLeaks.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Why do I get the strange impression that Duff is shilling? After he bailed on Yeager's interview I've been thinking about him a bit more. After reviewing some of his most recent articles on the Wikileaks I've got this sneaking hunch that maybe he's shilling ahead of us...you've got guys who are shilling in the completely opposite direction, like Jewns, but this guy Duff is throwing out all sorts of shit to attract anti-Jewish and anti-Talmudic and anti-Zionist groups, but I don't know what for. However, look over his stuff: Does he have any source for any of his information, or is it a bunch of "so and so secret CIA source said, blah blah." Yeah, he's got sources. The same sources that gave us WikiLeaks.

It's easy... Duff bailed because Yeager was going to call him out on using the Holocaust Museum Director's Source "The Secret War Against the Jews" by John Loftus.  Like Rivero, Loftus mixes fact and fiction. Read the earlier posts on the USS Liberty attack and see how Loftus pretty much "Idiot Jewishly" defends Israel by blaming it all on a "Nazi-US-UK" plot.

As for the Masons:  they had a hand in many things but ultimately they were Jewish run.

As for Hitler's hand gestures in photos and paintings, I'm with Gord and not convinced at all.  Hitler was the real deal and not the best human being, but he did fight them. Mussolini and Hitler were both "opportunists".  I'm not convinced they were a part of a "secret club". However, I do see the Communist party leaders of Russia as members of the Masonic Lodges.  Hitler and the Nazis basically prohibited the Masons since they were political corrupters and the Nazis knew many of the same threads that Nesta Webster described about them:

This is basically accurate:

Hitler and Freemasonry
      

Hitler praising Freemasonry?
"All the supposed abominations, the skeletons and death's heads, the coffins and the mysteries, are mere bogeys for children. But there is one dangerous element and that is the element I have copied from them. They form a sort of priestly nobility. They have developed an esoteric doctrine not merely formulated, but imparted through the symbols and mysteries in degrees of initiation. The hierarchical organization and the initiation through symbolic rites, that is to say, without bothering the brain but by working on the imagination through magic and the symbols of a cult, all this has a dangerous element, and the element I have taken over. Don't you see that our party must be of this character...? An Order, that is what it has to be — an Order, the hierarchial Order of a secular priesthood... Ourselves or the Freemasons or the Church — there is room for one of the three and no more... We are the strongest of the three and shall get rid of the other two." 2

The reality

"On Hitler's rise to power, the ten Grand Lodges of Germany were dissolved.3 Many among the prominent dignitaries and members of the Order were sent to concentration camps. The Gestapo seized the membership lists of the Grand Lodges and looted their libraries and collections of Masonic objects. Much of this loot was then exhibited in an "Anti-Masonic Exposition" inaugurated in 1937 by Herr Dr. Joseph Goebbels in Munich. The Exposition included completely furnished Masonic temples.
"The persecution was carried over into Austria when the country was captured by the Nazis. The Masters of the various Vienna lodges were immediately confined in the most notorious concentration camps, including the horrible living hell at Dachau in Bavaria. The same procedure was repeated when Hitler took over Czechoslovakia, then Poland. Immediately after conquering Holland and Belgium, the Nazis ordered the dissolution of the lodges in those nations. It was also Point One on the agenda of Major Quisling in Norway. It may be taken as part of the same ugly picture that General Franco of Spain in 1940 sentenced all Freemasons in his realm automatically to ten years in prison. When France fell last June, the Vichy government caused the two Masonic bodies of France, the Grand Orient and the Grande Loge to be dissolved, their property being seized and sold at auction." 4
Hitler's hatred of Freemasonry is clearly documented.5 In 1931 Nazi party officials were given a "Guide and Instructional Letter" that stated, "The natural hostility of the peasant against the Jews, and his hostility against the Freemason as a servant of the Jew, must be worked up to a frenzy." 6 On April 7, 1933, Hermann Goering—who once considered becoming a freemason—held an interview with Grand Master von Heeringen of the "Land" Grand Lodge of Germany, telling him there was no place for Freemasonry in Nazi Germany. 7 The Nazi Primer, the Official Handbook for the Schooling of Hitler Youth, attacked freemasons, marxists, and the Christian churches for their "mistaken teaching of the equality of all men" by which they were said to be seeking power over the whole world. 8

Hitler, in his own words:

"To strengthen his political position he [the Jew] tries to tear down the racial and civil barriers which for a time continue to restrain him at every step. To this end he fights with all the tenacity innate in him for religious tolerance—and in Freemasonry, which has succumbed to him completely, he has an excellent instrument with which to fight for his aims and put them across. The governing circles and the higher strata of the political and economic bourgeoisie are brought into his nets by the strings of Freemasonry, and never need to suspect what is happening.
"Only the deeper and broader strata of the people as such, or rather that class which is beginning to wake up and fight for its rights and freedom, cannot yet be sufficiently taken in by these methods. But this is more necessary than anything else; for the Jew feels that the possibility of his rising to a dominant role exists only if there is someone ahead of him to clear the way; and this someone he thinks he can recognize in the bourgeoisie, in their broadest strata in fact. The glovemakers and linen weavers, however, cannot be caught in the fine net of Freemasonry; no, for them coarser but no less drastic means must be employed. Thus Freemasonry is joined by a second weapon in the service of the Jews: the press. With all his perseverance and dexterity he seizes possession of it. With it he slowly begins to grip and ensnare, to guide and to push all public life, since he is in a position to create and direct that power which, under the name of 'public opinion,' is better known today than a few decades ago." 9

"While the international world Jew slowly but surely strangles us, our so-called patriots shouted against a man and a system which dared in one corner of the earth at least, to free themselves from the Jewish-Masonic embrace and oppose a nationalistic resistance to this international world poisoning." 10
"The general pacifistic paralysis of the national instinct of self preservation begun by Freemasonry in the circles of the so-called intelligentsia is transmitted to the broad masses and above all to the bourgeoisie by the activity of the big papers which today are always Jewish." 11
"The prohibition of Masonic secret societies, the persecution of the supra-national press as well as the continuous demolition of international Marxism, and, conversely, the steady reinforcement of the Fascist state conception, will in the course of the years cause the Italian Government to serve the interests of the Italian people more and more, without regard for the hissing of the Jewish world hydra." 12

1. Painting of Adolf Hitler, artist unknown: Imperial War Museum.
2. Hitler Speaks, Hermann Rauschning. Andover: Chapel River Press, 1939; Gespräche mit Hitler, Paris, 1939 ; The Voice of Destruction, New York: Europa Verlag, 1940. Hitler m'a dit. Confidences du Führer sur son plan de conquête du monde, etc. (Traduit par Albert Lehman.) Cited by Hitler and the Age of Horus, Gerald Suster, London : Sphere Books, 1981. xviii, 231 p., [8] p. of plates : ill. Bibliography: p. 215-216. Includes index. ISBN: 0722182872 p. 138.
Rauschning's writings were presented as Allied prosecution exhibit USSR-378, at the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg but dismissed by the OSS as unreliable. In May 1983, Swiss historian Wolfgang Haenel compiled the criticisms of Rauschning's books in a presentation at the Ingolstadt Contemporary History Research Center, demonstrating that Rauschning only met Hitler on four occasions, not the "more than a hundred" that he claimed. Words attributed to Hitler were copied from the works of Ernst Jünger (1895 - 1998) and Friedrich Nietzsche, Guy de Maupassant and Fyodor Dostoyevsky, with the assistance of two journalists: Emery Reves in Paris, and Henry Wickham-Steele in Britain. Hitler biographer Ian Kershaw discounts Rauschning. Also see The Journal of Historical Review, Fall 1983; Die Zeit; Der Spiegel, 7 September 1985.
3. The original text reads "Immediately on...." which subsequent research has shown to be less than accurate. Although Hitler became dictator on 23(24) March 1933, several Grand Lodges attempted to remain active and the Dresden and Leipzig Grand Lodges did not dissolve until 10 August 1935. For a review of German Freemasonry's attempts to reconcile themselves with the Nazis, see "German Freemasonry and its attitude towards the Nazi regime," Alain Bernheim. freemasons-freemasonry.com accessed 2007/03/07.
4. "The Annihilation of Freemasonry," Sven G. Lunden. The American Mercury, vol. lii, No. 206, February 1941. In essence true, based on false reports it failed to distinguish between the several German Grand Lodges, and their various responses to the Nazi government. users.libero.it/fjit.bvg/fascism.html accessed 2004/08/13. Cf. After Fifteen Years [-] Freemasonry in Germany [-] Report of the Special Mission sent by the Masonic Service Association of the United States to investigate Masonic conditions in Germany, 1949. Masonic Service Association, October 1949. Also see Große National-Mutterloge "Zu den drei Weltkugeln" im Verband der Vereinigten Großlogen von Deutschland Bruderschaft der Freimaurer 1933-2000 [.] Versuch einer Standortbestimmung. Schriftleitung Werner Schwartz. 3 Bünde. Berlin: Große National-Mutterloge "Zu den drei Weltkugeln". Cited by Alain Bernheim ; see above.
5. "European Freemasonry has been persecuted more thoroughly in the last twenty years than ever before in its turbulent history. Mussolini strangled Freemasonry in Italy in 1925. Hitler annihilated the German lodges when he came to power, and later those in Czecho-Slovakia, Poland, Norway, Holland, Belgium, and Greece. European Masons died, went underground, or fled." "Masons but Not Free," Newsweek, 25 June 1945, pp. 114-115. Cited by Paul Bessel bessel.org/naziartl.htm accessed 2006/01/22.
6. The brown book of the Hitler terror : and the burning of the Reichstag, prepared by the World Committee for the Victims of German Fascism ; with an introduction by Lord Marley. London: V. Gollancz, 1933. p. 234.
7. Lunden, The American Mercury p. 184. Also see, Hamilton, "Freemasonry, A Prisoner of War," in The New Age, September 1949, p. 552.
8. The New Age, Scottish Rite Southern Jurisdiction. October 1938. pp. 589-591. Also see www.bessel.org/naziartl.htm.
9. Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler [1889/04/20 - 1945/04/30]. trans. Ralph Manheim. Sentry Edition, Eleventh printing. Boston, Houghton Mifflin Company: n.d. c1925. Verlag Frz. Eher Nachf, G.M.B.H. p. 314-15.
10. Ibid. p. 465.
11. Ibid. p. 320.
12. Ibid. p. 637.

http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/hitler.html

[Fester]

I agree that it appears that Duff is trying to build up a following ASAP and he says very good things about 9/11 and the Holocaust.  

But I think Duff's really trying to do "The Rivero Two-Step." He doesn't want to have someone like Yeager PIN HIM DOWN on the subject.  He wants to suggest it's a load of shit occasionally for the street cred, but he NEEDS to be able to peddle the Bush-Nazi TWADDLE.  

If he's widely loved for his 9/11 and "inside info" (aka The New Alex Jones) then he can help to prevent folks from realizing that the Holler is the BIG LIE.  

I'm guessing that the parasites figure that they could spin 9/11 Truth if needed, but they know that 9/11 + Hollowhoax truth would put them in a permanently dire situation.

I had a little thread to keep track of Rivero's bullshit on the subject, but was much maligned for the effort.  It's here http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/11040.  I seemed to me that maybe Mikey didn't enjoy the attention.  I had noticed his frequent referrals to "the Nazis" over the years and should have started keeping track on the sly to build a better database.  I let a few go, but he can't lay off for very long.

If anyone knows how to do a search to pull up his work over the years, please share.  I've tried but suspect I'm not savvy enough to mine what might be out there.  Thanks!

[Wimpy]

Thought I would post Protocol #15 to support your argument Thirdeyewise.


Protocol #15 – Ruthless Suppression

1.  We shall come into our kingdom by the aid of a sudden overthrow of a government; done by our small group and carried out everywhere at once and all within a single day.  It may be a while before this takes place, perhaps even a whole century.  But when at last this definitely happens, and has been definitely acknowledged, we shall make it our job to see that things such as plots against us shall no longer exist.

With this purpose we shall slay without mercy all who take up arms to oppose our coming into our kingdom.  Every kind of new institution which is anything like a secret society will also be punished with death.  Those of them which are now in existence are known to us – they serve us and have served us.  We shall dissolve these and send their members into exile to continents far removed from Europe.

In this way we shall deal with those Goy Masons who know too much; some of whom we may spare for some reason, and they will be kept in constant fear of exile.

We shall formally declare a law making all former members of secret societies liable to exile from Europe which will be the center of our rule.

2.  Resolutions of our government will be final, and without appeal.

3.  The disagreement and Protestantism we planted in the Goy societies has now taken deep root.  The only possible way of restoring order is to employ merciless measures that prove the effectiveness of the direct force of authority.  No concern must be given to the victims who fall – they suffer for the well-being of the future.

Achieving that state of well-being, even at the expense of sacrifices, is the duty of any kind of government that acknowledges as justification for its existence, not only its privileges but its obligations.

The best way to guarantee stability of rule is to reinforce the aura of power, and this aura is gained only by displaying such a convincing stubbornness of might that it shall carry the banner of invincibility from mystical causes on its face – from the choice of God.

It was like this until recent times, when the Russian autocracy was the one and only serious foe we had in the world, not counting the Pope.

Bear in mind the example when Italy, drenched with blood, never touched a hair on the head of Sulla who had poured forth that blood: Sulla enjoyed a god-like status for the might in him, but his fearless return to Italy made him appear sacred and invincible.

The people do not lay a finger on someone who hypnotizes them by his daring and mental strength.

Secret Societies

4.  Meanwhile, however, before we come into our kingdom, we shall act in the contrary way: we shall create and multiply Free Masonic lodges in all the countries of the world and bring all types of people into them – people who may become or who are already prominent in public activity.  In these lodges we shall find our principal intelligence office and means of influence.

We shall bring all these lodges under one central administration which known to us alone and absolutely unknown to all others, and which will be composed of our learned elders.  The lodges will have their representatives who will serve to screen the above-mentioned administration of Masonry and who will issue the watchword and program.

In these lodges we shall tie the knot which binds together all revolutionary and liberal elements.  They will come from all levels of society.  The most secret political plots will be known to us and fall under our guiding hands on the very day of their conception.

Among the members of these lodges will be almost all the agents of international and national police since their service for us is irreplaceable based on the fact that the police are in a position to not only use their own particular measures with members who are insubordinate, but also to screen our activities and provide pretexts for discontents, etc.

5.  The classes of people who most willingly enter into secret societies are those who live by their wits, the career-seeking types, and in general, mostly light-minded people, with whom we shall have no difficulty in dealing with and in using to wind up the mechanism of the machine devised by us.

If this world grows agitated it is because we have had to stir it up in order to break up its too great solidarity.  But if a plot should arise in its midst, then the person in charge of that plot will be none other than one of our most trusted servants.

It is natural that no one else other than us should lead Masonic activities, for we know where we are heading; we know the final goal of every type of activity.  Whereas the Goyim have knowledge of nothing; not even of the immediate effect of an action.  They usually only consider the momentary satisfaction which comes from the accomplishment of their thoughts.  They don't notice that their thoughts didn't arise from their own initiative but from ideas which we planted in their heads...
Gentiles are Stupid

6.  The Goyim enter the lodges out of curiosity or in the hope (by using their resources) of getting a piece of the public pie; and some of them in order to obtain a hearing before the public for their impracticable and groundless fantasies: they thirst for the emotion of success and applause, and we always generously applaud them.

And the reason why we give them this success is that it gives them an overrated opinion of themselves, which we can then make use of.  This conceit unconsciously causes them to include our suggestions into theirs without being on their guard against them.  They are fully confident that it is their own infallibility which is giving rise to their own thoughts and that it is impossible for them to borrow those of others...

You cannot imagine to what extent the wisest of the Goyim can be brought to a state of unconscious simple-mindedness in the presence of this condition of high conceit of themselves, and at the same time how easy it is to take the heart out of them by the slightest ill-success; even though it be nothing more than the lack of the applause which they previously had, and to reduce them to a slavish submission for the sake of winning a renewal of success...

We ourselves can disregard success so long as we are able to carry through our long-term plans.  The Goyim on the other hand are willing to sacrifice long-term plans in order to have success.

This psychology of theirs assists and enables us to set them in the required direction.  These tigers in appearance have the souls of sheep and the wind blows freely through their heads.  We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality into the symbolic unit of communism...

They have never yet (and never will) have the sense to realize that this hobby-horse is a clear violation of the most important law of nature: that it has created an entity quite different from any other since the very creation of the world, and that its only purpose is to control individuality...

7.  Isn't the fact that we have been able to bring them to such an extent of stupid blindness a proof, and an amazingly clear proof, of the degree to which the mind of the Goyim is undeveloped in comparison with our own mind?  Yes it is; and this is what mainly guarantees our success.

Gentiles are Cattle

8.  And how far-sighted were our learned elders in ancient times when they said that to attain a serious end it is essential not to stop at any means or to count the victims sacrificed for the sake of that end...

We have not counted the victims of the ancestry of the Goy cattle, and we have sacrificed many of our own.  But in exchange for that we have now given them such a position on the earth as they could not even have dreamed of.

The comparatively small numbers of the victims of our own people has preserved our nationality from destruction.

9.  Everyone has to die someday.  So it is better that those who hinder our affairs die much sooner than us since we are the founders of this plan.

We execute masons in such a clever way that no one other than us, the brotherhood, can ever suspect anything – not even the victims of our death sentence.  They all die when required as if from natural causes...

Knowing this, even the brotherhood dare not protest.  Using these methods we have removed the very root of protest against our management style out of the midst of the Masonry.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Jew official™ version = Hitler was a monster / Evil incarnate
Jew conspiracy version = Hitler was a Jew and/or crypto-Zionist puppet working for Jews

In my opinion the correct and non-Jewish paradigm here is that Hitler/the Nazis were the good guys of WW2 who simultaneously fought tooth and nail against the twin pillars of the Judaic crime network -- international Jewish Bolshevism and international Jewish finance capitalism -- which already had control of the governments of the U.S., England, Russia, France et all and used them to destroy the Third Reich.

If Hitler was a Jew-puppet he certainly didn't act like one when he freed Germany from Rothschild Jew-usury and began printing his own money backed by German labor. He wasn't acting like he was supposed to when he kicked every last Jew out of the German government, media, banks and industry, or when he commissioned the making of the film "The Rothschilds' Shares in Waterloo" exposing (according to the Jew-conspiracy version) his own handler's criminal past. He really wasn't playing the part as Jew-puppet very well when he booted the Rothschilds from Austria or when he launched a pre-emptive strike on Russia to eradicate the Judaic Tyranny over that country and save the Russian and Eastern European people from the invading hordes of Bolshevik savages. A Rothschild puppet simply doesn't behave in this way, in my opinion.

I very much see Hitler as a "rogue" whom the Jew overlords at first thought they could handle and maybe make use of, but who got out of hand and made some manoeuvres they simply could not tolerate, especially his economic policy. They had to put a stop to Hitler at all costs becuz he was an anti-JWO force who was gaining influence in Europe and challenged the money-changers' stranglehold over the entire continent. Sort of like what happened to Saddam Hussein or Manuel Noriega, though not quite on the scale as the situation in Europe during Hitler's rule.

Why the Jewish rulers of this earth would risk creating an ideology and movement like National Socialism -- an anti-Judaic movement with the expressed purpose of dislodging parasite from host -- and deliberately instill it in an entire population risking having it spread throughout Europe (a continent already ripe with anti-Judaic sentiments) simply to obtain a worthless strip of desert on the cusp of the Mediterranean about the size of New Jersey ... is beyond anyone's wildest imagination if the "Hitler=Jew agent" line of reasoning were to be true. I see National Socialism as a natural outgrowth of German discontent with Jewish domination of their beloved nation, with Judaic corruption in all realm's of influence they held sway over and with Jewish Bolshevism which was plain as day during this troublesome era of constant turmoil.

"Germany's unforgivable crime before the second world war," Churchill said," was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world's trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world finance its opportunity to profit." (Churchill to Lord Robert Boothby, quoted in the Foreword, 2nd Ed. Sydney Rogerson, Propaganda in the Next War
2001, orig. 1938.

[thirdeyewise]

Thought I would post Protocol #15 to support your argument Thirdeyewise.

Thanks. I just want everyone to understand that this is bigger than they even probably realize. I have always loved researching WW2 and the Nazis. When I came across the Jewish connection, almost by accident, it absolutely blew my mind. Not only did the Jews tell you what they were going to do before they did it but they also left a lot clues that ties everything together. They obviously could never have predicted the internet back in the beginning of the century. We have a good chance to beat these people.(I hope)

The stuff I posted is roughly only 10% of what I came up with and I am sure there is a lot more that people smarter than me could find. While I am not looking to make enemies, I really could care less if that's how it turns out, truth is truth. All I know is that I would rather die than be a slave to anyone or see these plans come to fruition.

Think about something:

Hitler's boss was Max Warburg.

The Jews told you what they were going to do:

But if there should arise in its midst a plot, then at the head of that plot will be no other than one of our most trusted servants. – protocol 15

Nowadays, if any States raise a protest against us it is only pro forma at our discretion and by our direction, for their anti-Semitism is indispensable to us for the management of our lesser brethren. –   protocol 9

"Anti-Semitism will act as a propelling force which, like the wave of the future, would bring the Jews into the promised land." - Theodore Herzl

"It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . .The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends." - Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897.

The founder member of the German Workers Party called Hitler a Jew and an infiltrator:

By 1921, Hitler was rapidly becoming the undisputed leader of the Party. In the summer of that year he travelled to Berlin to address a meeting of German Nationalists from northern Germany. While he was away the other members of the Party Committee, led by Drexler, circulated as a pamphlet an indictment of Hitler, which accused him of seeking personal power without regard to other considerations. Hitler brought a libel suit and Drexler was forced to repudiate at a public meeting. He was thereafter moved to the purely symbolic position of honorary president, and left the Party in 1923.

A lust for power and personal ambition have caused Herr Adolf Hitler to return to his post after his six weeks stay in Berlin, of which the purpose has not yet been disclosed. He regards the time as ripe for bringing disunion and schism to our ranks by means of shadowy people behind him, and thus futher the interests of the Jews and their friends.

It grows more and more clear that his purpose is simply to use the National Socialist party as a springboard for his own immoral purposes, and to seize the leadership in order to force the party onto a different track at the pyschological moment. This is most clearly shown by an ultimatum which he sent to the Party leaders a few days ago, in which he demands, among other things, that he shall have a sole and absolute dictatorship of the Party, and that the Committee, including the locksmith Anton Drexler, the founder and leader of the Party, should retire.

And how does he carry on his campaign? Like a Jew. He twists every fact....National Socialists! Make up your minds about such characters! Make no mistake. Hitler is a demogogue....He believes himself capable of filling you up with all kinds of tales that are anything but the truth

Source: The rise and fall of the Third Reich: a history of Nazi Germany By William L. Shirer (pg 45)

Throw into the mix that video of Hitler marching in that funeral and his many connections to the Jewish community...I mean really, come on!

Some might question what would be the benefit of exposing all this? Let me see if I can explain:


The Jews whole existence is based on the myth of being a persecuted people.

Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar.

Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.

They use this persecuting myth as an avatar to hide their crimes because no one in their right mind would blame the victim.
Like that picture I posted before:



The Jewish avatar: the victim


The cornerstone of this myth is the Nazi regime and the whole holocaust fraud. If you destroy that myth, you destroy their base of power. What better way to destroy that myth than destroying the Nazi story? The average Person equates the Nazis to pure evil. Connect the Jews to this pure evil and we have won half the battle.


 
People are already figuring it out on their own.



All they need now is the information to connect the dots.
Anyway, that's just my opinion.

"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, or who said it, even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."        
  - Buddha

[thirdeyewise]

We execute masons in such a clever way that no one other than us, the brotherhood, can ever suspect anything – not even the victims of our death sentence.

I never even read that far into the protocols. I got my idea about the low level masons being executed from reading the Harold Rosenthal interview and figuring out that masonry was probably operated much in the same way Rosenthal was describing the Communist secret government.

"Most Jews throughout the world, I'd say more than 90%, know what is really happening to our people. We have communication unequalled anywhere. "

"To answer your question in Russia, there are two distinct governments one visible and the other invisible. The visible is made up of different nationalities, whereas the invisible is composed of ALL JEWS. "

"The powerful Soviet Secret Police takes its orders from the invisible government. There are about six to seven million Communist in Soviet Russia, 50% are Jews and 50% are gentiles, but the gentiles are not trusted. The Communist Jews are united and trust each other, while the others spy on one another. About every five to six years the secret Jewish Board calls for the purge of the party and many are liquidated. "

"Because they begin to understand too much about the Jewish secret government. Russian Communists have a Secret Group Order which consists of Jews only. They rule over everything pertaining to the visible government. "

"It is an established rule to destroy all members of pre-existing government, their families and relatives, but never Jews. They destroy all members of the police, state police, army officers and their families but never Jews. "

"There will be a forced class warfare here in the United States and many will be liquidated. You will unquestionably be among them. The Jews will not be harmed. I'm not boasting! I'm giving you the facts! "

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rosenthal.html


Thanks for the secondary confirmation.

[SPECTEC]

As a noobie to this site...I gotta say...I'm learning so much...thanks to everyone for posting. Incredible information. :clap:

[Fester]

Helphand did some very intriguing work on Duff and Gates in this thread http://www.theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=11468.

[Fester]

Listening to the Glenn-Gates-Duff-Tourney show.  Must say Glenn seems happy enough to have Duff run the show.  Duff is providing some good details on Israeli crimes and the missing nuke issue.  

At the 41:50 minute mark Duff rings the Holocaust Denial chime, "and we have these discussions with Holocaust deniers.  And they say 5 million and they say 3 million and a...Israel says 6 million and it's all about the number.  If you don't kill 6 million people, if you only kill 500,000 Palestinians it's not a holocaust.  You gotta kill 6 million of them..."

I've long been convinced that they know how to handle an exposure of Israeli crimes or Israeli domination of the US with some "rogue administration(s)" horseshit, but THEY CANNOT HANDLE A WORLDWIDE RECOGNITION OF THE HOLOCAUST LIE.  It would open everyone's eyes to the domination of all aspects of society and thought by the parasites.  Ergo, Duffer will work that Holler in whenever he can while scattering detailed chickenfeed all about as fast as he can.

[Fester]

Mikey Rivero features these gems to help the goyim understand the evils of the Nazis and reinforce dat old gold-plate Holler:

U.S. Recruited Nazis More Than Thought, Declassified Papers Show
http://www.activistpost.com/2010/12/us-recruited-nazis-more-than-thought.html
Sam Roberts
The New York Times

In chilling detail, the report also elaborates on the close working relationship between Nazi leaders and the grand mufti of Jerusalem...In fact, the report says, the Muslim leader was paid "an absolute fortune" of 50,000 marks a month (when a German field marshal was making 25,000 marks a year). It also said he energetically recruited Muslims for the SS, the Nazi Party's elite military command, and was promised that he would be installed as the leader of Palestine after German troops drove out the British and exterminated more than 350,000 Jews there.

Guess it was the same story at two different sites (poorrichard's and www.activistpost.com).  Is this Mikey's lust or is there some program that he uses that picks the stories up?  I am not very savvy.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Throw into the mix that video of Hitler marching in that funeral and his many connections to the Jewish community...I mean really, come on!

I think you are ignoring the obvious and playing up the obscure. Unilaterally tossing all Jews out of the German government, media and banking institutions is somehow not proof that he was against Jewish influence... but since he once had a Jew roommate or lived near a Jew or may have had some far-off Jewish ancestry that he didn't even know about is obviously proof he was working for Max Warburg...? It doesn't fly too far in my opinion.

The guy didn't live in a bubble, of course he came into contact with Jews in his life, that doesn't mean he was working for them. I see you like quoting or sourcing Jack Bernstein, Benjamin Freedman and Harold Rosenthal. They're all Jews. If even the flimsiest association with a few token Jews in his life makes Hitler a Jew/Agent of Jews--even if he proclaims to be against them and makes strong moves against them--then using full-blooded Jews as some of your trusted sources doesn't make much sense.

The 'Hitler was a Jew' line is the first thing a Jew will hit you with when they find out that you're Jew-wise. (see Marc Levin's "Protocols of Zion" jew-apologist movie when he's talking to the Aryan Nations guy -- when they get crackin about Hitler Levin reeled out the 'hitler was a jew' canard almost immediately.) Otherwise they'd be playing the trademark™ version "Hitler's a monster he killed six million Jews!" It depends which side of the fence you're on, they spin accordingly

I'm not saying that's the case with you as you actually bring at least some semblance of evidence to the table, but Jews love to use that line I have noticed.

The Jews told you what they were going to do:

But if there should arise in its midst a plot, then at the head of that plot will be no other than one of our most trusted servants. – protocol 15

Nowadays, if any States raise a protest against us it is only pro forma at our discretion and by our direction, for their anti-Semitism is indispensable to us for the management of our lesser brethren. –   protocol 9

"Anti-Semitism will act as a propelling force which, like the wave of the future, would bring the Jews into the promised land." - Theodore Herzl

"It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . .The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends." - Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897.

I'm not at all convinced that Herzl had "Jew World Order" in mind when he thought up the Zionist project. He actually was a self-hating Jew and admired Gentiles and European culture. Maybe he was trying to do us a favor by getting the Jews out of Gentile countries and situated on their own soil so they can't bother us anymore? His aim was not to resettle Jews in Palestine, he actually didn't care where and proposed Uganda, but the nasty Eastern European Zionists wanted Palestine and ridiculed him into obscurity.  

http://www.jewishmag.com/9mag/herzl/herzl.htm

When Herzl began to expound his ideas of a central world organization to mass move the Jews to some as yet unknown territory, he was met with mass resentment by the eastern European Jews who regarded him either as a madman or completely off the target. Herzl was not rebuffed and continued his promulgating his ideas. It did not matter to Herzl which country or territory was given to the Jews, to Herzl, the main concern was that the Jews be given an area to which they had there own dominion and hence the phenomena of anti-semitism would cease. Herzl's genius at organization and convincing slowly began to bear fruits. He began to publish his ideas on the solution to the Jewish problems. Slowly the initial rejection by the established Zionist organization began to wear down and he began to increase in popularity amongst the masses. Many people admired his ideas on organization and financial banking that would fund the Jewish settlement.

With Jewish support, Herzl now began a new stage in his aspirations. He began making political connections to further the territorial quest. Meeting with heads of states and ministers, he began making serious inroads towards his goals. With an organized financial support, the backing of the Zionist groups and the masses, Herzl convened the first Zionist Congress in 1897. At this stage he was name the president of the newly formed World Zionist Organization.

Herzl worked hard to find a territory for the Jews. Sinai and Cyprus were two territories under consideration. Then in 1903, the British offered Herzl the area called Uganda. At this time pogroms and oppression in Russia reached a new high. Herzl felt that taking Uganda would be justified. He submitted the Uganda plan to the sixth Zionist Congress. The proposal aroused strong opposition and resentment. The eastern European Jews regarded it as a betrayment to the dream of settling in the land of Israel. So strong and hostile was the opposition, it caused Herzl to write a written commitment to abandon the Uganda plan.

Hitler actually predicted what a Jewish state in Palestine meant for the world:

"For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn't even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks."--A. Hitler, English translation by Ralph Manheim, Mein Kampf, Houghton Mifflin, Boston, New York, (1971), pp. 324-325.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html

"Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938 and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and misgivings that his policies might contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of ridding Germany of its Jews, he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29"

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

A key point to keep in mind in the difference between Marxist-Jew Masons and Hitler-Nazi Masons is that the Masons were never on the Nazis side in Weimer Germany...they were on the Marxist's side. Also, the Marxist-Jews eliminate the Masons once they formally take power to rule... Hitler and the Nazis saw the Masons as a JEWISH POWER CENTER in Germany... the reasons for eliminating the Masons as a political force are clearly distinct.  It's like Ron Paul... he's working for non-Jew corrupted world isn't he??? And he's a Mason... of the Bolshevik variety or Nazi variety?


Why didn't David Irving uncover all of this information about Hitler and Nazi's being "Secret-Crypto Jews-Masons"?  

Is it because David Irving is a Crypto himself... and wanted to become a Jewish Judas Goat of Holohoax Denial ?  

I agree with MonkeySeeMonkeyDo... you can't always trust the writings of these Jews on the Nazis.  The Nazis were first Nationalist Socialists as a political movement and counter to the Jewish led Socialists and Marxists.  Remember Hitler was BAPTIZED a CATHOLIC and did attend the Catholic church in Austria.... and that meant something to a lot of people who supported him.  And, he went to school with Jews and worked with Jews etc... and had a few Jews in the early Nazi party... does this mean it was a Jewish movement run by 99.99% Goyim??? Jews were still pulling the diplomatic strings in the background in some top secret Jewish Plot?  

I guess you think the reason why David Irving doesn't claim Hitler was "Jewish" is because Irving is a Jew himself???  Along with all the other writers like Toland....  be careful of "headfakes" in this research...

David Irving Is Jewish!
Assembled by John "Birdman" Bryant

A Footnote of Irony
By Germar Rudolf

The Revisionist · 2004 · Volume 2 · No. 2 · p. 122

A few weeks ago I met Dietmar Munier in Chicago, owner of the medium-sized publishing company Arndt in Kiel, northern Germany. He was hunting original color photographs of the Third Reich era for his many upcoming book projects, and while visiting archives in the United States, he decided to stop by and meet me so that we could discuss several future book publishing projects. Since Munier published several very interesting and important books on the history of the Second World War in particular as well as the years preceding, I hope to be able to publish English language editions of some of these books shortly.

One series of some five books addresses several aspects of the German-Russian war between 1941-1945. Another series features a collection of great color photos of various theaters of the Second World War; yet another series contains heavily illustrated books focusing on peacetime Germany before the war. As you can imagine, publishing such a large number of fine books requires some financial backing, which is why things may progress only slowly initially. But with a little luck, I may acquire an investor willing to put his money where his mouth is, so that these fine books can be offered to the English-speaking world soon.

During dinner, Herr Munier casually talked about various of his past, present, and future projects. While so doing, he touched briefly upon a project he had carried out several years ago: a Festschrift on the occasion of David Irving's 60th birthday. Subtitled Historians in Handcuffs (see illustration) and recounting David Irving's own painful experience, this 1998 book included contributions from a long list of highly renowned German scholars. One personality, however, whose article was originally planned to be included as well, was finally not represented: Ralf Hochhuth, author of the (in)famous play Der Stellvertreter (The Deputy). In this play, Hochhuth had turned the so-called confessions of Kurt Gerstein about his alleged activities at the purported extermination camp Belzec into a worldwide theater success, popularizing one of the most outrageous pieces of evidentiary nonsense on the 'Holocaust'.

The reason Hochhuth's article was not printed was that it contained many statements about Irving that were closer to unfounded ad hominem attacks than to the kind of statements one would expect in a Festschrift. One of Hochhuth's statements about Irving piqued the publisher's interest most intensely, and that was his claim that Irving's mother was Jewish. Herr Munier inquired about this in disbelief, but David Irving happily confirmed it: yes, his mother was Jewish, but he was never interested in this fact, nor was he raised within the Jewish tradition. He therefore never considered it to have any relevance. Thus, according to orthodox Jewish tradition, David Irving is a Jew, plain and simple.

The interesting questions arising from this are: Why did Ralf Hochhuth want to blow the whistle on Irving in this regard? Had he an interest in undermining Irving's financial basis by hoping to cut him off from some of his supporters who are anti-Semitic to the point where they would reject Irving because of this? And why was this fact never mentioned by anybody? Why was it not raised during Irving's libel case against Lipstadt? I bet all sides knew that an atheist Jew (Irving) was fighting against orthodox Jews (Lipstadt, van Pelt, and others). It was, and continues to be, a case of Jewish in-fighting, if you wish to label it that way.

Of course, Holocaust promoters can have no interest in advertising that the "main exponent" of "Holocaust Denial" is a Jew. Oy vey, what a publicity disaster that would be! (Even though Irving is, strictly seen, not even a Holocaust revisionist, but merely a benevolent observer.)

At the end of the day, one can argue that it doesn't matter what heritage Irving's mother had, at least not in regard to where the historical truth is to be found. But for many individuals it might make a difference in their personal attitude toward revisionism.

For me personally, this is only an interesting, curious, ironic footnote, the most interesting aspect being the reactions of others to this revelation.

>> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> >>
> >> On 7/12/04 at 4:50 AM RePorterNoteBook@aol.com
> >> >Date: 2004/07/12 Mon AM 03:15:59 GMT
> >> >To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> >> >Subject: David Irving says-"That is rubbish, my mom wasn't [Jewish]! "
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Dear Michael:
> >> >
> >> >That is rubbish, she wasn't!
> >> >
> >> >David Irving (now writing in Key West, Florida)
> >> >pp Focal Point Publications
> >> >
> >> >USA cellphone: 305 923 6259; or tollfree: 1 877 447 5678 -- email:
> >> >focalp@aol.com
> >> >==============
> >> >
> >> >Dear David:
> >> >
> >> >It may be "rubbish", but it still begs the question of where the info
> >came
> >> >from and why someone like Germar, who is noted for his precision and
> >> >accuracy,
> >> >would go to the trouble to circulate it.
> >> >
> >> >Peace.
> >> >Michael Santomauro

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/NetLoss ... udolf.html


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[thirdeyewise]

David Irving Is Jewish!

Wow, that's new information to me. Thanks for posting.

Dot, dot, dot....

yes, his mother was Jewish, but he was never interested in this fact, nor was he raised within the Jewish tradition. He therefore never considered it to have any relevance.:crazy:

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Well... FWIW... Alexander Hamilton being Jewish and Mason was new for me... and helped put a few pieces in the puzzle at that time... --CSR

Socialist Otto Stasser in the Nazi Party... doesn't talk much about the Jews in the early Nazi party. They know who the Jews were, violent Communist Internationalist agitators and thugs, and fought them face to face in the streets.  He was a Nationalist, Non Jewish Catholic "Red", and later against Hitler, unlike his brother Gregory who would later get killed off in the Night of the Long Knives after not accepting Hitler's rule in the 1930s:

http://www.archive.org/download/HitlerAndI_720/HitI.pdf

Strasserism

The name Strasserism came to be applied to this form of Nazism that developed around the brothers. Although they had been involved in the creation of the National Socialist Program of 1920, both called on the party to commit to 'breaking the shackles of finance capital'.[1] This opposition to "Jewish finance capitalism," which they contrasted to "productive capitalism," was shared by Adolf Hitler himself, who borrowed it from Gottfried Feder.[2]

This populist and antisemitic form of anti-Capitalism was further developed in 1925 when Otto Strasser published the Nationalsozialistische Briefe, which discussed notions of class conflict, wealth redistribution and a possible alliance with the Soviet Union. His 1930 follow-up Ministersessel oder Revolution ('Cabinet Seat or Revolution') went further by attacking Hitler's betrayal of the purported socialist aspect of Nazism, as well as criticizing the notion of Führerprinzip.[3] Whilst Gregor Strasser echoed many of the calls of his brother, his influence on the ideology is less, due to his remaining in the Nazi Party longer and to his early death. Otto, meanwhile, continued to expand his argument, calling for the break-up of large estates and the development of something akin to a guild system and the related establishment of a Reich cooperative chamber to take a leading role in economic planning.[4]

Strasserism, therefore, became a distinct strand of Nazism that, whilst holding on to previous Nazi ideals such as militant nationalism and anti-Semitism, added a strong critique of capitalism and framed this in the demand for a more "socialist-based" approach to economics.

It is disputed, however, whether Strasserism effectively represented a distinct form of Nazism. According to historian Ian Kershaw, "the leaders of the SA [which included Gregor Strasser] did not have another vision of the future of Germany or another politic to propose." But they advocated the radicalization of the Nazi regime, and the toppling of the German elites, calling Hitler's rise to power a "half-revolution," which needed to be completed.[5]

Keep in mind about Heinrich Bruening-- he could have been just flat out lying:

The Republic Collapses

    Amid the swirling mess in Berlin of political intrigue, rumors, and disorder, the SA, the Nazi storm troopers, stood out as an ominous presence. In the spring of 1932, many in the German democratic government came to believe the Brownshirts were about to take over by force.

    There were now over 400,000 storm troopers under the leadership of SA Chief Ernst Röhm. Many members of the SA considered themselves to be a true revolutionary army and were anxious to live up to that idea. Adolf Hitler had to rein them in from time to time so they wouldn't upset his own carefully laid plans to undermine the republic.

    Hitler knew he could not succeed as Führer of Germany without the support of existing institutions such as the German Army and the powerful German industrialists, both of whom kept a wary eye on the revolutionary SA.
    Above Left: Chancellor Heinrich Bruening - the last in a long line of noble politicians who tried to preserve the Republic. Above Right: General Kurt von Schleicher - contemptuous of the struggling Republic and determined to grab power for himself. Below: Franz von Papen who became deeply involved in the political intrigue that brought Hitler to power.

    In April of 1932, Heinrich Bruening, Chancellor of Germany, invoked Article 48 of the constitution and issued a decree banning the SA and SS all across Germany. The Nazis were outraged and wanted Hitler to fight the ban. But Hitler, always a step ahead of them all, knew better. He agreed, knowing the republic was on its last legs and that opportunity would soon come along for him.

    That opportunity came in the form of Kurt von Schleicher, a scheming, ambitious Army officer who had ideas of leading Germany himself. But he made the mistake (that would prove fatal) of underestimating Hitler. Schleicher was acquainted with Hitler and had been the one who arraigned for Hitler to meet Hindenburg, a meeting that went poorly for Hitler.

    On May 8, 1932, Schleicher held a secret meeting with Hitler and offered a proposal. The ban on the SA and SS would be lifted, the Reichstag dissolved and new elections called, and Chancellor Bruening would be dumped, if Hitler would support him in a conservative nationalist government. Hitler agreed.

    Schleicher's skillful treachery behind the scenes in Berlin first resulted in the humiliation and ousting of General Wilhelm Groener, a longtime trusted aide to President Hindenburg and friend of the republic. In the Reichstag, Groener, who supported the ban on the SA, took a severe public tongue lashing from Hermann Göring and was hooted and booed by Goebbels and the rest of the Nazis.

    "We covered him with such catcalls that the whole house began to tremble and shake with laughter. In the end one could only have pity for him. That man is finished," Joseph Goebbels wrote in his diary in 1932.

    Groener was pressured by Schleicher to resign. He appealed without success to Hindenburg and wound up resigning on May 13. Schleicher's next target was Chancellor Bruening.

    Heinrich Bruening was one of the last men in Germany who stood up to Hitler with the best interest of the people at heart. He was responsible for getting Hindenburg re-elected as president to keep out Hitler and preserve the republic. He was also hard at work on the international scene to help the German economy by seeking an end to war reparations. But his economic policies at home brought dismal results. As Germany's economic situation got worse, with nearly six million unemployed, Bruening was labeled "The Hunger Chancellor." (BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE OBAMA'S ADMINISTRATION, IT WAS RUN BY F'N JEWS!)

    Bruening had also continued the dangerous precedent of ruling by decree. He invoked Article 48 of the German constitution several times to break the political stalemate in Berlin.

    To Schleicher and Hitler, he was simply in the way and had to go. Schleicher went to work on him by undermining the support of Hindenburg. Bruening was already in trouble with Hindenburg, who blamed him for the political turmoil that had made it necessary to run for re-election at age 85 against the 'Bohemian Corporal' Adolf Hitler.

    Bruening also made an error in proposing that the huge estates of bankrupt aristocrats be divided up and given to peasants, sounding like a Marxist. Those same aristocrats, along with big industrialists, had scraped together the money to buy Hindenburg an estate of his own. When Hindenburg took his Easter vacation there in mid-May, he had to listen to their complaints about Bruening. All the while, Schleicher was at work against Bruening as well.

    On May 29, 1932, Hindenburg called in Bruening and told him to resign. The next day, Heinrich Bruening handed in his resignation, effectively ending democracy in Germany.

    Schleicher was now in control. He chose as his puppet chancellor, an unknown socialite named Franz von Papen who had grave doubts about his own ability to function in such a high office. Hindenburg, however, took a liking to Papen and encouraged him to take the job.
    May 1932 - A mass gathering of the unemployed outside a government-run job office in Berlin. Such gatherings sometimes led to street riots. Below: Chancellor Papen (third from right) with his befuddled Cabinet in June 1932.

    The aristocratic Papen assembled a cabinet of men like himself. This ineffective cabinet of aristocrats and industrialists presided over a nation that would soon be on the verge of anarchy.

    When Adolf Hitler was asked by President Hindenburg if he would support Papen as chancellor, he said yes. On June 4th, the Reichstag was dissolved and new elections were called for the end of July. On June 15, the ban on the SA and SS was lifted. The secret promises made to the Nazis by Schleicher had been fulfilled.

    Murder and violence soon erupted on a scale never before seen in Germany. Roaming groups of Nazi Brownshirts walked the streets singing Nazi songs and looking for fights.

    "Blut muss fliessen, Blut muss fliessen! Blut muss fliessen Knuppelhageldick! Haut'se doch zusammen, haut'se doch zusammen! Diese gotverdammte Juden Republik!" the Nazi storm troopers sang.

    Ttranslation: "Blood must flow, blood must flow! Blood must flow as cudgel thick as hail! Let's smash it up, let's smash it up! That goddamned Jewish republic!"

    The Nazis found many Communists in the streets wanting a fight and they began regularly shooting at each other. Hundreds of gun battles took place. On July 17, the Nazis under police escort brazenly marched into a Communist area near Hamburg in the state of Prussia. A big shoot-out occurred in which 19 people were killed and nearly 300 wounded. It came to be known as "Bloody Sunday."

    Papen invoked Article 48 and proclaimed martial law in Berlin and also took over the government of the German state of Prussia by naming himself Reich Commissioner. Germany had taken a big step closer to authoritarian rule.

    Hitler now decided that Papen was simply in the way and had to go.

    "I regard your cabinet only as a temporary solution and will continue my efforts to make my Party the strongest in the country. The chancellorship will then devolve on me," Hitler told Papen.

    The July elections would provide that opportunity. The Nazis, sensing total victory, campaigned with fanatical energy. Hitler was now speaking to adoring German audiences of up to 100,000 at a time. The phenomenon of large scale 'Führer worship' had begun. On July 31st, the people voted and gave the Nazis 13,745,000 votes, 37% of the total, granting them 230 seats in the Reichstag. The Nazi Party was now the largest and most powerful in Germany.

    On August 5th, Hitler presented his list of demands to Schleicher – the chancellorship; passage of an enabling act giving him control to rule by decree; three cabinet posts for Nazis; the creation of a propaganda ministry; control over the Ministry of the Interior; and control of Prussia. As for Schleicher, he would get the Ministry of Defense as a reward.

    Schleicher listened, didn't say yes or no, but would let him know later.

    With gleeful anticipation, Hitler awaited Schleicher's response and even ordered that a memorial tablet be made to mark the place where the historic meeting with Schleicher had occurred.

    Meanwhile, the SA began massing in Berlin anticipating a takeover of power. But old President Hindenburg soon put an end to Hitler's dreams. Hindenburg by now distrusted Hitler and would not have him as chancellor, especially after the behavior of the SA.

    On August 13, Schleicher and Papen met with Hitler and gave him the bad news. The best they could offer was a compromise – vice chancellorship and the Prussian Ministry of the Interior.

    A determined-looking Hermann Göring enters the Reichstag building in August 1932 - helping to stifle the democratic government for Hitler. Below: Hitler is cheered and saluted as he heads into a big meeting with President Hindenburg in November 1932.
    Below: Hitler's car is mobbed by admirers after his meeting with Hindenburg on November 19th.

    Hitler became hysterical. In a display of wild rage that stunned Schleicher and Papen, he spewed out threats of violence and murder, saying he would let loose the SA for three days of mayhem all across Germany.

    Later that same day, Hitler was called on the carpet by President Hindenburg. The former Austrian Corporal got a tongue lashing from the former Field Marshal after once again demanding the chancellorship and refusing to cooperate with Papen and Schleicher.

    In the presence of the steely-eyed old Prussian, Hitler backed down. The gamble for total victory had failed. He put the SA on a two week furlough and went to Berchtesgaden to lick his wounds. They would all have to wait, he told them. Just a little longer.

    On September 12, the Reichstag under the new chairmanship of Hermann Göring gave a vote of no confidence to Papen and his government. But just before that vote was taken, Papen had slapped an order on Göring's desk dissolving the Reichstag and calling yet again for new elections.

    This was a problem. Everyone was getting tired of elections by now. Goebbels had a hard time getting the Nazi effort up to the same level of a few months earlier.

    In the middle of the campaign, Hitler's girlfriend Eva Braun shot herself in the neck during a suicide attempt. Hitler was still haunted by the suicide of his beloved niece a few years earlier. Eva Braun was deeply in love with Hitler but didn't get the attention she craved. Hitler rushed to the hospital and resolved to look after her from that moment on.

    This distraction served to slow down the already sluggish Nazi campaign. More problems came after Goebbels and a number of Nazis went along with the Communists in a wildcat strike of transport workers in Berlin, thus alienating a lot of middle class voters.

    Bad publicity from siding with the Reds plus the bad publicity Hitler got after his meeting with Hindenburg combined to lose them votes. Adding to all this were the wild antics of the SA. On November 6th, the Nazis lost two million votes and thirty four seats in the Reichstag. It seemed the Nazis were losing momentum. Hitler became depressed.

    But there was still no workable government in Berlin. Papen's position as chancellor was badly weakened. And Schleicher was now at work behind the scenes to further undermine him. On November 17, Papen went to Hindenburg and told him he was unable to form any kind of working coalition, then resigned.

    Two days later, Hitler requested a meeting with Hindenburg. Once again Hitler demanded to be made chancellor. Once again he was turned down. This time however, Hindenburg took a friendlier tone, asking Hitler, soldier to soldier, to meet him half way and cooperate with the other parties to form a working majority, in other words, a coalition government. Hitler said no.

    On November 21st, Hitler saw Hindenburg again and tried a different approach. He read a prepared statement claiming that parliamentary government had failed and that only the Nazis could be counted on to stop the spread of Communism. He asked Hindenburg to make him the leader of a presidential cabinet. Hindenburg said no, and only repeated his own previous requests.

    The Government of Germany had ground to a halt.

    Meanwhile, a group of the country's most influential industrialists, bankers, and business leaders sent a petition to Hindenburg asking him to appoint Hitler as chancellor. They believed Hitler would be good for business.

    Hindenburg was in a terrible bind. He called in Papen and Schleicher and asked them what to do. Papen came up with a wild idea. He would be chancellor again and rule only by decree, eliminate the Reichstag altogether, use the Army and police to suppress all political parties and forcibly amend the constitution. It would be a return to the days of Empire, with the conservative, aristocratic classes ruling.

    Schleicher objected, much to Papen's surprise. Schleicher said that he, not Papen, should head the government and promised Hindenburg he could get a working majority in the Reichstag by causing a rift among the Nazis. Schleicher said he could get Gregor Strasser and as many as 60 Nazi deputies to break from Hitler.

    Hindenburg was dumbfounded and finally turned to Papen and asked him to go ahead and form his government. After Hindenburg left the room, Papen and Schleicher got into a huge shouting match.

    At a cabinet meeting the next day, Schleicher told Papen that any attempt by him to form a new government would bring the country to chaos. He insisted that the Army would not go along and then produced a Major Ott who backed up his claims. Schleicher had been at work behind the scenes to sway the Army to his point of view. Papen was in big trouble.

    He went running to Hindenburg, who, with tears rolling down his cheeks, told Papen there was no alternative at this point except to name Schleicher as the new chancellor.

    "My dear Papen, you will not think much of me if I change my mind. But I am too old and have been through too much to accept the responsibility for a civil war. Our only hope is to let Schleicher try his luck," President Hindenburg told Papen.

    Thus Kurt von Schleicher became Chancellor of Germany on December 2, 1932. There now began an incredible amount of behind-the-scenes political intrigue and backstabbing that would put Hitler in power in only 57 days.

    To begin with, Schleicher made good on his promise to try to split the Nazis. He held a secret meeting with Gregor Strasser, a Nazi who had been with Hitler from the start, and offered him the vice-chancellorship and control of Prussia.

    To Strasser, the offer was quite appealing. The Nazi Party's recent decline, losing millions of votes and now experiencing terrible financial problems, seemed to indicate that Hitler's rigid tactics might not be the best thing for long-term success. Strasser had also acquired a distaste for the brutal men who now made up Hitler's inner circle.

    Through Papen, Hitler found out what was going on. On December 5th, Strasser and his infuriated Führer met, along with other Nazi leaders, in a Berlin hotel. Strasser insisted that Hitler and the Nazis cooperate or at least tolerate the Schleicher government. Göring and Goebbels opposed him. Hitler sided with them against Strasser.

    Two days later, Strasser and Hitler met again and wound up getting into a huge shouting match. Strasser accused Hitler of leading the Party to ruin. Hitler accused Strasser of stabbing him in the back.

    The following day, Strasser wrote a letter to Hitler, resigning all of his duties as a member of the Nazi Party. Hitler and the Nazi leaders were stunned. One of the founding members and most influential leaders had abandoned them. The Nazi Party seemed to be unraveling. Hitler became depressed, even threatening to shoot himself with a pistol.

    Strasser headed for a vacation in Italy.


    "Whatever happens, mark what I say. From now on Germany is in the hands of an Austrian, who is a congenital liar (Hitler), a former officer who is a pervert (Röhm), and a clubfoot (Goebbels). And I tell you the last is the worst of them all. This is Satan in human form," declared Gregor Strasser in 1932.

    As for Hermann Göring:

    "Göring is a brutal egotist who cares nothing for Germany as long as he becomes something."

    Regarding Strasser, Goebbels wrote in his diary: "Strasser is a dead man."

    Hitler assigned his trusted aid, Rudolf Hess, to take over Strasser's duties. Over the Christmas season, Hitler became quite depressed over the failing fortunes of his Party.

    And it seemed to many political observers that the danger of a Hitler dictatorship had passed.

    But the new year brought new intrigue. The big bankers and industrialists who had petitioned Hindenburg on behalf of Hitler still liked the idea of Hitler in power. And Papen was now out to bring down Schleicher. On January 4, 1933, Hitler went to a meeting with Papen at the house of banker Kurt von Schroeder. Papen surprised Hitler by offering to oust Schleicher and install a Papen-Hitler government with himself and Hitler, both equal partners.

    Hitler liked the idea of ousting Schleicher but insisted that he would have to be the real head of government. He would, however, be willing to work with Papen and his ministers. Papen gave in and agreed.

    When Schleicher found out, he went running to Hindenburg, charging Papen with treachery. But Hindenburg had a soft spot for Papen and would not go along.

    Schleicher's position was already badly weakened. He was unable to get the government moving because nobody trusted him enough to join him in a working coalition. The German government remained at a standstill with the people and Hindenburg getting more impatient by the day. Something had to be done. Hindenburg authorized Papen to continue negotiating with Hitler, but to keep it secret from Schleicher.

    In the small German state of Lippe, local elections were scheduled for January 15. Hitler and the Nazis took this opportunity to make a big impression. They saturated the place with propaganda and campaigned heavily, hoping to win big and prove they had regained momentum.

    They received a small increase in votes over their previous election total. But they used their own widely circulated Nazi newspapers to exaggerate the significance and to once again lay claim that Hitler and the Nazis were the wave of the future. It worked well and even impressed President Hindenburg.

    On Sunday, January 22, 1933, a secret meeting was held at the home of Joachim von Ribbentrop. It was attended by Papen, Hindenburg's son Oskar, along with Hitler and Göring. Hitler grabbed Oskar and brought him into a private room and worked on him for an hour to convince him that the Nazis had to be taken into the government on his terms. Oskar emerged from the meeting convinced it was inevitable. The Nazis were to be taken in. Papen then pledged his loyalty to Hitler.

    Next, Schleicher went to Hindenburg with a proposal – declare a state of emergency to control the Nazis, dissolve the Reichstag, and suspend elections. Hindenburg said no.

    But word of this proposal leaked out, bringing Schleicher the wrath of the liberal and centrist parties. Schleicher then backed down, bringing him the wrath of anti-Nazi conservatives. His position was hopeless.

    On January 28th, he went to Hindenburg and asked him once again to dissolve the Reichstag. Hindenburg said no. Schleicher resigned.

    Papen and the president's son, Oskar, moved in on the Old Gentleman to convince him to appoint a Hitler-Papen government. Hindenburg was now a tired old man weary of all the intrigue. He seemed ready to give in. Hitler sensed his weakness and issued an additional demand that four important cabinet posts be given to Nazis.

    This did not set well with the old man and he started having doubts about Hitler as chancellor. He was reassured when Hitler promised that Papen would get one of those four posts.

    On the 29th, a false rumor circulated that Schleicher was about to arrest Hindenburg and stage a military takeover of the government. When Hindenburg heard of this, it ended his hesitation. He decided to appoint Adolf Hitler as the next Chancellor of Germany.

    However, a last minute objection by conservative leader, Alfred Hugenberg, nearly ruined everything. On January 30, while President Hindenburg waited in the other room to give Hitler the chancellorship, Hugenberg held up everything by arguing with the Nazis over Hitler's demand for new elections. He was persuaded by Hitler to back down, or at least let Hindenburg decide. With that settled they all headed into the president's office.

    Around noon on January 30, 1933, a new chapter in German history began as a teary-eyed Adolf Hitler emerged from the presidential palace as Chancellor of the German Nation. Surrounded by admirers, he got into his car and was driven down the street lined with cheering citizens.

    "We've done it! We've done it!" a jubilant Adolf Hitler exclaimed.

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[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Jews seem to be the biggest proponents of the "Hitler was a Jew" canard
The situation is similar to the Jesus thing where it says in the Talmud that Jesus was the bastard son of a Roman soldier, but they tell non-Jews that Jesus was a Jew.
Similarly they tell the stupid lemmings that Hitler was an absolute monster who "killed six million Jews!", but at the same time they tell Jew-wise people that Hitler was a Jew and therefore his ideas shouldn't be taken seriously. it's a pretty standard deception

the proponents of these theories are usually busy attacking any mainstream opposition to the Jew and not doing much else.

[thirdeyewise]

I see you like quoting or sourcing Jack Bernstein, Benjamin Freedman and Harold Rosenthal. They're all Jews......using full-blooded Jews as some of your trusted sources doesn't make much sense.

And even if Hitler were a Jew ethnically, I don't see why it really matters anyway?
Benjamin Freedman was an ex-Jew and he made some very good speeches in the 1960s exposing the tribe. Bobby Fischer is another that comes to mind.

http://www.theforbiddentruth.net/60071-post24.html

I sense deception in you

Why don't you say what you said about Nietzsche being a Jew lover on that post over at the Forbidden Truth. You won't do that, will you?
You know what angle to play at the different forums. Am I right?

And even if Hitler were a Jew ethnically, I don't see why it really matters anyway?

Jew/Jew/Jew/Jew= Jewish conspiracy...get it, Jewish?!

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
—
Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher (1788 – 1860)

I can see you in a couple of years, you will be like this guy on one of the forums:

Yes, far from trying to "kill all the Jews" many in the "Nazi" leadership were Jewish background themselves, and tens of thousands of Jews fought FOR the Reich, including thousands of non-talmudic Jews who fought with the Waffen SS, the greatest all-volunteer fighting force in history, itself founded by a Jew, Emil Maurice!
-   werewolf

[SPECTEC]

Oh, snap...

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Keep in mind:

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Also this, not very "Jewish" is it???

Hirschfeld's institute was burned down by the Nazis on 6 May 1933, in one of their first acts after Hitler seized power.

Sounds like a "non-Jewish" clean up:

Biography

Salten was born Siegmund Salzmann in Budapest, Hungary. When he was three weeks old, his family moved to Vienna, Austria. Many Jews were immigrating into the city in the late 19th century because Vienna had finally granted full citizenship to Jews in 1867.

When his father went bankrupt, Salten had to quit school and begin working in an insurance agency. He also began submitting poems and book reviews to journals. He became part of the Young Vienna movement (Jung Wien) and soon received work as a full-time art and theater critic in the Vienna press. In 1901 he founded Vienna's first, short-lived literary cabaret. In 1900 he published his first collection of short stories. He was soon publishing, on an average, one book a year, of plays, short stories, novels, travel books, and essay collections. He also wrote for nearly all the major newspapers of Vienna. He wrote film scripts and librettos for operettas. In 1927 he became president of the Austrian P.E.N. club.

His most famous work is Bambi (1923). It was translated into English in 1928 and became a Book-of-the-Month Club hit. In 1933, he sold the film rights to director Sidney Franklin for $1,000, and Franklin later transferred the rights to the Walt Disney studios. Disney released its movie based on Bambi in 1942.

Life in Austria became perilous for a prominent Jew in the 1930s. Adolf Hitler had Salten's books banned in 1936. Two years later (1938), after Austria had become part of Germany, Salten moved to Zurich, Switzerland, where he lived until his death.

He was married to the actress Ottilie Metzl, and had two children: Paul and Anna-Katherina. He wrote another book based on the character Bambi, titled Bambi's Children: The Story of a Forest Family (1939). His stories "Perri" and "The Hound of Florence" inspired the Disney films Perri (1957) and The Shaggy Dog (1959).

Salten is now considered to be the anonymous author of the erotic novel Josephine Mutzenbacher (1906), the fictional autobiography of a Vienna prostitute.

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Goring's History (a long read)

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[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

I see you like quoting or sourcing Jack Bernstein, Benjamin Freedman and Harold Rosenthal. They're all Jews......using full-blooded Jews as some of your trusted sources doesn't make much sense.

And even if Hitler were a Jew ethnically, I don't see why it really matters anyway?
Benjamin Freedman was an ex-Jew and he made some very good speeches in the 1960s exposing the tribe. Bobby Fischer is another that comes to mind.

http://www.theforbiddentruth.net/60071-post24.html

I sense deception in you

Why don't you say what you said about Nietzsche being a Jew lover on that post over at the Forbidden Truth. You won't do that, will you?
You know what angle to play at the different forums. Am I right?

lol what a nerd. :ugeek: Did you throw on your inspector clouseau costume before you posted that?  :lol:  A deception about what?
All I said is I wouldn't particularly be concerned if Hitler had some Jewish DNA if that was teh case (which there isn't any evidence for) because there are even examples of full blooded Jews completely against the tribe (bobby fischer) and plenty of 1/2 and 1/4 Jews completely working for Jewish interests (Lenin for example).

One minute you say Hitler is a Jew thus this discredits him, the next minute you are quote mining from one of your Jewish heroes Bernstein, Freedman, Harold Rosenthal and Atzmon.
You can't have it both ways. The slightest Jewish connection makes Hitler a Jew-puppet in your eyes, yet Jews are your favorite "truthers" at the same time. hmmm...

thanks for not answering the question though champ  

and lay off the colored and oversized fonts will ya? coloring books are for children

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Why don't you say what you said about Nietzsche being a Jew lover on that post over at the Forbidden Truth. You won't do that, will you?
You know what angle to play at the different forums. Am I right?

Nietzsche was a Jew-lover. If it had come up I would have gladly stated it.

And your angle is to attack any mainstream opposition to Jewry, whoever and wherever it emerges and discredit credible research on Jews with cartoonish conspiratard-type stuff. You're pretty good at quote mining, I'll give you that.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Jew/Jew/Jew/Jew= Jewish conspiracy...get it, Jewish?!]

More like Shabbas Goi/Shabbas Goi/Shabbas Goi/Goi

[thirdeyewise]

You never fail to turn any discussion into an insult fest. I am not going to play your childish games, you and I are done. I sense something is not right about you. And I'm  not just talking about your immature or narcissistic personality either. Something is definitely off with you!

not very "Jewish" is it???