Gordon Duff Dodges Nazi-Holocaust Interview

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Fester

Carolyn Yeager of The Heretics Hour explains how G-Duff' decided to bail on their interview.  Yeager was to blame according to Duff because  "she doesn't know enough.  She doesn't know enough about the Bushes and the Nazis."   <:^0

I'd like a fat, greasy slice of Righteous Umbrage, too. I was raised on Bush-Cheney-Hitler, and I miss them good ol' days.

Maybe Duff said something else and CY's lying.  Maybe he's been hanging out at Mikey Rivero's (Mikey's got wood for Hitler this week.)  Maybe they're both Jews who just can't bail on the Tribe, 'specially when the Big Lie is starting to take so much flak.  Who knows?:  :^) + :^)

The Heretics' Hour: Gordon Duff, Prescott Bush and the interview that wasn't
http://reasonradionetwork.com/programs/the-heretics%E2%80%99-hour

December 6, 2010 - Radio Show is here http://reasonradionetwork.com/_archive/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_20101206.mp3

Carolyn loses a guest, but gains a new topic to dissect: the the far-too-popular "Bush-Nazi Connection. Topics include:

    * How the Gordon Duff interview collapsed;
    * The Holocaust Industry seeks new sources of revenue;
    * The Thyssen-Hitler connection;
    * The Bankers' interest in the German coal and steel industry;
    * The Truman Hearings and the secret documents;
    * What is this really all about?

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Voltaire speaking of the Jews
"You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables, in bad conduct and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny."

"These marranos go wherever there is money to be made. They are, simply, the biggest scoundrels who have eve

Fester

Here's a link to the Heir to the Holocaust article Heir to the Holocaust Carolyn references http://clamormagazine.org/issues/14/feature3.php.

Boy, I miss them good old days of yammering about Bush-Cheney-Hitler.
Voltaire speaking of the Jews
"You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables, in bad conduct and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny."

"These marranos go wherever there is money to be made. They are, simply, the biggest scoundrels who have eve

CrackSmokeRepublican

Interesting Fester, that Clamour article was written by John Loftus who runs a Holocaust Museum.
He also wrote that book, "Secret War Against the Jews" that makes the US/UK out to kill all the Jews after WWII by siding with the "Nazi International-4th Reichers" that Jim Marrs C2C has made sooo many "Silver Shekels" off of:


QuoteThe Secret War Against the Jews
By John Loftus and Mark Aarons
St. Martin's Press, 1994

$26.95

A book review
By James M. Ennes, Jr.

copyright (c) James M. Ennes, Jr. 1995

One of the first lessons learned by people directly involved in a major media event is that reporters, writers and some who call themselves investigative journalists are often seriously wrong if not irresponsible in what they write. Israel's attack on the USS Liberty is such an event. Much incredible nonsense has been written about Israel's 1967 attack on the American intelligence ship USS Liberty, and The Secret War Against the Jews is a striking example.

John Loftus and Mark Aarons boast a long list of "investigative" reports, mostly about Nazis, Jews, and plots against Jews. The Secret War is one more effort in this growing genre.

According to the authors, "The major powers of the world have repeatedly planned covert operations to bring about the destruction of Israel." During the Six Day War, "The U.S. and British governments, while pretending to be on Israel's side, were giving all of Israel's secrets to the Arabs."

The Secret War Against The Jews presents over 500 pages of print and more than 120 pages of source notes and bibliography to "expose" a long list of mostly-unprovable crimes against the Jewish people and the Jewish state told confidentially by anonymous and unidentifiable "old spies." One chapter, the subject of this report, deals with the USS Liberty, which Israel attempted to sink during the Six Day War.

According to Loftus and Aarons, the most sophisticated intelligence vessel in the world, USS Liberty, was a major player in this secret war against world Jewry. "All of the published versions of the Liberty incident are wrong," they write. "The State Department's Middle East policies had a pronounced anti-Semitic tilt." The only reason the ship was sent to the Sinai coast, they say, was to spy on Israel so that our government could curry favor with Arab leaders.

The Loftus-Aarons version

According to the authors, the USS Liberty was operating near Egypt when she was suddenly removed from Navy control, placed under the direct control of the National Security Agency, and told to "ignore all orders from the Joint Chiefs of Staff" in order to support the Arab war effort against Israel.

Soon the ship was augmented with Hebrew linguists and ordered to steam in circles off the Israeli coast. A major from the National Security Agency, identified as one Alan Blue, was in charge. Blue consulted frequently with Captain McGonagle, the commanding officer, who was forbidden to enter the intelligence spaces.

Liberty's real task, Loftus and Aarons want us to believe, was to monitor the low-power, short-range radio transmissions of Israeli tanks and small infantry units in the desert. Those transmissions were then relayed by satellite to British intelligence teams in Cyprus who, using sophisticated voice print matching equipment, could identify and locate every Israeli unit in the war. British intelligence then relayed this vital information to the Egyptian government.

When the Israelis learned of this treachery, we are told, they asked the United States to explain the presence of an American vessel in the area. But the Americans lied, denying that the ship was American.

To save itself, Israel had no choice but to eliminate the ship. Because Israelis regard all human life as precious, they got approval from the highest levels of government to conduct a pinpoint attack by torpedo on the precise compartment housing the intelligence team. That, they decided, would stop the threat to Israel with the least loss of American lives.

And when the Joint Chiefs, whose orders Liberty had been told to ignore, tried desperately to order the ship away from the area, not a single message got through the ship's sophisticated communication center for two days. Even messages sent at the Navy's highest priority level, code named "Pinnacle," were delayed or lost during this period.

All this is ponderously reported and painstakingly documented with 91 source notes including references to hundreds of "confidential interviews" with anonymous "old spies" and former employees of various intelligence agencies.

The conclusion, attributed to "several" reluctant but typically anonymous Israelis, is that the attack was indeed deliberate, but was a necessary act of self-defense.

Poppycock!

The sad but overwhelming fact is that none of this is true.

The ship did not come from Egypt; it was diverted from the African coast well before the war started. We didn't steam in circles, but on a course parallel to the coast. Nor were we heading "from the direction of Egypt" when "spotted" by the Israelis; on the contrary, we were headed directly toward Egypt. The only "Israeli coast" in sight was land the Israelis had captured just before we arrived.

It is preposterous to believe that we were "removed from Navy control," as these authors claim, or directed to "ignore" orders from the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The truth is, we were always under the direct military control of the local commander who took his orders from the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Washington.

Israel has claimed for years that the US, when asked about the Liberty, denied that the ship was American. That story, repeated here by Loftus and Aarons, is also untrue. On the contrary, Israel never asked about ships in the area until after the attack. Then they falsely claimed in a news conference to have asked days earlier. They never made that claim officially to our government, because any such false claim by the Israeli government would have brought a quick official denial from the Americans.

What about this "NSA Major" who was "in charge"? There was no major. NSA does not bestow military rank. The man in charge was US Navy Lieutenant Commander David Edwin Lewis, who reported to Captain McGonagle. Like any Navy commanding officer, McGonagle had full access to every part of his ship, including the intelligence spaces.

Alan Blue, who is identified as "the major," was in fact a 24- year-old Arab linguist who died in the attack. Blue was a GS7 civilian, just out of the Navy. He had been with the National Security Agency for less than a year. He was a technician. He didn't "consult" with the ship's captain about anything. He had no supervisory authority and never even met the captain.

What about the "Hebrew linguists" we are said to have picked up for the mission? The men we picked up were Russian and Arab linguists. If there was a single Hebrew linguist aboard, no one can recall who he was or what his job might have been.

The fact is, NSA had very few Hebrew linguists and used them sparingly because whenever Israeli supporters in the Congress learned of such things they threatened to cut the agency's budget.

Not a single message got through, including some at the most urgent precedence called "Pinnacle"? Nonsense. Some key orders were lost in overworked relay stations ashore, but this ship sent and received hundreds of messages every day. And "Pinnacle" is not a military communications precedence at all.

The authors want us to believe Israel carefully targeted only the intelligence spaces with a precisely aimed torpedo in order to spare American lives. Yet they couldn't even hit the side of this 550 foot ship with the other four torpedoes, which missed completely.

These authors have the British "downloading" the ship's satellite signals destined for NSA headquarters. Yet the Navy did not yet have satellite communications in 1967, and Liberty's sophisticated lunar relay system was not working.

When attacked, USS Liberty was near the Gaza Strip, moving away from the Israeli coast and toward Egypt. At least one linguist recalls that his orders were to concentrate on Soviet intercepts and to ignore any Israeli signals he happened to hear. "Note the signal and, if it is Israeli, drop it," were the orders. Do not collect, record, or even listen to Israeli signals. That was consistent with NSA policy. The prime target was not Israel.

What was the Liberty really doing?

In 1967, the Soviets were known to have stationed at least five Soviet TU95 Bear bombers in Egypt where they were supposedly flown by Arab pilots. But the US suspected that these were actually Soviet bombers under Soviet control using Soviet pilots. Liberty was asked to determine who controlled those aircraft.

Israel attacked our ship not because of what we were doing, but what they thought we were capable of doing. We were indeed capable of monitoring the war and could probably have detected the scheduled Golan invasion and other Israeli movements if those had been our orders.

The truth is that our primary target may have had nothing to do with the Six Day War at all. Some argue that the war merely provided a cover to explain our presence in the area while our real purpose was to determine who was piloting the Russian Bears.

"Where do they get this stuff?"

"Where do they get this stuff?" several of my shipmates asked after reviewing the Loftus/Aarons chapter on the Liberty? "Do they make it up?"

It would seem so. Many of these fables started with Anthony Pearson in his book "Conspiracy of Silence," published in England in the late 1970s. Pearson asked me to join him in that effort. I refused. Then I learned that he was lying about alliances with a prominent writer, a senator, and a dozen Arab countries. Still later I learned that most of his book was a lie.

Pearson created the "Major Blue" fable and a host of other fairy tales related to the Liberty. Many of the stories lived on, only to be repeated and embellished by others. Pearson is also the creator of the weird story that has an ICBM submarine lying 90 miles off the Israeli coast during the Six Day War, ready to nuke Tel Aviv if the Israelis start to use nuclear weapons against the Arabs. Pearson, sadly, was dying from a brain tumor when he wrote his book. It rendered him paranoid.

He died on the run from the Mossad, which he believed was trying to silence him. He spent his days slipping in and out of London subways to evade his pursuers; he never slept in the same bed twice.

His book reflects his paranoia. Sadly, Pearson's insane musings are constantly picked up and further embellished by other writers who fail to understand just how sick he really was. Then those writers cite one another as sources for their ravings, never bothering with any serious research or verification. Now, Loftus and Aarons bring 25 years of misinformed embellishments together and give them credence with long lists of "confidential sources" whose identities are known only to themselves.

In a very real sense, this is dangerous, because some of what they say will be believed. Innocent people will be frightened for no reason, and that should not happen.

In the end, the only thing Loftus and Aarons seem to have gotten right is the fact that the attack was no accident. Even that, they justify as being "necessary". It was not.

--END--

Author's Bio: James Ennes was an officer on the bridge of the USS Liberty when the ship was attacked. He is the author of "Assault on the Liberty" (Random House 1986; Ballantine paperback 1986) which has sold over 100,000 copies in ten printings by four publishers including the esteemed Random House and Ballantine Books. Ennes doesn't make this stuff up. He was there. He has spent many years verifying details through further research and careful live interviews with eyewitnesses who were also there and with other knowledgeable experts.

http://www.ussliberty.org/secret.htm

QuoteThe Secret War Against the Jews by John Loftus and Mark Aarons
history, St. Martin's Press (hardcover), 1994, 658 pages
reviewed by Deane Rink, deanerink@hotmail.com

Most reviews try to extract facts or anecdotes from the book in question to give a summation of its central thesis, or bring in contradictory evidence to prove the book's unreliability.  The epic sweep and scale of the story told by these authors, the fact that they are working with "soft" evidence from which they draw hard and disturbing conclusions, indeed the essential
unprovability of many of their assertions, argue against this approach in the present case.  The sheer size and multi-generational nature of this Twentieth Century epic almost demand that the entire book be read and carefully digested.  I worked my way through it slowly, consulting every footnote and in some cases, outside sources, to make sure what I was reading made sense and was not explainable by more innocent historical reasoning.  It appears to me that the authors got enough of it right for their central thesis to stand.  Even though it was published eight years ago, it is as relevant today in a post 9/11 world as it ever was during the mid-1990s.

The book's subtitle presents its central thesis: "How Western Intelligence Betrayed the Jewish People."  One of its authors, John Loftus, was a former prosecutor with the U.S. Justice Department's Nazi-hunting unit, and was granted access to classified CIA and NATO archives.  He probably developed the big picture, his central thesis, from his prodecutorial days, and went about filling it in and updating it by interviewing a bevy of old spooks, retired spies from the CIA, MI6, KGB, Mossad, and the French and German intelligence agencies, among others.  Small, independently-verifiable, portions of this larger story have already appeared on CBS News's 60 Minutes and ABC's Prime Time, but this is the first place of which I am aware where a consistent narrative carries through from the discovery of Middle Eastern oil deposits and the rise of Nazism in the 1920s and 1930s to the Intifada and the Persian Gulf War in the 1980s and 1990s.  If a mere ten per cent of what this book alleges is true, Twentieth Century history as written by the victors is a shameful distortion, and my hunch is that a lot more than ten per cent of this book is accurate.

Of course, the question of why retired spooks would talk, and the verifiability of their information when they are granted anonymity, is a valid one.  No doubt many retired intelligence officers are still in the disinformation game, honestly believing that their roles as hidden puppet masters served a higher end, and even those who are cleansing a guilty conscience must be assayed for self-serving statements and exculpatory diversions.  Many of the confidential sources cited herein ae backed up,
however, by newly declassified documents, and build upon assertions already published elsewhere.  What follows is a brief precis.

The modern world begins, the authors suggest, at the end of World War I, when British diplomat/adventurers Jack Philby (father of Soviet spy Kim Philby and legendary Arabist) and Lawrence of Arabia endeavour to unify a bunch of warring Bedouin tribes into nationhood, best represented by Saudi Arabia.  Aware that black gold (oil) lies underneath the desert sands, Philby gingerly befriends Ibn Saud, and makes him the first Saudi king.  But Philby is not solely interested in empire, even his own British one; he is interested in making money, and forges an alliance with an American intelligence agent in charge of Middle Eastern affairs, Allen Dulles.  By the 1930s, Ibn Saud and Philby are secret supporters of the Nazi rise to
political power in Germany, and bring Dulles, a NYC-based corporate lawyer for Sullivan and Cromwell, in on their scheme.  It is a triple game driven by their hatred of Zionism and the Jews, motivated by their obsessive seeking of profits, and designed to completely transform the landscape of the Middle East.  Philby and Dulles convince Ibn Saud to allow limited Jewish immigration to Palestine, assuring him that the numbers will never challenge or upset his control.  When Jews leave Germany, their assets are confiscated by Hitler, who shares a percentage of these with dummy corporations established by Philby, Dulles, and their allies.  Some of this money is used to arm Ibn Saud, and intelligence disclosures to him by Philby enable Ibn Saud to become king of Saudi Arabia over other Arab leaders supported by the British government.  This double-dealing by British and American corporations continues throughout World War II, and incredibly is never halted by the Western allies, who would rather that Dulles stay in place andround up German intelligence agents after World War II's end for the upcoming Cold War against a previous ally, the USSR.  One of the reasons that Jews are so hated by this clique, which includes Rockefeller's Standard Oil, is that many Jews were supporters of the left, anathema to corporate internationalists.

After World War II ended, and the dimensions of the Nazi Holocaust became clear, it was politically impossible for men like these to constrict immigration of the survivors to Palestine, and ultimately impossible for them to stop the formation of the state of Israel.  They tried, as did their successors, but in a delicious irony, some of the very left-wing Jews they detested  discovered these perfidious schemes with the help of the USSR's own intelligence agencies (Remember, the Soviets were the first to get to
Berlin and they seized many Nazi intelligence documents, as well as many Nazi spies themselves).  Also, Soviet intelligence had long used "fascist Jews" to penetrate the inner circles of the Third Reich and assist the USSR in its struggles on the Eastern Front.  Many of these Jews were communist double agents, but others defected to Zionism after the war, and told Israeli founding fathers like David Ben-Gurion of secret deals between the British and the Americans, and the Nazis.  The Zionists blackmailed Dulles's successor in Europe, James Jesus Angleton, to allow Jews to be smuggled into Palestine, and blackmailed the USSR (by threatening to disclose Soviet penetration of the CIA and MI6) so that anti-Semite Joseph Stalin  actually
supported the partition of Israel.  That the nation-building Zionists played just as dirty as the communists and capitalists, the authors assert, is the reason that Israeli historians did not welcome the book's disclosures any more than the other duplicitous parties.

In the first days of Israeli statehood, survival was not assured.  Arms from communist Czechoslovakia helped them win their first war with the surrounding Arabs.  But the early Israeli leaders knew that they could not depend upon the USSR for continued support, so Ben-Gurion politically isolated the communists from his government and warned Angleton, now USA's
intelligence officer for Israel, that Kim Philby (disgusted by his father's anti-British, pro-Nazi leanings, so much so that he himself became a traitor to the UK and a secret convert to communism, even as he rose in the ranks of British intelligence) was a Soviet mole inside MI-6.  Angleton buried these warnings, because subsequent investigation of such charges would have
revealed Angleton's and Dulles's financial collaborations with the Nazis.

During the Eisenhower era, John Foster Dulles became Secretary of State and brother Allen was appointed director of the CIA.  Vice-President Richard Nixon encouraged the immigration to America of European ethnics, Eastern European ex-fascists, who were intended to counterbalance the consistently Democratic-voting American Jews.  Allen Dulles betrayed both Britain and Israel in his push to secure American access to Saudi oil deposits through companies like Aramco.  In fact, a revolving door between the intelligence community and the oil companies that allowed ex-spooks to become oil executives, dictated American Middle East policy, and contributed to Nixon's razor-thin loss to JFK in 1960.  In 1967, while outwardly supporting Israel in its Six Day War against the united Arab armies, both the USA and the UK shared Israeli defense plans with Arab oil producers. This is why the Israelis knocked out the American surveillance ship the USS Liberty, though at the time all sides agreed it was an accident.

Similarly, the official history of the Yom Kippur War of 1973 credits the intervention of an American Jew, Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, with saving Israel by warning off the USSR and airlifting arms to Israel.  Loftus and Aarons provide a different take on this.  In their view (or that of many intelligence officers whom they interviewed), Kissinger was a military incompetent and created a climate for war by sabotaging the Sadat/Rogers peace negotiations because he could not claim credit for these.  Kissinger dithered with intelligence, mobilization, and re-supply, and Israel would have been in serious danger without the intervention of White House chief-of-staff (and ex-military man) Alexander Haig.  Kissinger scapegoated CIA counterintelligence chief James Jesus Angleton for these blunders, forcing Angleton's retirement.

When Reagan was elected, a parallel to the Eisenhower years re-emerges.  Vice-President Bush organized shadow intelligence operations out of his offices, the best established of these being the Iran/Contra arms deal.  Bush dispatched CIA man Bill Buckely to Lebanon in a scheme to kidnap Arab terrorists.  Instead, Buckley himself was seized and held hostage.  Bush
authorized a secret arms shipment to Iran, hoping Iranian pressure on terrorist groups it supported would get Buckley back.  This shipment was unwittingly intercepted by Israel (with the help of Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard), who thought the shipment was destined for the PLO.  Bush was in a tight position, and subsequently hoodwinked Israeli intelligence to assist in this scheme a year later in 1985, and then deflected blame on them so he could preserve his political chances to become president.  Just one more modern example where ill-advised and venal secret schemes make a mockery of the official history.  Bush's intermeddling continued with secret arms sales to Iraq, then a punishing Gulf War against Iraq when Iraq became a bigger
threat than its rival Iran.

While the focus of this book is the secret war against the Jews, it raises larger questions about how clandestine intelligence operations have distorted our appreciation of history and made it nearly impossible for the average citizen to follow rationally his country's foreign policy initiatives.  For this reviewer, it has placed the events of 9/11, the war on Afghanistan and the impending war on Iraq, in a larger, more disturbing perspective and suggests rather sad answers to seemingly logical questions
like: "Why didn't America retaliate against Saudi Arabia (15 of the 19 suicide hijackers in the 9/11 attacks were Saudis) after 9/11?" and "What kind of secret game is George W. Bush and his advisors playing with their post-9/11 saber-rattling?"

I should add one final caveat.  My summary of eighty years' history is cursory at best, and omits much connective tissue and many fascinating ancillary stories.  It also leaves out the massive documentation provided by the authors.  The serious reader is cordially invited to dive in and digest the entire detailed story, and judge its accuracy for himself.
http://www.samizdat.com/rinkreview20.html
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

thirdeyewise

@31:20 she said it was not called the Nazi party; this is wrong.

This claim is also prevalent in many discussion forums.

Quote"Nazism" is a pejorative term. The German National Socialists did not refer to themselves as Nazis.

This is wrong!



QuoteRegarding the tie between the elite Ashkenazi Jew and the Nazis, take a look at the word 'Ashkenazi' - look again 'Ashke-NAZI'. Interesting isn't it?"
- Jack Bernstein The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel (pg 9)


Jews did make up the name. It is easier to scream at somebody "Nazi!!!" than it is to say "You national socialist, you!!!"
This was not done by accident.

Here is proof that the Nazis did call themselves just that. This proof is pretty solid:


A medal put into circulation by the Nazis themselves. You can clearly see the word "Nazi" inscribed on it.
Or maybe you can't. Here, this is better:


See the word "Nazi" to the farthest left?

The authenticity of this medal is without question. It may be purchased at any reputable coin store that carries such memorabilia.
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=357&Lot_No=14352&src=pr

Eustace Mullins has discussed many times what he termed "the grand Nazi scheme."
People need to stop equation the Zionist Nazi government with the German people or you will never be able to connect the dots.


Also, here is Hitler at the infamous Kurt Eisner funeral.

[youtube:2em30wdh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dem2pvU4AjY[/youtube]2em30wdh]

Hitler was an agent for Max Warburg, head of German Army Intelligence!
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

CrackSmokeRepublican

Well, I don't think the old Germans nor those who came after the early Thule societies ever thought of an old Yiddish word for themselves, their political enemies would have basically ridiculed them out of existence if they were to call themselves "Ashkenazim". I think the early National Socialists called themselves "National Socialists" and that's sozialism with a "Z".  I've always seen it as a simple Acronym of the German words. I don't know why people try to connect it to Ashkenazi which is Yiddish for "People of Ashkenaz" and was very UNUSED in Germany past and present.  :think:


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Nazism (Nationalsozialismus, National Socialism; alternatively spelled Naziism[1]) was the ideology and practice of the Nazi Party and of Nazi Germany.[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9] It was a unique variety of fascism that involved biological racism and antisemitism.[10] Nazism presented itself as politically syncretic, incorporating policies, tactics and philosophies from right- and left-wing ideologies; in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics.[11]


Jews in Europe
Jews in the West included some of the Lost Ten Tribes
There had been Jews in the West from the beginning.
Jews were known to be found in Britain, Gaul (present-day France), and also in Germany.
The Jews were probably in Germany before the Romans. Germany in Rabbinical Hebrew is known as Ashkenaz. That is why all European Jews or Jews whose ancestors came from Europe are commonly referred to as Ashkenazim.
A Talmudic Commentator, Solomon Luria (Chochmat Shlomoh, Maharshal, 1510-1574) records the tradition that part of the Ten Tribes were sent into Exile to the "cities of Ashkenaz" meaning the Cities of Germany.  There was a tradition that the Jews of Europe especially those of Germany came from the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel. This tradition however contradicts the plain import of Biblical Prophecies that places the Lost Ten Tribes amongst Western Nations especially those of the British Isles. Details are given in Brit-Am Biblical Proofs
and Secular Evidence.

 It also contradicts major mainstream Talmudic and Rabbinical traditions (e.g. Nachmanides) that agree with Brit-Am findings.
See:
Characteristics of the Tribes According to Rabbinical Sources

http://britam.org/JewsofJudah.html

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Etymology

The self-identification term, used by exponents of the ideology past and present is National Socialism and adherents describe themselves as National Socialists. For instance the best known organisation expousing this system, the German party led by Adolf Hitler was called the National Socialist German Workers Party. Similarly, the second volume of Mein Kampf is entitled The National Socialist Movement.[19] According to Joseph Goebbels in an official exposition of the ideology, the logic behind the synthesis of Nationalism and Socialism as represented in the name, was to "counter the Internationalism of Marxism with the nationalism of a German Socialism".[20]

The term Nazi derives from the first two syllables of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party, NSDAP).[21] Members of the Nazi Party identified themselves as Nationalsozialisten (National Socialists), rarely as Nazis. The German term Nazi parallels the analogous political term Sozi, an abbreviation for a member of the Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands (Social Democratic Party of Germany).[22][23] In 1933, when Adolf Hitler assumed power of the German government, usage of the term Nazi diminished in Germany, although Austrian anti-Nazis used it as an insult.[23]

History
A 1919 Austrian postcard depicting the "stab-in-the-back" legend, which blamed Jews for Germany's defeat in World War I.

Prior to its adoption by the Nazi Party, the term national socialism was coined by French intellectual Maurice Barrès. His rejections of pluralism, individualism and materialism were based on a combination of the anti-Semitism of the counter-revolutionary right, and the socialism, nationalism, and republicanism of the anti-liberal left, in nineteenth-century France.[24] Historian Robert Toombs sees this amalgamation exemplified in General Georges Ernest Boulanger, a general and politician popular among both royalists and the urban left.[25]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

jai_mann

Quote from: "Fester"Maybe Duff said something else and CY's lying.  Maybe he's been hanging out at Mikey Rivero's (Mikey's got wood for Hitler this week.)  Maybe they're both Jews who just can't bail on the Tribe, 'specially when the Big Lie is starting to take so much flak.  Who knows?:  :^) + :^)


I know some people here don't think Duff is jewish but damn it folks he's got their facial traits. Those are jewish lips if I've ever seen 'em. Look up a number of pictures of him and of various jews and make note of the lips.

Facial traits aside, there is the issue of his presentation of issues. The jews are working hard to get new pied pipers in place at all times. When people like Jones lose audience members, the jews try to have other pipers in place for those people to go to. One more reason to vary your sources for material, but to also be aware of the constant attempts to put shabbos goy or crypto-jewish pipers in place.

thirdeyewise

#6
Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"Well, I don't think the old Germans nor those who came after the early Thule societies ever thought of an old Yiddish word for themselves, their political enemies would have basically ridicule them out of existence if they were to be "Ashkenazim". I think the early National Socialists called themselves "National Socialists" and that's sozialism with a "Z".  I've always seen it as a simple Acronym of the German words. I don't know why people try to connect it to Ashkenazi which is Yiddish for "People of Ashkenaz" and was very UNUSED in Germany past and present.  :think:

Nazism (Nationalsozialismus, National Socialism; alternatively spelled Naziism[1]) was the ideology and practice of the Nazi Party and of Nazi Germany.[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9] It was a unique variety of fascism that involved biological racism and antisemitism.[10] Nazism presented itself as politically syncretic, incorporating policies, tactics and philosophies from right- and left-wing ideologies; in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics.[11]


The point I was making is that the National Socialist did in fact refer to themselves as "Nazis". This medal with the word "Nazi" proves as much. If the Nazis did call themselves that then why do people keep insisting they didn't? The proof is right there.

I guess that was not Hitler at that funeral either. Can't wait to hear why the future leader of the Nazi party is attending a Communist funeral.

Was He on a super duper mission? I guess Hitler was the 007 of his day, right?

Never mind the fact his boss at German Army intelligence is a super duper Jew, brother to the super duper Jew at the Federal Reserve. When it comes to Hitler somehow obvious connections are everything but that.

Very weird indeed!

Quote"Hitler's own original proposal for the name of the National Socialist party was "the Social Revolutionary Party"; he described himself as "the executor of Marxism" (not its executioner); and he told Hermann Rauschning that he had built his organization on the model of Communism. I met Hitler once or twice and studied him at close quarters for many years, before and after his rise to power; I believe that no genuinely informative work about him and the part he played has yet appeared."
- Douglas Reed The Controversy of Zion

He once wrote that National Socialism was a "stooge or stalking horse" meant to further the aims of the "Communist Empire."
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

Panoptimist

So the Germans were duped by Zionist Nazis behind Hitler?

And we just got Rick Rolled by Gordon Duff?
The Orthodox Nationalist [11/18/10] - Berdayev and Dostoevsky; Modernism and Materialism; The critique of the bourgeois [Must Listen]
"[W]ithin himself / The danger lies, yet lies within his power]PL[/i] Book IX, ln. 349-356.

thirdeyewise

#8
Not all Whites are Nordic, Germans are Nordic.


Quote"The Nordic race is tall, long-legged, slim, with average height, among males, of about 1.74. The face is narrow, with a rather narrow forehead, a narrow, high-built nose, and a narrow lower jaw and prominent chin. The hair colour is blond."
Hans Gunther, "Short Ethnology of the German People," 1929.




Why is it that none of the top tier Nazis look anything like the average German they are supposed to be representing, i.e.




Funny, how the guy in the Nazi uniform looks more Jewish than the Jew sitting next to Arnold.


"A book stated that as a child Eichmann was persecuted because he looked Jewish."...what do you think?



Come on, do I really need to spend time convincing you that this guy is Jewish?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Clauberg

That guy is a Nordic Aryan; really?

Need some reference points; here you go:



While we are at it; let's see who else we can match to that poster?


Why spend all that time trying to identify the Jew when you are just going to ignore the Jew right in front of you, simply because he got on a spiffy Nazi uniform?

QuoteAnd the ideal Aryan was "as blonde as Hitler, as slim as Goring, as tall as Goebbels, as sharp-eyed as Himmler, as handsome as Hess, as smart as Ribbentropp and was called Rosenberg."

and they look nothing like the average German...yeah right!



[mp3:oxeuge6i]http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Muhammad.Rafeeq/TFC.M.RAFEEQ.12-3-2010.mp3[/mp3:oxeuge6i]
@38:30 DBS discusses this

It seems everyone wants to imagine that in the end Hitler had some grand chess move that he was going to spring on his Jewish handlers, in order to double cross them. That always seems to be the case with Hitler; lots of imagination and excuses on why he did what he did, but very little logic as it concerns the Jewish modus operandi.

If you claim to understand Jewish machinations then apply that knowledge across the board to all areas of history.

QuoteAccording to an OSS profile of the Hitler family, Angela moved to Vienna and after World War I became manager of Mensa Academia Judaica, a boarding house for Jewish students, where she once defended her charges against anti-Semitic rioters.
http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/2010/08/adolf-hitlers-half-sister-angela-hitler.html

Knowing what we know about Jewish supremacy, do you think they would have put his half sister Angela in charge of a Jewish institute for higher learning. Why don't we apply some of that Jewish understanding towards that simple question?

@45:55 this is also discussed in the above audio. Why all the double standards, only when it comes to Hitler?

It's absolutely mind blowing!
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

Fester

Lots of interesting material!  

Can't say I'm able to sort or pass judgment on any.  Leaves me thinking that an enormous amount of work was undertaken to lay down tracks in many contradictory directions on the Nazi history.  

On the far simpler question of why Duff would dodge the interview with such a transparently lame "alternative/progressive" (JEW serving) type of excuse, is there any debate here?  I think Yeager sounds ok and I like her track record and focus.

Absolutely agree that there is a desperate need to concoct new "leaders" as Dogshit Jones is exposed.  Anyone else notice Mikey Rivero's hard-on for Hitler is it just me?  Duff has done some great things, but the Holocaust-Nazi Big Lie is litmus test that must be passed in my opinion.
Voltaire speaking of the Jews
"You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables, in bad conduct and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny."

"These marranos go wherever there is money to be made. They are, simply, the biggest scoundrels who have eve

Panoptimist

Thanks for the info, thirdeyewise. Makes sense to me.

Fester, I agree. Rivero is a shill. The "Big Lie" is a very good litmus test IHMO.
The Orthodox Nationalist [11/18/10] - Berdayev and Dostoevsky; Modernism and Materialism; The critique of the bourgeois [Must Listen]
"[W]ithin himself / The danger lies, yet lies within his power]PL[/i] Book IX, ln. 349-356.

SPECTEC

Incredible...simply incredible...Thanks for the info, indeed.

thirdeyewise

Quote from: "Panoptimist"Thanks for the info, thirdeyewise. Makes sense to me.

It's not only Hitler. Mussolini was surrounded by Jews every step of the way (of course not when he got his head bashed in; they were in Palestine by then)


Here's an historical curiosity; apparently Jewish Fascism was a common phenomenon in Italy.

Two Jewish women featured in Mussolini's rise to power. One was Angelica Balabanoff and the other, Margherita Sarfatti, (his mistress for twenty years, amongst many other women). Both these two were wealthy and revolutionary socialists.


Title: I was wrong. What the heck... Jewish. Patron. Fascist

QuoteThe Duce has a lot to thank me, I have made him what he was." - Margherita Sarfatti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margherita_Sarfatti

Quote"A kind of acute sense of smell impelled me toward gifted people," she wrote in her memoirs, which are really a collection of episodes about her meetings with preeminent world figures, including the inventor Guglielmo Marconi, Pope Pius X, president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Albert Einstein and many others. Israel Zangwill, whom she calls the "Jewish Dickens," and Ze'ev Jabotinsky, the Zionist Revisionist leader, were also among her acquaintances.



QuoteMr. Stille's book is full of surprises and paradoxes. Jews played a prominent role in the unification of Italy in the middle of the 19th century. The ancestors of one of the five Jewish families featured in the book helped to raise money for Giuseppe Garibaldi's expedition to invade Sicily and unite Italy; seven of the legendary Thousand who set sail with Garibaldi were Jews. Later, while France was bitterly divided over the fate of Capt. Alfred Dreyfus, Italian Jews became generals, cabinet ministers and prime ministers. No fewer than 50 Jewish generals served in Italy's Army during World War I. By 1920, the King had appointed 19 Jews to be senators.

Quote"In Italy, Jewish fascism was a real ideological movement, a mass phenomenon as much as that was possible in Italy's tiny Jewish population of 47,000. In 1938, at the beginning of the racial laws, more than 10,000 Jews - about one out of every three Jewish adults - were members of the fascist party."
- Alexander Stille "Benevolence and Betrayal: Five Italian Jewish Families Under Fascism"  By pg 22

QuoteThe closeness of Jews in Italy to Fascism, until in July 1938 Mussolini "embarked on a program of anti-Semitism" is recorded in The Jews of Italy (February 1939) by Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, No. XXIV,

QuotePage 12: "When, in 1925, an attempt was made on Mussolini's life, the Jewish Fascists held a Thanksgiving Service for his escape."

QuotePage 13: "There was a time when certain Jewish circles inclined to the belief that no inherent conflict existed between the essential principles of Judaism and Fascism."

QuotePage 18: "Many of Mussolini's closest associates were Jews. ... Professor Giorgio Del Vecchio was one of the founders of the Fascist party. ... Unless he has recently been outsted, a Jew, Giacomo Cepilli, is the leader of the Fascist forces in Trieste. ... Two Jews, Simon Daus and Gini Bolaffi, are among the 37 Fascist heroes buried in the Italian Panthenon at Florence, a Fascist shrine reserved for those killed defending Fascism. ... Another Jew, Augusto Turati, was the first General Secretary of the Fascist Party."

QuoteThe novelist Girorgio Bassani, author of "Garden of the Finzi-Continis," grew up in Ferrara, a city known for a long tradition of tolerance for Jews. He has said that he does not remember a single Jew who was not a fascist.  


As educated as Jews are, do you think they did not know what fascism was? Jews don't just jump into something unless it is beneficial to them, unless they can control it.

Quote"Is it good for the Jews?'"


It is silly to think that these people would join an organization by the thousands and not be familiar with the benefits to be gained.
Jews are the most politically aware people on this planet; it's an element of their survival.


Quote"Jews are an organized minority. You put 2 Jews in a room, for a week, and at the end of the week you'll have five organizations. There are thousands upon thousands of Jewish organizations that lobby and infiltrate every aspect of our society, and control us."  - Nathaniel Kapner

Quote"There is only one Power which really counts: The Power of Political Pressure. We Jews are the most powerful people on Earth, because we have this power, and we know how to apply it." (Jewish Daily Bulletin, July 27, 1935).



Jews wearing the fascist black shirt uniform



Many socialists and liberals believed Jabo to be the father of Jewish Fascism.  

Quote"When Menachem Begin became chief of Betar, he preferred the brown shirts of the Hitler gangs, a uniform Begin and Betar members wore to all meetings and rallies – at which they greeted each other and opened and closed meetings with the fascist salute." - Ralph Schoenman


Notice the Fascist Black shirts and the Nazi style boots

QuoteMussolini had favoured Zionism for many years. After having founded fascism, primarily motived by imperial rivalry with Britain, he had good relations with Zionist world authorities, especially with Chaim Weizmann, the president of the World Zionist Organization, whom he received on friendly terms several times, for example on 3 January 1923, 17 September 1926 and 17 February 1934, or with Nahum Sokolow, then the chairman of the Zionist Executive.


The first Jewish naval training camp in Civitavecchia, Italy in 1934 was established and manned by Betar.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betar_Naval_Academy

In 1933 the Italian foreign ministry (Mussolini was also foreign minister) began circulating internal policy documents arguing that a strong Jewish state would be in Italy's best interests.

Quote"For Zionism to succeed you need to have a Jewish state, with a Jewish flag and a Jewish language. The person who really understands that is your fascist, Jabotinsky." – Benito Mussolini

The Betar Naval Academy was a Jewish naval training school established in Civitavecchia, Italy in 1934 by the Revisionist Zionist movement under the direction of Ze'ev Jabotinsky, with tha agreement of Benito Mussolini. The titular head of the Academy was the Italian maritime scientist Nicola Fusco but Betar leader Jeremiah Halpern ran the School and was its driving force.


What do you think..."Was it good for the Jews?'"


QuoteBut the Communist soul is the soul of Judaism. Hence it follows that, just as in the Russian revolution the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism, so also in the triumph of fascism will triumph Judaism."
(A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, pp. 143-144).  

Quote"His (God's) intention will be realized through bloody struggles, wars and revolutions; the present social order will be destroyed together with all institutions that are bound up with the present social order. State capitalism and fascism will take the place of the present social order."
(A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 225).

Quote"A fascist is one whose lust for money or power is combined with such an intensity of intolerance toward those of other races, parties, classes, religions, cultures, regions or nations as to make him ruthless in his use of deceit or violence to attain his ends."
— Henry A. Wallace
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

CrackSmokeRepublican

Okay thirdeyewise,

Then what happened?  Hitler, the post WWI "socialist-Soviet marxist" in his early 30s finally woke-up, and lied to everybody for the next 26 years? I think he woke up to "who" was running the show by the early 1920s when the Jewish Bolsheviks were on the march.  It was very easy for people to switch between Communist and National Socialist after WWI.  

Germans of all types did a thorough study of "Germans", "French", "Dutch", "Swiss", "Italians", etc.  The Nazi party merely aped what was popular at the time as per Lothrop Stoddard, who had sold millions of books.  Hitler picked up on Pro-European themes, by non-Jewish authors, long before the Nazis were even on the map.  Germany for the Germans-- even the fat, thin and ugly ones. But don't show them in the propaganda films. And thanks to the Jewish embargo on Germany post WWI, millions of Germans were likely NOT in the best of health.  Europe and America are going to experience their own "German Weimar" by all accounts going right now... who is with the scamming Jews at this point? TIU? Perhaps we need a "Hungary" or Munich 1919 to convert the people who are "undecided" or believe that by "fighting the idiot Jews they are supporting some Zionist long-term end goal".   So then, what really was Hitler -- Crypto-Jew-Zio-wayward Catholic  or a Nationalist who bet big for the nation of Germany in wake of the Jewish Treaty of Versailles... and eventually lost due to the Jewish corruption in the USA? You believe the Nazis were supported by the "Jewish-Rothschilds-Warburgs" like the Bolsheviks or Castro? All in topmost secret?  Zionists leaders probably read "Looking Backward".  I actually think Jabotinsky and the Zio-trooped Israelis look more "Soviet" than Nazi, but hey, most of the people drilling them, fought in WWI. So,  was Hitler a promoter of "the Goyim" or "the Jews"?  Was he "Die Fighting the JewTards" or "Die begging them for scraps??" ... You can't have it both ways ... at root Hitler was a politician and the Nazis were a "political" party.... and they played the hand they held.  If the Jews hadn't created WWI, Hitler would have remained a House painter and fountain artist... but in desperate times, people live on dreams.  And with the JewTards screwing up big-time these days, people are getting "other" ideas. Ideas without the "Jew".  

FInally look at Asia, where Jews behind the post WWII non-communist Nationalist dictators of Taiwan, Singapore, Indonesia, South Korea? Jews were certainly supplying revolution in China. What makes Hitler or Mussolini for that matter so unusual and a part of the Zionists, when they were trying to salvage their rapidly decaying countries from Jewish Marxism, Socialism, capitalism?  Obviously, "Nazi" and "Ashekenazi" via etymology have nothing to do with each other, yet for some reason are tossed around here so quickly.  
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Here's his own words:
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QuoteMUNICH

SPEECH OF APRIL 13, 1923

    . . . IN OUR view, the times when there was no 'League of Nations' were far more honorable and more humane.... We ask: 'Must there be wars?' The pacifist answers 'No!' He proceeds to explain that disputes in the life of peoples are only the expression of the fact that a class has been oppressed by the ruling bourgeoisie. When there are in fact differences of opinion between peoples, then these should be brought before a 'Peace Court' for its decision. But he does not answer the question whether the judges of this court of arbitration would have the power to bring the parties before the bar of the court. I believe that an accused ordinarily only appears 'voluntarily' before a court because, if he did not, he would be fetched there.

    I should like to see the nation which would allow itself to be brought before this League of Nations Court in the case of a disagreement without external force. In the life of nations, what in the last resort decides questions is a kind of Judgment Court of God. It may even happen that in case of a dispute between two peoples - both may be in the right. Thus Austria, a people of fifty millions, had most certainly the right to an outlet to the sea. But since in the strip of territory in question the Italian element of the population was in the majority, Italy claimed for herself the 'right of self-determination.' Who yields voluntarily? No one! So the strength which each people possesses decides the day. ALWAYS BEFORE GOD AND THE WORLD THE STRONGER HAS THE RIGHT TO CARRY THROUGH WHAT HE WILLS.

    History proves: He who has not the strength - him the 'right in itself' profits not a whit. A world court without a world police would be a joke. And from what nations of the present League of Nations would then this force be recruited? Perhaps from the ranks of the old German Army? THE WHOLE WORLD OF NATURE IS A MIGHTY STRUGGLE BETWEEN STRENGTH AND WEAKNESS - AN ETERNAL VICTORY OF THE STRONG OVER THE WEAK. There would be nothing but decay in the whole of Nature if this were not so. States which should offend against the elementary law would fall into decay. You need not seek for long to find an example of such mortal decay: you can see it in the Reich of today....

    . . . Before the war two States, Germany and France, had to live side by side but only under arms. It is true that the War of 1870-1 meant for Germany the close of an enmity which had endured for centuries, but in France a passionate hatred against Germany was fostered by every means by propaganda in the press, in school textbooks, in theaters, in the cinemas. . . . All the Jewish papers throughout France agitated against Berlin. Here again to seek and to exploit grounds for a conflict is the clearly recognizable effort of world Jewry.

    The conflict of interests between Germany and England lay in the economic sphere. Up till 1850 England's position as a World Power was undisputed. British engineers, British trade conquer the world. Germany, owing to greater industry and increased capacity, begins to be a dangerous rival. In a short time those firms which in Germany were in English hands pass into the possession of German industrialists. German industry expands vastly and the products of that industry even in the London market drive out British goods.

    The protective measure, the stamp 'Made in Germany,' has the opposite effect from that desired: this 'protective stamp' becomes a highly effective advertisement. The German economic success was not created in Essen alone but by a man who knew that behind economics must stand power, for power alone makes an economic position secure. This power was born upon the battlefields of 1870-71, not in the atmosphere of parliamentary chatter. Forty thousand dead have rendered possible the life of forty millions. When England, in the face of such a Germany as this, threatened to be brought to her knees, then she bethought herself of the last weapon in the armory of international rivalry - violence. A press propaganda on an imposing scale was started as a preparatory measure.

    But who is the chief of the whole British press concerned with world trade? One name crystallizes itself out of the rest: Northcliffe - a Jew! . . . A campaign of provocation is carried on with assertions, libels, and promises such as only a Jew can devise, such as only Jewish newspapers would have the effrontery to put before an Aryan people. And then at last 1914: they egg people on: 'Ah, poor violated Belgium! Up! To the rescue of the small nations - for the honor of humanity!' The same lies, the same provocation throughout the entire world! And the success of that provocation the German people can trace grievously enough!

    WHAT CAUSE FINALLY HAD AMERICA TO ENTER THE WAR AGAINST GERMANY? WITH THE OUTBREAK OF THE WORLD WAR, WHICH JUDAH HAD DESIRED SO PAASSIONATELY AND SO LONG, ALL THE LARGE

    JEWISH FIRMS OF THE UNITED STATES BEGAN SUPPLYING AMMUNITIONS. They supplied the European 'war-market' to an extent which perhaps even they themselves had never dreamed of - a gigantic harvest! Yet nothing satisfied the insatiable greed of the Jew. And so the venal press which depended upon the Stock Exchange kings began an unparalleled propaganda campaign. A GIGANTIC ORGANIZATION FOR NEWSPAPER LYING WAS BUILT UP. AND ONCE MORE IT IS A JEWISH CONCERN, THE HEARST PRESS, WHICH SET THE TONE OF THE AGITATION AGAINST GERMANY.

    The hatred of these 'Americans' was not directed solely against commercial Germany or against military Germany. It was directed specially against social Germany, because this Germany had up to that time kept itself outside of the principles which governed the world trusts. The old Reich had at least made an honorable attempt to be socially-minded. We had to show for ourselves such an initiative in social institutions as no other country in the wide world could boast. . . . This explains why, even in Germany itself, the 'comrades' under Jewish leadership fought against their own vital interests. This explains the agitation carried on throughout the world under the same watchword.

    For this reason the Jewish-democratic press of America had to accomplish its masterpiece - that is to say, it had to drive into the most horrible of all wars a great peace-loving people which was as little concerned in European struggles as it was in the North Pole: America was to intervene 'in defense of civilization,' and the Americans were persuaded so to do by an atrocity propaganda conducted in the name of civilization which from A to Z was a scandalous invention the like of which has never yet been seen - a farrago of lies and forgeries. Because this last State in the world where social aims were being realized had to be destroyed, therefore twenty-six peoples were incited one against the other by this press which is exclusively in the possession of one and the same world people, of one and the same race, and that race on principle the deadly foe of all national States.

    Who could have prevented the World War? Not the Kul- tursolidarität, the 'solidarity of civilization,' in whose name the Jews carried on their propaganda: not the so-called World Pacifism - again an exclusively Jewish invention. Could the so-called 'Solidarity of the Proletariat?' . . . All the wheels stand silent, still, If that be your strong arm's will.... The German wheel on November 9, 1918, was indeed brought to a standstill. The Social Democratic party in its principal organ, Vorwärts, declared in so many words that it was not in the interest of the workers that Germany should win the war. . .

    Could the Freemasons perhaps stop the war? - this most noble of philanthropic institutions who foretold the good fortune of the people louder than anyone and who at the same time was the principal leader in promoting the war. Who, after all, are the Freemasons? You have to distinguish two grades. To the lower grade in Germany belong the ordinary citizens who through the claptrap which is served up to them can feel themselves to be 'somebodies,' but the responsible authorities are those many-sided folk who can stand any climate, those 300 Rathenaus who all know each other, who guide the history of the world over the heads of Kings and Presidents, those who will undertake any office without scruples, who know how brutally to enslave all peoples - once more the Jews!

    Why have the Jews been against Germany? That is made quite clear today - proved by countless facts. They use the age-old tactics of the hyena - when fighters are tired out, then go for them! Then make your harvest! In war and revolutions the Jew attained the unattainable. Hundreds of thousands of escaped Orientals become modern 'Europeans.' Times of unrest produce miracles. Before 1914 how long would it have taken, for instance, in Bavaria before a Galician Jew became - Prime Minister? - Or in Russia before an anarchist from the New York Ghetto, Bronstein (Trotsky), became - Dictator? Only a few wars and revolutions - that was enough to put the Jewish people into possession of the red gold and thereby to make them masters of the world.

    Before 1914 there were two States above all, Germany and Russia, which prevented the Jew from reaching his goal - the mastery of the world. Here not everything which they already possessed in the Western democracies had fallen to the Jews. Here they were not the sole lords alike in the intellectual and economic life. Here, too, the Parliaments were not yet exclusively instruments of Jewish capital and of the will of the Jew. The German and the genuine Russian had still preserved a certain aloofness from the Jew. In both peoples there still lived the healthy instinct of scorn for the Jew, and there was a real danger that in these monarchies there might one day arise a Frederick the Great, a William I, and that democracy and a parliamentary regime might be sent to the devil.

    So the Jews became revolutionaries! The Republic should bring them to wealth and to power. This aim they disguised: they cried 'Down with the monarchies!' 'Enthrone the sovereign people!' I do not know whether today one could venture to call the German or the Russian people 'sovereign.' At least one cannot see any trace of it! What the German people can trace, however, what every day stands in the most crass form before its eyes, is debauchery, gluttony, speculation ruling unchecked, the open mockery of the Jew....

    So Russia and Germany had to be overthrown in order that the ancient prophecy might be fulfilled. So the whole world was lashed into fury. So every lie and propaganda agency was brutally set in action against the State of the last - the German - idealists! AND THUS IT WAS THAT JUDAH WON THE WORLD WAR. OR WOULD YOU WISH TO MAINTAIN THAT THE FRENCH, THE ENGLISH, OR THE AMERICAN 'PEOPLE' WON THE WAR? THEY, ONE AND ALL, VICTORS AND VANQUISHED ARE ALIKE DEFEATED: one thing raises itself above them all: the World Stock Exchange which has become the master of the people.

    WHAT GUILT HAD GERMANY HERSELF FOR THE OUTBREAK OF THE WAR? HER GUILT CONSISTED IN THIS: THAT AT THE MOMENT WHEN THE RING CLOSED ABOUT HER EXISTENCE GERMANY NEGLECTED TO ORGANIZE HER DEFENSE WITH SUCH VIGOR THAT THROUGH THIS DEMONSTRATION OF HER POWER EITHER THE OTHERS, DESPITE THEIR ABOMINABLE PURPOSES, WOULD HAVE BEEN ROBBED OF THEIR WILL TO STRIKE, OR ELSE THE VICTORY OF THE REICH WOULD HAVE BEEN ASSURED.

    The guilt of the German people lies in this: that when in 1912 a criminal Reichstag in its unfathomable baseness and folly had refused to allow the raising of three army corps the people did not create for itself those army corps in the Reichstag's despite. With these additional 120,000 men the Battle of the Marne would have been won and the issue of the war decided. Two million fewer German heroes would have sunk into their graves. Who was it who in 1912 as in 1918 struck its weapons from the hands of the German people? Who was it that in 1912, as in the last year of the war, infatuated the German people with his theory that if Germany throws down her arms the whole world will follow her example - who? - the democratic-Marxist Jew, who at the same hour incited and still today incites the others to arm and to subjugate 'barbarous' Germany.

    But someone may perhaps yet raise the question whether it is expedient today to talk about the guilt for the war. Most assuredly we have the duty to talk about it! For the murderers of our Fatherland who all the years through have betrayed and sold Germany, they are the same men who, as the November criminals, have plunged us into the depths of misfortune. We have the duty to speak since in the near future, when we have gained power, we shall have the further duty of taking these creators of ruin, these clouts, these traitors to their State and of hanging them on the gallows to which they belong. Only let no one think that in them there has come a change of heart. On the contrary, these November scoundrels who still are free to go as they will in our midst, they are, even today, going against us. From the recognition of the facts comes the will to rise again. Two millions have remained on the field of battle. They, too, have their rights and not we, the survivors, alone. There are millions of orphans, of cripples, of widows in our midst. They, too, have rights. For the Germany of today not one of them died, not one of them became a cripple, an orphan, or a widow. We owe it to these millions that we build a new Germany!

http://www.hitler.org/speeches/04-13-23.html

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How about Maurice Barres, the French Nationalist, "a crypto-Zio Jew????". No.  For some reason, people want to have their Anti-Zionist "Cake" and "eat" it with Anti-Jewish/Rightist organizations.  Sorry but Anti-Jewish/Rightist organizations and politics existed long before the meeting at Basel and long before Lenin's team started robbing banks.  First hand experience with the lies and treacheries tends to erase "Secondary doubts".
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Born at Charmes, Vosges, he received his secondary education at the lycée of Nancy, and in 1883 continued his legal studies in Paris. Establishing himself at first in the Quartier Latin, he became acquainted with Leconte de Lisle's cenacle and with the symbolists in the 1880s, even meeting Victor Hugo once.[1][2] He had already started contributing to the monthly periodical, Jeune France (Young France), and he now issued a periodical of his own, Les Taches d'encre, which survived for only a few months. After four years of journalism he settled in Italy, where he wrote Sous l'œil des barbares (1888), the first volume of a trilogie du moi (also called Le Culte du moi or The Cult of the Self), completed by Un Homme libre (1889), and Le Jardin de Bérénice (1891). The Cult of the Self trilogy was influenced by Romanticism, and also made an apology of the pleasure of the senses.

He supplemented these apologies for his narcissism with L'Ennemi des lois (1892), and with an admirable volume of impressions of travel, Du sang, de la volupté, de la mort (1893). Barrès wrote his early books in an elaborate and often very obscure style.

The Comédie Française produced his play Une Journée parlementaire in 1894. A year after establishing himself in Neuilly, he began his trilogy in 1897, Le Roman de l'énergie nationale (Novel of the National Energy), with the publication of Les Déracinés.[2] In this second major trilogy, he superated his early individualism with a patriot fidelity to the fatherland and an organicist conception of the nation (See below for details).[1] Affected by the Dreyfus Affair, and finding himself on the side of the Anti-Dreyfusards, Barrès played a leading role alongside Charles Maurras, which initiated his shift to the political right; Barrès oriented himself towards a lyrical form of nationalism founded on the cult of the earth and the dead ("la terre et les morts", "earth and the dead" — see below for details).[1]

The Roman de l'énergie nationale trilogy makes a plea for local patriotism, militarism, the faith to one's roots and to one's family, and for the preservation of the distinctive qualities of the old French provinces. Les Déracinés narrates the adventures of seven young Lorrainers who set out to conquer fortune in Paris. Six of them survive in the second novel of the trilogy, L'Appel au soldat (1900), which gives the history of Boulangism; the sequel, Leurs figures (1902), deals with the Panama scandals. Later works include:

    * Scènes et doctrines du nationalisme (1902)
    * Les Amitiés françaises (1903), in which he urges the inculcation of patriotism by the early study of national history
    * Ce que j'ai vu à Rennes (1904)
    * Au service de l'Allemagne (1905), the experiences of an Alsatian conscript in a German regiment
    * Le Voyage de Sparte (1906).

He presented himself in 1905 to the Académie française, but was supplanted by Etienne Lamy. He then tried again, but inclined himself before the candidacy of the former Minister Alexandre Ribot. But he was finally elected the next year, gaining 25 voices against 8 to Edmond Hauraucourt and one to Jean Aicart on 25 January 1906.[1]

Barrès was also a friend since his youth of the occultist Stanislas de Guaita, and was attracted by Asia, sufism and shi'ism. But he returned in his later years to the Catholic faith, engaging in L'Echo de Paris a campaign in favor of the restoration of the churches of France. His son Philippe Barrès followed him in a journalism career.

Political activism

As a young man, Barrès carried his Romantic and individualist theory of the Ego into politics as an ardent partisan of General Boulanger, locating himself in the more populist side of the heterogenous Boulangist coalition.[3] He directed a Boulangist paper at Nancy, and was elected deputy in 1889, at the age of 27, under a platform of "Nationalism, Protectionism, and Socialism",[4] retaining his seat in the legislature until 1893, when he was defeated under the etiquette of "National Republican and Socialist" (Républicain nationaliste et socialiste).[2] From 1889, Barrès' activism overshadowed his literary activities, although he tried to maintain both.[3]

He shifted however to the right-wing during the Dreyfus Affair, becoming a leading mouthpiece, alongside Charles Maurras, of the Anti-Dreyfusard side.[1] The Socialist leader Léon Blum tried to convince him to join the Dreyfusards, but Barrès refused and wrote several antisemitic pamphlets. He accused Alfred Dreyfus of being guilty because of his Jewishness.[5] Barrès' antisemitism found its roots both in the pseudo-scientific racist contemporary theories and on Biblical exegesis.[5]

He founded the short-lived review La Cocarde (The Cockade) in 1894 (September 1894 - March 1895[6]) to defend his ideas, attempting to bridge the gap between the far-left and the far-right.[3] The Cocarde, nationalist, anti-parliamentarist and xenophobic, included a diverse collection of contributors from a wide variety of backgrounds (monarchists, socialists, anarchists, Jews, Protestants[2]), including Frédéric Amouretti, Charles Maurras, René Boylesve and Fernand Pelloutier.[4]

He was again beaten during the 1896 elections in Neuilly, as a candidate of the Socialist leader Jean Jaurès, and then again in 1897 as a nationalist antisemitic candidate, having broken with the left-wing during the Dreyfus Affair.[2]

Barrès then assumed the leadership of the Ligue de la Patrie française (League of the French Fatherland), before taking membership in the Ligue des Patriotes (Patriot League) of Paul Déroulède. In 1914, he became the leader of the Patriot League.[1]

Close to the nationalist writer Charles Maurras, founder of the monarchist Action française movement, Barrès refused however to endorse monarchist ideas, although he demonstrated sympathy throughout his life for the Action française. Most of the later monarchist theorists (Jacques Bainville, Henri Vaugeois, Léon Daudet, Henri Massis, Jacques Maritain, Georges Bernanos, Thierry Maulnier...) have recognized their debt toward Barrès, who also inspired several generations of writers (among which Montherlant, Malraux, Mauriac and Aragon).

Barrès was elected deputy of the Seine in 1906, and retained his seat until his death. He sieged at that time among the Entente républicaine démocratique conservative party. In 1908, he opposed in Parliament his friend and political opponent Jean Jaurès, refusing the Socialist leader's will to Pantheonize the writer Emile Zola. Despite his political views, he was one of the first to show his respect to Jaurès' remains after his assassination on the eve of World War I.

During World War I, Barrès was one of the proponents of the Union sacrée, which earned him the nickname "nightingale of bloodshed" ("rossignol des carnages"[3]). The Canard enchaîné satirical newspaper called him the "chief of the brainwashers' tribe" ("chef de la tribu des bourreurs de crâne").[1] His personal notes showed however that he himself did not always believe in his purported war optimism, being at times close to defeatism. Barrès also partly came back on his youthness' [THIS WORD IS NOT IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE] mistakes during the war, by paying tribute to French Jews in Les familles spirituelles de la France, where he placed them as one of the four elements of the "national genius", alongside Traditionalists, Protestants and Socialists — thus opposing himself to Maurras who saw in them the "four confederate states" of "Anti-France".

After World War I, Barrès was involved with irredentist forces in Luxembourg, and sought to increase French influence in the Rhineland. On 24 June 1920, the National Assembly adopted his draft aiming to establish a national day in remembrance of Joan of Arc.

Nationalism

Barrès is considered, alongside Charles Maurras, as one of the main thinkers of ethnic nationalism at the turn of the century in France, associated with Revanchism — the desire to reconquer the Alsace-Lorraine, annexed by the newly created German Empire at the end of the 1871 Franco-Prussian War (Barrès was aged 8 at that time). In fact, he himself popularized the word "nationalism" in French.[3]

This has been noted by Zeev Sternhell,[7] Michel Winock (who titled the first part of his book, Le Siècle des intellectuels, "Les Années Barrès" ("The Barrès' Years"), followed by Les Années André Gide and Les Années Jean-Paul Sartre),[8] Pierre-André Taguieff,[9] etc. He shared as common points with Paul Bourget his disdain for utilitarianism and liberalism.[3]

Opposed to Jean-Jacques Rousseau's theory of social contract, Barrès considered the 'Nation' (which he used to replace the 'People') as already historically founded: it did not need a "general will" to establish itself, thus also contrasting with Ernest Renan's definition of the Nation.[10] Much closer to Herder and Fichte than to Renan in his definition of the Nation, Barrès opposed French centralism (as did Maurras), as he considered the Nation to be a multiplicity of local allegiances, first to the family, the village, the region, and ultimately to the nation-state.[10] Influenced by Edmund Burke, Frédéric Le Play and Hippolyte Taine, he developed an organicist conception of the Nation which contrasted with the universalism of the 1789 Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen.[10] According to Barrès, the People is not founded by an act of autonomy, but find its origins in the earth (le sol), history (institutions, life and material conditions) and traditions and inheritance ("the dead").[10] His early individualism was quickly superated by an organicist theory of the social link, in which "the individual is nothing, society is everything"[11]).

Barrès feared miscegenation of modern times, represented by Paris, claiming against Michelet that it jeopardized the unity of the Nation.[12] The Nation was to be balanced between various local nationalities (he spoke of the "Lorraine nationality" as much as of the "French nationality"[10]) through decentralisation and the call for a leader, giving a Bonapartist aspect to his thought which explained his attraction for the General Boulanger and his opposition to liberal democracy.[10] He pleaded for a direct democracy and personalisation of power, as well as for the implementation of popular referendums as done in Switzerland.[10] In this nationalist frame, anti-Semitism was to be the cohesive factor for a right-wing mass movement.[10]

Dada and Barrès

The Dadaists organized in spring 1921 the trial of Barrès, charged of "attempt against the surety of the spirit" ("attentat à la sûreté de l'esprit") and sentenced him to 20 years of forced labour. This fictitious trial also marked the dissolving of Dada, its founders, among whom was Tristan Tzara, refusing any form of justice even if organized by Dada.
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

jai_mann

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"Eustace Mullins has discussed many times what he termed "the grand Nazi scheme."
People need to stop equation the Zionist Nazi government with the German people or you will never be able to connect the dots.


Also, here is Hitler at the infamous Kurt Eisner funeral.

[youtube:1e2q2i5m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dem2pvU4AjY[/youtube]1e2q2i5m]

Hitler was an agent for Max Warburg, head of German Army Intelligence!

That video seems somewhat sketchy. I don't feel comfortable with the "zooming" in on this nobody at the back of a block of soldiers, who facial traits come through with unrealistic clarity. Hitler's background is pretty sketchy itself, which makes me think he had some sort of intel job and was moved through the ranks over time, just as Obama, or some other puppet. The video may be legit, but be careful about trusting what you see with your eyes.  Illusionists love to take advantage of our senses.

jai_mann

Quote from: "Fester"Absolutely agree that there is a desperate need to concoct new "leaders" as Dogshit Jones is exposed.  Anyone else notice Mikey Rivero's hard-on for Hitler is it just me?  Duff has done some great things, but the Holocaust-Nazi Big Lie is litmus test that must be passed in my opinion.

Ain't that a bitch for the Jews? That means that to put new leaders out there, to try to reclaim those who need a piper, they must CEDE massive ground in the propaganda war. They will do what they need to do, as we have all seen, "by any means necessary" is how they work. But, when they cede that ground, the dam is starting to break. And every single one of us should be sure that we keep various litmus tests in place, so as to nail the pipers they place out before us on some other issue. It might not even be an issue of discussing facts. It may be an issue of other forms of ACTION. These parasites will never leave us alone, but we can significantly decrease their power over us by not using their central banking currencies. These currencies are crippling the productively of non-jews.

Fester

Agreed.  9/11 and the Holocaust are the biggest as they lead directly to an indictment of the perpetrators.  From these it follows that the media system (and academia) have been infested and covering up the truth.  When the sheeple ask "how come?" it ends up at the banking system.  At least in one scenario.

They are desperate.   Some say the historical record isn't important or it's a matter of personal preference whether we push it or not.

Would Hardwood Mikey Rivero peddle twaddle like this if he cared about the historical truth of the criminals?

QuoteTHOUGHT FOR THE DAY! - "History is the history of war -- of leaders of countries finding reasons and rationals to send the young people off to fight."-- John Stockwell, former CIA official and author

Who gives a fuck what some CIA shill says about history since it's obvious he doesn't know jack.

Mikey also pushes the "McCarthyism" booga-booga hard.  That's a Jewish firewall to try to keep the sheeple from ever demanding a "witchhunt" to clean the nation of parasites.  Mikey's a real hula hoop kinda guy.  Wiggles left, wiggles right, wiggles round and round.
Voltaire speaking of the Jews
"You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables, in bad conduct and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny."

"These marranos go wherever there is money to be made. They are, simply, the biggest scoundrels who have eve

thirdeyewise

Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"I actually think Jabotinsky and the Zio-trooped Israelis look more "Soviet" than Nazi, but hey, most of the people drilling them, fought in WWI.

Of course you would see it that way, no surprises there. Never mind all the quotes I posted where the Jews are glorifying fascism.
Quotes + uniforms = Fascism...so simple!


Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"So, was Hitler a promoter of "the Goyim" or "the Jews"? Was he "Die Fighting the JewTards" or "Die begging them for scraps??" ... You can't have it both ways .

What both ways, the idea I present is pretty straight forward, it only goes one way.


Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"at root Hitler was a politician and the Nazis were a "political" party.... and they played the hand they held.  

Politicians: They follow the script they are given.




Politicians are paid actors!



Did it ever occur to you that this Jewish psychic was so accurate in his predictions (especially the Reichstag fire) because he was a Jew and he knew exactly what the Jews were going to do? No different than a Jew having forehand knowledge of 911.

If it were simply one or two things we would not even be having this discussion. There are a multitude of connections with Hitler and organized Jewry. And of course a multitude of excuses!

I could post at least 25 to 50 intimate connections to organized Jewry. But when it comes to Hitler, some people seem more interested in protecting the dots than connecting them.



Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"FInally look at Asia, where Jews behind the post WWII non-communist Nationalist dictators of Taiwan, Singapore, Indonesia, South Korea? Jews were certainly supplying revolution in China. What makes Hitler or Mussolini for that matter so unusual and a part of the Zionists, when they were trying to salvage their rapidly decaying countries from Jewish Marxism, Socialism, capitalism?

That's the problem right there. In one instance Jewish connections mean exactly what they are (Jewish manipulation in order to control the outcome) but when it comes to Hitler or Mussolini then the standard changes. Now Jewish connections have a whole different meaning.


Quote from: "thirdeyewise"If you claim to understand Jewish machinations then apply that knowledge across the board to all areas of history.  


How about a simple explanation to a simple question:

QuoteAccording to an OSS profile of the Hitler family, Angela moved to Vienna and after World War I became manager of Mensa Academia Judaica, a boarding house for Jewish students, where she once defended her charges against anti-Semitic rioters.
http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/2010/08/adolf-hitlers-half-sister-angela-hitler.html

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"Knowing what we know about Jewish supremacy, do you think they would have put his half sister Angela in charge of a Jewish institute for higher learning. Why don't we apply some of that Jewish understanding towards that simple question?  


Quote from: "thirdeyewise"This Nazi is he Jewish or Aryan?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Clauberg  


Very simple questions to a Jew wise person. The answers require almost no thinking - except of course, when it pertains to the Nazis, that requires specialized thinking.


Why is it that with Hitler you have to re-emphasize, re-explain and re-articulate simple concepts, but had it been the soviets, you would have understood right away what the Jewish connections meant.


Quote"The idea that perceptions can be manipulated by expectations is fundamental to the study of cognition" - Michael Posner, PH.D., University of Oregon neuroscientist


Good or Evil?
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

Panoptimist

I find it ironic, given your post(s), that the "evil" is white filled. Could have done a simple color invert, if even for us on TIU.  :crazy:

Maybe that's why some Jew wise europeans don't want to give Hitler up so easily - on the surface he represents the most organised resistance against them.

But with the info you've posted, and Hexzanes thread I'm starting to have a whole new perspective.

So tell me, what do I need to keep in mind when reading Irving's bio of him? That its white lies?
The Orthodox Nationalist [11/18/10] - Berdayev and Dostoevsky; Modernism and Materialism; The critique of the bourgeois [Must Listen]
"[W]ithin himself / The danger lies, yet lies within his power]PL[/i] Book IX, ln. 349-356.

SPECTEC

dude...are we being watched?

check out Makow's latest update...there goes that Illuminati "menorah glow" again...
http://www.henrymakow.com/
http://www.nyapolitiken.biz/frimurare_o ... n-sade.pdf

Panoptimist

Weird.

Though it appears he didn't write ANY of that.

I REALLY want a copy of that translation.
The Orthodox Nationalist [11/18/10] - Berdayev and Dostoevsky; Modernism and Materialism; The critique of the bourgeois [Must Listen]
"[W]ithin himself / The danger lies, yet lies within his power]PL[/i] Book IX, ln. 349-356.

Panoptimist

thirdeye, so im guessing you're all about this http://intheknow7.wordpress.com/mk-ultr ... asic-info/ :




MK-Ultra Monarch Program was being perfected by Dr. Joseph Mengele (Dr. Green, Angel of Death) under Wild Bill Donovan, Allen Dulles OSS (Office of Secret Service and  forerunner to CIA) British Intel MI6 and top SS Nazi officer Heinrich Himmler — conducted in Nazi concentration camps under general description of "experiments"...downplaying the "purpose" of the sadistic nature of what he, along w/other madmen were indeed creating —  "a master race"...yes, they achieved their goal! The nonsense about "blond haired, blue-eyed" was a cover spread by unified Intel agencies,  to conceal the pervasiveness of this evil program – It is much easier to control people w/ one of their own, than someone of a different ethnicity. Countless subjects died under Sigmund Freud, Mengele, Himmler's  brutal "mind science horrors...
The Orthodox Nationalist [11/18/10] - Berdayev and Dostoevsky; Modernism and Materialism; The critique of the bourgeois [Must Listen]
"[W]ithin himself / The danger lies, yet lies within his power]PL[/i] Book IX, ln. 349-356.

thirdeyewise

Quote from: "Panoptimist"thirdeye, so im guessing you're all about this http://intheknow7.wordpress.com/mk-ultr ... asic-info/ :

How did you go from what I wrote to Mk-ultra?
and what's with the pasted on head on that picture?
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

CrackSmokeRepublican

ThirdeyeWise,

Look, you want to pin the whole National Socialism-Fascism in Italy and Germany on Hitler.  Now I will agree that "Nationalists" often are used as dupes by the Jews, as per the Iraq-war, or Kissinger in Cambodia -- however, there are many people who see no hope or future continuing with Jews, Jew Media, Politics and Jewish ownership of companies. Like I've said to many people who tend to pull this whole "Hitler was Jewish" or "Hitler was a secret Zionist"... these people need to look at the only non-propagandized story about the man -- "The Young Hitler I Knew" by August Kubizek.  This writer isn't a secret "Zionist", and he is really telling it like it is about Hitler -- good or bad. Or better to find facts, read Richard Evan's book, "The Coming of the Third Reich".  At no point in time was the entire "Hitler-Nazi" parties under the command of secret or hidden Jews. In fact, Evans brings out that many WWI Jewish veterans were very Nationalistic and some even supportive of Hitler's ideas, except he excluded them. The story is more complex than mere sketchy associations with Hilter's foibles, and yes, he had a very flawed character... but he was fighting... like he did when the "House Painter" ran messages to High Command in the face of withering fire.  Hitler actually had Maria Remarque's wife executed in his stead to prove "traitors" of the Reich will end in death... you might call that Jewish... but I see it as a man who watched 10,000s die in WWI and didn't want the Jews to run his future after so many "sacrifices" on the front. They (the Soldiers) didn't deserve it.  

Yes blood is on his hands but he was, like Napoleon, thrust into a situation and did his best attempt to control it and wrest it from the Jews. Ironically, like WWI the end of WWII resulted in the deaths of millions of Goyim that far outweigh any deaths by Jews in WWI or WWII. Shed a tear for that Jew caused loss.
It was only after Hitler realized Jews were running many things that he hardened into whatever Jew Propaganda today describes him as.  Pull up a photo of his Hairdresser and call him something, the fact remains he was an idealist in the European tradition--- NOT JEWISH. He was a politician and played the game.

Ronald Reagan is a clown.  Everybody with a functioning brain-cell knows this.  Hitler wasn't.  He told what many people didn't want to believe -- they were SCAMMED by the JEWS, Bankers and Zionists.  Hitler was flawed but did his "dictator" best (like they did in Italy-Asia-S.America-Spain). Yeah, Jews might have been around the Fascist Ideas, but they didn't butcher Priests or burn Churches like the Bolsheviks did. That's an important difference between the real "Jew" and the Fictional Shadow "Jews".  Hitler took the stage with help but he was a German Nationalist first.    

So throw up more photos but there are many books showing how Jews were basically corrupting Germany... and how mixed up Germans and Jews were in resisting Bolshevism. Hitler was a man of his times that led Germany to war against Global Jewry, I don't see him as perfect, but don't necessarily associate Israeli-Zio Nationalism with German Nationalism. Hitler was an Austrian and lived for years as a German "Minority" in Austria. He had a much different perspective of Europe than even the French and the Germans themselves.  

I do agree with Carolyn Yeager that "Hitler" has been since the 1930s a focus point for mostly British/Jew propaganda.  
Without "Hitler" the Jews would have rigged something to launch "Israel".  The Jewish backing of the whole "Bolshevik-Stalin" invasion of Europe was to remove Monarchies and install Jews in power via Revolution or Invasion. And the sacrifices were many to stop it.

Nothing in my mind stops me from thinking that Hitler was nothing but intent on stopping the Jew led destruction of Western Europe.

http://www.archive.org/download/TheYoun ... KnewJr.pdf


And BTW, I don't think you've met many Germans... this guy looks like my Uncle and like a lot of Germans... and that's the honest  "NON-JEWISH" truth. Looks German as far as I can tell...

After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

thirdeyewise

Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"there are many books showing how Jews were basically corrupting Germany.

We don't disagree on that, Germany was setup from the Beginning. But I think you are totally missing the big picture.


Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"and how mixed up Germans and Jews were in resisting Bolshevism.

What do you mean? Are you saying Germans and Jews fought together against Bolshevism?


I'm curious how come you don't answer the two questions I asked?
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

CrackSmokeRepublican

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"
Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"there are many books showing how Jews were basically corrupting Germany.

We don't disagree on that, Germany was setup from the Beginning. But I think you are totally missing the big picture.


Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"and how mixed up Germans and Jews were in resisting Bolshevism.

What do you mean? Are you saying Germans and Jews fought together against Bolshevism?


I'm curious how come you don't answer the two questions I asked?

Think about it... Bolshevism was a foreign concept led as a "Political Project" by Jews (and Jewish Bankers) out of Russia... people in the years between the 1848 and 1923 in Europe were mixed about "Socialism-Bolshevism-Communism".  Some were for it and some against it depending on their perspective of the world -- all across Europe. Some German Jews saw Bolshevism as a major problem and resisted it. Funny thing though, is only the "Goyim" were seen in the "Freikorps" and Jews on the "Reds" side.  Read Richard Evan's book.. which supremely displays your lack of knowledge of "Weimer Germany"... it was mixed.
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Panoptimist

Did you guys download "In The Shadow of Hermes"?
The Orthodox Nationalist [11/18/10] - Berdayev and Dostoevsky; Modernism and Materialism; The critique of the bourgeois [Must Listen]
"[W]ithin himself / The danger lies, yet lies within his power]PL[/i] Book IX, ln. 349-356.

thirdeyewise

Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"So throw up more photos

Okay........

Hitler was a Mason!

You do know there is more than one way to tell a Mason/Marrano, right?
The Hidden hand gesture is just the most obvious.


"V" gesture:








What I assume is also a "V" but doing it with the separation of the middle finger.



Which I assume is mimicking this Jewish kabalistic gesture:




The "M" gesture

The sign is subtle enough to be hardly noticed but deliberate enough to be unmistakable in its intent.

 



Alexander Hamilton, Who by the way was a Jew....
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=99
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/Hamilton.html
















Hitler showing the Masonic "M":







The Nazis even put this hand gesture on their campaign tokens:


http://www.coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_coin=4591
Germany Nazi Donation Token 1932 and 1933. Notice that 2 out of the 3 gestures on this Nazi token is this "M" sign. The third hand (left) with the pinky finger separate from the other fingers is also Masonic/Satanic in origins, below.




"M" Being used by modern personalities:






Still need more convincing?

I came across some old Masonic postcards:




The hand gesture is very obvious in the following picture




If you look closely at the hand pointing down you will also see the joined middle fingers.




http://www.darkfiber.com/pz/chapter1.html

Excerpt from the above link: "...the hand gesture is a secret sign indicating that the gentleman is a Marrano---a crypto-Jew who accepted Christian baptism in order to remain in Spain after the Catholic Kings' order of 1492 that all Jews leave Spain..."

on Columbus & "M" symbol
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2008_10_01_archive.html


Remember I said that the show Star Trek is basically about the Jews
Quote"There is no symbol more important in its significance, more various in its application, or more generally diffused throughout the whole system of Freemasonry, than the triangle. An examination of it, therefore, cannot fail to be interesting to the Masonic student."
From the Encyclopedia of Freemasonry by Albert G. Mackey



Here is Hitler doing the exact same gesture.
Note: It was important enough for the Nazis to put it on a poster


http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/hitler2.htm




Take a guess who this famous mason is related to:
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

CrackSmokeRepublican

Do you think Glenn Beck is a Mason.. look a his hand?
 



or maybe Vanunu is a Mason... see the hand?



Taken from :
Quote"9/11 WAS ONLY ONE OPERATION..."

 "Initially, groups, Zionists, "banksters" and con men of all kinds rushed to the side of the neocons, seeing them as "hapless bumpkins" both naive and "on the make."  It was believed that, behind every "family values" type was a thief, a child molester or an ambitious "sell out" looking to exploit the stupidity of those around them and prey on fear and ignorance...and to a large extent, this has been correct."

When President Obama took office in January, 2009, it was expected he would do as he had promised, end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, wars he claimed were illegal and immoral, close the prison at Guantanamo, end the drone attacks on Pakistan and restore the constitutional rights lost under the Bush administration through the Patriot Acts and other ill advised legislation.

A new investigation into 9/11, along with investigations of the manipulation of intelligence leading to the invasion of Iraq and the shameful torture and rendition programs and the massive financial crimes that crashed the American economy in 2007 was also expected.  In fact, one of the common discussions prior to the election was whether President Bush and Vice President Cheney would resign, seeking pardon's from their successor, on the expectation that criminal proceedings would lead to their eventual arrest and imprisonment for war crimes or even treason.

Two years later, President Obama is a virtual "ghost."  Everything he promised to undo is the same or worse.  Even more surprising, the mainstream media says nothing about these promises being broken.  How long will we wait for the questions, "When will former Vice President Cheney be arrested," or "Are there plans to control 'death squads' in Afghanistan or begin to curtail the massive heroin exports from that country?

http://mycatbirdseat.com/2010/10/gordon ... never-saw/
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

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Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"So throw up more photos

Okay........

Hitler was a Mason! .....



You're not reaching at all there right Third Eye? ;)


I'm sure you could find pictures of even myself VAGUELY holding my hands in an M shape like Hitler.  I must be a mason too.


Seriously, your are so sure about one of the most lied about man in history? I can assure you 95% of what is written, 'non-fictionally', about Hitler was from a Jewish hand. But here you are trying to convince us that a man who fought against the Bolsheviks with a passion, exposed the Jew to the word to  such a damning extent as to only be trumped by Jesus Himself. Who DIDN'T run mass extermination camps (which if were in fact real would help the Jewish cause out even more) but still maintained that 'they' needed to be removed from the Reich, this man???  Ok fine he was a Jew, cause many Jewish authors told us so, oh and those pictures you provided, very damning evidence there.

  If he was indeed a puppet, why did he fight the Bolsheviks at all? Siding with them against the West would have proved more useful for them,  they could have started the cold war so much earlier and not have it be 'cold' either. They could have murdered even more gentiles, and still be able to look like the biggest victims in the end. (as they pretended to be under  the red Russians as well)


Frankly to me, it obvious why there is such a propaganda campaign against this man from every angle but the truth. They simply cannot afford to have another man such as this rise to prominence especially now in the 'information' age so they corrupt his message at every turn. Wouldn't want the Goyim to feel they have , or ever had, any chance or hope. They lied about him on both sides of the spectrum, first by saying what the MSM consistently beats down our throats; he was the world's biggest monster. But if that fails then they corrupt the other side of the argument by portraying him as a Zionist insider or puppet. Odd, again, sounds like Jesus as well. He is smeared, now more than ever, in the MSM, but when that doesn't work they portray Him as a Jew instead.  We can't have any heroes I guess.  No Goy could have or ever will be able to be righteous in the face of the Jews, nope he is either a monster or a Jewish insider...no Goy can better a Jew, and no Goy can ever be allowed to think that they may have at some point neither. Right Third Eye?