The Heretics’ Hour: Disinformation on the Internet, Part One

[o1OpTiMuS1o]

Who are the culprits and why do they do it? Topics include:

    * Purpose of disinformation is to mislead, deceive or confuse;
    * People are put in place to lead all "conspiracy" movements;
    * Alternative Truth and Political Movements are targeted;
    * The myth of the Swastika-Star of David "commemorative coin";
    * A giveaway sign: consistent false information with no retraction;
    * Examples of false info from two habitual offenders.



http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110131/ ... t-part-one

[youtube:x8vrorhj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi2w4-utBBk[/youtube]x8vrorhj]

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Who are the culprits and why do they do it? Topics include:

    * Purpose of disinformation is to mislead, deceive or confuse;
    * People are put in place to lead all "conspiracy" movements;
    * Alternative Truth and Political Movements are targeted;
    * The myth of the Swastika-Star of David "commemorative coin";
    * A giveaway sign: consistent false information with no retraction;
    * Examples of false info from two habitual offenders.



http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110131/ ... t-part-one

[youtube:1udc3gj2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi2w4-utBBk[/youtube]1udc3gj2]

Wow Yeager really took DBS to task there. DBS's seven "proofs" of the Nazi-Zionist partnership are all bogus. It's usually three strikes and your out, but seven?  :wtf: yet he'll just keep on swinging until he hits something    

That's how it is with a majority of the really fanatical proponents of this theory. They latch onto innocuous things like this Nazi-Zionist coin thingy and blow them way out of proportion, and deliberately misrepresent them to fit their theory. Otherwise they just make stuff up and label Gentiles as being Jewish with no evidence save for maybe one obscure blogspot or wordpress site claiming such with no source. It's like they just scour the back alley's of the internet looking for anything that remotely fits their theory and using it as "irrefutable proof" that Hitler and the Nazis were Jew agents. I really like Caroline Yeager becuz she is a competent researcher and critical thinker, not some two-bit conspiracy crank on the net who sees a Jew under every bed, including Hitler's.

Most 'Nazism = Zionism' people are actually very, very pro Jewish. Gordon Duff, DBS, Alan Hart, and the Neturei Karta. Arabs and Muslims are all yippy skippy when they hear people making such correlations. Leftist White people also seem to dig that idea and promote it, along with anti-Zionist Jews. All of these types of people are pro-Jewish but don't like "Zionism or any other form of racism" which is the catchphrase they always use. It's a ploy to serve the political agendas and cognitive dissonances of these various groups. Nobody has anything good to say about Mr. Hitler on either side of the fence -- his name will be dragged through the mud until the end of time with little concern for the facts. I refuse to go along with that status quo.

[o1OpTiMuS1o]

I refuse as well its total    BS

Come to think of it i did mention this BS from DBS a few weeks ago on a post here

[Shiksa Rage]

The Yeager women is nothing but a troublemaker. She won't happy until everybody is declaiming "Heil Hitler" at the beginning and end of each of their various podcasts/audio files.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

The Yeager women is nothing but a troublemaker. She won't happy until everybody is declaiming "Heil Hitler" at the beginning and end of each of their various podcasts/audio files.

why becuz she refuted DBS's lackluster Third Reich "history" as distortions, fanciful exaggerations and downright fiction ? DBS is more of a "trouble maker" character ...  he calls anyone who disagrees with him "a shill", no matter how small that disagreement is.

The first thing on his site reads like some sort of "Antifa" organization which is a pretty Jewish thing.

The French Connection disavows any contact with Nazis, Fascists or Racists in any form.
More than likely, all of these new groups are Government Psy-Ops.

"We are not racist, xenophobic, homophobic, or prejudiced against any race, creed, or national origin. We are prejudiced only against criminals"

[Fester]

I tend to think that Yeager is more of an expert on the Hitler/German question that Daryl, but I wish she'd explain how Daryl's agency is paying dividends for the bad guys.  I like Yeager for her attacks on the Big Shit House Lie aka the Holocaust.

We can root around and debate who Hitler was without anybody losing focus on what the problem is.  

Daryl's been all over the Zionist control for years.  He's one of 2 maybe 3 sites that collects memoryholed texts.  The interviews are very useful.  People don't come away confused or disinformed.  Yeager clearly hasn't been paying any attention to TFC for very long.

If I need info to help people overcome the brainwashing, I'll keep going to iamthewitness.com.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

I tend to think that Yeager is more of an expert on the Hitler/German question that Daryl, but I wish she'd explain how Daryl's agency is paying dividends for the bad guys.

You gotta admit it's pretty suspicious that DBS is so certain that he's right about this issue and then goes on to use fake "facts" as the center point of his argument against Hitler. and then he accuses anyone who disagrees with those fraudulent "facts" of being "a shill"? That's usually what real shills do.

We can root around and debate who Hitler was without anybody losing focus on what the problem is.  

if you haven't noticed yet, the fanatical proponents of this theory drag it into any discussion that has anything to do with WW2. They bring it up almost as often as the Jews bring up the Holocaust. This has almost become it's own field of study in the anti-zionist underground, and everyone thinks they're "experts" on Adolf Hitler, when they are nothing of the sort. Reading up on a few conspiracy websites, blogs and alternative news sources does not make one an "expert" on Hitler. unfortunately these people seem to think it does.

[Fester]

I remember hearing DBS and Condit on the subject and then Condit and Bejreknes.  All stuff I'd never be exposed to.  Lots of new angles, lots to things it would take a great deal of time to confirm.

Has he been impolitic in his statements on this topic?  Maybe.  There's chickenshit questions and critical topics.  What he's make available in the text and audio archives is material that will permanently change people's mind about who owns their governments, media, corporations, etc.  There's no going back.  When there's a critical mass of people who've got a handle on criminal Zionism, we'll have a chance to get rid of the fuckers.

I like Yeager on the Holocaust and German issues, but she seems a bit dim.  Maybe she'll explain how Rafeeq and Pidcock and Mahatir Mohammed et al are shills.  I didn't get it the first time.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

I remember hearing DBS and Condit on the subject and then Condit and Bejreknes.  All stuff I'd never be exposed to.  Lots of new angles, lots to things it would take a great deal of time to confirm.

Anyone pushing their version of history as the "absolute truth" with no wiggle room isn't doing us any favors. He got 7 out of 7 wrong on Hitler/Third Reich but presented them all as the unabashed truth and fact and then has the nerve to accuse those who differ on the subject of being "shills" in the same breath. This is obviously not someone who's trying to give us unbiased facts. He's peculiarly biased on the Hitler issue and that's suspicious.

[Helphand]

"I like Yeager on the Holocaust and German issues, but she seems a bit dim. Maybe she'll explain how Rafeeq and Pidcock and Mahatir Mohammed et al are shills. I didn't get it the first time."

She does seem a bit dim. And regarding Pidcock, Rafiq/Rafeeq - she didn't say WHY in Part 1, maybe that appears in Part 2??

As for the Nazi-Zionism-Hitler detour generally, it's not something I've had the time to get into as I still reckon the money is core issue #1 but here is a  non-exhaustive booklist, probably more out there, if anyone has already READ any of these and can say what is good (or not) in them - great:

(a) Anon--"The Strange Death of Adolf Hitler" (1939). [fiction/faction/distraction]
(b) Hennecke Kardel--"Adolf Hitler: Founder Of Israel -- Israel in War - With Jews" (1997) ["Nazis were Jews behind founding of Israel"].
(c) Nexus Magazine--"Fabricating The Death Of Adolf Hitler" (2007).
(d) G.G.Preparata--"Conjuring Hitler" (2005).
(e) Antony C. Sutton--"Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler" (1976).
(f) Sidney Warburg--"Hitler's Secret Backers" (1933).
(g) W.W.C.--"Hitler's Salad Days" (page 44 et seq of "Living Age Magazine", September 1933, extracted from "The New Statesman and Nation", 'London Independent [sic] Weekly of the Left'.
(h) Hitler's family tree at <http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDFs/hitler_family_tree00.pdf>   Source?
(i) Passage in "The Pirates of Finance: The Story Of A Great Conspracy" (1947) by Stanley F. Allen, F.C.A. (Aust.):

  "SOME OF MONTAGU NORMAN'S DOINGS:
  He was very much responsible for the ill-advised return to the gold standard in the 30's. ...
  He went so far as to allow London to over-lend to Nazi Germany and did not exert his influence, as the Bank of England's Governor, to reduce the enormous German Bank debt.
  In 1939 he even provided a loan of £50,000,000 to Hitler, and when explaining said: "We will have to give Germany a loan of 50 million. We may never be paid back, but it will be a less loss than the fall of Nazism."
  He pursued a serious policy of financial appeasement to the Nazis right up to the beginning of the war. Even when war started, he strongly opposed a policy of effective exchange control."

  Allen, specifically, is plausible in "casting aspersions" about Montague Norman and his funding the Nazis because his line is consistent with the fact that Arthur Swan, author of "The Other Road To Freedom", claimed (per David Pidcock) his WW2 imprisonment for refusing to fight etc was because the Bank of England itself had financed Hitler's Nazis and their war preparations!

(j) Edwin Black: IBM And The Holocaust (2001).
(k) Harold James: The Deutsche Bank And The Nazi Economic War Against The Jews (2001) [pro-Jew but has potential background information]



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Strange Death of Adolf Hitler:

"But yes," Captain Roehm proceeded. "Now from such a family, imbeciles and geniuses come. There is a halfbrother by the first wife, long a waiter, and now a restaurant-keeper in Berlin. His [whose? the half-brother's or Hitler's [did he have one??]] sister, Angela, was a cook in a Charity Hall for Jewish Students in Vienna: to such degradation do these foul parasites force the women of our race! The Leader has made her his housekeeper; her daughter—the mother is Frau Raupel—was the one woman since his mother that the Leader loved and wholly tolerated. Adolf himself had a full brother, who died in infancy, and a sister, unmarried, still living in Vienna.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Hitler stopped this.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2 ... y-of-guilt


Keep in mind Freeman Tilden's observations on Germany:

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[Anonymous]

DBS is a multiculturalist, he denies any racial distinctions. He is part American Indian and anyone who is of mixed race shares the same view, they hate white nationalists and people like hitler because they see those people as a threat to themselves which is understandable.

Why in the world is anyone calling Yeager dimwitted, you have got to be kidding. She is smarter than 99% of females who are unable to understand the jewish question. Also I don't know of any woman doing pureplay, she is the only one.

[LordLindsey]

Yeager is, as far as I am concerned, a hot-head who has such a thing for Hitler and is so against jews that she even gave the venerable Mark Glenn a ration-of-shit for his interview with Alan Hart.

I am not comfortable with her because ANYONE who will attack Mark Glenn for something as trivial as this is trouble in my book.  I don't walk-on-water when it comes to saying how I feel about certain people and/or incidents, but I sure as Hell would never attack someone like Mark Glenn simply for having certain guests on his broadcast that don't say and believe everything that I do; to do that shows not just im-maturity, but also an arrogant attitude that it is "my way or the highway."

I am so damned sick and tired of seeing people who are all, for the most part, fighting the same enemies and working toward very similar goals continually attacking each other for issues that are not material; however, there are those by whose actions there IS CAUSE TO SUSPECT of working for an ulterior motive.  Adam Austin calls for "solar zionism", and if you can't see that those associated with that alleged agent provacteur are not following the words of Hertzl then you deserve to have a visit by the feds.  "The anti-Semites will be our best friends..."  I most certainly would call this man, and those like him, out for their OBVIOUS deeds/actions/words, and not just because I dis-agree with something that a guest has/had said.

LINDSEY

NB:  You people had better investigate/research the people with whom you hitch your wagons because there are people sitting in prison right now because of what they said and sent to that LITERAL FED PROVACTEUR Hal Turner--who HIMSELF is sitting in prison because that is what the Feds do to you when you are exposed and/or of no more use to them...they FUCK YOU just like those in their employ/service FUCKED THOSE DUPED BY THEM.    

NBB:  Just to make it clear, I am pretty damned sure that Yeager is no Hal Turner Fed, and while I do not have the e-mails to prove that "Adam Austin" and "JAM" *or whatever name/incarnation he is currently using* are clones of Turner, I will say this to ALL OF YOU:  ANYONE publicly condoning violence, murder, and/or GENOCIDE *solar zionism* against ANY GROUP, and who are not either harrassed openly or arrested by the authorities are much more than likely being used as proxy-agents for the authorities to ensnare as many people in the net of entrapment by emotional-outburst as they can until his/her cover is blown.  This is how the game works, and there are many of us here who have tried to warn people like Mr. o'Connel...but to no avail because he simply could/CAN not control his emotions and it was inevitably only a matter-of-time before this poor soul found himself sitting in prison.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

DBS is a multiculturalist, he denies any racial distinctions. He is part American Indian and anyone who is of mixed race shares the same view, they hate white nationalists and people like hitler because they see those people as a threat to themselves which is understandable.

That's precisely what DBS is. A pro-Multicult, anti-Nationalist weirdo.

Why in the world is anyone calling Yeager dimwitted, you have got to be kidding. She is smarter than 99% of females who are unable to understand the jewish question. Also I don't know of any woman doing pureplay, she is the only one.

No shit, eh. Fester was a hardcore DBS groupie so it's no surprise he'd say something like that.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Yeager is, as far as I am concerned, a hot-head who has such a thing for Hitler and is so against jews that she even gave the venerable Mark Glenn a ration-of-shit for his interview with Alan Hart.

hot head?   ever heard of the violent drunk DBS who attacked Ognir?   You were playing his tune since forever. I don't see why her being strongly against Jews is a point against her, obviously that's what makes her GOOD.   I agree with her appraoch, showing any sympathy for these monsters is counter-productive. But you've always been a liberal anti-zionist / bleeding heart type who's always reserved a little sympathy for these Judaics, even though they deserve none.

I am not comfortable with her because ANYONE who will attack Mark Glenn for something as trivial as this is trouble in my book.  I don't walk-on-water when it comes to saying how I feel about certain people and/or incidents, but I sure as Hell would never attack someone like Mark Glenn simply for having certain guests on his broadcast that don't say and believe everything that I do; to do that shows not just im-maturity, but also an arrogant attitude that it is "my way or the highway."

Uhhh, then why did you support DBS for all these years? He was always the FIRST to call someone a "shill" who didn't agree with him on any particular issue, especially anti-Judaics who went a little further than his wimpshit version of "anti-Zionism". He was quite literally a "my way or the highway" type of guy.

I am so damned sick and tired of seeing people who are all, for the most part, fighting the same enemies and working toward very similar goals continually attacking each other for issues that are not material;

Yea I would agree with that. But calling ppl out on bullshit and disinformation never hurts.

however, there are those by whose actions there IS CAUSE TO SUSPECT of working for an ulterior motive.  Adam Austin calls for "solar zionism", and if you can't see that those associated with that alleged agent provacteur are not following the words of Hertzl then you deserve to have a visit by the feds.  "The anti-Semites will be our best friends..."  I most certainly would call this man, and those like him, out for their OBVIOUS deeds/actions/words, and not just because I dis-agree with something that a guest has/had said.

Well you're right about the calling for genocide bit, it's counter-productive and is fed behavior, typically. especially when they are urging others to go do the violence instead of doing it themselves. but as far as your Herzl quote goes ... anti-Semites are the Jews' worst enemy, that's why they work so hard to put down "anti-Semites" and lock them away in prison, like they just did to our friend Brendon O'Connell in Australia. If there were no antisemites acting and speaking against them, they would have already sealed the deal on the Jew World Order police state and have us in Gulags by now. Lindsey, are you honestly willing to play by the Jews' rules here, and abide by the laws laid down by them? They've been systematically working to take away our means of resisting by taking away our right of free speech, bear arms, etc. Since they have deemed it a "hate crime" in many countries to speak against them or refute their version of history, are you going to be obedient to those evil laws? are you going to be silent just becuz they might come for you one day and arrest you for your speech? I don't follow the Sanhedrin high court which rules our nations, and I don't live by their laws becuz their laws are criminal.

This is how the game works, and there are many of us here who have tried to warn people like Mr. o'Connel...but to no avail because he simply could/CAN not control his emotions and it was inevitably only a matter-of-time before this poor soul found himself sitting in prison.

this is idiotic. O'Connell is sitting in prison becuz the Judaics put him there, not becuz he committed any crime. He committed no crime at all, he simply informed a rat-faced Judaic Sayan that he is a racist, homicidal maniac that follows a religion of hate, homicide and ethnic cleansing. O'Connell was exercising his right to free speech. Do you think he cares about being in prison? In order to upset the CORRUPT Jewish-controlled system you have to break the rules and step outside the boundaries they have gradually enclosed around us. The Judaics have made it ILLEGAL to speak against them, so f-ing what, I'm still gonna speak against them, are you? They can ban the use of the word "fuck" if they wanted to, I'm still gonna say it, they can go F-U-C-K themselves.  Sounds like you are just gonna follow along the pied piper of Jewish Sanhedrin "law" and play nice, nice with these people, when they lock us in prison, murder us, and burn our houses down like they did to Ernst Zundel..

[Ognir]

I listened to this audio yesterday and know I understand why scumbag has been worried about this woman for the past month or so, or since she started posting on Piper's site.

Someone said she was smarter than 99% of the women out there, I can't disagree with that

Looking forward to part 2

[Helphand]

(<character assassination>... she's got an awful shrill screechy voice, like one of the Harpies.</character assassination>).

also it won't have escaped yr attention that Scumbag in his most recent interview with D. Pidcock around 15m (and near end)  seems to be raising an innuendo. Check it out.

[Whaler]

I listened to this audio yesterday and know I understand why scumbag has been worried about this woman for the past month or so, or since she started posting on Piper's site.

Someone said she was smarter than 99% of the women out there, I can't disagree with that

Looking forward to part 2

[youtube:najucht6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuDl-HHa1Fs[/youtube]najucht6]

Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists who love to confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:" * Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO; * Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich; * Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;" * David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian; * Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a Zionist; * Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century.
http://reasonradionetwork.com/2011020...

[o1OpTiMuS1o]

The Yeager women is nothing but a troublemaker. She won't happy until everybody is declaiming "Heil Hitler" at the beginning and end of each of their various podcasts/audio files.

Its not her to blame for you not knowing the true History of the events that took place in WW2 its only you, referring to her as a trouble maker for telling the truth is just rediculous.   :down:

[Ognir]

She picked the obvious ones, yet they have bigger support than ever

How many times I have I said it about Tarply, he could say    to save himself

[o1OpTiMuS1o]

She picked the obvious ones, yet they have bigger support than ever

How many times I have I said it about Tarply, he could say    to save himself

didnt catch Whalers post i posted the 2nd part on its own thread