The Two Seed Line Explained

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I didn't know in which category to post this.

[GordZilla]

Thanks, good video. That guy has a good channel too, well worth checking out;

http://www.youtube.com/user/chasluim34# ... OZ0oBw8DqA

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Serpent Seed heresy may sound good to anti-Judaics, but it is still heresy.

[GordZilla]

Serpent Seed heresy may sound good to anti-Judaics, but it is still heresy.

Here I respectfully disagree with you, nothing fits better. I've first heard of this back in 94, and since then I still have yet to find flaw in the story. It fits like a glove and explains away so much of the bible that is often used against believers -stuff that seems to be contrary or nonsensical. The generations of Adam, for example, is one of the most concise lists of the bible, God just goes on and on and on listing out names, but why? I believe it is to illustrate to the reader that the lack of Cain's name is NO oversight. Esau 'The Red' also brings back the same dynamic that's originally found in the story of Cain and Able. The fact that Jesus Himself refers to the Jews as being 'of their father, the king of all lies' etc, you could go on indefinitely, but the bottom line is; this story fits. It fits the bible, it fits our current situation, "What am I ? My brother's keeper?". It helps to understand the Jew beyond evolution and indoctrination, it explains them in the way they truly are; demonic. They stick together no matter what;  the 'it's us against them' mentality. Evolution and indoctrination fail to explain why they remain (and have always been) such a tight net group. Jews are testament to Christianity, and this version of Christianity holds the most weight to that fact. My only concern with it, and it's why I still don't consider myself as C.I., is the fact the 12 tribes are indeed 'chosen'  and  I would NEVER make that assumption of myself. It's a dangerous and arrogant mindset to hold. But the 'devil's seed' theory fits perfectly  in most other categories - especially when one becomes 'Jew wise'.  

 It also sheds light on to why it is that there is a split between Old and New Testaments. Jesus said "I didn't come to change the word of God, nor disregard it, but to fulfill it.".  All of the Old Testament were words we were to live by until -as Jesus Himself put it- "Till it's fulfilled' (He stated both these things) So if He came to 'fulfill it' (the Old Testament) then in His passing we should consider it 'fulfilled' And if it's fulfilled  then now our focus should be on the words of the New Testament -IMO. (the sequel, You know ...where Jesus starts to really kick some Talmudic ass    )

Also this view sheds light on why God seemed to be so devastatingly evil, especially in the Old Testament. Imagine that  we knew all our enemies, some say we already do, and imagine if God also knew of the unjust things they were doing; What would you expect Him to do about it? Sure He tried to correct them, but that usually failed, as  human arrogance always takes hold and God's words are inevitably ignored, so Instead He choose to wipe the slate clean. His targets were often Edomites or Cainites. But remember, after all, when 'killing' He is only removing the mortal vessel as ultimately He alone determines what becomes of the spirit. (what is 'killing' to the keeper of souls after all?)  So again, understanding that Satan's seed line is well and good on earth, and that it's still with us,  does that not almost make you wish for this same 'justice'? Even today?

Without the Jew, or the devil's seed line, there would also be no reason for faith. And faith is the greatest gift one can offer God, indeed it's the only one He truly values - but He didn't want it to be too easy. He wanted you to have free choice, but He also wanted you to realize, threw the Jew, that to follow the serpent is also a choice you can make. (the path of Satan is wide) It's a very real choice with very real results.  To me this 'life' is only but a filter for the next, 'up or down' that's our choice. Choosing not to believe is fine but you are left with very little when it comes to trying to explain away the Jew's true nature. You can simply ignore that too -it's all about choice and consequence after all.

Jesus nailed it, and they are playing their role to a 'T' , it's left for us to recognise this and choose our side. And we'd have it no other way. His alternative would be to be here every day holding our hands and telling us what we should or should not do in every situation -I don't think any of us would want that. So instead He left a clue, and a force compelling us to seek truth and goodness, that being 'evil' and He let it reign supreme on earth. The best of us will recognize and reject it, the worst of us will side with it. However most of us are somewhere in the middle, still trying to figure it all out -personally I believe we still have time.


"I know of your works and of your lies, how you claim to be poor though thou are rich, and of the blasphemy of those that call themselves Jews but are not and are of the synagogue of Satan"


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[-Pas-]

Gordzilla wrote :

I still don't consider myself as C.I., is the fact the 12 tribes are indeed 'chosen' and I would NEVER make that assumption of myself. It's a dangerous and arrogant mindset to hold

I'm glad you feel that way, and fully agree on the point you make on the mindset.

Without the Jew, or the devil's seed line, there would also be no reason for faith.

In that case, Atheism would be a great thing : No more jew.

Choosing not to believe is fine but you are left with very little when it comes to trying to explain away the Jew's true nature. You can simply ignore that too -it's all about choice and consequence after all.

I'm not sure if i understand yor statement correctly, but my explaination of the jew's true nature : parasites.And the only thing i believe in, is that they got to go.They will never change, and they've tricked the religous people for thousands of years to let them go off the hook.And look where we are now?
I see this mess we're in now as the consequense of earlier choices.Bad choices, good people probably too good but bad choices.

[GordZilla]

I'm not sure if i understand yor statement correctly, but my explaination of the jew's true nature : parasites.And the only thing i believe in, is that they got to go.They will never change, and they've tricked the religous people for thousands of years to let them go off the hook.And look where we are now?
I see this mess we're in now as the consequense of earlier choices.Bad choices, good people probably too good but bad choices.

'Parasites', yeah exactly ...but more importantly; different. They are different from EVERYBODY else, and that difference lies at their very hearts. When we tell lies, even the whitest of lies, there's that little bit of our conscious that gives us a bit of guilt. We all share this, some can mask it better than others ...but the Jew?  He doesn't have this mechanism at all. He tells a lie by nature, no guilt, and no way to tell. Makes them great as lawyers and actors. But it's this very thing, the difference they have (generally) than from everyone else on earth. What is honour to a Jew? What pride do they have in their name? (which they constantly change). What empathy do they have for anyone else other than Jews?  They have pride in deception, who does that? What honour is there in that?  It's these things that I was getting at. Evolution or indoctrination have a hard time explaining that. Satan's seed, well yeah ...maybe it's a cop out, but either way it fits -it's a good explanation, an apt one. They are exactly what you'd expect them to be, knowing who their father is. You're right; they will never change, which also pokes holes in evolution or indoctrination being the cause. It's in their blood, and it's there to stay.

[GordZilla]

In that case, Atheism would be a great thing : No more jew.

If only it was that simple, but Atheism doesn't rid us of the Jew, it simply makes them less distinguishable from the rest of us. And at the same time it also makes us collectively less aware of their true nature. It would work if God first removed the Jew for us, or we did it ourselves, then atheism as a doctrine would be fine - we could trust each other, we cannot trust them. Don't forget of the 109 times they have been expelled it was by Christian hands almost entirely. Christians sleep, then get mislead, then forget, but finally after enough abuse they revert back to the words of Jesus. They gain wisdom about the Jew, then they oust him and then the cycle repeats. It would work permanently if it was ever practiced on a world wide scale, but this is now- of course- a pipe dream. That will never happen now, way too late in the game. Don't get me wrong, I do not support today's modern religion, especially Judeochristianity. But I do see the wisdom and strength that can be derived from Jesus' own words. It's my opinion that that's the very reason they spent so much time and effort destroying Christianity's true faith, deceiving it's flock and mocking Jesus wherever they can. They have felt the backlash of Christians before and are determined to never have that happen again. Atheism still remains a favourite tool of theirs, but Judeochristianity is certainly a close second.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Serpent Seed heresy may sound good to anti-Judaics, but it is still heresy.

Here I respectfully disagree with you, nothing fits better. I've first heard of this back in 94, and since then I still have yet to find flaw in the story. It fits like a glove and explains away so much of the bible that is often used against believers -stuff that seems to be contrary or nonsensical. The generations of Adam, for example, is one of the most concise lists of the bible, God just goes on and on and on listing out names, but why? I believe it is to illustrate to the reader that the lack of Cain's name is NO oversight. Esau 'The Red' also brings back the same dynamic that's originally found in the story of Cain and Able. The fact that Jesus Himself refers to the Jews as being 'of their father, the king of all lies' etc, you could go on indefinitely, but the bottom line is; this story fits. It fits the bible, it fits our current situation, "What am I ? My brother's keeper?". It helps to understand the Jew beyond evolution and indoctrination, it explains them in the way they truly are; demonic. They stick together no matter what;  the 'it's us against them' mentality. Evolution and indoctrination fail to explain why they remain (and have always been) such a tight net group. Jews are testament to Christianity, and this version of Christianity holds the most weight to that fact. My only concern with it, and it's why I still don't consider myself as C.I., is the fact the 12 tribes are indeed 'chosen'  and  I would NEVER make that assumption of myself. It's a dangerous and arrogant mindset to hold. But the 'devil's seed' theory fits perfectly  in most other categories - especially when one becomes 'Jew wise'.  

 It also sheds light on to why it is that there is a split between Old and New Testaments. Jesus said "I didn't come to change the word of God, nor disregard it, but to fulfill it.".  All of the Old Testament were words we were to live by until -as Jesus Himself put it- "Till it's fulfilled' (He stated both these things) So if He came to 'fulfill it' (the Old Testament) then in His passing we should consider it 'fulfilled' And if it's fulfilled  then now our focus should be on the words of the New Testament -IMO. (the sequel, You know ...where Jesus starts to really kick some Talmudic ass    )

Also this view sheds light on why God seemed to be so devastatingly evil, especially in the Old Testament. Imagine that  we knew all our enemies, some say we already do, and imagine if God also knew of the unjust things they were doing; What would you expect Him to do about it? Sure He tried to correct them, but that usually failed, as  human arrogance always takes hold and God's words are inevitably ignored, so Instead He choose to wipe the slate clean. His targets were often Edomites or Cainites. But remember, after all, when 'killing' He is only removing the mortal vessel as ultimately He alone determines what becomes of the spirit. (what is 'killing' to the keeper of souls after all?)  So again, understanding that Satan's seed line is well and good on earth, and that it's still with us,  does that not almost make you wish for this same 'justice'? Even today?

Without the Jew, or the devil's seed line, there would also be no reason for faith. And faith is the greatest gift one can offer God, indeed it's the only one He truly values - but He didn't want it to be too easy. He wanted you to have free choice, but He also wanted you to realize, threw the Jew, that to follow the serpent is also a choice you can make. (the path of Satan is wide) It's a very real choice with very real results.  To me this 'life' is only but a filter for the next, 'up or down' that's our choice. Choosing not to believe is fine but you are left with very little when it comes to trying to explain away the Jew's true nature. You can simply ignore that too -it's all about choice and consequence after all.

Jesus nailed it, and they are playing their role to a 'T' , it's left for us to recognise this and choose our side. And we'd have it no other way. His alternative would be to be here every day holding our hands and telling us what we should or should not do in every situation -I don't think any of us would want that. So instead He left a clue, and a force compelling us to seek truth and goodness, that being 'evil' and He let it reign supreme on earth. The best of us will recognize and reject it, the worst of us will side with it. However most of us are somewhere in the middle, still trying to figure it all out -personally I believe we still have time.


"I know of your works and of your lies, how you claim to be poor though thou are rich, and of the blasphemy of those that call themselves Jews but are not and are of the synagogue of Satan"


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I see you didn't investigate some of the contradictions I brought up before that this serpent seed heresy creates. The biggest problem that arises from this escapist theory is that it basically leaves you with no conclusion other than that man is not responsible for his sin. Instead, we are to believe that it's all the fault of the Jews and the serpent seed.

And what about the few good Jews out there? Shouldn't their alleged demonic genetics prevent them from doing any good? Is Mordechai Vanunu a demon? Hoffman?  I'm not saying there are not demonic Jews, surely there are, just as there are demonic gentiles. Are there more demonic Jews? Maybe, but not in the context of said heresy. If anything, the serpent seed is a spiritual seed—as is the seed of Abraham also a spiritual seed. It would make sense that they would be reciprocal in this way.

I admit that I can't quite explain the cause of the collective evil of the Jew, but there has to be a more reasonable answer than the serpent seed theory. Jews may not be the serpent seed, but they certainly collectively embody evil more than any other group on the planet. But ask yourself what predisposed them to this? God instilled them a collective though for their survival. Unfortunately for God, the Jews, and everybody else, they used their collective thought for wrongdoing. God is not to blame, but their collective thought didn't come out of a vacuum or from Satan.

Why did none of the "anti-Semitic" Church Fathers endorse this? Surely, Martin Luther would definitely have.

[GordZilla]

TF;

Wait now, I didn't say man is/was without sin, nor do I think I implied that. I believe we are all capable of sin, however our conscious usually reminds most of us that we are in the wrong when we commit such acts. I believe the Jew is void of that mechanism.


A few 'good Jews', well I've heard this before. First I find there is but a mere handful of them, not surprising given their population but VERY surprising seeing how vocal they are in any other 'movement' known to man. They are the biggest mouth pieces to virtually every movement out there, except ours, i.e.;  the truth.  And often I find the Jews that we think are 'good' Jews only later turn around to disappoint us. We often find out later and much too late that they were all the while spinning an agenda - even if we missed it the first time around. The rule, with me at least, when it comes to outspoken Jews, is to distrust them first and make them earn, tooth and nail, my trust. I don't trust many of them at all as a result and to me that's just fine ..they earned that particular distinction in my book.


When I asked a 'Jew wise' preacher once about the Jews, he said "they are fingers of the same hand' meaning;  yes God did allow the seed to be there, but merely -IMO- to reinforce the belief in Christ. As testament to Christianity. In God's world you can't have the good without the bad. I spent some time already trying to explain this, but in short nothing happens without it being God's plan, whether or not we understand why,  as individuals, is irrelevant to that plan.


Many 'Fathers' did endorse that belief in the past, and it is not a big leap for them to have done so either. After all 'they' are referred to as the children of the 'king of all lies' by Jesus Himself. Martin Luther may not have got that message from his interpretation, but many have. And frankly, no offence to Martin, but it's that simple...Jesus Himself tells it to you straight up. I'm gonna believe Jesus before Martin. Look deeper, you will see that many understood the Jew to be of Cain, who was of Satan. Only a few hundred years ago this was not a well kept secret. I personally knew some old folk, now since past, that knew the Jew in this light, and only from the words of the bible and their 'Jew wise' Priest at the church they attended (not from the internet , nor underground radio shows etc, which is why I maintain that true devout Christianity has been, and can be again, a great weapon against the Jew - arguably the only one ever known). There used to be a lot of people who also shared this view.  Do you think Jesus would refer to people of God as a "den of vipers", if we were all of the same 'father'? (not to mention some of the other nasty things He had to say about them)


When Jesus Himself tells us that the Jew is of the Devil, a few times, when Genius itself tells us that Cain is not fathered by Adam, and a host of other clues  ...when you add it up... well.... I don't think this theory above can be dismissed so easily. "Hearsay" sure ...ALL BIBLE INTREPRITAION, not matter how popular or unpopular, IS IN THE END; HEARSAY. However this interpretation fits best , best with the wording of the bible and best with the facts as we see them on the ground before us today.



"You are of your father and the lusts of your father you shall do"  

Which "father"

[GordZilla]

P.S. I am glad we are able to have this discussion without the inevitable "Jesus freaks!' comments from the peanut gallery, it's refreshing, I would ask of those who give not one shit about Christianity, nor God to not bother interjecting. Yes we know; you only believe in 'scientific miracles' of something coming from nothing and codes writing themselves into existence. To be clear we all have our own beliefs and none of us can be sure, well not if we are true to ourselves and others can we claim to be 'sure'.

   for the silence and letting us 'Jesus freaks' have at it  

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[GordZilla]

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hehehehe, I wasn't referring to you Pas ...but hahahaha anyways

 

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Wow, well said Gord!
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[GordZilla]

Wow, well said Gord!
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Thank you. I just wish I was a better writer, it takes me a long time -like forever - to try to get my point across and even then I fail often.     Oh well, to me it goes with the nature of the discussion, this stuff is heavy and I'm really just a layman. But thanks again it feels good knowing  at least someone is reading this.  :lol:   To me, anyways,  this is really the heart of understanding the Jew, it's the story we need to keep alive.

 

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RT RUSSIA TODAY GOING WERE NO NEWS CAST HAS GONE BEFORE NWO EXPOSED


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[-Pas-]

Good post, /Tab.
Very interesting.

[checkitb4uwreckit]

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RT RUSSIA TODAY GOING WERE NO NEWS CAST HAS GONE BEFORE NWO EXPOSED

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This RT guy is no friend of the truth. David Duke takes on this Zionist here:

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[Wimpy]

I knew RT was extremely biased but this host was no different than any of those like Wolf Blitzer  on the national or cable news networks; completely zionist.  Duke was prepared and was able to counter the 'smear' attempts in a calm professional manner.  I don't think Duke will be invited back having laid RT's 'best' to rest.  Thom Hartmann is most likely a tribe member too.

Next RT vid I see posted on any website will be approached as if it were a CNN or Fox vid.

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This RT guy is no friend of the truth.

Well, he had Duke about 9 min on the air, that's a lot, he said too that he had Duke on his "radio show a number of times" before (?). This guy has the spected views about "The Jews" that most people has (Media brainwashed and lack of knowledge about REAL history, economics etc). In reality, if you had ask me about those very same issues for 10 years ago, this guy current "views" were about the same myself had by then. So, I don't  know about this "no friend of the truth" thing, what I know, is that the reaction of this guy is the "NORMAL reaction"  in PAVLOVIAN Classical conditioning manners that the goym suppose to have and in reality have right now in GLOBAL ways after all education/media brainwash.  Look, we must be smarter than introducing people to the truth by  sending them to  http://www.davidduke.com, because for them this is synonym with the KKK, and that is the reality by now.

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[checkitb4uwreckit]

This RT guy is no friend of the truth.

Look, we must be smarter than introducing people to the truth by  sending them to  http://www.davidduke.com, because for them this is synonym with the KKK, and that is the reality by now.

No, DavidDuke.com is one of the first places I'll send someone because Duke calls a spade a spade and has sources to back up everything he claims. And I'll recommend to them David Duke's excellent books, Jewish Supremacism, and My Awakening.

[Anonymous]

That is skip baker, I have heard him on afew interviews. He used to be a Seventh Day Adventist, his experience there is quite enlightening, I think most of you guys will find this quite interesting.

Fallacies of the 7th Day Adventist Church
4/19/2010 2:01:20 AM
Interview with Skip Baker, former SDA member
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-22187/TS-345362.mp3

[-Pas-]

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Dr. Duke did an exellent job with that obnoxious interviewer.Some people might have a problem with his past, but personally i don't care anymore.
He comes out with the truth on all kind of different subjects.I like the man.
Thanks for posting, CIB4UWI.

[Anonymous]

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[Christopher Marlowe]

Thom Hartmann is a smart guy, but he seems to be entirely pussified when dealing with Jewish interests like hollywood and banking. Hartman can't deal with the facts and instead does the worst kind of slanderous interview with Duke.  Very disappointing.  Hartmann is very careful to protect the buttered side of his bread: he knows that if he says the truth, he will very shortly find that his radio show has been cancelled.

[Anonymous]

Christopher Marlowe, I was wondering why that youtube video is in this thread, not relevant to the topic which is dual seedline.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Christopher Marlowe, I was wondering why that youtube video is in this thread, not relevant to the topic which is dual seedline.

It looks like /pas put a vid up on the last page where Hartmann was discussing the upside-down star in the Republican elephant.  (I guess he felt that the satanism exposed on that vid was loosely related to the idea of the Cain seedline being descended from the devil).  Then MSMD posted a video showing that Hartmann is a chickensh*t p*ssy.

Yes; it is kind of off-topic at this point.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

TF;
.Jesus Himself tells it to you straight up. I'm gonna believe Jesus before Martin. Look deeper, you will see that many understood the Jew to be of Cain, who was of Satan.... Do you think Jesus would refer to people of God as a "den of vipers", if we were all of the same 'father'? (not to mention some of the other nasty things He had to say about them)


When Jesus Himself tells us that the Jew is of the Devil, a few times, when Genius itself tells us that Cain is not fathered by Adam, and a host of other clues  ...when you add it up... well.... I don't think this theory above can be dismissed so easily. "Hearsay" sure ...ALL BIBLE INTREPRITAION, not matter how popular or unpopular, IS IN THE END; HEARSAY. However this interpretation fits best , best with the wording of the bible and best with the facts as we see them on the ground before us today.



"You are of your father and the lusts of your father you shall do"  

Which "father"

But consider that in many instances in the New Testament, physical lineages are downplayed in favour of spiritual lineages. It is a major theme of the New Testament. When Jesus is speaking, is he shuffling between talking about spiritual lineages and physical ones? How is one to decipher which is which?  We, Christians, are called the seed of Abraham, even though we haven't a drop of Hebraic blood in us. We are called a "royal priesthood" in the New Testament.

Furthermore, we are told not to debate "endless genealogies" which are fruitless and "vain."

Yes we know; you only believe in 'scientific miracles' of something coming from nothing and codes writing themselves into existence.

 

[Michael K.]

There is ancestry from Cain and from Seth in every person.  The Bible makes it clear that, while Noah's sons were of the pure line of Seth, their wives were of Cainite blood, hence all descendants of Noah's race have BOTH bloodlines.


There is a Native American story symbolic of this struggle:

"Inside you, my son, are two wolves:  One is all things noble, honorable, courageous and kind; the other is all things selfish, unjust, malicious and cowardly.  They are locked in a battle to the death and only one shall win."

"Tell me, Grandfather, which wolf within me will prevail?"

"The one you feed, my son."

[Roy Hobs]

".....The Bible makes it clear that, while Noah's sons were of the pure line of Seth, their wives were of Cainite blood......"

Could you provide the Scripture verses to support this?  Thanks.

[Father Brown]

".....The Bible makes it clear that, while Noah's sons were of the pure line of Seth, their wives were of Cainite blood......"

Could you provide the Scripture verses to support this?  Thanks.

Yes, I would like to see that reference as well. Seems to make the Flood a ridiculous event.

Also, it has been speculated that Melchisdech was a Canannite and the King of Salem. Which of course became Jeru-Salem.

He is a mystery, and as I said, this is a speculation based on Catholic Theology.