NWO and Extraterrestrials

[Milton]

Manipulative Extraterrestrials and Canadian Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine

Taken fromhttp://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2008/07/21/02479.htm

by Pierre Lafontaine

Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, provides circumstantial evidence to support representations by Dr. Michael Salla and other Exopolitics scholars, concerning alleged Manipulative Extraterrestrial intrusions against human sovereignty.

Dr. Salla and his colleagues, suggest that Manipulative Extraterrestrials have seduced human elites by appealing to their greed, and to a pursuit of insatiable drive for power. Allegedly, Manipulative Extraterrestrials are providing human elites with access to exotic technologies, in exchange for the unimpeded use of "biological materials", and other planetary "resources". The result, according to Dr. Salla, is the formation of an "Extraterrestrial-Military-Industrial Complex", consolidated through a relationship of ego, that is then applied against the affirmation human free will. The alleged goal of this relationship of convenience is the creation of a "New World Order".

In order to pursue the creation of a New World Order, Dr. Salla alleges the use of an exotic technological capability to artificially generate natural disasters, that includes weather modification.

Naomi Klein, documents a context of predatory capitalism, where elites are seeking to use natural disasters as a de-stabilization pretext for stealing local natural resources from foreign governments that would otherwise resist such capitalist overtures. Naomi Klein documents a "Reconstruction Industry", creating elaborate plans for natural disasters, with elites already cued up ready to commercially benefit from ecologic ruin and ensuing human suffering.
Corporate profit cartoon    
     

We used to have vulgar colonialism," says Shalmali Guttal, a Bangalore-based researcher with Focus on the Global South. "Now we have sophisticated colonialism, and they call it 'reconstruction.'"

In the article titled "False Flag Operations, 911, and the Exopolitical Perspective", Dr. Michael Salla indicates "False flag operations using weather modification technologies are used to shift blame onto 'unpredictable' environmental factors," when in fact such technologies are being used as an instrument of capitalism. Dr. Salla indicates that such exotic Manipulative Extraterrestrial inspired technologies "can be used to create natural disasters or events that coerce nations."

In her article titled "Disaster Capitalism: State of Extortion" published on 1 July 2008, in The Nation. LINK, Naomi Klein notes that recently "the disaster capitalists have been busy." These include private firefighters already on the scene in Northern California's wildfires, to land grabs in cyclone-hit Burma, to the housing bill making its way through Congress."

On National Public Radio's To the Point, Fadhil Chalabi, one of the primary Iraqi advisers to the Bush Administration in the lead-up to the invasion, recently described the war as "a strategic move on the part of the United States of America and the UK to have a military presence in the Gulf in order to secure [oil] supplies in the future." Chalabi, who served as Iraq's oil under secretary and met with the oil majors before the invasion, described this as "a primary objective." Naomi Klein further documents a mass privatization of Iraq under elites, which has resulted in a much lower quality-of-living for Iraqis, than had existed before the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Dr. Salla links a regressive alien linked explication for Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine", which suggests that "Disaster Capitalism" is being enabled by access to Extraterrestrial exotic technologies. Dr. Salla and Ms. Klein both broadly allege that natural disasters have become a part strategic planning that is linked to corresponding pre-emptive war planning.

Naomi Klein documents that, "It certainly seems that ever-larger portions of the globe are under active reconstruction; being rebuilt by a parallel government made up of a familiar cast of for-profit consulting firms, engineering companies, mega-NGOs, government and UN aid agencies and international financial institutions. And from the people living in these reconstruction sites -- Iraq to Aceh in Indonesia, Afghanistan to Haiti -- a similar chorus of complaints can be heard. The work is far too slow, if it is happening at all." Dr. Salla explicates that Manipulative Extraterrestrials are also part of this clique of interests, that seeks to provide a strategic role in a power grab, at the expense of the affirmation of human rights.

Klein further elaborates that, "Foreign consultants live high on cost-plus expense accounts and thousand-dollar-a-day salaries, while locals are shut out of much-needed jobs, training and decision making. Expert "democracy builders" lecture governments on the importance of transparency and "good governance" yet most contractors and NGOs refuse to open their books to those same governments, let alone give them control over how their aid money is spent.".

Welcome to the planning for a "New World Order", that Dr. Salla elaborates upon, where a regressive alien inspired fascism and greed reigns as the substantive context for governance.

But if the reconstruction industry is stunningly inept at rebuilding, that may be because rebuilding is not its primary purpose. According to Guttal, "It's not reconstruction at all -- it's about reshaping everything." If anything, the stories of corruption and incompetence serve to mask this deeper scandal: the rise of a predatory form of disaster capitalism that uses the desperation and fear created by catastrophe to engage in radical social and economic engineering. Ms. Klein then further documents, "And on this front, the reconstruction industry works so quickly and efficiently that the privatizations and land grabs are usually locked in before the local population knows what hit them."

That is the operation of "Shock Doctrine" in general. Dr. Salla's Exopolitical insights suggests that access to Extraterrestrial exotic technologies to instigate apparent "natural" disasters, are in fact, used to destabilize societies.

It is notable that the first initial waves of pledged "AID" to Burma, for example, was reported in the mass-media to have been actively resisted, because governments in such disaster torn countries seem to have been noticing the deploying of a clandestine "Shock Doctrine".
     
Klein notes from a Sri Lankan witness that Sri Lanka is now facing "a second tsunami of corporate globalization and militarization," potentially even more devastating than the first. "We see this as a plan of action amidst the tsunami crisis, to hand over the sea and the coast to foreign corporations and tourism, with military assistance from the U.S. Marines."

Now the World Bank, notes Ms. Klein, "is using the December 26 tsunami to push through its cookie-cutter policies. The most devastated countries have seen almost no debt relief, and most of the World Bank's emergency aid has come in the form of loans, not grants." But, "rather than emphasizing the need to help the small fishing communities-more than 80 percent of the wave's victims -- the bank is pushing for expansion of the tourism sector and corporate fish farms." In addition, "as for the damaged public infrastructure, like roads and schools, bank documents recognize that re-building them "may strain public finances" and suggests privatization.

As in other "reconstruction sites", from Haiti to Iraq, tsunami relief has little to do with recovering what was lost. Although hotels and industry have already started reconstructing on the coast, in Sri Lanka, Thailand, Indonesia and India, governments, under the direction of capitalistocratic elites, have passed laws preventing families from rebuilding their oceanfront homes. These are the same elites that Dr. Salla and colleagues links to an Manipulative Extraterrestrial agenda to combine with human elites, to reshape planet Earth into an exploitative and oppressive "New World Order".

Hundreds of thousands of people are being forcibly relocated inland, to military style barracks in Aceh, Indonesia, and to prefab concrete boxes in Thailand. Naomi Klein documents that, "the coast is not being rebuilt as it was -- dotted with fishing villages and beaches strewn with handmade nets. Instead, governments, corporations and foreign donors are teaming up to rebuild it as they would like it to be: the beaches as playgrounds for tourists, the oceans as watery mines for corporate fishing fleets, both serviced by privatized airports and highways built on borrowed money."
Condoleezza Rice    

According to the U.S. President George W Bush administration's Condoleezza Rice, a Tsunami is a "wonderful opportunity".
   

Ms. Klein then notes that, "in January Condoleezza Rice sparked a small controversy by describing the tsunami as "a wonderful opportunity" that "has paid great dividends for us." Many were horrified at the idea of treating a massive human tragedy as a chance to seek advantage." To underscore Rice's assertions, Ms. Klein indicates that "A group calling itself Thailand Tsunami Survivors and Supporters says that for "businessmen-politicians, the tsunami was the answer to their prayers, since it literally wiped these coastal areas clean of the communities which had previously stood in the way of their plans for resorts, hotels, casinos and shrimp farms. To them, all these coastal areas are now open land!"

In Paul B. Farrell's " War, Terror, Catastophe: Profiting from 'Disaster Capitalism', LINK, he provides a "Hot Tip" -- Invest in Disaster Capitalism." This new investment sector is the core of the emerging "new economy" that generates profits by feeding off other peoples' misery: Wars, terror attacks, natural catastrophes, poverty, trade sanctions, market crashes and all kinds of economic, financial and political disasters.

Mr. Farrell's elaborates that "In this Orwellian future, everything must be seen with new eyes: "Disasters" are "IPOs," opportunities to buy into a new "company." Corporations like Lockheed-Martin are the real "emerging nations" of the world, not some dinky countries. They generate huge profits, grow earnings. And seen through the new rose-colored glasses of "Disaster Capitalism" they are hot investment opportunities.

"Disaster Capitalism" is financing a new world economic order says Klein, not just in "the divide between Baghdad's Green and Red zones" but in other disaster zones, from post-tsunami Sri Lanka to post-Katrina New Orleans.

"Disasters come in many forms: Weapons destroying power plants and hospitals, nature weakening bridges, hurricanes wiping out towns, ideological conflicts turning Africa's farmlands into deserts, global banking systems favouring investors over public works, shopping malls over schools, sewage treatment and power plants, and so on." In a brilliant Harper's excerpt from The Shock Doctrine, Ms. Klein makes clear how this new economy is the wave of the future for certain investors." Dr. Salla's allegations simply helps to illuminate that the regressive alien context is providing the "elbow grease" for the apparent efficient transformation of natural disasters into dystopias that enable elite control and capitalist greed.

[LatinAmericanview]

Manipulative Extraterrestrials

What is this? A bullshit article! Does not need to be here. There are plenty of other forums that could benefit from your insight. However, TIU is not one of them.  Milton please prove that there are Et's and then please prove that they are manipulating elites.

[Ognir]

manipulating elites.

They could be code words  :mrgreen:

[LatinAmericanview]

It could also be the german death cult making contact with the jin! However mostly it is  Jews manipulating people hopes and fears.

[LatinAmericanview]

According to the U.S. President George W Bush administration's Condoleezza Rice, a Tsunami is a "wonderful opportunity".  

Translation- natural disasters create new rule set implementation opportunities. Please reference Kolnidre work on Thomas Barnett

[Milton]

The first sentence of the article says that there is circumstantial evidence of extraterrestrial interference. Spraying chemtrails all night long could also be evidence of something to hide, like what is orbiting the Earth. On the other hand, circumstantial evidence is not absolute proof. I think all the bankers in the world should be rounded up and shipped off to Attica State prison for interrogation into crimes against humanity. The only race that is responsible for all the crimes committed against humanity is the Human race. I thought the article was interesting and I will post what I want to.

[Canard]

Chemtrails have been claimed to do 100's of things, no offense but we aren't looking for wild speculation here.  You can post what you want to but if its ridiculous your ass may be out the door or worse youll have zero credibility and no one will you any regard.  Just something to think about.  Stay focused and on topic people.

[LatinAmericanview]

The first sentence of the article says that there is circumstantial evidence of extraterrestrial interference. Spraying chemtrails all night long could also be evidence of something to hide, like what is orbiting the Earth. On the other hand, circumstantial evidence is not absolute proof. I think all the bankers in the world should be rounded up and shipped off to Attica State prison for interrogation into crimes against humanity. The only race that is responsible for all the crimes committed against humanity is the Human race. I thought the article was interesting and I will post what I want to.

Here is support for my claims:

The latest Off Tangent Show with Latin

Topics covered:

ET
UFOs
Mind control
Religion
E-mail
Anal Probe

small sample:

"To most of 1,200,000 U. S. radio listeners who ran for the exits, peered down the pike for Martian invaders or otherwise conducted themselves oddly on the night before Halloween 1938, the Orson Welles broadcast based on H. G. Wells's The War of the Worlds remains a booful, baleful memory.* They will perhaps never think of Mercer County, N. J. except as the place where a series of rocket-machines once fictionally landed, loosing battalions of huge extra-terrestrial monsters. For those interested in 1) owning a copy of the celebrated script (with indicated sound effects); 2) enjoying a learned laugh over the things it made people do; 3) studying U. S. behavior when a panic is on, The Invasion from Mars,* provides a lively, sympathetic anatomizing of the Wells-Welles ruckus by Psychologist Hadley Cantril and a special staff of Princeton's Radio Research Project."

http://theinfounderground.com/ftp/lav/offt05.mp3

[sullivan]

The first sentence of the article says that there is circumstantial evidence of extraterrestrial interference. Spraying chemtrails all night long could also be evidence of something to hide, like what is orbiting the Earth.

So all those who live in areas not 'sprayed with chemtrails' should presumably be able to see this thing 'orbiting the Earth'?

On the other hand, circumstantial evidence is not absolute proof. I think all the bankers in the world should be rounded up and shipped off to Attica State prison for interrogation into crimes against humanity. The only race that is responsible for all the crimes committed against humanity is the Human race.

True, nobody is perfect, but those who are unaware of their imperfection are far more dangerous than others, particularly when they wield significant power.

I thought the article was interesting and I will post what I want to.

Maybe, but be prepared to critique or defend it if it is particularly off-the-wall. Also, it might help to remember that your right to 'post what you want to' is not absolute - you don't own the domain or pay the hosting bills.

[Ytene]

Hi Milton,

I think caution (extreme caution actually) with Naomi (Jewess) Klein's book is well advised. But her dysinfo is part of a metalanguage code that may be of interest to this website. If you follow the works of Michael Hoffman - he calls this 'revelation of method.'

There are lots and lots of schtick scripts for managing the sheeple and advancing the political agenda of the Jewish owned / operated scams for the control of nations. The money scam is only one. There is also the 'mind game'.  I would put Klein's book into this category.  

Usually they run this crap at the box offic to see how it takes on the mass mind.  One such script is, of course, the bad guy extraterrestials attack earth. Chaos. Woe. Catastrophe. Fear. Fear. Fear. Lots of mothers huddling with children cowering in terror. The good guy Jew and Black heroes S.A.V.E. the day, unite the earth (that theme again), fight the common foe. "And then the world will live as one."  Imagine. This is basically the script of "Independence Day."

I think this schtick could run.  

Anti-gravity, scalar technology is a reality. It is not however known by most people to exist. According to engineer Thomas Beardon, this technology was funded by the U.S. taxpayer and appropriated by private interests in cahoots with the U.S. gov't and then illegally suppressed.  It was disappeared from public domain. Suppression of this technology violates Article 1, sec 8, clause 8 of the U.S. Constitiution.

Now if you have a population that is in ignorance of scalar technology and thinks that energy ocmes from fossil fuels, then it might be possible (indeed I think it very likely) that you could convince such a population that their own technology which has been seized by Elite interests is an invasion of extra-terrestials and use it in the service of a political agenda.

Why not have a look at Bearden's website. Complete with refs, info and technical and engineering data. www.cheniere.org.

[Milton]

First of all Naomi Klein's book says nothing about and makes no reference to extraterrestrials. She demonstrates how the elites have used disasters to ram through society shattering changes to national laws and institutions. She is against the Israeli occupation of Palestine and is publically critical of the inhumane treatment that Israel has meted out to the Palestinians.

Media Advisory

Alliance of Concerned Jewish Canadians
ACJC

Independent Jewish Canadians meet to form alternative to Canadian Jewish Congress; Naomi Klein to kick off conference

More than 100 Jewish activists from across Canada will gather March 28-30th, 2008 in Toronto at a conference to form a network of anti-occupation groups dedicated to building real peace and justice in the Middle East.

Convened by the Alliance of Concerned Jewish Canadians (ACJC), the conference will gather Canadian Jews belonging to 18 groups who are coming together to challenge the views of the Canadian Jewish Congress, the Canada-Israel Committee and B'nai Brith, along with the Stephen Harper government—
all of whom uncritically support the Israeli government's violations of international and humanitarian law.


Author Naomi Klein will kick off the conference this Friday evening with a talk entitled "The challenges facing us: Why we need a Canadian Jewish progressive movement". The meeting is being held at the Steelworkers' Hall, 25 Cecil St. in Toronto.

Participants share a common opposition to Israel's occupation of the West Bank and siege of Gaza as well as the Harper government's one-sided approach to the crisis in the region. The meeting will also include non-Jewish allies who share the ACJC's concern about what is happening in the West Bank and Gaza and who wish to work together with the ACJC in common pursuit of a lasting peace, based on justice for all of the peoples of the region. They include Katherine Nastovsky, Canadian Union of Public Employees; Deborah Bourke, Canadian Union of Postal Workers; Vicky Obedkoff, United Church; Khaled Moummar, Canadian Arab Federation; and Chris Jones, Canadian Peace Alliance.

Media are invited to hear Naomi Klein as well as a panel of representatives from international Jewish organizations that share ACJC's concerns about the Middle East including:

• Jewish Voice for Peace from the U.S.
• Brit Tzedek v'Shalom from the U.S.
• Independent Jewish Voices from the U.K.
• The International Jewish Solidarity Network
• European Jews For Just Peace



*Toronto: Independent Jewish Canadians unite to create alternative to the CJC* #8232;#8232;More than 100 Jews from 26 cities across Canada met March 28-30 to form an organization committed to promoting real peace and justice in the Middle East. Convened by the Alliance of Concerned Jewish Canadians (ACJC), the conference brought together Canadian Jews belonging to 18 different groups to offer an alternative to the uncritical support of Israeli policies by the Canadian Jewish Congress, the Canada-Israel Committee and B'nei Brith, as well as those of the Harper government. The new organization will instead advocate for Canadian policies which respect international and humanitarian law.

Award-winning Jewish-Canadian author Naomi Klein presented the keynote address, "Whatever you do, don't be normal." She called on Canada's Jews to challenge Israel's "normalization" of policies such as torture, targeted assassinations, collective punishment, and permanent war in the name of security. Israel, she explained, depends heavily on both its tourism and its security industries. These are inherently in conflict: for tourists, it needs to project an image of peaceful normalcy, but to justify its demand for massive military aid and uncritical support for its aggressive treatment of Palestinians, it needs to claim to be immanently in peril.

So it is trying to convince the world that it can deliver security through a permanent war on terror. Canada's Harper government is enthusiastically signing onto this dangerous model. For example, she pointed to Israel's plan to pilot an Israel Brand campaign in Toronto. Klein urged progressive Jews to expose the ugly reality beneath the slick Israeli tourism image. #8232; #8232;Representatives of progressive Jewish national groups in the US, the UK, and France all described riding a "tidal wave" of Jewish opposition to Israeli mistreatment of Palestinian people. Although they represented a spectrum of perspectives, all enthusiastically welcomed a solidarity relationship with the emerging Canadian independent Jewish movement.

Speakers included Glen Hauer of Jewish Voice for Peace (the United States), Sue Swartz of Brit Tzedek v'Shalom (the United States), Brian Klug of Independent Jewish Voices (Great Britain), Mariana Viturro and Rivka Bar Zohar of the International Jewish Solidarity Network, and Richard Wagman representing both the European Jews for a Just Peace and l'Union Juive Française pour la Paix.

Representatives of the Canadian Union of Public Employees, the Canadian Union of Postal Workers, the Canadian Arab Federation and the Canadian Peace Alliance also called for a pan-Canadian progressive Jewish voice which can stand in solidarity with their anti-occupation resolutions and calls for boycott, divestment, and sanctions against companies profiting from the Israeli occupation. Sid Ryan, President of CUPE Ontario, described the harassment he and his entire extended family has suffered since he pioneered CUPE's call for targeted sanctions against the Israeli occupation. "We need Jews to stand in solidarity with us," he said.

#8232;Participants unanimously endorsed the following principles: "Human rights are universal and indivisible. This is as applicable in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories as it is elsewhere. Palestinians and Israelis alike have the right to peaceful and secure lives. Peace and stability require the willingness of all parties to the conflict to comply with international law. There is no justification for any form of racism, including anti-Semitism, anti-Arab racism or Islamophobia


The battle against anti-Semitism is undermined whenever opposition to Israel's government policy is automatically branded as anti-Semitic." #8232;Diana Ralph, ACJC's official spokesman, called the weekend conference, the largest gathering of progressive Canadian Jews ever, "an unqualified success." "Jews critical of Israel's government policies need a coherent, effective way to express their opinions and to work for change," she said. "We have launched an organization that will let us do just that." Participants planned strategic campaigns to:

Ally with unions, churches, and peace groups which have taken anti-occupation stands
Support international and Israeli Jewish peace movements
Grow a progressive Jewish think tank
Challenge Islamophobia in solidarity with Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs.


The writer of the article I posted is the one who threw ET's into the mix.  When I first read the article I thought that he had messed the article up by injecting ET's into it.Then I wodered how  these disasters occur at just the moment when change for the better is about to take place? In specific, cyclones, hurricanes, earthquakes, tidal waves and terrorist attacks which result in large numbers of people , who would have to be dealt with equitably, to be disposed of by shock and awe dispensed by Mother Nature or some dipshit's armed forces.

I work outside all year round and I observe the sky carefully a number of times throughout the day. I rarely see the stars anymore, too much chemtrail crap in the way. Why would they spray in the early evening and throughout the night?


The question I have is how  these elite bastards are managing to control the weather, cause earthquakes, tidal waves, hurricanes and all other manner of shit storms? Is their answer to global warming to paint the sky shut? The sun causes global warming hence the sun is shut out. Or are there other reasons for drawing the curtains.I am not talking about the infantile crap pandered on TV, ie shape shifting aliens, whose intellectual abilities are less than our own, invading Earth. I am talking about hiding spaceships from public view so that people will continue to believe that we are the only intelligent species in the universe.

All these events could be being caused by man made activities, ie strategically  placed nukes causing underwater landslides which in turn cause a tidal wave which in turn scours a chunk of Indonesia and kills off the natives who lived there and were opposed to the oil companies poisoning their water and polluting their air and stealing their land , or mini nukes strategically placed in World Trade 1,2 and 7 which give an excuse for violating the Geneva Conventions and the  Nuremburg laws and declaring war on an idea, ie terrorism, which can only mean that they are declaring war on anybodies mind who does not make the right choice, ie "You are either with us or with the terrorists".

Have we developed weather control technology ? Do we have scalar technology? Energy producing devices are great but they are not of the same technological advancement as weather control devices would be, IMO.

[LatinAmericanview]

Milton- what you are talking about is trigger events that change rule sets.  Please read Kolnidre's thread pertaining to Thomas Barnett.  Honestly invest aome time to understand how the social engineering systems work.

http://theinfounderground.com/ftp/lav/a ... ecture.mp3

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[Milton]

I listened to the lecture you provided. Are you kidding me? You actually bought into that propaganda exercise? You should spend some time researching the history of the world then you might understand that the map is not the territory. The social engineering systems don't work, that is why they have armies, they make the people fit the machine.

[Ytene]

Hi Milton,

Of course Ms Klein is against the inhumane treatment that Israel has meted out to Palestinians.  Of course her (worthless) tome is being touted as a must read for an international Jewish led peace movement for 'human sovereignty' sponsored by B'nei B'rith! Ha Ha. You are taking this seriously?!  This is a very shewd move on the part of B'nei B'rith. Very shrewd and they will sidetrack, con and parasitize the energize of many well intentioned people with this total crapola.

The reason why this farce is shaping up, Milton,  is because the mighty NET over (which they do not have information dominance) has forced an organization like B'nei B'rith to get in a script doctor. I have just finished reading Kolnidre's comments in this area. And yes, he definitely has their number.

Ms Klein's worthless thesis is essentially that The Problem is robber baron capitalism (through which the term 'railroaded' passed into American speech), that is big C capitalism - the market rules as a blind force by chance. So the 'market forces' dictate 'natural disasters' like small pox blankets for the Indians (bio-warfare), man made floods and famines to appropriate resources of populations.  This mythology ruled the 19th century game.

If you are following the threads on this blog (are you following these threads I wonder) and maybe a handful of other websites, then you know about this con-job of the Market operating in and of itself . What we are really looking at is a few Jewish owned Reserve Banks of issue and their corporate structure. These banks own nations, in effect, extinguishing national sovereignty de facto. These banks are cartelized and actually operate as subsidiaries of one bank - the Bank of Settlements in Basle, Suisse (apropriately pronounced Ba' al, by the way).  The owners of that Bank and the owners of the Consols of the Bank of England will someday go onto the NET. And when they do, Ms Klein's 19th century thesis will be clearly seen for the dysinformation and con-job that it is. Capitalism is not a force or an operation of itself, it is bank policy for nations.

You are the one, Milton, who has made the connection between Ms Klein's diversionary tome and Salla's E.T. scenario.  I do not ascribe so much originality to Ms Klein.

But it is  your question about scalar technology (of which HAARP is only one example) - this rhetorical flourish intrigues me. I gave you a ref http://www.cheniere.org as the place to start researching this stuff. This material is either out there to be investigated or it isn't. There is no rhetoric about it. Check out Beardon's material, follow his links. Then you tell me if you think  scalar energy is being weaponized or not. Don't divert the focus.

If what I am asserting checks out and scalar technology remains covert, then the Men Behind the Curtain in Oz need a script for its special FX that will play at the box office. Salla's idea of weather modifying E.T.s is just a version of the Independence Day script pitched to an audience that doesn't watch their stupid movies.

[LatinAmericanview]

But it is your question about scalar technology (of which HAARP is only one example) - this rhetorical flourish intrigues me. I gave you a ref http://www.cheniere.org as the place to start researching this stuff. This material is either out there to be investigated or it isn't. There is no rhetoric about it. Check out Beardon's material, follow his links. Then you tell me if you think scalar energy is being weaponized or not. Don't divert the focus.

If what I am asserting checks out and scalar technology remains covert, then the Men Behind the Curtain in Oz need a script for its special FX that will play at the box office. Salla's idea of weather modifying E.T.s is just a version of the Independence Day script pitched to an audience that doesn't watch their stupid movies.

 The research for the scripts is done at various think tanks, i.e Tavistock et al. The military and the banking guild then analyze the scenarios (the barnet lecture posted by Kolnidre) and then it is flown up the flag pole to see who salutes.  The Scalar research is sobering.

[Ralph Furely]

interesting discussion

[Milton]

I went to the link you provided, http://www.cheniere.org  , but I couldn't find any "scalar research". Can you fine tune your link a little? I really don't have time to wade through reams of archaic nomenclature. I kept thinking that Beardon was going to get to the point where he actually said something but it didn't happen. This doesn't mean that the material there is irrelevant, there is a lot of material and I don't have time to sift through it all, which is why I request a finer tuned link.

Some examples of misdirected pointers. He kept referring to vacuums, there is no such event. The electromagnetic spectrum is everywhere every when. As for time there is only one time and that is now. It is always and only now. Why do the oldsters think that there are only 4 dimensions? 90 degrees is not one of Mother Nature's favorite  axises.

[Ytene]

Hi Milton,

It is not my job to do your research for you.

But for those who are not up to researching a new scientific paradigm and scalar EM technology (that would be 'reams of archaic nomenclature to you), a good introductory approach would be The Brave New World of Scalar EM" -   www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm. Please see the important sections 'Tapping the Waves' and 'Psychoenergetics'. Bearden's website is complex and written for those who are prepared to do some serious thinking and experimentation. Perhaps you should work up to it.

What is of interest to me is that while scalar EM longitudinal waves are being tested in Iraq, you prefer to pontificate about "there is no such event"  as the vacuum. Not in your scientific paradigm (undoubtedly learned at university). But the cutting edge does not think like you, MIlton. The cutting edge knows that everything in existance has its own vibrational signature. Tap the free energy from the universe out of the vacuum and calibrate a scalar vibration to that signature and you can shatter any object like high C will shatter a champagne glass. In fact, the real cutting edge has been thinking along vibrational lines since the physicist Ernst Chladni mounted a plate on a violin, sprinkled sand over it and after playing a concerto demonstrated the geometrical properties of vibration.

Snide references to 'oldsters' whose thinking is limited to four dimensions is just more diversionary and irrelevant rhetoric. A bit like your E.T. crisis in previous posts.

I have personally seen two 13 year old boys from the local home school network get onto the NET and Bearden's manuals and build a Tesla coil (which liberates power from the vacuum) to power their dirt bikes for the off road, cross country - a big event with the 13 year old guys in my locale. And the properties of violet ray that arced from those bikes and the 03 it liberated had effects that anyone not encumbered with an out of date mind warp and limited time / attention span would have been interested in.

Perhaps your time, Milton, should be space / time.

[Milton]

I have personally seen two 13 year old boys from the local home school network get onto the NET and Bearden's manuals and build a Tesla coil (which liberates power from the vacuum) to power their dirt bikes for the off road, cross country - a big event with the 13 year old guys in my locale.

You claim to have seen it yet you have done nothing since. Hmmm, how strange. FYI a vacuum is a no-event and as it does not exist you will  get no event from it . You seem to have a problem defining your terms,  you must overcome this or you will not be precise.

[Ytene]

Hi Milton,

In your scientific paradigm, a vacuum is a no event.  In other (more interesting paradigms) it is an event horizon.

And you know for a fact, do you, that having seen a Tesla Coil (albeit a prototype) in operation that I have done nothing. Not that this would prove anything. But hey. If I believed in such malarky as a Jewish peace movement for 'human sovereignty' and MidEast peace sponsored by B'nei B'rith, I would certainly have just called the Dysinformation Industry right up and made a report. I know how our leaders in their ignorance are just waiting for advanced knowledge to help us with all our problems. And there is probably some corporation that would love to invest and get this up and running. Sure, Milton. Sure.

Scalar EM is advanced technology, but its nothing that the thirteen yr olds in the home schools can't figure out. This year they are building Tesla Coils, next year they will be accelerating matter in and out of 5th dimension. I am sure TIU has a list of organizations and persons that would like to see dispatched into the phantom zone as soon as possible.