A Great Big Uh, Oh for Jews

[Wimpy]

Coins found under Jerusalem's Western Wall hints that sacred site NOT built by Herod.

The need of jews to compulsively lie is beyond this poor goy.  The

Temple Mount had been completed only by King Agrippa II, Herod's great-grandson, two decades before the entire compound was destroyed.

To what advantage was there not to reveal this?...The Wailing Wall, built by our most fantastically specially revered, er-uh, King Agrippa II.  Yeah, Herod does sound better. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  

http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2012/07/coins-found-under-jerusalems-western.html

By Rob Waugh

        Ancient site holy to both Jews AND Muslims

        Coins stamped with successor to Pontius Pilate

        Construction 'had not even begun' by Herod's death

        The history of one of the world's holiest sites - sacred to both Jews and Muslims - is set to be rewritten, following a surprise discovery in a ritual bath beneath the complex.

        Two ancient bronze coins, which according to Israel Antiquities Authority archaeologists were struck by the Roman procurator of Judea, Valerius Gratus, in the year 17/18 CE - raising questions over the history of Jerusalem

        Two ancient bronze coins, which

        according to Israel Antiquities Authority

        archaeologists were struck by the Roman

        procurator of Judea, Valerius Gratus, in

        the year 17/18 CE - raising questions over

        the history of Jerusalem

       It proves that the Wall - supposedly built by Herod, the Jewish king who features prominently in the Gospels, was in fact built much later.

        Newly found coins underneath Jerusalem's Western Wall could change the accepted belief about the construction of one of the world's most sacred sites two millennia ago, Israeli archaeologists said Wednesday.

        The man usually credited with building the compound known to Jews as the Temple Mount and to Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary is Herod, a Jewish ruler who died in 4 B.C.

        Herod's monumental compound replaced and expanded a much older Jewish temple complex on the same site.

        But archaeologists with the Israel Antiquities Authority now say diggers have found coins underneath the massive foundation stones of the compound's Western Wall that were stamped by a Roman proconsul 20 years after Herod's death...full story>>

        Coins found under Jerusalem's Western Wall hints that sacred site NOT built by Herod

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

:shh:

Jews actually bow and worship at a "Pagan" temple to "Saturn" or "Jupiter"    (which incidentally includes many dumb*ss American politicians as well)  :

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=14890&hilit=Temple+Solomon#p61800

The sequence from Herod's Temple, to Temple of Jupiter, to Dome of the Rock:

From 2 Macc 6, we learn that in 167 BC, Antiochus IV Epiphanes attacked Jerusalem setting up a temple to Jupiter and offering pig sacrifices. He ordered the Jews to worship idols and stop keeping the Sabbath and practicing circumcision. A major theme in 2 Macc is that the Jews triumph over Antiochus in the end and regain control of the temple again.

After Titus destroyed the Temple in 70 AD, Hadrian became Caesar in 117 - 138 AD. Hadrian, revisits the actions of he predecessor Antiochus IV Epiphanes and sets up a Temple of Jupiter on the Temple mount, ordering circumcision to cease and expelling the Jews from Jerusalem altogether. He not only made himself the object of worship in this temple, but made Jerusalem the capital city of the Roman world for the worship of Jupiter. He also built an temple to Jupiter in Baalbek, Lebanon that is still standing today. Just as Hitler deceived British Prime Minister Chamberlain in 1938 AD that there would be "peace in our time", so too Hadrian deceived the Jews to believe that he was peacefully rebuilding the Jewish Temple, when in fact he was constructing the world headquarters "Temple of Jupiter". As construction began, the Jews probably even helped in thankfulness and praise to Hadrian. But when the Jews finally learned of Hadrian's true intent, as did England learn of Hitler's, they rebelled and a huge war broke out in 132 AD where 85 major Jewish towns were destroyed and 580,000 Jewish men were killed. The false promises of peace of Hadrian and Hitler both resulted in major holocausts against the Jews. Israel came to the promised land with about 600,000 men and they were finally expelled from the land by having about 600,000 men killed by Hadrian. The Temple of Jupiter was completed on the temple mount in 135 AD and was the most important (Jupiter Capitolinus) "Temple to Jupiter" in the world. While the Jews of Hadrian's time may have been looking for the story of 2 Maccabees conclude with a similar victory for the Jews, Hadrian was likely reminded of the same 2 Macc. text to make sure the ending was different.

Arch of Titus
Imperial Cortege with Jupiter featured
Triumphator in his four-horse chariot, from the Arch of Titus

In 361 AD, Julian the Apostate tried to reverse Constantine's anti-pagan, pro-Christian influence and he gave permission to the Jews to come and rebuild the Jewish temple on the temple mount. The Jews dug up the foundations of and excavated the temple mount. In May 363 AD an earthquake that caused an explosion of underground gases on the temple mount, ended the Jewish efforts to rebuild the temple.

In 400 AD, Jerome's commentary on Matthew mentions an equestrian statue of the Emperor Hadrian was still standing directly over the site of the Holy of the Holies. Perhaps Constantine wanted to keep the statues of Hadrian on the site as a reminder to the Jews that God was unhappy with them for crucifying His Son Jesus. On the other hand, the Jews would surely remove the statue in 361 AD, when they tried to rebuild the temple. Yet if all this knowledge was available to Jerome in 400 AD, after such a statue had been removed, it would have been known to Constantine, who destroyed the Temple of Jupiter 75 years earlier. It appears that Constantine was under the impression that the Jewish temple was located over the "rock". Perhaps someone brought back the statue from where the Jews removed it after 363 AD, as a message to the Jews their temple would never be rebuilt and that they should believe in Jesus. In spite of these conflicting problems in the history that we have, if we use the Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek as a model, this would place the Holy of the Holies at the El Kas foundation, for that is where Hadrian would likely place his statue of himself riding a horse. Jerome wrote in 400 AD, "So when you see the standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation... or to the statue of the mounted Hadrian, which stands to this very day on the site of the Holy of Holies." (Jerome, Commentary on Matthew 24.15, 400 AD)

In 400 AD, Jerome's letter to Paulinus stated that Hadrian had marked all the "holy sites" with idols. These included Venus at the birth cave in Bethlehem, Venus at Golgotha, and Jupiter at the site of the tomb. It would seem very consistent that Hadrian would indeed put a statue of himself over the very spot of the Holy of Holies. Jerome wrote in 400 AD: "From the time of Hadrian to the reign of Constantine—a period of about one hundred and eighty years [Hadrian died in 138 A.D.; Constantine became Emperor in 306 A.D.] -the spot which had witnessed the resurrection was occupied by a figure of Jupiter; while on the rock where the cross had stood, a marble statue of Venus was set up by the heathen and became an object of worship. The original persecutors, indeed, supposed that by polluting our holy places they would deprive us of our faith in the passion and in the resurrection. Even my own Bethlehem, as it now is, that most venerable spot in the whole world of which the psalmist sings: "the truth hath sprung out of the earth," was overshadowed by a grove of Tammuz, that is of Adonis; and in the very cave where the infant Christ had uttered His earliest cry lamentation was made for the paramour of Venus." (Jerome, Letter 58. To Paulinus, 3, 400 AD)

In 1884 AD, Charles Warren, claimed to have not only seen one of Hadrian's statues of Jupiter but even read the inscription at the base of the statue. Here are Charles Warren actual field notes from 1884 AD: "Hadrian erected a statue of Jupiter (still in position when seen by the Bordeaux Pilgrim) on the site of the Temple (Jerome, Comm. on Isaiah ii. 8 and on Matt. xxiv. 15), and the inscription which was cut on its base is still recognizable on a large stone built upside down into the south wall of the Haram near the Double Gate. According to Eusebius (Vita Const. iii. 26) and Jerome (Epit. xlix.), Hadrian also built a Temple of Venus on the site of the present Church of the Holy Sepulchre; but of this no remains have been recognised. A coin of Antoninus Pius represents such a temple as existing in Jerusalem. Among the other public buildings of this period were two markets, a theatre, a mint, a tricameron, a tetranymphon, and a dodekapylon ('Paschal Chronicle'), but none of these have been recognised. It is, however, supposed on architectural grounds that the so-called Ecce Homo arch was a triumphal entry (similar to that at Jerash, beyond jordan) erected by Hadrian, or by one of his immediate successors, in the second century A.D. The attempt of the Emperor Julian to rebuild the Jerusalem Temple in the fourth century failed entirely; in 333 A.D. the enclosure was found still in ruins by the Bordeaux Pilgrim. According to Eusebius, it would appear that a church already existed on Olivet when Helena visited the city in 326 A.D. According to Epiphanius, seven synagogues were found by Hadrian on Sion, one of which still existed in the fourth century, according to the Bordeaux Pilgrim. Epiphanius also speaks of the Sion Church (the later Coenaculum) as existing in the time of Hadrian. A cemetery of tombs in the lady Rababeh belonging to this church will be found described in a later page under the name of that valley." (The Survey of Western Palestine, Charles Warren and Claude Reigner Conder, 1884)