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CrackSmokeRepublican

August 28, 2012, 02:51:05 AM


QuoteA Visit to The Hitler Bar
December 16, 2000

  :shh:  ;)

I first heard about the Hitler bar on our Discussion Board.  I thought I knew what to expect, but was still shocked to see the neon swastikas and larger than life Hitler saluting next to the 7/11. While trying to discreetly photograph the Hitler writing that is painted on the walls leading up to the bar, a man approached and asked what we were doing. It turned out to be the owner, Mr. Hong, who invited us in, brought us a couple of orange juices and answered a few questions.

Below is a very paraphrased summary:

 "Why did you choose Hitler as the theme for your bar?"

    I wanted to design a beer bar with something shocking that would attract the young generation.  Beer got me thinking about Germany (the home of beer) which made me think of Hitler.

"What do you personally think of Hitler and his ideas?"

    Well, of course, I learned that he was a 'bad guy' and did many bad things, but he is no different than Alexander the Great or Gengis Khan. They were all conquerors who killed many people and they are all 'big men' in the sense of their notoriety living on long after they died.

"What do you want to say to who are upset or angered by the idea of a Hitler Bar?"

    I sort of understand why they are upset, but not completely. The other day, two Canadians came in.  They  were very angry and yelled at me.  I wanted to tell them that I'm not supporting Hitler's ideas, it's just a style of decoration I chose to appeal to the new generation. I didn't mean to create bad feelings with foreigners.

Dec15$09.jpgAs we talked more, Mr. Hong seemed to have some regrets about his choice of themes, but having spent more than 50,000,000 won on decor, he didn't know what he was going to do.  He does plan to replace the square sign of Dicaprio and Winslet next to the 7/11 banner with an English message explaining that his decor has no ideological meaning and was not meant to offend. He also said he would send a message to Pusanweb soon addressing the situation.

  I left feeling that Mr. Hong was not a bad person, just a guy who thought he had a great idea for a bar and was genuinely surprised by the negative reaction.  In discussing this with other Koreans afterward, I was shocked by how different our thinking was on the subject. I haven't talked to that many Koreans or foreigners about this and the hour is quite late as I type this, so I don't mean to make any unwarranted generalizations.  I do my best to avoid the 'Koreans this and Foreigners that' kind of thinking and one of the main goals of this site is to encourage mutual understanding between the local and foreign communities here.  I think we have our work cut out for ourselves on this one.  In hopes of encouraging that mutual understanding,  I encourage visitors to (civilly) express their views on our Discussion Board.

Jeff Lebow

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    Below is a rough tranlation of the note that just arrived from Mr. Hong and the original Korean.
 

    Dear foreign customers,

    I am the owner of "Adolph Hitler Bar".
    I've been snubbed by some foreign customers ever since I opened a cocktail
    bar named "Hitler".  But I couldn't answer their questions nor explain my thoughts because of the difficulties of different languages.
    I'd like to say that I don't believe that Hitler was a good person either.
    I can totally understand why foreigners are upset. I've learned his brutalities against the peace of the world from books, TV and movies.
    As you know, Korean had a similar situation with Japan during WW2.
    I have upsetting feelings about what Japanese did to Korean as well, If I
    saw a bar name "HiroHitto " in other countries, I should feel the same way.
    I am not a Nazi, the bar name came out at a meeting with interior designer.
    We just wanted a name that can be related to or represent Germany, easy to
    remember and easy to design the interior with. We couldn't think about the
    history point of view when picking the name. The name "Hitler" was totally meaningless, it was nothing more than a material for the business.
    I feel shame and I'd like to make a sincere apology for using the name
    without being able to consider how foreigners might feel. I  also thank to Mr. Lebow and his wife for letting me know my big mistake and giving me the chance to publish a written apology.
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

CrackSmokeRepublican

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August 28, 2012, 03:09:29 AM
Watch out Tim... Little Nazis' all of them....look at the hand signs .. but look quick...  with Black Leather wraps and little Nazi Caps... all at the Hitler Bar..  :lol: ... if the girls dance hard enough a little "Ick-ish UFO" launches from the rooftop...a 21st century "Thule" with the moves... (and legs)... --CSR

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After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

CrackSmokeRepublican

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November 03, 2012, 03:31:09 AM
Been drinking soju at the Hitler Bar:   <lol>

After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

mgt23

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November 03, 2012, 03:44:32 AM
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......fit legs
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