“Off Tangent Show” # 19 with your host John Savage

[LatinAmericanview]

John Savage analyzes Daryl Bradfords Smith Radio show.  Again, we offer constructive criticism and expand on the knowledge base of our understanding of the Jewish Question.  In order to understand our position you will need some reference sources. Please listen to DBS's interview with Kay Griggs.

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradf ... riggs.html
it is the interview where Griggs talks about the founding fathers.

On a sad note:

Our family has been reduced in number. We offer a heart felt condolence to our fellow brother- Mobes.
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[Anonymous]

Good comments Mr. Savage, although I didn't like the format of the show.

[TarasBulba]

Where's # 19 ? I need my fix !

[Ognir]

http://theinfounderground.com/ftp/lav/oft19.mp3

[Ognir]

You seem to have a love for Freemasons, strange show
Not fully sure I understand you critique of DBS

[Anonymous]

You seem to have a love for Freemasons, strange show
Not fully sure I understand you critique of DBS

Well, I don't know if it is love for Freemasons, maybe more of an understanding and appreciation of what they have accomplished and what the Jews have accomplished to acquire "POWER".

It wasn't so much a critique as it was a stimulation of thoughts. I guess the points I was trying to make were that in order to change the current misery, indignity and suffering we would have to be as cunning and dedicated as our opposition, all the while trying to maintain our humanity. This will require many things, not just informing people of the "truth", it requires an ideology, the hearts of the masses to get behind a movement, planning, planning, and more planning and revolution. As I study the situation people have tried to get the info out and have had very little victories against the enemy.

cheers

[LatinAmericanview]

You seem to have a love for Freemasons, strange show
Not fully sure I understand you critique of DBS

I want to make to points.

1. Would anybody blame a general for studying past wars and the tactics of the enemy?  I suspect that the thinking man would applaud his due diligence.

2. DBS seems to advocate the position learn history in order to repeat it.

[Ognir]

Maybe instead of putting words in DBS's mouth,  why not email him as he's well aware of both your shows as someone sent him a clip of your N°18 show

[LatinAmericanview]

That is not fair.  I have mailed DBS several times. Nothing. The important thing is to understand our positions.  What is DBS the only one with an understanding of the truth?  Not once have I heard anything of my people! We do not exist! We are outside the gap.  Again, DBS has brought much information to the forefront. I thank him. We are all in a debt of gratitude.

[Anonymous]

Allow me to impose my perception of the past two shows.

Offt18
Numbers "they" give us cannot be trusted, especially to gauge when the system will crash/fall/implode/burst, etc.  So DBS shows us how he perceives things going, along with Rafeeq.  If you trust the numbers the economists and others are giving us, well go ahead and believe them.  How do you know these honest or fake numbers are going to tell you when the show will end?  For example, given the debacle over subprime mortgages and derivative... we KNOW the system should be face first on the pavement with all the extra cash influx... but... it isn't happening.  And then we all say 'we know why', because they manipulate and control the numbers and are preventing the REAL info from getting to people.  At least that is how I explain the lack of talk about the derivatives inflation of the money supply.  The numbers that economists look at are lies, or these economists know about it but aren't talking (some do, but not many).  So is it "them" that are manipulating the numbers or is it the economists that are lying to us along with others, while they all know the truth?

There are numbers that we know are there, and we know it's bad, and it should be crashing, but it isn't.  This is the issue of LAV's shows about criticizing DBS' discussions where he puts a strong emphasis on "numbers" as indicator that the system/economy will crash for sure this summer, or in October, or then it will be March... etc... maybe it will crash in October, but ther eis no way for us to know.  That is the whole point of the show.  The numbers cannot be relied upon to tell us it will crash by this date, it's soon, etc.

I know it's coming, but I won't be saying it is for sure coming in October.  We know there is too much money, it will cause hyper inflation.  Or if they contract the money supply we go to depression...  something will happen in the future.  When will it happen?  Only "they" can say because "they" control the system.  That is the point.  We can speculate all we want on the "numbers" say this or the "numbers" say that, but we already know the "numbers" don't matter, they are not holding up the system.  The "numbers" are telling us one thing, while something else is happening, i.e. the system continues.  This is why the "numbers" don't mean anything.  The system only uses the numbers to show us what they want us to see.  'Oh my the DOw went down 400 points'... 'Oh God this happened...'.  The "numbers" are telling us it's over, but it's still going on.  It is faith.  We all use it, we all support it, the system will go on.  Only when they decide to show us all the numbers on the News and people go crazy and pull all their money out of the banks, or via selling all stocks to crash market, or bringing derivatives to the front for collection, etc, etc, will it crash.  There are many ways for "them" to do it, but they are the ones to decide, not the "numbers".

So I hope this clears up why the "numbers" cannot be trusted to foretell the future.  I see the numbers and I see that everything should be really expensive with all the extra money in circulation... but it isn't happening.  Will it happen?  I think definitely so, unless they do something to contract the money supply, then we have depression.  Many things can happen that we can see via the amount of cash out there, and the games "they" can play with it to fuck us over.  The "numbers" do not tell us when it will happen.  The "numbers" say it should already be here.  The system will go when "they" make it go, not when the "numbers" say it will.


Offt19
This was not so much a critique, but more of a commentary and additional information added on.  I like hearing new info from Savage's comments, but not hearing DBS' show twice.  I did not enjoy the call-in show much, and I do not like repetition much, so it was not pleasant for me hehehehe.


Neither show was a "hit piece" or anything disparaging to DBS.  It was an attempt to look at the situation in different light, followed by Savage adding additional insight into issues DBS brought up.

As for critiquing and questioning DBS' info.  To look at the info someone is presenting, and analyzing and critiquing it, is not rude or dishonorable.  On top of that apparently Latin attempted to contact DBS, so he was showing him respect to speak with him 1on1, but when that fails the show appears to have been made to address the "numbers" dilemma.  I see nothing taboo or harmful in these shows.  Beware the cult of personality.  DBS is one man, and men make mistakes and each has their own perceptions of things (not that DBS is necessarily making mistakes).  One man questioning another about the info he puts out and the perception he has is not wrong, or harmful.  It is necessary.  That way we look at every angle and get to a proper understanding.  I like DBS' money shows to show us how bad the system is according the the numbers they (Daryl + Rafeeq) are using, but when speculation comes in I don't take head to it as concrete certainty.  

The whore will put out until the pimps kill her off.  As long as we continue to accept it, the numbers will not matter.    That how I sum up Offt18

Peace.

[LatinAmericanview]

Ognir provides me with a platform to clear up some issues.  Thank you

TiU 18th Aug 08 guest Latin

New postby Ognir on Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:50 am
Clear up some issues

Recording about to start

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[TarasBulba]

Great show. Just finished listening to it.

[Papillon]

Where can I find the link to this show, preferably MP3?

Thanks, Papillon.

[joeblow]

The link doesnt work!