Victor Thorn Found Dead From Apparent Suicide

Started by maz, August 01, 2016, 07:13:05 PM

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maz

Looks like he might have been suicided.

Prominent AFP Clinton Researcher Found Dead

QuoteAFP investigative reporter, prominent Clinton researcher, and prolific author Victor Thorn was found dead, the apparent victim of a self-inflicted gunshot wound

Prolific author, AMERICAN FREE PRESS writer and seasoned Clinton researcher Victor Thorn was found at the top of a mountain near his home, the apparent victim of a gunshot wound. Family and some close friends contend Thorn took his own life on his birthday, August 1. Thorn would have been 54.

Some supporters have voiced concerns that yet another prominent critic of the Clintons has turned up dead—this time just after Hillary Clinton secured the Democratic nomination.

Family has countered that there was no evidence of foul play at the scene and that Thorn most likely took his own life.

At this time, however, we are looking into all possibilities. The recent release of Crowning Clinton: Why Hillary Shouldn't Be in the White House and the Hillary (And Bill) trilogy, which has been selling off the shelves at AFP recently—exposing all the dirty secrets the Clintons have tried so hard to conceal over the years—certainly provides a motive for murder.

Thorn recently had some startling success with his research and writing. At the end of 2015, coauthors Roger Stone and Robert Morrow dedicated their book The Clintons' War on Women to Victor, and in the early part of 2016, a prominent publisher in Poland purchased the rights to translate and sell Thorn's Clinton trilogy.

If, in fact, Thorn was taken out by the Clintons, we will, sadly, have to add Thorn's name to the long list of Clinton victims to be found in Thorn's own masterpiece, Hillary (And Bill): The Murder Volume
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I'm going to try and find one of his interviews with Michael Collins Piper that was pretty good and post it.

MikeWB

I remember him from WingTV days. He also wrote an interesting 9/11 book. I think he was a cab driver at some point. Michael Collins Piper liked the guy.

Looks like a murder by suicide to me. All the anti-Clinton people are falling dead. Clinton crime family is tightening their power.

Anyway, RIP.
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rmstock

R.I.P. Victor
Anyone in this branch or line of duty should
be warned now to the hilt. These glee assassins
with unlimited cash are going to `clean house'
around the nation in order for Hillary to enter
the White House. Everyone has his/her price ...

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

yankeedoodle

Heard him maybe 4-5 times on Texe Marr's radio show, and he seemed to really know his stuff.

But, some years ago, he was involved in something really bizarre.  Some clown named Sam Danner turned up on Mike Piper's RBN radio show and claimed that  he witnessed whatever happened at the Pentagon on 911, and Yankee Doodle thought he was total bullshit right from the start, but Mike had him on repeatedly - suspiciously, it seemed, to Yankee Doodle - and, pretty soon, a lot of accusations and name-calling started between Mike and Thorn, on one side, and Eric Hufschmid and Christopher Bollyn, on the other side.  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=danner+911+pentagon&t=opera&ia=web

Total infuriating idiotic bullshit, wasting a LOT of time.  Thorn was right in the middle of this idiocy.  Found this link:
http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/danner2.html

yankeedoodle

John Stadtmiller opened his show today discussing his experience with and knowledge of Victor Thorn.  About 10-15 minutes at the beginning of the show.
http://deagle-network.com/rbn/the-national-intel-report-with-john-stadtmiller-august-1-2016-hour-1/

Idaho Kid

A real shame.  I remember the old bullshit, Yankee.  Never knew what is was all about exactly, but I came to respect Victor for his work.  His Holohoax book is excellent, and he was was an clear and very effective writer and speaker.

Much like the Traficant family, Thorn's family reportedly said "no signs" of foul play.  Not sure how that is generated but I'd say bullshit until proof is provided. 

RIP Victor.   :D:D
"Certainly the Protocols are a forgery, and that is the one proof we have of their authenticity. The Jews have worked with forged documents for the past 24 hundred years, namely ever since they have had any documents whatsoever." - Ezra Pound

yankeedoodle

Agree about his writing and speaking, as I heard him on Texe Marrs.  He redeemed himself, and almost wiped away the very sour - and, suspicious - memory or what had transpired.

Hearing Stadtmiller confirms suspicion.  Don't know.  Books, whoever wrote them, sounded  good on Texe Marrs, so he left something good, even if he may have caused some trouble.

MikeWB

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yankeedoodle

wingtv.net isn't working.  But, link cited above about Sam Danner     http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/danner2.html  is still working.  Did a copy and paste below.




Sam Danner: The Bottom Line

from WING TV

   
During a series of interviews (mid-July, 2006) Sam Danner claimed to have been in our nation's capital on the morning of September 11, 2001 where he allegedly saw a Global Hawk strike the Pentagon. Just so there is no mistake, below are five seperate instances where Sam Danner admits to lying about being at the Pentagon between 9:37-9:41 am on the morning of September 11, 2001 (when the "event" took place); and also his admission that he never saw a Global Hawk (or any other type of aircraft) strike the Pentagon that morning.

===================================

WING TV Interview with Sam Danner (excerpts) - August 10, 2006, 8:45 pm

Victor Thorn: On the morning of September 11, 2001, at approximately 9:37 am, were you at the Pentagon when the Pentagon event took place?

Sam Danner: No sir, I was not at the Pentagon. I was at my home in Hagerstown, Maryland, watching, I guess, the first tower get hit.

Lisa Guliani: Sam, I just want to make it very clear to our listeners. You were NOT at the Pentagon at the moment of impact, correct? You didn't see any impact?

Sam Danner: I was not at the Pentagon at the moment of impact. I was not on Route 27 south at the moment of impact. No, I did not see a Global Hawk hit the Pentagon. I was not present. I was in Hagerstown, Maryland at the time of the collision.

===================================

Dylan Avery's Loose Change Forum (excerpts) - August 8, 2006, 9:15 pm

I am Sam Danner, Matthew Danner's father.

What my son Matthew has told you is very true. I was at home when the World Trade Centers were hit. Yes, I got my son out of bed and we watched it on TV. I lied to you the seeking public on the truth about 9-11.

I did not, and I repeat, did not see anything hit the Pentagon. I lied about the whole alleged crash. However, my encounter with Pentagon officials stands.

I am sorry that I lied to the American Free Press, and I am sorry to Eric Hufschmid and Christopher Bollyn. I am sorry to everyone on this board.

===================================

E-mail from Sam Danner to his son, Matthew Danner - August 4, 2006, 9:44 am (excerpts)

As you well know I sent you and Pickering and Piper and Chris an e-mail saying that I lied about the whole thing.

Do what you have to do, son. I deserve it. I sent everyone an e-mail that I lied, and I am going to contact Piper to make sure that he knows I am the bad guy.

===================================

WING TV Interview with Sam Danner (part two) - August 10, 2006, 8:45 pm

Sam Danner: I just have a wild imagination. But it made the story complete. Because if I said I saw the thing come around, this unknown thing, and because I've got other people - other 9-11 truthseekers - wanting me to see a Global Hawk. That's what they wanted me to see.

Lisa Guliani: Let me stop you right there. Sam, who wanted you to see a Global Hawk?

Sam Danner: You really want me to say that?

Lisa Guliani: Yeah, yeah.

Sam Danner: Eric... umm umm.

Lisa Guliani: Hufschmid?

Sam Danner: Yes. Begins with an "H". Hufschmid.

Lisa Guliani: He wanted you to see a Global Hawk?

Sam Danner: Okay, I wasn't sure. I thought it was a cruise missile that hit it. This is my personal opinion. But I didn't know anything about, you know, about this Global Hawk thing. Eric sent me this picture of this thing, and that jet engine reminded me of a cruise missile. I just went ahead and felt ... that I felt more or less a psychological pressure. He didn't say, "Sam, this is what, you know, you've got to say you saw this." But I felt that this was what I was supposed to say I saw. It flowed good with the story. I can't blame this man. You know, I'm taking the rap for this. But you know, I guess I was helped out, or edged on a little bit. But I'm not blaming him.

Lisa Guliani: Did he send you pictures of any other type of aircraft, or just that one?

Sam Danner: No, ma'am. He just sent me pictures of that particular device.

===================================

Phone Messages from Sam Danner to Matthew Danner (excerpts) - July & August, 2006

Sam Danner: You know I like to mess around with people's minds and stuff. But I know it wasn't a 757 that hit that thing, so I don't know. It doesn't justify telling them a story that was that other thing - that Global Hawk. So yeah, I admit my faults & failures. Yeah, it was outright trash.

Sam Danner: This is something that is 65% true. Yes, it's got some lying in it. All right? I'm gonna deal with that myself. But for that least little glory that I would get, let me have that.

Sam Danner: Eric, the producer, said that the story is too hot to let go because the Pentagon stuff is more important, uhh, than the other thing, the made-up stuff about the Global Hawk and all that crap.

MikeWB

Time to mirror the site before it disappears. Use this software and plug the link above from YD. Set the rule to copy everything from that domain.

https://www.httrack.com/
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Idaho Kid

Ah, Mike, thanks.  I've been meaning to ask how this "saving" or "mirroring" is done. 

It saves a copy of the info to your computer?

Any recommendations for Apple programs to do the same?  Thanks.
"Certainly the Protocols are a forgery, and that is the one proof we have of their authenticity. The Jews have worked with forged documents for the past 24 hundred years, namely ever since they have had any documents whatsoever." - Ezra Pound

MikeWB

Quote from: Idaho Kid on August 02, 2016, 02:07:48 AM
Ah, Mike, thanks.  I've been meaning to ask how this "saving" or "mirroring" is done. 

It saves a copy of the info to your computer?

Any recommendations for Apple programs to do the same?  Thanks.

Yep, saves the whole site onto your computer that you can then browse locally.

On a Mac, use this: http://cocoawget.en.uptodown.com/mac

URL: http://www.wingtv.net/contact.html
Check "Recursive"
Select "Only this domain"
Level: 10 (or more)
and hit Start

Couldn't be simpler.  :) Enjoy.
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maz

New World Order Assassins - Michael Collins Piper interviews Victor Thorn - download mp3

rmstock

seems to work allright. First fire up webhttrack
in a terminal, next open your browser  :


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-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

MikeWB

maz, I miss MCP so damn much :( He was my favorite podcaster and writer in the alternative media.

rmstock, once wingtv goes away (and it will since it's register in Thorn's name and his bank account will go away), will your backup be visible at least to us here?
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rmstock

Quote from: MikeWB on August 02, 2016, 03:53:58 PM
maz, I miss MCP so damn much :( He was my favorite podcaster and writer in the alternative media.

rmstock, once wingtv goes away (and it will since it's register in Thorn's name and his bank account will go away), will your backup be visible at least to us here?
NP. i will create a zip file.
One really wonders how a guy like MCP got himself in such a nasty
position. Like MCP figured out how certain editors were ruining
brilliant articles and entire books whilest they were the CIA/Mossad
assets themselves. The same is of course valid for VCTHN. They seem
aware of it all, yet meet their maker way before their mileage was due.

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

MikeWB

AFP's obituary...




Prominent AFP Clinton Researcher Found Dead
August 01, 2016   chris   42 Comments


• AFP investigative reporter, prominent Clinton researcher, and prolific author Victor Thorn was found dead, the apparent victim of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

By the Staff at AFP —

Prolific author, AMERICAN FREE PRESS writer and seasoned Clinton researcher Victor Thorn was found at the top of a mountain near his home, the apparent victim of a gunshot wound. Family and some close friends contend Thorn took his own life on his birthday, August 1. Thorn would have been 54.

At the peak of his writing career, the author of some 20 books and 30 chapbooks, Thorn had reported for this newspaper for over a decade, writing thousands of articles on myriad subjects from conspiracy to health-related topics. Best known for his investigate research on the Clintons, Thorn wrote the Clinton trilogy—three definitive works that delved into the history of the power couple including their sordid scandals, Bill Clinton's sexual assaults of multiple women, and the drug running out of Mena, Arkansas while Clinton was governor of the state.
Emigrate While You Still Can! Learn More . . .

Besides writing for AFP, Thorn published the works of numerous writers in the alternative media such as Michael Collins Piper, Adam Gorightly, Mark Glenn, John Kaminski and Joan d'Arc, while also producing five CDs and DVDs, one of which is a five-disc collection that covers the John F. Kennedy assassination.

Thorn also served as the editor of five anthologies, and his political articles have appeared in various newspapers around the country.

In February 2001, Thorn founded Babel magazine, an online publication that ran until early 2004 and featured some of the first articles devoted to the 9-11 conspiracy.

One of his books, The New World Order Exposed, was translated and published in Japan in 2006, while 9-11 on Trial has been republished by Progressive Press, and was also released in France to coincide with the fifth anniversary of 9-11.

After co-hosting "The Victor Thorn Show" on the Reality Radio Network from 2002-2003, in February 2004, Thorn co-founded WING TV (World Independent News Group), a daily Internet television and radio talk show viewed in over 100 countries worldwide.





Thorn has also made hundreds of different radio appearances (including "Coast-to-Coast AM" and "The Lionel Show" on WOR 710 in New York City) and has done weekly one-hour news updates on Alex Merklinger's "Mysteries of the Mind," while also appearing weekly on Vyzygoth's "From the Grassy Knoll" and Frank Whalen's "Frankly Speaking Radio."

Thorn has been an avid political activist who spoke at the OKC Bombing 10th anniversary, as well as before the America First Party.

He has also protested in six different states, not to mention at Ground Zero on several occasions and in front of the White House in Washington, D.C.

Some supporters have voiced concerns that yet another prominent critic of the Clintons has turned up dead—this time just after Hillary Clinton secured the Democratic nomination.

Family has countered that there was no evidence of foul play at the scene and that Thorn most likely took his own life.

At this time, however, we are looking into all possibilities. The recent release of Crowning Clinton: Why Hillary Shouldn't Be in the White House and the Hillary (And Bill) trilogy, which has been selling off the shelves at AFP recently—exposing all the dirty secrets the Clintons have tried so hard to conceal over the years—certainly provides a motive for murder.

Thorn recently had some startling success with his research and writing. At the end of 2015, coauthors Roger Stone and Robert Morrow dedicated their book The Clintons' War on Women to Victor, and in the early part of 2016, a prominent publisher in Poland purchased the rights to translate and sell Thorn's Clinton trilogy.

If, in fact, Thorn was taken out by the Clintons, we will, sadly, have to add Thorn's name to the long list of Clinton victims to be found in Thorn's own masterpiece, Hillary (And Bill): The Murder Volume.

Rest in Peace.

Victor Thorn

Victor Thorn was a hard-hitting researcher, journalist and author of over 50 books.
http://americanfreepress.net/prominent-afp-clinton-researcher-found-dead/
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Idaho Kid

"Certainly the Protocols are a forgery, and that is the one proof we have of their authenticity. The Jews have worked with forged documents for the past 24 hundred years, namely ever since they have had any documents whatsoever." - Ezra Pound

Ognir

RIP Victor

He was a member here on TIU for many years.

Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

yankeedoodle

Quote from: maz on August 02, 2016, 12:40:27 PM
New World Order Assassins - Michael Collins Piper interviews Victor Thorn - download mp3

Just got a chance to listen to this.  You can't help wondering what Mike knew, because, at the very beginning, he says that he is going to heaven, and that Victor is going to heaven, also.

Very spooky listening to it now.

rmstock

Quote from: MikeWB on August 02, 2016, 03:53:58 PM
maz, I miss MCP so damn much :( He was my favorite podcaster and writer in the alternative media.

rmstock, once wingtv goes away (and it will since it's register in Thorn's name and his bank account will go away), will your backup be visible at least to us here?
Here's a first backup :

http://crashrecovery.org/daily/02.08.2016/WingTV-020816.zip
SIZE(WingTV-020816.zip)= 1072527499 (1023M)
MD5(WingTV-020816.zip)= 2983b5ba7cb02bae2b2bb11fa9d4c3f2
SHA1(WingTV-020816.zip)= 95c0f00366e532563af54eeca3fb0b450c69ed28

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

MikeWB

Quote from: rmstock on August 03, 2016, 10:38:42 AM
Quote from: MikeWB on August 02, 2016, 03:53:58 PM
maz, I miss MCP so damn much :( He was my favorite podcaster and writer in the alternative media.

rmstock, once wingtv goes away (and it will since it's register in Thorn's name and his bank account will go away), will your backup be visible at least to us here?
Here's a first backup :

http://crashrecovery.org/daily/02.08.2016/WingTV-020816.zip
SIZE(WingTV-020816.zip)= 1072527499 (1023M)
MD5(WingTV-020816.zip)= 2983b5ba7cb02bae2b2bb11fa9d4c3f2
SHA1(WingTV-020816.zip)= 95c0f00366e532563af54eeca3fb0b450c69ed28

Thank you! Please leave it on for a while :)
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rmstock

Quote from: MikeWB on August 03, 2016, 01:55:50 PM

Thank you! Please leave it on for a while :)
No problem. Wow something is going down very very fast with WingTV :

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Address:        192.168.178.10#53

** server can't find wingtv.net: NXDOMAIN

[acer20:stock]:(~)$


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Expiration only in November 2023 ? Its evident that the press needs
some rethinking for a suicide story here. One of the comments to the
video `Clinton Body Count +5 in Just 6 Weeks' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb_N02-vh8M
is very interesting though :

  "Russell Scott2 hours ago (edited)
   I've been researching the Victor Thorn story...its on my channel. I see
   you're posting this vid on there too.... the Victor Thorn death is not
   true....he just retired from public life and killed off the character
   of Victor Thorn. His FB page, website and phone number were down within
   hours of his supposed death. No obituary exists for the name Scott
   Mukufka...I called the police and they have no record of it.... no
   obituary but all his stuff is off the net... he retired by killing off
   the character "Victor Thorn".
   Read more
   Reply• 1

   View all 3 replies "


``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

MikeWB

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yankeedoodle

Quote from: MikeWB on August 05, 2016, 04:01:05 PM
WHOA! Fascinating. So he's not really dead!

Looked up a few days ago to see if there were comments by Texe Marrs, or by people who he had disoutes with, like Christopher Bollyn or Eric Hufschimd, and there was nothing, except a way-down-the-page American Free Press report, and an TheUglyTruth reprint of the AFP report.

Thought...hmm, WTF...at the time.  Just now looked, and there are  a few more postings, but not much, except a Snopes post near the top, and they are total bullshit, of course (no such thing as a kosher tax, they say).  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=victor+thorn&t=opera&ia=products


yankeedoodle

Here's a wild thought: could he have faked his death to start the rumor that the Clinton's were involved, so as to  try to influence the election? 

rmstock

He once was a cab driver in NY ...  What does this guy remind me of
the most ? Ahh this :



``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

rmstock

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   Expiration Date: 26-nov-2023

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

MikeWB

rmstock, dead men don't update DNS entries.

YD/rmstock, any idea which site first reported his death? And you're right, he might be using his fake death to smear Hillary.
1) No link? Select some text from the story, right click and search for it.
2) Link to TiU threads. Bring traffic here.

yankeedoodle

#29
A few days ago, only AFP and TheUglyTruth, which was just a reprint of the AFP report.  Thought, then, that maybe it's a hoax, because had to scroll down quite a bit to find these reports.

Just now called Texe Marrs and spoke to his assistant, Sandra, and asked her.  She confirmed the August 1st date, and all the other info we have.