Rand Paul suggests splitting health care bill in two

Started by rmstock, June 30, 2017, 11:46:55 AM

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rmstock


``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

yankeedoodle


Christopher Marlowe

Republicans are setting themselves up to save Obamacare by repealing it before it FAILS, and then putting in another version of the same thing. If the new Republican health care fails, it will be Trump's fault.
And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

rmstock

Trump on Healthcare: Repeal or Bust?
From: Fault Lines 0  2  3 days ago [Fri Jun 30 2017]
by Lee Stranahan and Garland Nixon
https://www.spreaker.com/user/radiosputnik/trump-on-healthcare-repeal-or-bust

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

yankeedoodle

As somebody who worked as a health claims analyst when he was 19 years old, I can tell you that nobody, really, except people who are sick, want the health care situation in the US resolved. 

To resolve the situation would require making millions of Americans unemployed, in a country where the national myth is that everybody should have a job, and two or three jobs, if you can handle it.

As just one example, it would require putting out of work attorneys who fight about liability for medical damages, as well as all the office staff who work for the attorneys, and the people who make all the tools that are used - computers, computer programs, paper, staples for paper, ribbons for computer printers, etc., etc.

Americans bitch about the medical system, alright.  But, what they bitch about more is people not working.  God damn it, this is America, and there's a job - three or four, really - for everybody, if they would just fucking do it.

So, you see, solving the health care problem requires an unemployment rate of, maybe, 10%, which is what they have in those God damned socialist European countries, with their God damned commie socialist medicine.

This is the reality.  Not to say it doesn't need fixed, but it never will be, because there's too much money in it, for everybody, except the unfortunate poor bastard who is sick.

rmstock

Quote from: yankeedoodle on July 03, 2017, 04:58:25 PM
As somebody who worked as a health claims analyst when he was 19 years old, I can tell you that nobody, really, except people who are sick, want the health care situation in the US resolved. 

To resolve the situation would require making millions of Americans unemployed, in a country where the national myth is that everybody should have a job, and two or three jobs, if you can handle it.

As just one example, it would require putting out of work attorneys who fight about liability for medical damages, as well as all the office staff who work for the attorneys, and the people who make all the tools that are used - computers, computer programs, paper, staples for paper, ribbons for computer printers, etc., etc.

Americans bitch about the medical system, alright.  But, what they bitch about more is people not working.  God damn it, this is America, and there's a job - three or four, really - for everybody, if they would just fucking do it.

So, you see, solving the health care problem requires an unemployment rate of, maybe, 10%, which is what they have in those God damned socialist European countries, with their God damned commie socialist medicine.

This is the reality.  Not to say it doesn't need fixed, but it never will be, because there's too much money in it, for everybody, except the unfortunate poor bastard who is sick.
Are you talking about the legal staff of Shylock being put out of
business ? I'd say that would be the greatest victory ever. Here's my
suggestion. Disconnect basic healthcare from any existing tax code
laws. Demand a fixed monthly fee for health care for every qualified
person, say $100,= per month. This is a base income for the healthcare
and health-service industry of $384 billion per annum with 320 million
Americans. Payment of this monthly fee would be mandatory for every
American and should be enforced by law in the same manner as Parking
Violations. Healthy young people would tend to fluke payments, but
should realize that one day they themselves could need healthcare.
There's no difference between humans rich or poor, so the monthly fee
of $100,= should not differ. When being on the poverty line, the $100,=
should be added to the welfare grant for basic living.

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

yankeedoodle

#6
Quote from: rmstock on July 03, 2017, 05:24:47 PM

Are you talking about the legal staff of Shylock being put out of
business ? I'd say that would be the greatest victory ever. Here's my
suggestion. Disconnect basic healthcare from any existing tax code
laws. Demand a fixed monthly fee for health care for every qualified
person, say $100,= per month. This is a base income for the healthcare
and health-service industry of $384 billion per annum with 320 million
Americans. Payment of this monthly fee would be mandatory for every
American and should be enforced by law in the same manner as Parking
Violations. Healthy young people would tend to fluke payments, but
should realize that one day they themselves could need healthcare.
There's no difference between humans rich or poor, so the monthly fee
of $100,= should not differ. When being on the poverty line, the $100,=
should be added to the welfare grant for basic living.

That, of course, makes perfect sense, which is why it will NEVER happen, not in the US of A.

First of all, that's European, which means the Republicans won't want it, cause Europeans are commies.

Second of all, forcing everybody to pay a fixed monthly fee is - guess what? - analogous to being a TAX, so the Tea Party-ers won't have it.

Third, you said "mandatory," and, Americans don't like anything "mandatory," as in "I don't like the government telling me I have to do anything."

And, fourth of all, it implies sharing the cost burden across the population, and Americans don't like paying for other Americans, especially those poor Americans, who don't have jobs, so they can pay for their own God-damned health insurance, from a health insurance company that rich Americans have stock in. 

Tell you what, Robert, you people in Europe just don't know how it is here.    Everybody is trying to get everything cheaper for themselves, and fuck everybody else, because, that's the American way. 

One example, though, would be to look at what has happened to the NHS in Britain, in the years since Maggie Thatcher, and the Tories, began to introduce American-style "efficiencies."




 


rmstock

The American people should stand United in this, as in United States of
America.  Look how the Military takes care in retrieving their injured
from the battle fields. I doubt Americans see this as a taxation, as
the same people have no problems paying for car insurance. I doubt
Americans see this as mandatory, as the same people puke at other
people who drive their cars without insurance. Outperforming or
Out-competing your natural competition by having them ailing and/or
dying of some sickness is un-American.

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

yankeedoodle

#8
Quote from: rmstock on July 03, 2017, 06:42:53 PM
The American people should stand United in this, as in United States of
America.  Look how the Military takes care in retrieving their injured
from the battle fields. I doubt Americans see this as a taxation, as
the same people have no problems paying for car insurance. I doubt
Americans see this as mandatory, as the same people puke at other
people who drive their cars without insurance. Outperforming or
Out-competing your natural competition by having them ailing and/or
dying of some sickness is un-American.


:lmao:  You have a very romanticized view of America.

Many/most Americans hate  paying for car insurance, because 1) they don't have the money or 2) don't want to spend the money or 3) resent being forced by the government to buy car insurance.

Many Americans, in fact, DO NOT pay car insurance, which, decades ago, resulted in some states passing "no fault" laws to protect drivers from what are called "uninsured motorists."

If you watch American commercial television, you will realize that countless millions of dollars are spent advertising insurance companies that offer the cheapest-cost car insurance.

Because everybody wants the cheapest insurance, and insurance companies want to make a lot of money - after paying huge advertising budgets - the insurance companies try very hard to pay NOTHING, particularly damages related to health complaints.

For example:  somebody hits your car from behind, and you have back or neck pains, what happens?  The insurance company for the driver who hit you - if he even has insurance - will immediately tell you that there's nothing wrong with you, and they aren't going to pay for any of your God-damned imaginary back or neck pain.

This, of course, brings in the shyster lawyers, who argue about how little you are paid for your pain.

And, of course, it also brings out the fraudsters, who pretend to have pain, so they can hire a shyster lawyer who will get money for them.

This is just a small window into reality in the US of A.  Of course, if, when you are in a crash, and you have back or neck pain, and you live in a country that has sane health protection - not the USA - you would simply go to the doctor and/or hospital, and they would take care of you, and all you need worry about is getting better.

That will never happen in America, particularly as long as Americans are so fucking stupid that they think a lying billionaire (?) like shabbos goy Donnie-boy gives a damn about them.   

Hey, a lot of - most of? - those shyster lawyers are jews, and, who does shabbos goy Donnie-boy just love?  That's right: jews.  After all, all his grandchildren are jews.   <:^0 (*)> :lmao:







yankeedoodle

#9
Take a look, Robert, at what you get when you put "auto accident lawyers" in the computer. 
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=auto+accident+lawyers&t=h_&ia=web

You don't want all these people to be unemployed, do you?
:lmao:

And, check out these car insurance ads.  https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=car+insurance+commercials

You don't want these people to be unemployed, either, do you?   :lmao:


rmstock

When there's a car accident in the Netherlands, in 9 out of 10 cases,
there is never a legal proceeding in some court of law, only the
proceedings of the insurance companies of both parties involved in the
accident. When there are people injured the Police and Ambulance show
up, and make their reports.  What can happen is that in the aftermath,
a DUI driver can be sued for damages, because the DUI drivers insurance
company decided not to pay, and hence a separate law case is needed. 
The DUI driver then looses his house, job, car, family etc.  The number
of law cases compared to accidents is very very low in the Netherlands,
because the Dutch people make sure they are covered for damages through
insurance, and keep to their contracts demands, like DUI.

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

rmstock

shabbos goy Donnie-boy  just became President today :

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/881983493533822976



A lot of American companies are on their way back up to real recovery,
after the numbers of the first six months came in today. The number of
Americans who claim Donnie is shabbos goy or just a boy is dwindling.

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

yankeedoodle

#12
Quote from: rmstock on July 03, 2017, 08:59:09 PM
shabbos goy Donnie-boy  just became President today :

A lot of American companies are on their way back up to real recovery,
after the numbers of the first six months came in today. The number of
Americans who claim Donnie is shabbos goy or just a boy is dwindling.

This, of course, is the ultimate FAKE NEWS.  Shit-for-brains shabbos goy Donnie-boy is responsible for nothing except degrading the United States for the benefit of Israhell.

The Dow Jones Index has nothing to do with making America great, it only means that some people - who dat? - are getting richer.

Often, a company's stock price rises when it has a dramatic cost savings, such as firing a large number of employees, which increases profits.  Or, when they otherwise have reduced costs, such as being able to lower the wages and benefits of employees, or being able to pollute the environment, or being gifted with government subsidies.

And, of course, if a big war is anticipated, that will drive stock prices higher. 

And, if they know they will no longer have to pay tax, this gives them money to invest in the stock market, which, of course, drives up the price of stock, which means that the rise in the price of stock does not, necessarily, have anything to do with the performance of the company.

The stock exchange is the plaything of the jews, and, with their puppet, shabbos goy Donnie-boy, they are extremely confident that a lot of money can be made in the stock exchange in the future, so, they are buying stock in anticipation of this boom in profits, hence, stock prices are going up.  Stock prices reflect the actual, or anticipated, opportunity to make money, and increase profits.

The stock market is of absolutely no benefit to the stupid red-hat-wearing Trump-tards who think Trump cares about them.  The fucker has gone bankrupt four times - walking away with money while his creditors got little or nothing - and that's what the US has to look forward to.  TWEET.  TWEET.





rmstock

QuoteThis, of course, is the ultimate FAKE NEWS.
Well fair is fair, maybe its time to send in the O'Keefe man to
CNN Money, to check if the FAKE virus has been infecting there as well.

What is interesting to see is that in the last year before the Millenium
Bernie Madoff, and a lot of his high profile clients and investors,
aka the Madoff crowd were regularly checking in and gathering
at Mar-a-Lago, the resort from Donald Trump. :



So Trump was a first hand witness but never was lured into the Madoff scheme.

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778