Russia is GIFTING Lebanon Mig-29 planes!

[MikeWB]

Russia to Give Lebanon MiG-29 Jets


Russia to Give Lebanon MiG-29 War Jets
BBC News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7788351.stm

Page last updated at 16:26 GMT, Wednesday, 17 December 2008

Russia 'to give' Lebanon war jets

Moscow is to give 10 MiG-29 fighter jets to Lebanon free of charge, says Russia's state news agency Interfax.

The head of the Russia's defence co-operation body, Mikhail Dmitriyev, said the consignment was "a form of military and technical assistance".

"We view the Lebanese army as the main guarantor of this nation's stability, therefore the armed forces of this country must be strengthened," he said.

Delivery of the jets to Lebanon will also be paid for by the Russians.

Mr Dmitriyev said the jets would be fully repaired and upgraded before being delivered.

He added that the two countries were also discussing a possible sale of Russian armour to Beirut, reported Reuters. He said this was possible because of Lebanon's recent stability.

Lebanon's military capability is greatly outweighed by Arab neighbour Syria, with which is has a history of sometimes strained relations, and the Israel which lies to the south.

Lebanon and Israel have never signed a peace treaty and Israeli fighter jets continually violate Lebanese airspace in what the Israeli military describes as reconnaissance missions, but which are condemned by the United Nations.

And Jewish controlled Russia is doing this why exactly? To make Israel's job even harder??

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Maybe sombebody wants to boost the price of Oil?

[high_treason]

Russia giving them old Migs will not stop an Israeli fighter jet, look at Gulf war 1 Saddam had them and they were all burnt to a crisp. Even the tanks they will probably give them the old T72 which has a track record of being weak and not up to the standards of its rivals such as the Merkava (israel) or Abrahams (US) they don't even have night vision and it was turkey shoot in the first Gulf war and Yuguslavia. Probably Russia had a surplus of obselete equipment and wanted to give the impression of the protector of weaker nations and develope itself in to the world police.

I don't really trust any governement that gives something for free, countries have interests and nothing they give is for free not for their own citizens or to other foreign nations. The only exception to this rule is israel because its the defacto ruler in the US. Other than that look at any USAID program to see how the 'gift' concept works.

[satya]

Russia is not on the up n' up:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/17/world ... &ref=world
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1013997.html

[high_treason]

Thanks Satya for the links, this is exactly why we shouldn't trust Putin or any other government. So no, Russians are not looking out for Lebanese interests, plus the Lebanese military is a joke, seriously thats why Hezb Allah was fighting while the military was withdrawing not even a single aircraft or boat patrol to speak of. So what the Russians are up to I don't know but its certainly not what they are showing.

[GordZilla]

Russia to Give Lebanon MiG-29 Jets


Russia to Give Lebanon MiG-29 War Jets
BBC News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7788351.stm

Page last updated at 16:26 GMT, Wednesday, 17 December 2008

Russia 'to give' Lebanon war jets

Moscow is to give 10 MiG-29 fighter jets to Lebanon free of charge, says Russia's state news agency Interfax.

The head of the Russia's defence co-operation body, Mikhail Dmitriyev, said the consignment was "a form of military and technical assistance".

"We view the Lebanese army as the main guarantor of this nation's stability, therefore the armed forces of this country must be strengthened," he said.

Delivery of the jets to Lebanon will also be paid for by the Russians.

Mr Dmitriyev said the jets would be fully repaired and upgraded before being delivered.

He added that the two countries were also discussing a possible sale of Russian armour to Beirut, reported Reuters. He said this was possible because of Lebanon's recent stability.

Lebanon's military capability is greatly outweighed by Arab neighbour Syria, with which is has a history of sometimes strained relations, and the Israel which lies to the south.

Lebanon and Israel have never signed a peace treaty and Israeli fighter jets continually violate Lebanese airspace in what the Israeli military describes as reconnaissance missions, but which are condemned by the United Nations.

And Jewish controlled Russia is doing this why exactly? To make Israel's job even harder??

Jewish Russia also supplied the Egyptians and many other Arab states, all thru the years.
You don't quite get it yet do you?
They care not , even for their own, it only helps the Jew to have a very viable and potent enemy, cause they will still have the best of weapons, and the best of retreats for when the shit really does hit the fan.

Again, they don't care for the Israelis citizen anymore than they care for us. They simply don't care.

Is Russia a member of the G-8?
How about the IMF, aren't they also under their umbrella?
Did all the Jews in Power suddenly drop everything and leave Russia after the Cold War?
Seriously, think about it.

[MikeWB]

Jewish Russia also supplied the Egyptians and many other Arab states, all thru the years.
You don't quite get it yet do you?
They care not , even for their own, it only helps the Jew to have a very viable and potent enemy, cause they will still have the best of weapons, and the best of retreats for when the shit really does hit the fan.

Again, they don't care for the Israelis citizen anymore than they care for us. They simply don't care.

Is Russia a member of the G-8?
How about the IMF, aren't they also under their umbrella?
Did all the Jews in Power suddenly drop everything and leave Russia after the Cold War?
Seriously, think about it.

Egypt... sure. A buck is a buck.
Get what? I  get the subtleties of international politics... something that most don't want to see.
Israel doesn't have the best weapons, US does. And US has refused many times to sell them all kinds of weapons.
Yes, Russia is a member of G8 but why is then press writing about G7 now and ignores G8? Oh, could it be because of Georgia war?

I have thought about it and all this "Russia is controlled by the Jews" doesn't make any sense. On the surface, some folks point at Putin meeting with Chabad etc and yet they fail to grasp the geopolitics. Why do you think Israel was all over Georgia and helping them... and now they've put their tail between their legs and have GTFO out of there? Why has Olmert traveled to Russia after Georgia fiasco and have asked for forgiveness? Why do you think Russia is helping ALL of the Israel's enemies? Let me tell you why Olmert went to Russia... he went to Russia because he got scared shitless of how Russia might retaliate. Israel is afraid of Russia's influence on Caucasus region and they're afraid that Russia might project its power even further into it. So they were aiding Georgia with hopes it would become another Chechnya for Russia and would slow them down. When that failed, Olmert ran to Moscow to beg Putin not to do anything that would harm Israel. And now you might ask, what exactly is Olmert so afraid of? Is it Lebanon? Is it Hesbollah? Yes, to a certain degree but that's not what keeps Israeli strategists awake at night. Do you know which country guarantees Israel's safety to a very large degree? EGYPT! Egypt's an American puppet state controlled by a dictator Mubarak. Mubarak rules with iron fist and a large percentage of Egypt hates him. What do you think would happen if Russia started destabilizing Egypt and started funding Muslim Brotherhood and other parties in opposition? How quickly do you think Egyptian gov would fall? What would Israel do then? They'd be fucked and would then have to worry about its southern borders and about Egypt sending REAL weapons to Palestinians. Egypt has completely isolated Gaza and are acting towards Palestinians worse than Jews.

You'll have to do better than repeating some stupid rumors how Putin's a jew or he's met with Chabad. EVERY leader in the World meets with ALL religious leaders. Just because there's a pic of them doesn't mean Putin's their man. Everything he's done while in the office goes against that fact.

Anyway, this forum sometimes really breeds paranoia and people lose reality and just repeat total nonsense without having the BIG PICTURE in view. Big picture is EVERYTHING! Just seeing small tactics in play can be confusing and can lead to silly inferences.

[joeblow]

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Tensions help create a floor on Oil and a possibly set up an "up" squeeze at these low levels.  This makes me really wonder how much of the world Oil profits are controlled by Pro-Zionist organizations globally?  
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World Bank: Russia may need help if oil falls more

Dec 19 08:57 AM US/Eastern
By CATRINA STEWART
Associated Press Writer 118 Comments


MOSCOW (AP) - Russia would come under crippling financial pressure and may need to raise money externally if oil languishes at an average of $30 a barrel over the next two years, the World Bank predicted Friday.
The bleak scenario would mark a rapid unraveling of Russia's oil-fueled economic gains over the past eight years, during which time the government has paid down most of its foreign debt and built up a vast stockpile of international reserves.

"If oil prices in 2009 and 2010 average $30 a barrel, that would be a nightmare scenario for a global economy," Zeljko Bogetic, the World Bank's chief economist in Russia told investors on Friday. "The pressures on the current account and public finances in Russia would quickly rise to a point where the financing constraint would become so sharp that it's possible even to envisage Russia's return from a creditor to international organisations to (that of) a borrower."

At $50 a barrel, Russia could drain much of its reserve funds and run budgetary deficits, but would not face a "meltdown" scenario, said Bogetic.

Oil prices took a sharp turn downward this week, with the February light sweet crude contract trading just over $42 a barrel—more than $100 lower than its July peak—despite a large output cut pledged this week by oil producers' cartel OPEC.

Some major oil-importing countries have criticized OPEC's move to push up prices during a global slowdown.

The World Bank currently forecasts an average oil price of $75 a barrel over the next two years, said Bogetic.

Among emerging markets, Russia has been one of the hardest hit by the global financial crisis and plunging oil prices, the mainstay of the Russian economy. These factors have put the national currency under intense strain and triggered massive stock market losses and capital outflows from the country.

Russia, which grew at over 8 percent last year, is facing a severe slowdown in growth, and possibly even recession next year, analysts say. Torrid figures released earlier this week showed that industrial output had plunged 10.8 percent in November from the previous month, signaling a dramatic slowdown in the final quarter.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

[MikeWB]

Tensions help create a floor on Oil and a possibly set up an "up" squeeze at these low levels.  This makes me really wonder how much of the world Oil profits are controlled by Pro-Zionist organizations globally?  

That's a tertiary effect at best. And guess what, MUSLIM countries will benefit more than Zionists. Israel doesn't have any oil.

[high_treason]

Actually we don't benefit at all from the oil, the big oil companies have contracts that makes them pay almost close to nothing for the oil. Gulf nations have very little control over their oil here is a list of Muslim countries in the OPEC and which companies own their fields.

http://www.virginia.edu/igpr/APAG/apagoilcompany.html

Kuwait
Major Foreign Oil Company Involvement:
British Petroleum Co. Plc
Chevron
Getty Oil Co.
Gulf Oil
Japan's Arabian Oil Co. (AOC)
Mobil Corp.
Royal Dutch/Shell,
Shell International Petroleum Co. Ltd.
Texaco
Total

Oman
Major Foreign Oil Company Involvement:
There are two American concessionaires: Occidental/Gulf and Amoco. Ashland Oil manages Oman's sole refinery, and U.S. firms lift Oman's crude.

Bahrain
Major Foreign Oil Company Involvement:
Harken Oil, of Grand Prairie, Texas, who is backed in part by Bass Enterprise Production Company of Fort Worth, Texas Harvard University, a major shareholder in Harken through an affiliate, and George W. Bush

Iran
Major Foreign Oil Company Involvement:
Gazprom
Petronas
Shell
Total
Recent Developments:
(Concluded at least negotiations with):
Elf Aquitaine
Japex, the state-owned Japanese Exploration and Production Co.,
PetroCanada
Ultramar (Canada)
The U.S. Treasury has allowed two American companies (Chevron, Coastal) to import Iranian crude

Saudi Arabia
Major Foreign Oil Company Involvement:
Mobil
Shell

UAE
Major Foreign Oil Company Involvement:
BP
Caltex Petroleum Corp.,
Miutsui & Co. Ltd.
Parrex
Pennzoil
Shell Gas BV
Total

Qatar:
Major Foreign Oil Company Involvement:
ARCO Qatar Inc., (as operator for a consortium of Germany's Wintershall A.G. and Preussag A.G., British Gas Co., and Gulfstream Resources Canada Ltd. of Calgary)
Chevron Over-seas Petroleum (Qatar) Ltd. and its partner Magyar Olaj Gazi (MOL), the Hungarian Oil & Gas Co. Ltd.
Elf Petroleum Qatar.
Enron
Maersk Oil Qatar Co.
Marubeni
Methanex Corp. (Vancouver)
Mitsui
Mobil Oil Qatar
Mobil, MOL
Occidental Petroleum of Qatar Ltd..
Pennzoil Qatar Oil Co.
Phillips Petroleum Co.
Royal Dutch Shell
Wintershall

Iraq
Recent Developments:
U.S. previously operating in Iraq include Haliburton, Howe-Baker Engineering Inc., Mobil Oil, and Pullman-Kellogg.
Iraq's State Oil Marketing Organization (SOMO), -- pending U.N. approval --is in discussions with: U.S. companies Coastal Corp., Phoenix, Chevron Corp. and Mobil Corp.
Iraq has current contracts with Coastal, Russian Sidanco and France's Total S.A.
The Oil Daily reports that Shell, BP, Chevron, and Coastal are among the companies interested in buying Iraqi crude

Citizens of those countries don't get much from the oil, the people who really benefit are the ones in the government and you only need to go to Saudi Arabia to see 22 million poor as dirt while a few thousands rich beyond belief.

[Roy Hobs]

I believe Chris Bjerkness' theory here best applies.  Israel needs enemies.  If you ask any mainstream evangelical christian who Magog is, or who is the army "from the North", they will all tell you that Russia is the enemy.  I believe the Jewish elite is working off this "war of Armeggedon" scenerio to further their agenda.  To continue to fool evangelicals, they need to continue this deception.  They need Russia to look like the enemy.  Just as they used Hitler.  Since most christians were on the side of Israel 2 years ago (Israel and Lebanon conflict), having Russia arm the Lebaneese fits right into this paradym.  The media, and the churches, also tie Russia to Iran.  Russia is Israel's enemy....according to evangelicals.  

I may not have explained this well enough, so listen to Bjerkness and read his blog for a better explanation.  I think his theory, makes the most sense.

[GordZilla]

Jewish Russia also supplied the Egyptians and many other Arab states, all thru the years.
You don't quite get it yet do you?
They care not , even for their own, it only helps the Jew to have a very viable and potent enemy, cause they will still have the best of weapons, and the best of retreats for when the shit really does hit the fan.

Again, they don't care for the Israelis citizen anymore than they care for us. They simply don't care.

Is Russia a member of the G-8?
How about the IMF, aren't they also under their umbrella?
Did all the Jews in Power suddenly drop everything and leave Russia after the Cold War?
Seriously, think about it.

Egypt... sure. A buck is a buck.
Get what? I  get the subtleties of international politics... something that most don't want to see.
Israel doesn't have the best weapons, US does. And US has refused many times to sell them all kinds of weapons.
The "big picture" is apparently bigger than you think.

Yes, Russia is a member of G8 but why is then press writing about G7 now and ignores G8? Oh, could it be because of Georgia war?

I have thought about it and all this "Russia is controlled by the Jews" doesn't make any sense. On the surface, some folks point at Putin meeting with Chabad etc and yet they fail to grasp the geopolitics. Why do you think Israel was all over Georgia and helping them... and now they've put their tail between their legs and have GTFO out of there? Why has Olmert traveled to Russia after Georgia fiasco and have asked for forgiveness? Why do you think Russia is helping ALL of the Israel's enemies? Let me tell you why Olmert went to Russia... he went to Russia because he got scared shitless of how Russia might retaliate. Israel is afraid of Russia's influence on Caucasus region and they're afraid that Russia might project its power even further into it. So they were aiding Georgia with hopes it would become another Chechnya for Russia and would slow them down. When that failed, Olmert ran to Moscow to beg Putin not to do anything that would harm Israel. And now you might ask, what exactly is Olmert so afraid of? Is it Lebanon? Is it Hesbollah? Yes, to a certain degree but that's not what keeps Israeli strategists awake at night. Do you know which country guarantees Israel's safety to a very large degree? EGYPT! Egypt's an American puppet state controlled by a dictator Mubarak. Mubarak rules with iron fist and a large percentage of Egypt hates him. What do you think would happen if Russia started destabilizing Egypt and started funding Muslim Brotherhood and other parties in opposition? How quickly do you think Egyptian gov would fall? What would Israel do then? They'd be fucked and would then have to worry about its southern borders and about Egypt sending REAL weapons to Palestinians. Egypt has completely isolated Gaza and are acting towards Palestinians worse than Jews.

You'll have to do better than repeating some stupid rumors how Putin's a jew or he's met with Chabad. EVERY leader in the World meets with ALL religious leaders. Just because there's a pic of them doesn't mean Putin's their man. Everything he's done while in the office goes against that fact.

Anyway, this forum sometimes really breeds paranoia and people lose reality and just repeat total nonsense without having the BIG PICTURE in view. Big picture is EVERYTHING! Just seeing small tactics in play can be confusing and can lead to silly inferences.

So they did just drop all power, and control and left after the wall went down?
I don't work on rumor, been awake for a long long time.
What you see on the outside, is nowhere near the truth of what's happening within.
Apprently the 'big picture' is much bigger than you think.

[MikeWB]

Yawn... empty claptrap, GordZilla!

[GordZilla]

Yawn... empty claptrap, GordZilla!

??

Does that mean you have no answer?

Where did they go?

[MikeWB]

Yawn... empty claptrap, GordZilla!

??

Does that mean you have no answer?

Where did they go?

WHO? Russians? The whole Soviet Union collapsed. I have no idea what the heck you're talking about.  How about you elaborate your arguments? Even better, link me to some articles discussing your "jews run russia" view and how Russia supporting Iran, Syria, Hesbollah, Venezuela, Cuba helps Israel and US. Let's see the arguments!!!

[sirbadman]

I think I'd like Ognir to maybe interview someone on Russia and explain it all to me, because apart from the questions around Hitler (my general view is he was a stooge, but there is a case he was a stooge who later rebelled against his masters, possibly due to his ego), Russia post USSR has been one of the more confusing topics when looking at the jewminati/jew world order.

I generally feel Russia is run by jewish hands, as it has been since 1918, but this Mig donation, the JWO-led Georgia setup against Russia, Russia's support of Iran, it's a bit hard to figure out what is going on.

I dont want to sound like that crazy Hufschmid, but are there divisions in jewish control.. any ideas anyone..?

[GordZilla]

When I say "they" I mean Jews, or you could have just went back to my original question.
Sources?, I searched for 10 seconds and found this, I know it's not BBC but hopefully it will suffice;
http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/2008/1 ... media.html

I don't often quote sources, I opt instead to use common sense.
They didn't give up power and leave after the great charade of the Wall coming down, when communism supposedly collapsed. There were no mass migrations of powerful Russia Jews out of Russia. They simply didn't release power and leave with their tales between their legs. Russia wasn't magically restored to the gentile-lead government (rather monarchy) it had before the Bolsheviks murdered the monarchy and replaced them. They retained control and still do today. They just don't often come out and admit that in BBC articles.  "They" are Jews.

[LatinAmericanview]

Yawn... empty claptrap, GordZilla!

??

Does that mean you have no answer?

Where did they go?

You make some fine and great points Zilla. I would like to add another dimension of reasoning often forgotten by those that do not have military experience. Any government with a large standing man army is always faced with serious difficulties. The first is the cost on society for having such a large army. The second is that Professional soldiers are dangerous to your governmental power if they are not directed at some external power. In his respect, Russia gets to promote Jewish Military interests while seemly helping the beleaguered Arab States. The Israeli military gets to some thing to plan against and worry about. Additionally, Israel gets a really bogey man with obsolete weapons. It is a win all the way around. oh I almost forgot, Russia gets solves its physical storage problem.

[Ralph Furely]

if russia wasnt in the same boat as the rest of us, why would they not expose some easily exposable shit?  as Bjerknes stated in that article posted, why wouldn't they, for instance, bring up that big misconception
about israel being wiped off the map.  or why wouldnt they totally expose what actually went on in south ossetia?  or every other lie and deceitful trick they are currently up to.
it just seems like there is so much shit russia could be saying through their media (which isnt controlled by jews???) to blow israels lies out of the water.. that it becomes very confusing and doesnt make much sense if we are to believe they are not under jewish influence or control.  

if russia isnt controlled, then they are in the same boat we are in, and they should be talking about what these ppl are up to, every chance they get.  but as far as i know, nothing is said.  they just go along with the game, like every other nation thats under their control,  too afraid to speak up.

[LatinAmericanview]

Ralph Furely what you are doing is called projection. Russia has a different historical context then does say the United States.  Just because a government refuses to expose any given fabricated fact does not imply anything but the fact that they have not exposed the lie. Have you ever considered that Russia may have a vested interest in maintaining the lie? Let us continue with this line of reasoning. How many heads of states have actually come out and exposed the 911? Too my knowledge only three heads or former heads of States have publicly expressed this sentiment. This would imply the whole world is on lock down. I tend to think of the current Geo-political situation as a poker game with features of a chess game.

[LatinAmericanview]

I stand corrected. Clearly , Russia is anti-Zionist why else would they provide material support to the Palestinians? Funny they could save a lot of cash just by exposing the truth.


Russia offers military support to Palestine

Russia bids for control over the Middle East

Russian FM Lavrov announced the upcoming financial support for Palestinians during Abbas' visit to Moscow. As his presidential term expires on January 9, this seems Abbas' last official visit - significantly, to Chechnya.

Russian support to Palestinians will come largely in military sphere. In Lavrov's diplomatic speak, Russia supports Abbas' "security measures." The only Fatah's security measures we see in Israel are related to terrorist attacks: scores of Fatah policemen are vacationing in Israeli jails for terror activity. Not a single Palestinian terrorist was intercepted by Fatah policemen. The few terrorists comfortably jailed in Palestine were arrested by IDF and released to Fatah.

Russian pledge to Palestine has nothing to do with humanitarian concerns. Russians never delivered food or other humanitarian supplies to Palestinian refugee camps, but look for "security cooperation" with Palestinians. In plain English, Russians seek a military foothold at Israeli borders. To that end, they pledged ten MIG-29 jets to Lebanon's Hezbollah government free, and build a mammoth navy base in Syrian port of Tartus. The navy base will host S-300 and later S-400 anti-aircraft defense which would protect most of Syria against Israeli reprisals. Under the Russian ABM umbrella, Syria can develop its nuclear weapons without fearing Israeli preemption.

Russia's Middle East policy also includes TOR-1M and S-300 deliveries to Iran and joint nuclear program with

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/9676

[MikeWB]

LAV, great post!

[Ralph Furely]

doesnt this kind of go along with what we are saying? they too are playing the game.  just as the rest of the controlled countries are doing.  
to me this goes along with the rest of them.  no matter what they say, they all seem to be on this same agenda where everything must get much worse before it gets better.  they all seem to want ww3.
isnt this all the same shit?  we got this guy over here, trying to start a war between this country and that country.  then we got this guy over here giving supplies to this country, and that country....
they all seem to be doing the same thing.  trying to start wars.  whether it be between this or that, it all looks the same to me.  the whole lot of them, regardless of who they say they like and
who they say they back, it looks like everyone now is trying to start wars.  

russia is hooking lebanon up with some jets, they are also hooking palestinians up with some arms or whatever it is...  Ahmadinejad doesnt like the west, but he seems to be playing right into their hands with all this
war bullshit.  its like he has been egging israel and america on.  i know he doesnt really have a say in regards to that whole country... but in that respect he is just another talking head. much like the ones in america, israel, russia, and so on.
it looks to me like just about everyone is playing the same game.


im just trying to figure this shit out like everyone else, but this is how it appears to me.


edit to say: i guess my point is, it seems a bit naive to think that russia, who used to be completely under their control just a few decades ago, is no longer under that same control.
what happened in these past 80 or so yrs that got these ppl out of control, out of the country, and got the power back into the hands of anyone but these jewish ppl who took over back then?
this is what i dont see.  what i do see is them playing the same game as just about everyone else.


edit again:  something else i just thought of.  russia giving the palestinians arms.  couldnt this actually play right into israels hands?  palestine is given some arms from big bad evil russia.  now israel can crush the west bank and play up this angle saying they were about to strike at us with all these advanced powerful armaments given to them by russia, so the IDF had to crush them.  come at them with this disproportionate amount of firepower.... but is it really disproportionate?  the media can pull all kindsa shit here.  the IDF are just protecting themselves, their country.  striking at them before they unleash all this new firepower they may or may not have.  know what im saying?
in reality, why would russia hook palestine up with this, all the sudden.  where were they last year?  5 yrs ago?  10 yrs ago?  why now?  and really, what good is this going to do for the palestinians anyway.  
regardless of what russia gives to them, they are still out powered.  so what will this do.  ramp up the fight between the israelis and the palestinians.  but again as i just said, now israel, if there is some kind of world wide outrage, which i highly doubt anyway but in the event, israel can now say well shit look what russia has been giving to them.  they were getting ready to attack iasraeli civilians yadda yadda yadda..
not like anyone ever gives a shit anyway but if they were to, here is a great excuse as to why they had to hit the west bank so hard and with so much power.  

does this make sense?

[LatinAmericanview]

Dear RF,

There are several games being played here. Lets begin with the propaganda paradigm. All news articles are propaganda. The reason is that they cover an event designated to be important by the ruling powers. Allow me to expand on this briefly, every event that anything is published in print or discussed by the media has to go through a process of becoming News Worthy. In other words, some editorial board decides what is news worthy. This flitering and funneling process is central to Perception Management process. In America like many places this perception Management process is handled by various intelligence apparatuses. Moreover, specialized administrators like "Media Jews" also collaborate with various intelligence services to provide the proper perception. Along with these aforementioned groups secret societies also contribute to this funneling and filtering process. Certain things are completely censored because of National Security issues. Additionally, all propaganda has a target audience. That is to say that every news article is catered to a specific target demographic group. Demographic groups can be generalized into groups like young white males or late reproductive cycle females. Try to think of this as a radio station programing with the aim of getting the most out of your advertising time segments. For example, RBN and their constant pushing of gold and survival supplies. Look this stuff is complicated and quite frankly, it would take to much of time to write essay which your questions deserve. I would be available to explain this via skpye. I make this offer to anyone interested in understanding how this works.

[MikeWB]

LAV, how about a podcast so that everyone can get to hear your POV?

[LatinAmericanview]

Let me give it some thought. Thank you for the vote of confidence.

[Canard]

Doeeet pooooosie

[Free Truth]

I kind of have to agree with RF.

Truth is the whole world is "controlled," owned, period

This is all a soap opera for the watchers...

The truth is: It is us, the masses VS. the Owners and their representatives  
Billions VS. Thousands

Call it an easy cop-out if you want, but that is the bottom line.

Don't over analyze the soap opera.

[LatinAmericanview]

So why quote controlled and owned media outlets?