THEIR TRYING TO USE CONTRACT LAW.....

Started by Anonymous, January 06, 2009, 08:12:11 PM

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Anonymous

On the subject of courts and the prospect that "He who does not deny....admits"

WHETHER YOU ARE IN COURT DEFENDING A TRAFFIC TICKET, MURDER CHARGES, FORECLOSURE ON YOUR HOME OR YOU HAPPEN TO BE GAZA DEFENDING YOUR SELF FROM THE ACTIONS OF ISRAHELL......
 
"They are trying to use contract law...."

Now let's get back to this court scenario...."if the defendant does not rebut the unproved assumptions and presumptions."
 
Then, according to the laws of procedure in an equity court their failure to rebut them....must mean what???
 
THEY MUST BE TRUE!!...BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T REBUT THEM!!
 
Which under the terms of contract law, you, have accepted the proposition.
 
You didn't rebut them right?....which is acceptance...
 
So, when you have offer and acceptance...isn't that a contract??
 
Doesn't that supersede any provisions required by formal law and procedure?
 
YES!!.....Because the parties are in agreement!!
 
And they can agree to waive remedies and provisions of law anytime they want.
 
Now I said to these people that I knew that are confused as to why in the world the judge found the defendant guilty when there was no evidence for the plaintiff in the case.
 
I said he found the defendant guilty because he allowed and agreed the he should be found guilty.....you volunteered.
 
After all...haven't you heard before that everybody in prison is there because they volunteered.....of their own free will?
 
If you volunteered....doesn't that mean you had a contract??
 
Then....WHAT'S THAT GOT TO DO WITH LAW???
 
The end result was there was no evidence to rebut the presumptions.
 
So... the defense rested.
 
If the defense didn't rebut the presumptions.....did the plaintiff have a duty to bring evidence into the case???
 
OF COURSE NOT!!!
 
Because, they only have to bring evidence if, the defendant rebuts the presumptions.
 
ALL RISE FOR THE JUDGE!!
 
Okay?...so here is what's going through the judges mind....he's going... "okay, there was charges of wrong doing...there was no evidence by the state, but the defendant's came on and didn't  rebut any of the charges...because they didn't rebut the charges....I, as the judge must weigh...well then, are the charges true as far as this case is concerned...or are the charges wrong?...as far as this case is concerned."
 
It has to do with what's the intent of the parties here...if there's no evidence...we can't rule on evidence...so it's not a law case.
 
It's a case in equity....we want to know what the intent of the parties are....isn't everybody out to gain all the news serviture?.....because the news never gets to the facts....they just want to know how you feel about the news all the time.
 
There's no facts before the court....there's no evidence before the court...we just want to know how everybody feels about it.....do they want to be found guilty or not??
 
And if they want to be found guilty...then we will go ahead and because we have their agreement ....we'll find them guilty!
 
The judge will sit back and he says, "well look... the charges, even though there not proved.... must be true."
 
ALL RISE FOR THE JUDGE!!
 
Regards,

Free-man Jack
 
author, freelance journalist and entrepreneur (INGENUI) at large
- the masterful use of a lawful word, is a mighty sword – Harper

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targa2

Hi Jack.  I am a fellow Canuck who has followed this legal stuff for 10 years or so. I see  you are applying Robert Menards doctrines and an amalgam of UCC and Admiralty concepts ( all of which are 100% valid ).

I also am an ardent follower of Smith and several others in the political arena.

I like what you are trying to teach these guys because the problem I see with those who persistently observe the political arena is that they will always be frustrated for solutions when the weaponry being utilized is actually enshrined in law. It's fair game to be observant of the political shenanigans going on in the world but these are a tremendous " dog and pony show "to keep people away from solution based issues.

I have said for years that the Illuminati are the Judges and to some degree the lawyers and the legislators ( many of which are Jewish )
Think about it....... What was Adam Weishaupt a student of ???......... Canon Law.  There's a clue for people.

You are way ahead of me in the application of these legal concepts ,but I have studied them long enough to know that you are dead right.

The only way to win this battle is for people to begin to understand and utilize those 10 basic precepts of commerce.  We will never begin to have enough respect for others until we have internalized and truly understand those 10 simple foundational rules and begin to assert them in our daily lives.

You should do an interview with Ognir or Smith.  I was going to talk to one of them but you would be more competent in backing up your knowledge with source material. It would be a great asset to the growing knowledge base.

Another area that I see you seem to understand is the money issue.  I am constantly frustrated at the whole monetary reform movement.  They don't know shit from chewed raisins about what the actual flaw in the system is.  They are always blaming " debt based currency " and " fractional reserve lending " or the freaking "gold standard "........none of which I believe are the problem.  The problem is INTEREST....Period. They get us to pledge the whole world to them and then ask for a fraction of the Moon as interest.

Thoughts ?

mobes

Aaaahhhhh the method of the uni-lateral and bi-lateral contracts. I'm getting this concept in my next 10 shows.

mobes

QuoteALL RISE FOR THE JUDGE!!

Have you ever done an acceptance for the judge's 'oath of office' as a binding bi-lateral contract?

targa2

I know it has been done, but I would never try it for the simple reason that you can make an enemy of a judge that could end up being in your corner if you use the law properly.

Besides , staying out of the courts for the most part is the best solution. Most cases are won though administrative procedure prior to court.

Christ said  `negotiate with your adversary before you go before the judge`

Anonymous

Targa2,

You are correct on all accounts.
The thing most people fail to do upon comprehending any of this is to go ahead and serve the proper documents on the gov thereby, getting their agreement to allow you to proceed ahead and use the law as you see fit.
As long as you harm no one, their property or commit mischief or fraud in your contracts...your good to go!
So...if one wishes to go this route then obtain the governments permission by agreement (NiHil DICIT) before proceeding.
The supreme law of Canada is the non-judicial judgment.
No government, court, senate, police department, quasi-police department can treed on this judgment as they are all bound to uphold said commercial law.
Contract makes the law.

mobes

QuoteContract makes the law.

Where there is no contract, there is no case.....period.

jai_mann

I'm spread thin in my research but I'm very interested in this and I have just started researching it.

I have a personal situation where this is an issue and I'm trying to figure out how to go about dealing with it. I was thinking from what I have read so far that I would need to go to a Notary Public to make statements on record. Any advice on how to proceed and what I should research in this process would be highly appreciated.


So I was having electrical problems. I requested an assessment of the problems from a licensed electrician. The electrician indicated that my only safe option was to fully remove the breaker box and have a new one put in. While he was present he asked to see a spare breaker which I indicated I had. He compared it with one he took off of the breaker box and then proceeded to put the spare breaker on with out me requesting him to do so. I didn't say any thing because it didn't strike me that this would land me in a law suit. Since he told me the entire panel needed replaced I told him I would discuss it with the home owners (my fiancee's parents because they would be paying for any work done) and that we would use him for the process. He said that he would have the paper work drawn up for the task. The next day the local utility company sent out someone to disconnect the wires from the house so the licensed electrician could come replace the panel. In the process this utility worker told me that all I needed replaced was the bus bars at that point (they connect to the breakers). So he replaced them with copper (improvement over the old aluminum ones) for free. So I called the licensed electrician and left a message asking him to return my call about his visit. So at this point he is charging me for replacing the breaker even though I had only requested an assessment of the problems and I never asked, agreed or signed anything for him to replace that breaker. I did file a complaint at the better business bureau because he had stated that my only option was to replace the panel. And at this point he's suing me over the money. I have received the notice which he filed electronically through the small claims court. This notice only states that I should up and bring evidence ,etc.

After having read what Jackie has said and some other things I've stumbled on to it seems that I should go to a Notary Public to rebut the plaintiffs claim, " Mr. X refuses to pay the $value service call incurred during an electrical repair on his property."

Would I be correct in assuming that I need to rebut this via Notary prior to court? Any advice or directions for research would be appreciated.

§N9sh2bj

Hi Jai man

In response to your question: I watched both bursting bubbles and magnificent deception. Then a few other related items, then watched the AntiTerrorist, then got to his video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7kzcOsuGBk. It is the second part, and on the right there are 12 links to a educational seminar called Solutions in Commerce. In addition, there is Eustace Mullins video in 2000 from Canada, called 'Rape of Justice'. Eustace was having some senility problems at the time, so he does have trouble with the Q&A, however, he seems to remember the past well and has no problem speaking during the first 11 sections. I hope his raw food/cleansing program is helping him out.

Going on what I have seen so far, one option would be to immediately counter-sue (Eustace's Recommendation) "Because you always want to be the Plaintiff, not the Defendant, and when they see you want to go to court, they do not want to take you there". Jai your case sounds like small claims. More straightforward because there are no lawyers involved. All you have to pay is a filing fee, and you represent yourself. This should force him to settle out of court or have second thoughts about simply defrauding people then suing them for the money. It helps to be very clear about the facts and circumstances, but when you get to court, don't have diagrams and figures. This is not a show-trial, you get it? The judge will usually be happy if you know what you are talking about and don't budge, but you listen and wait your turn; he's probably got a full schedule. This electrician sounds like he knows the routine, though, and you're not the first person he ripped off. I hate these bastards (defrauders) and I hate dealing with them.

The above is in no way any kind of legal advice, and is for entertainment purposes only.
moved on.
the author does not adopt jewish \'race theory\' or \'darwinism\'.
and believes \'jewish culture\' is mostly one of supporting their organized crime syndicates, with a enough veneer and an organized system of destroying and reshaping other cultures, to obfuscate the truth to most people.

targa2

Jai man                                                                                                                                        WITHOUT PREJUDICE  

I hate to say it but you might have a bit of problem with the case of the electrician.

Here's why.  Once you allowed him to put the breaker in without an objection right there and then , you violated your own original terms of contract, which was for an assessment. By allowing him to do this you created a new agreement which voided the original one.  By accepting the benefit of the electricians service you have created an agreement which is enforceable by him.

" sacrifice is the measure of credibility " is the precept at work here.  The electrician sacrificed his time and talent and you made an 'acceptance " by not refusing.

" he who does not reject,  accepts " is the maxim which operates in this instance.

If the electrician is asking for a ridiculous amount for his time I would dispute it by asking him to substantiate his bill with several copies of other bills for identical services provided to other customers.

eg: if the electrician agreed to do an assessment for free he should just walk away.

 If there was no discussion about the value of the assessment then it will be presumed he should be paid something...say 1 hour.

If he agreed to do the assessment for free, the presumption is that he is doing so in hopes of getting a contract for further services. By allowing him to provide even the smallest of services you have engaged him in a service agreement and he should be paid a minimum for that. Say....1 hour.

Service = servant = slave / master relationship. Master must take care of slave .

I suggest you make him an offer before wasting the courts time. Sorry...I tell it as I see it.

Christ said " make an agreement with your adversary before going to the judge "

The above is not legal advice , it is for entertainment purposes only.

jai_mann

QuoteI hate to say it but you might have a bit of problem with the case of the electrician.

Here's why. Once you allowed him to put the breaker in without an objection right there and then , you violated your own original terms of contract, which was for an assessment. By allowing him to do this you created a new agreement which voided the original one. By accepting the benefit of the electricians service you have created an agreement which is enforceable by him.

Well the electrician was asking for what would be considered reasonable for the time he was at the house. The matter for me was an issue of principle in that he had told us we only had one option which would have cost by his estimates ~$2000 and that was what we had agreed upon prior to him leaving. What it took to solve the problem w/o full replacement cost ~$250 in parts alone. I felt like the owners barely avoided being defrauded through the honesty of the local utility worker who offered another solution. I can see what you mean by not saying anything when he swapped breakers. I want to avoid court at all costs because I don't trust them and their masonic connections.

This guy is suing for the "service fee" plus $500 claimed loss of business with my better business bureau filing (we engaged in email correspondence mediated by the BBB and he failed to respond within 10 days to my second response so this is on his plate), plus $425 for claimed loss due to collection efforts, travel to court, and appearance in court. So it's pretty clear he's leaning on me to give the money before court OR I risk getting ripped off more. The service fee was just under $100.

Would you advise simply submitting the "service fee" given the circumstances? How would it be recommended to handle this in order to get the suit dropped? Again help is appreciated. What I wouldn't give to never have to deal with a licensed electrician, or any other privileged person, again....


QuoteGoing on what I have seen so far, one option would be to immediately counter-sue ... This electrician sounds like he knows the routine, though, and you're not the first person he ripped off. I hate these bastards (defrauders) and I hate dealing with them.

Well I'd just as soon not counter-sue because I don't have any faith in the court system period nor do I want to participate with the incorporated courts. I was personally trying to stand up against what I felt was a blatant misrepresentation of required service. This is why I've taught myself how to do stuff on my own. I could have done this but I'm not licensed and I was respecting my fiancee's parents wishes of going through "a legal source", so I didn't touch anything. Any way...all the more reason to move out of the city and get off the grid. It'll be one less leech in my life. I'm a strong believer in karma and that the way you led your life will catch up to you.

targa2

He's a lousy person for this behavior.

Counter-sue for misrepresentation.  Get an affadavit from the other electrician.
Get it notarized. File a copy with the court clerk and send one to him within 30 days.

You have nothing to lose by trying.