Ron Paul - The Shills' Shill?

Started by WorldWarThree, May 05, 2008, 07:18:17 PM

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WorldWarThree

I was just discussing Ron Paul with someone else. I've had my concerns for a while but I haven't broadcast them for the same reason that I don't spend a lot of time trashing other shills in the movement.

    Here's a video featuring Ron Paul throwing up occult gang signs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x6inINzThw

    Funny that I haven't seen one billboard of Ron Paul. If I was on his campaign team he'd be the most popular guy around with the kind of money we've given him. Seems like this all boils down to another Theodor Hertzl engineered hatred of Jews and liquidation of Jewish wealth. I can't help but think they're trying to play the cards in such a way that the Jew comes out on top (of course they are!) and Ron Paul is in on it. Especially since his financial adviser is a Jew and he apparently co-authored a book with some Zionist or some such.

GordZilla

That's refreashing to hear from you, I was wondering why in your videos you're so dead-on with everything else, but still supporting Ron Paul.  Yup I think the golden rule has to be; If they appear anywhere for anytime on main stream media they are already owned. David Duke, Bollyn, All the 9/11 Prof's ... etc etc. they don't seem to make any errors, letting Ron Paul get any traction at all would at first seem to be an error... but they don't make ANY only 'underestimations' (if that's a word - let's ask George W). They certainly underestimated the power of the internet, but I feel they are starting to correct even that.

-Gord

WorldWarThree

Here's my email to someone (for the most part a repeat of what I've already stated except for the weird synchronistic stuff):

This is more synchronistic "evidence" than anything. I signed up as an Associate for Liberty Dollar, of which they have several Ron Paul dollars. I noticed that on one coin there was a triangle with a circle inside of it and it was stated that the symbol is the "personal symbol" of Bernard Von Nothaus (architect of the Liberty Dollar). The same symbol is given by shill Stewart Swerdlow as a protective or beneficial symbol. Swerdlow is a commie and disinfo junkie.

Here's some real evidence to a degree. After making a promo movie for Liberty Dollar and getting thousands of views, I finally had a friend of mine sign up as an associate. I would then be due a commission for that. However, the website did not track signups whatsoever. We sent probably a dozen emails stating the website's coding problem (one that could be solved easily) and nothing came of it. I had the thought that there was no real intention for Liberty Dollar to succeed. With my marketing skills and the professional marketers I know, we could have made the thing explode. It seems that it was only another "controlled dissent" operation of sorts.

Also, Ron Paul's financial adviser is a Jew and his book on the gold standard is coauthored by a Jew (as I recall).

In his address to his supporters he quoted Trotsky. Almost as if it was a nod to the Jews and commies.

Ron Paul does not wave at his supporters, he gives a sign similar to the mano cornuto (horned hand). This hand sign is also given by Clinton and someone recently sent me a picture of a Hamas guy (or some such) giving it. There are several videos on YouTube showing Ron Paul giving the hand sign.

Seems like more false revolution bullshit. With the several million dollars he has he could have had several billboards in every major city (and then some). I haven't seen one! NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE in promotion would be sitting on that kind of money with nothing to show for it.

Some say the Jews are too close to him and keeping him from spreading the message; using his money. One person said he was in a chat room in which people were talking about doing all kinds of crazy stuff at his March on Washington. He said, "This is a Megaphone attack," and the chatroom went quiet. Megaphone is an Israeli program that helps Jews take rapid action as a unified force on the Internet.

What are we seeing? Liquifying Jewish wealth (Federal Reserve, et al) and a move toward "anti-Semitism". It seems history is repeating itself in the words of Theodore Hertzl.

I think Ron Paul is probably complicit in all this.

blueocean

Is Ron Paul also a fan of the Texas longhorns?

they have a lot of fans you know.......   :lol:

arctic.warfare

Quote from: "WorldWarThree"Here's my email to someone (for the most part a repeat of what I've already stated except for the weird synchronistic stuff):

This is more synchronistic "evidence" than anything. I signed up as an Associate for Liberty Dollar, of which they have several Ron Paul dollars. I noticed that on one coin there was a triangle with a circle inside of it and it was stated that the symbol is the "personal symbol" of Bernard Von Nothaus (architect of the Liberty Dollar). The same symbol is given by shill Stewart Swerdlow as a protective or beneficial symbol. Swerdlow is a commie and disinfo junkie.

Here's some real evidence to a degree. After making a promo movie for Liberty Dollar and getting thousands of views, I finally had a friend of mine sign up as an associate. I would then be due a commission for that. However, the website did not track signups whatsoever. We sent probably a dozen emails stating the website's coding problem (one that could be solved easily) and nothing came of it. I had the thought that there was no real intention for Liberty Dollar to succeed. With my marketing skills and the professional marketers I know, we could have made the thing explode. It seems that it was only another "controlled dissent" operation of sorts.

Also, Ron Paul's financial adviser is a Jew and his book on the gold standard is coauthored by a Jew (as I recall).

In his address to his supporters he quoted Trotsky. Almost as if it was a nod to the Jews and commies.

Ron Paul does not wave at his supporters, he gives a sign similar to the mano cornuto (horned hand). This hand sign is also given by Clinton and someone recently sent me a picture of a Hamas guy (or some such) giving it. There are several videos on YouTube showing Ron Paul giving the hand sign.

Seems like more false revolution bullshit. With the several million dollars he has he could have had several billboards in every major city (and then some). I haven't seen one! NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE in promotion would be sitting on that kind of money with nothing to show for it.

Some say the Jews are too close to him and keeping him from spreading the message; using his money. One person said he was in a chat room in which people were talking about doing all kinds of crazy stuff at his March on Washington. He said, "This is a Megaphone attack," and the chatroom went quiet. Megaphone is an Israeli program that helps Jews take rapid action as a unified force on the Internet.

What are we seeing? Liquifying Jewish wealth (Federal Reserve, et al) and a move toward "anti-Semitism". It seems history is repeating itself in the words of Theodore Hertzl.

I think Ron Paul is probably complicit in all this.
Now, maybe I've bought him hook-line-and-sinker (which I believe, in all honesty, I have), but I honestly believe (with no offence to you, WWIII, I like a lot of the stuff that you do) that this is bullshit. I looked at some of the other videos associated with that one, that claim he's a - wait for it - Reptillian shapeshifter. Maybe it's all some sort of joke, but that's pushing it, IMO.

Yeah, looks like the standard Ronnie James Dio-style devil horns that we all know and love (Fuck you, RJD), at least, to me. If Paul was really this much of a Zionist shill, he probably would be getting a lot more media attention. Certainly, I'd imagine that installing him would have been a very bad idea? He woke a lot of people up, probably in the order of millions (myself SOMEWHAT included).

Just my two cents.

EDIT: I just remembered that, at least at the beginning of his campaign, he called for America to "stop treating Israel like a stepchild" and to keep out of their affairs, militarily and monetarily. Doesn't seem like a bad policy to me.
"Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have." -Barry Goldwater - January 2, 1909 – May 29, 1998
"A government is the most dangerous threat to man\'s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims." -Ayn Rand - February 2 1905 – March 6, 1982

kolnidre

Quote from: "WorldWarThree"Swerdlow is a commie and disinfo junkie.

You can say that again! I first encountered Swerdlow on Red Ice. Got a few minutes into the interview and my bullshit detector blew up. Then I did a little background check on him and found out that his grandfather was the "lead hijacker" in the (ritualistic, vengeful) slaughter of the Romanovs!

Even if he made sense (and he doesn't) I would never trust him.

Agree on Paul. I only got one pinkie toe on board the Good Ship RP because I am wary of joining movements, but when he lay down like a little pooch after the obvious shenanigans in New Hampshire I knew he was fake opposition.
Take heed to yourself lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither you go, lest it become a snare in the midst of you.
-Exodus 34]

girlyoudontknow2

My problem with Ron Paul is three fold: First, where did all of that money go?  Why wasn't it used?  And if they did use it, why didn't I see any TV ads, billboards, radio spots etc.?  Second, why did he wimp out on 9/11?  Dennis Kucinich even said that there should be another investigation.  Which brings to mind the third problem... he was not in favor of impeachment.  Now, I realize this thing goes way beyond the Bush Administration here, but that would have, to me, at least, been a start, a message, and it would have opened the door to some serious hearings and investigations.

That said, he did help to open the eyes of many.  He brought the issue of the Federal Reserve System to the forefront.  And he consistently asks some uncomfortable questions of Bernanke.  While he is no doubt in bed with some pretty awful people, who isn't, that we can actually name?  He is no angel, but he is just so much better than the alternatives... he never had a chance anyway... but he did bring some people into our camp.  Woke some of the sleeping sheeple, at least a bit.  I know you have higher standards than that, WWIII.  I respect you for that.  But, most are not ready... does that make any sense?

WorldWarThree

I don't believe Ron Paul is a shapeshifter because he is making occult hand signals. The fact that some people believe that does not discount the hand signals. Interesting that when anyone gives these signals they're immediately pegged as an occultist, but when it comes to Ron Paul, there are a million-in-one excuses or a "so what" attitude.

joeblow

It really broke my heart when I finally accepted the fact the Ron Paul was a complete shill. I personally hate Freemasons and what made me wake up about him is when he went on the Bill Maher show and gave an obvious Master Mason handshake to Ben Affleck:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6432833205363203485&q=ron+paul+handshake+maher&ei=jC8gSOmsDo2SjgLc7v2yAQ

Forgive me if y'all are already aware about it, but I want to describe the handshake to the uninformed:

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/secrets.html

'Getting a Grip' without gloves...

Masonic secret signal handshake not a natural handshake
Look and feel is more similar to the way a man
would shake the hand of a woman, child, or
someone else who had small hands

"All the secrets of Masons in Masonry to which this (presses the top of his thumb hard against the first knuckle near the hand) token alludes."

arctic.warfare

Quote from: "WorldWarThree"I don't believe Ron Paul is a shapeshifter because he is making occult hand signals. The fact that some people believe that does not discount the hand signals. Interesting that when anyone gives these signals they're immediately pegged as an occultist, but when it comes to Ron Paul, there are a million-in-one excuses or a "so what" attitude.
I will certainly admit that Paul has backed down on a lot of issues (Most importantly, in my opinion at least, being the gold standard), and a lot of his campaign financing certainly isn't being put towards any discernible cause . However, if I saw anyone making seemingly occultist hand signals, I would take it with a grain of salt. You could have shown me Greenspan, for example, making them, and I still probably would have labeled it "Ronnie James Dio" syndrome (Once again, fuck RJD).
"Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have." -Barry Goldwater - January 2, 1909 – May 29, 1998
"A government is the most dangerous threat to man\'s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims." -Ayn Rand - February 2 1905 – March 6, 1982

Papillon

Possibly Ron Paul is a (crypto) Jew?

mastermg

Notice the Masonic "grip" or handshake at :55 exactly.

joeblow

Quote from: "mastermg"Notice the Masonic "grip" or handshake at :55 exactly.

salaam akhi, ana kurd fayli min iiraan, iqra risaalati l-khaarij min ameriika, biha ashyaa jadida.

I have a question concerning Freemasonry amoung Arabs, does it still exist? From what I read, it was very popular before il-naqbah (its-a-lie), but afterwards everyone dropped it. It seems, though, that it is still popular amound Egyptians, Lebanese, and Jordanians (King Abdullah il kharra is supposed to be the head of all Freemasonry in the Middle East).

The symbols of the Islamic Brotherhood, Fatah, and Hamas are obviously masonic:






AK3N470N

I first realized something was up with Ron Paul when Alex Jones kept promoting him a year ago. I noticed how all the mainstream truth videos released on google video seemed to include his name associated with the word revolution. A 9/11 documentary would be released and they would throw in the name Ron Paul as if he stood for 9/11 truth. When I saw him interviewed while supporting the official 9/11 story I realized he was there to pacify those who are somewhat awake and want change without getting their hands dirty.

Once DBS uncovered his book with the PNAC advisor Lehrman, that was the final blow for me to realize he is a shill. Then you have him quoting Trotsky and his economic adviser has the last name Schiff. The Communist revolution had funding from a Schiff, Ron Paul quotes Trotsky, talks about a revolution... history seems to be repeating.

As for the money he made off of those who supported him, looks like he is putting it to good use.. ;)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5732113.html

oldsoul

I thought Ron Paul was genuine. His speeches, the Bernanke testimony and the Petraeus hearing were convincing to me. But this video shows his true nature. Another illusion shattered and a good indication of the current situation.
truthfulness, compassion, forbearance

WorldWarThree

Here's a disturbing picture.



As for Ron Paul, it appears he serves the same purpose as the Jewish leaders of the hippie movement. The natural reaction to a failing war is disgust and a desire to mentally curl into the fetal position. They certainly expect this and position themselves to funnel the energy into places that do absolutely nothing. Only an armed and well trained citizen army will stop these criminals. In all the years of protests, bumper stickers, riots and peace slogans, it seems many people haven't learned their lesson.

Hei Hu Quan

My advice in all this is... Stop looking for leadership outside ourselves. Become that leader, that is the biggest fear of these bastards and believe me they are terrified of the masses, hence all the logistical preparations being made while we collectively cower and sleep.
"We Will Fight and Fight from This Generation to the Next" - Vietnamese People\'s Fighting Slogan


joeblow

Quote from: "WorldWarThree"Here's a disturbing picture.



As for Ron Paul, it appears he serves the same purpose as the Jewish leaders of the hippie movement. The natural reaction to a failing war is disgust and a desire to mentally curl into the fetal position. They certainly expect this and position themselves to funnel the energy into places that do absolutely nothing. Only an armed and well trained citizen army will stop these criminals. In all the years of protests, bumper stickers, riots and peace slogans, it seems many people haven't learned their lesson.

As an Iranian-American, who can actually speak Farsi, I would like to give a little background om Ahmadinejad. He belongs to a spiritual group that was specifically outlawed by Imam Khomeni. The group has very strange simularities to the Christian-Zionist, in that they wish to hasten the return of the Messahi (both Jesus s.a.w.s. and Al-Mahdi [The Guided One/12th Imam]  a.s.). Basically, they believe the worse the world gets (or is made), the soon we will see them. When Ahmadinejad speaks, he always talks about the world community of nations.

P.S.
Don't be fooled by his size, he used to be a special-forces commando who battled the national-socialist Bathists BEHIND enemy lines in Iraqi Kurdistan.

WorldWarThree

QuoteThe group has very strange simularities to the Christian-Zionist, in that they wish to hasten the return of the Messahi (both Jesus s.a.w.s. and Al-Mahdi [The Guided One/12th Imam] a.s.). Basically, they believe the worse the world gets (or is made), the soon we will see them. When Ahmadinejad speaks, he always talks about the world community of nations.

   That is how the Vatican could be involved in all this. Imagine some kind of agreement with the Jews, in which they are sent out to cause havoc. This seems to jive with the murals of Denver Airport. The only way this makes sense is if we apply holographic theory to reality; that our collective consciousness will manifest the Christ when all things have been properly aligned.

   If Christ is the man he is said to have been, I can't see him supporting such a dreadful means of calling him back into existence on Earth.

blueocean

I just listened to an interview with Ralph Ellis about the historical Jesus.


Not sure what to make of it and him. He does seem to support zionist positions, using the talmud as fact and describing Jesus as a false prophet from Egypt and all that.

Things seem to get more and more confused, as if everyone seems to find somehow irrefutable evidence for very conflicting positions, making it very difficult to come up with clear truth................... :(

joeblow

What the HELL?! I knew that the Denver Airport was fucked up, but after watching that Denver Airport Conspiracy video on jewtube, I really fucking hate Masons. It's reasons like this that the Salem witch trials took place. And you know what? THANK GOD! The only thing they did wrong was that they didn't get all of them!

arctic.warfare

My grandfather was a Mason. He's old and blind and senile, so he cannot attend anymore. He's a very kindly old fellow, so maybe someday he'll break the oath of secrecy on my request. If he knows anything, I'll post it.
"Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have." -Barry Goldwater - January 2, 1909 – May 29, 1998
"A government is the most dangerous threat to man\'s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims." -Ayn Rand - February 2 1905 – March 6, 1982

vaultkeeper

He has always seemed like a very subtle form of damage control to me.  
The aristocracy seem to be following old protocol.   Allow a "peoples champion"  to receive some press, lead the public a little way down the rabbit hole, and then distract, dodge, and if possible, co-opt.

mastermg

Quote from: "joeblowman"
Quote from: "mastermg"Notice the Masonic "grip" or handshake at :55 exactly.

salaam akhi, ana kurd fayli min iiraan, iqra risaalati l-khaarij min ameriika, biha ashyaa jadida.

I have a question concerning Freemasonry amoung Arabs, does it still exist? From what I read, it was very popular before il-naqbah (its-a-lie), but afterwards everyone dropped it. It seems, though, that it is still popular amound Egyptians, Lebanese, and Jordanians (King Abdullah il kharra is supposed to be the head of all Freemasonry in the Middle East).

The symbols of the Islamic Brotherhood, Fatah, and Hamas are obviously masonic:


Skoz18

Edited: I am wrong sadly he is a shill .....

Anonymous

I dunno if I have a great bullshit detector because I'm muslim or simply as a natural aptitude or just all the study I've done or my hatred of any authority besides God but I smelled BS on Paul from the get go...

Anyway, here's a debate we had with Wrong Fall (i came up with that so mention me when you use it, haha!) supporters back in JANUARY when they were really going nuts, flooding the net and all that, after we had been saying that his campaign and he were a BIG waste of TIME:

Prothink & Khanverse debate Wrong Fallotry

Anonymous

I renounced Ron Paul some time ago because he refused to discuss 9/11 and he kept too many Talmudists around him.

Regarding the end of days, is it not just a little too convenient that this whole thing appears to be orchestrated by the guys in charge?  Men are bringing about the scenario of World War III, imploding economies, destroying nations, and murdering millions of humans by design (weather control), not God.  I don't think God has anything to do with what's happening on the planet.  And if Christ reappears on a white horse in the sky, I feel 99% certain it will be due to a man-made hologram projecting his image, not his corporeal essence, which will conveniently cause a planet wide mass delusion of more fear and cowering.

I agree with what was mentioned earlier about looking to oneself for leadership.  We are all divine beings in our own right and I hope that anyone aware of the truth has recognized this fact.

Anonymous

Well in regards to the 2nd coming, it is a universal prophecy that a reformer will come in the latter days when man will be in desperate need, the hindus say Krishna (as), the buddhists say Buddha (as), Christians say Jesus (as), some jews are still awaiting Elijah the Restorer, we believe they are all right but that all those prophecies were fulfilled in one man and that he came for the entire globe under the auspices of Islam at is the culmination of the religious evolution and recognizes the truth of all these founders.

His name was Ahmad (as)

Since his death we've established a GLOBAL CALIPHATE

and TODAY (May 27th 2008) is the 100 year celebration of that Caliphate which is destined to unite mankind in peace and justice...

This is the Imam Mahdi/Messiah awaited by muslims like Ahmadinejad as well.

Thing is, just like the Jews rejected their messiah, Christ, so have the muslims rejected their messiah and persecuted him and his followers, yet they continue on the pathways of progress

100 years of CALIPHATE

Peace & Blessings

kolnidre

I listened to Jim Marrs on Jeff Rense from a recent interview (found an undated but recent torrent) this morning and they mentioned that there had been an article confirming that Ron Paul is a Freemason.

No surprise there. Controlled opposition.

I'm proud that I never took that smelly bait.
Take heed to yourself lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither you go, lest it become a snare in the midst of you.
-Exodus 34]

mastermg

Quote from: "Khanverse"Well in regards to the 2nd coming, it is a universal prophecy that a reformer will come in the latter days when man will be in desperate need, the hindus say Krishna (as), the buddhists say Buddha (as), Christians say Jesus (as), some jews are still awaiting Elijah the Restorer, we believe they are all right but that all those prophecies were fulfilled in one man and that he came for the entire globe under the auspices of Islam at is the culmination of the religious evolution and recognizes the truth of all these founders.

His name was Ahmad (as)

Since his death we've established a GLOBAL CALIPHATE

and TODAY (May 27th 2008) is the 100 year celebration of that Caliphate which is destined to unite mankind in peace and justice...

This is the Imam Mahdi/Messiah awaited by muslims like Ahmadinejad as well.

Thing is, just like the Jews rejected their messiah, Christ, so have the muslims rejected their messiah and persecuted him and his followers, yet they continue on the pathways of progress

100 years of CALIPHATE

Peace & Blessings
Dude, al mahdi will come when theres tough times with the anti-Christ, which is not here yet.